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Exactly. Bush did this bad as a complete idiot, now imagine someone with the same ideals, but who can plan things intelligently.
Yeah, we shouldn`t be afraid of him becoming president.
Hell, going into preliminaries McCain was disliked by conservatives for being too moderate. He is a lot different than Bush because he`s smarter than Bush. And I`ll bet dollars to donuts he`ll prove it once he`s in the White House.
Oh well, my opinion doesn`t really matter anyways because I live in CA where 90% of the people are Democrats (Thank you Berkeley and San Francisco), and I`m not old enough to vote anyways. -sigh-
I love it when people prove me wrong, b/c then I learn something new, but accusations without substance is a step above name-calling.
First, both Obama and McCain flipped on offshore drilling. We only hear about Obama`s flipping in the media b/c McCain has a few *cough* *cough* more negative attack ads out there than Obama does.
Second, who measures by public debt? If you measure by public debt, even CHINA has an 18% public debt! Public debt is pretty natural and part of any fostering economy. I believe what MechBFP was trying to talk about is EXTERNAL debt, which causes money to flow OUT of the country.
Third, saying that not raising taxes is about the individual while raising taxes is about society is a bit simplistic don`t you think? You`re also saying that "Democrats" raise everyone`s tax. Could you point to some factual statistic that states that Obama`s going to raise everyone`s taxes? I`ve never seen a traceable report, even from FoxNews, that reflects that
My statement was an intended overexaggeration, but my essential point is that McCain is a known warhawk. I don`t like the idea of a (Republican) warhawk controlling the country`s armed forces in a time where we need (more than anything else) diplomacy.
More of the same is not what I want. As an independent, I can say I`m wary of Obama and his "let`s change America!" optimism. His rousing speeches and beautiful promises look 1) expensive or 2) empty to me.
But I`d rather vote for him than McCain. McCain is just another dusty conservative and a carbon copy of the last 8 years. And frankly, Sarah Palin scares the Buhjesus out of me. I would never want her to be anywhere close to the Presidency.
If he`s from Chi-town he might`ve. But i`ve never seen him on AND1
"Then doesn`t it seem logical for you to want to vote for Obama? McCain is the one who supports another "100 years" in Iraq."
He wants the 5 year plan. If you want to buy into the whole hundred years in Iraq than we have been over 60 years in Germany.
Then doesn`t it seem logical for you to want to vote for Obama? McCain is the one who supports another "100 years" in Iraq.
God, you have no idea what your talking about.1) You dont measure by debt you measure by public debt.2) EU`s standard is 60%, we are at 70%. Japan is at 14 trillion and 180%.3) Largest Debt my ass.
"WOW Nazarene, you really think those are correct tax statistics?!?!"
Once again, people don`t understand the tax policies of both parties. Republicans hardly ever raise taxes. They are about the individual. Democrats raise taxes. They are about society. Those are factual. Democrats dont raise the rich`s tax, they raise EVERYONE`s tax.
And those website you gave. Could they be more liberal bias... seriously, the Washington Post?
We do give him a chance... as senator. Thats like Fancylad picking a Mod that joined a few weeks ago because he posted 1 or 2 really interesting links.
" plus is a great speaker with a clear agenda"
Great speak= YesClear Agenda= What????
You mean his, im completely against drilling to im for drilling as one of the optionsHe changes his mind every week. If I were Biden, I`d want my nomination in writing."since McCain has a history of medical illnesses"His current bill of health is completely clean.
"Anywho, am I the only one that thinks IAB is pretty biased towards the left side?"
I wouldnt say biased, I would say.. it gets more hits from that.
"Next she`ll try to tell us he`s Muslim."
You mean he`s not??? (jk)
Socialized medicine will kill our economy.
Government needs to pay down our debt, then be cut to the bone. No more entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security...they`re eating us.
All political stuff on IAB gets rated a 1 by me and that`s only because there isn`t anything lower.
I think it evens out, McCain is calling for more tax breaks, meaning less revenue for the government. But I think Obama is planning on more government programs, and if those haven`t been included in his tax outlook then he`s got another thing to worry about.
I think this is the most important issue. Reeling in the government and pulling tight the reigns. Doing so will help the economy. Then its up to other economic programs to complete the heal.
One thing I`d like to see from BOTH candidates is a frank discussion on reigning in government spending. If Obama wants to balance the budget with his proposed tax plans, he`ll need to cut an improbable amount of government spending. If McCain wants to balance the budget with his proposed tax plans, he`ll need to cut an even greater amount of government spending. Talking about taxes w/o talking about spending gives us a viewpoint that`s highly attenuated from reality.
Nevertheless, those are proposals. And I think we have all learned to never to trust politicians as far as we can throw them. I don`t expect Obama to live up to his tax promises, not with what he wants the government to control.
U of Cincinatti
It`d be hilarious to see the look on your face when you do your taxes in a couple of years, especially if McCain wins.
I think the site leans pretty left too Opie. And I`m not necessarily fond of it, but hey, it proposes a challenge. I always enjoy a good challenge.
And starrstreet, I know a lovely little place in New York where you can buy tin foil hats!
So when we went to Afghanistan and Osama escaped to Pakistan we didn`t go follow him did we? No, no, no... Lets go to Iraq because that`s REALLY what they wanted to do all along.
Also by doing that we became very goooood friends with Pakistan, they were an important ally in this "war on terror". So we were never going to be able to go into their tribal regions and go after who we started out after or they would be mad! They said, we`re taking care of it you don`t need to come in! Too bad their military would never be able to realistically do it.
Oh but look now, Musharraf just resigned and the US is going into Pakistan now even though they said their main target is not Bin Laden. But they are in the area where he is hiding so, hmmmm. Right before this election who do you think is going to be found...
Look it was our plan all along! The republicans did a great job and we caught Bin Laden!
Why didn`t you do that 7 years ago?
Video: National Anthem playing? Everyone has their hand over their heart, except who?? Oblammmmmmmmma!!!! Nope, not getting my vote!!!!!
I`m going to have to be rude this time... quick_sand8 is either a complete idiot, or has been tasked by someone to help spread disinformation.
The question of the still photograph, (It wasn`t a video, so you`re LYING quick_sand8) that showed Obama without his hand over his heart was taken a split second before the Pledge of Allegiance began. (it wasn`t the National Anthem, sorry quicksand_8 you`re lying again)
All subsequent photos show Obama WITH HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART.
This "controversy" was cleared up by most major media outlets MONTHS ago, and hasn`t been mentioned since.
Leave it to an obviously uneducated, ignorant person to post lies that have already been debunked.
Next she`ll try to tell us he`s Muslim.
It`s amazing that people can be stupid enough to think putting their hand over their heart during the anthem actually MEANS anything. These same idiots turn a blind eye to the 2 wars we started (while the rest of us watched them become quagmires), ignore the rising unemployment, China owning our future, the frenzied borrowing banks have been doing in the last 10 months, the superstitious stem-cell prohibition and the rest of the idiotic mountain of monkey-moves by the conservative a$$holes ruining the country. They are pocketing the profits with one hand while they have their other over their heart during the National Anthem. Crooks leading feebs.
Here`s more of the posted video interview. Obama makes a clear truthful rebuttal about the rumor he does not have enough experience and that the whole 143 days in office rumor is also nonsense.
I got that yelled at me once when I was canvassing.
Anywho, am I the only one that thinks IAB is pretty biased towards the left side?
...I like it... >_>
I know, I agree with you on the last part. We`ve lost too many troops in a war with another country we didn`t need to occupy in the first place!!
There were never any Weapons of Mass Destruction. Bush lied, and thousands died.
McCain will continue to occupy this country, and more troops (and some of my friends who are in the armed forces) will have their lives put in jeopardy for a pointless war that was started, and with McCain will continue to occur.
Keep in mind we were over in Afghanastan originally because we were looking for Bin Laden. The mastermind behind 9-11. He is the reason we were over there. That is a reason to send people THERE, not Iraq.
Innocent American lives were lost that day. Bin Laden needs to be captured under the leadership of a president and vp with a logical agenda, that can see an end to that operation once the mission is accompl
Not true, Obama has experience in Washington and in politics, plus is a great speaker with a clear agenda and his campaign was spent telling the truth and outlining his plan, rather than mostly trashing the other party. His only weak point, foreign policy is represented strongly by Biden, who is just as great a politician and speaker as he is. Now look at McCain and Palin. She has way less experience than Obama, has NEVER had any Washington experience, does not know how to control the military, and since McCain has a history of medical illnesses, she could end up his VP, should he get elected. I don`t want someone like that leading our country. Hillary was experienced and if she won over Obama, I would have voted for her. Palin on the other hand, is not ready to co-lead the country.
Your right, a single person can`t change this country... it takes a hell of a lot of people. Everyone complains about politics and the government, but forget that we citizens have been given the freedom to change things ourselves. If we didn`t then women and Africans Americans still wouldn`t be able to vote.
So yes, people need to vote on the issues, but everyone needs to remember that if we don`t like what`s going on then we need to raise hell. For example, there`s no reason that we should have a president in office with a 30% approval rating. In a utopian America, we would all be the fourth branch of government.sigh... I know I having lofty ideals here...
(sorry for such a long post)
Palin rudely addressing Obama isn`t something the left hasn`t done, they just did it with more tact. "George McCain, freudian slip" The only reason McCain hasn`t been bashed like that is because he`s a guy who spent 5 years of his life being tortured by the Vietnamese for his country. It`s hard to come of respectable after bashing someone like that.
That`s all I`ve seen lately
It seems the majority of I-A-B are Democrats, and this favoritism`s getting a little ridiculous haha
..or maybe he hasn`t given any policies yet either!!! It`s seems you`re forgetting that. Obama said today that the surge in Iraq went better "than anyone could have imagined"...so really...that`s one more thing he changed his mind on. I`m glad he likes to play basketball...it maks him seem so cool!!*swoons*
McCain and Palin may not have addressed issues for the middle class, but it`s no better than Obama and Biden addressing every special interest group out there and assuring each and every one of them deserves change (still undefined).
Oh, and hope. Don`t forget hope!
Just try and stop us!!!