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74 Responses to Air-Powered Car Coming to US in 2010

  1. Profile photo of freddyferret
    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    September 6, 2008 at 10:53 am
    Link: Air-Powered Car Coming to US in 2010 - Up to 96mph and between 800 and 1,000 miles on air and 8 gallons of gas. Sweet!
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    horhawkeric Male 18-29
    182 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 6:08 pm
    fake, wont believe it
  3. Profile photo of horhawkeric
    horhawkeric Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    and first! thats my first "first" ever
  4. Profile photo of ryan99
    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    you want me to drive a fuel efficient car, make it look normal.. until then, i`ll be drivin my gas guzzler
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    thedobkins Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:11 pm
    if that is exactly how it works, it is awesome
  6. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:16 pm
    > and first! thats my first "first" ever

    We`ll let you off with a warning then ... "First" posts will get you banned.

    As for the Air Car, I`ll go on record here as a non-believer. IF an air-powered car hits the US consumer market by Dec 31 2010, and IF it gets 1000 miles on 8 gallons and IF it can do so while averaging more than 90 mph, I`ll give 100 random IABers an IAB T-shirt each. Assuming any of us are still alive then, of course. I`ve been desensitised to this sort of "Wow in the future..." article by 40 years of Readers Digest predictions...

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:23 pm
    Believe it when I see it.
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    shortsagitar Female 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    pfft yea right.
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    troytrooper Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:26 pm
    Lionhart2,
    well I would have to agree with you and everyone else but just in case, could you put me on that list for an IAB shirt?
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    d_katman Male 13-17
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    Lionhart i will take you up on that, and don`t you forget it
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    petey112 Male 13-17
    358 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 6:34 pm
    horhawkeric saying "first" will get you banned
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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    first
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    Through out my (short) life, I`ve come to realize that about 90% of the miracle technology that I`m promised won`t happen. Either it`s fake, too expensive, has too many bugs, or someone ruins it.
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    basketkase Male 18-29
    1183 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    A custom heating chamber heats the air in a process officials refused to elaborate upon, though they insisted it would increase volume and thus the car’s range and speed.

    i smell bs

    btw why the hell iis it so ugly

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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:38 pm
    and im pretty sure none of you guys can ban anyone
  16. Profile photo of Khast
    Khast Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    As wonderful as this technology sounds. I won`t believe it until I see it first hand. My bets, this company will end in a vapor trail. All hype, and all of a sudden one day, gone.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    Probably one of those concept ideas that never get mass-produced- just like that "water car" a few months ago.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    Meh. We`ve had water-powered cars, now air-powered cars, next we`ll have cars that run on your own pooe.

    I won`t hand in my notice to the oil company I work at just yet.

  19. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:01 pm
    The biggest issue that every type of viable large scale alternative energy is facing, is it takes more energy to convert their substance into energy than you get out of it. I`m all for exploring the ideas. But, can`t buy into any of them yet.
  20. Profile photo of LoofahBoy
    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:02 pm
    Bullpoo.

    Anything from Popular Mechanics/Science is to be taken with a massive grain of sea salt.

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    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:03 pm
    Don`t get me wrong, I hope more than anyone that their math starts working out soon...
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    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:07 pm
    @Loofa,
    It`s the same thing as wired, they through out alternative ideas wich CAN be worked on. But, at least wired just tries to give you different ideas, or ways to look at it, but, doesnt keep it as fact. They`re just trying to get people to look at it in a different way. Hopefully, to find a better way to do things.
  23. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    Please excuse any spelling errors in that last post... I speak well, but, spell like a 5 year old...
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    shivarama Male 13-17
    327 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 7:25 pm
    Tata Moters has been in India for a while now, its not like its going to magically DISSAPPEAR.

    Im all in for this, though i highly doubt america will sell this thing for 18,000 more like 30,000

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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:44 pm
    > d_katman - Lionhart i will take you up on that
    > troytrooper - put me on that list for an IAB shirt?

    lol Random means random guys, not a list! IF it happens I`ll leave it to the Mods to pick 100 peeps at random and just fwd payment by PayPal or something.

  26. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 7:47 pm
    This is estimated in 2010, and, I really hope it works. But, it won`t... Tata motors has been around for a while. But the main reason that they`re doing so well, is that they can make small cheap cars. I really hope it works. But, I think they`re just creating hype.
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    Androgynous Male 18-29
    757 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 7:58 pm
    Seriously...
    Why is it whenever they make a really cool "modern" car...
    They give it the douchiest design ever?
    I mean..c`mon.
    It doesn`t look "futuristic", it looks like when you pass by someone in that thing someone is going to yell "DOUCHE"!!!
  28. Profile photo of theHUSHSOUND
    theHUSHSOUND Female 13-17
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    September 6, 2008 at 8:48 pm
    techgeek- you may speak well, but you have far too many commas.

    on the other hand, I think that the future is overpredicted.

  29. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    lol, I`ll work on it hush... I just learned that you should put a comma when you take breath. I`m a smoker. I take alot of breaths
  30. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:20 pm
    p.s. Aside from the spelling, I still think it`s grammatically correct.
  31. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:33 pm
    p.s. Aside from the spelling, I still think it`s grammatically correct.
  32. Profile photo of pat125
    pat125 Male 18-29
    756 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:38 pm
    If they can make that thing in something that looks like a normal car I`ll buy one now. Why do new technologies always have to be put in body styles that look like a crack addict designed them.
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    flippant Female 18-29
    447 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:39 pm
    Screw the Prius, I want one of these things!

    ...gotta wonder how they can get away with calling it "gasless" when it uses a 8gal to run the alternator, though....

  34. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:42 pm
    Ummm, Flippant, Nothing uses 8 gallons to run the alternator. In fact, the alternater is one of the best forms of energy regeneration that we have.
  35. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
    2593 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:44 pm
    alternator*
  36. Profile photo of flippant
    flippant Female 18-29
    447 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:44 pm
    ummm....read the article. It says it uses a gas-powered "power source" to fuel the air chamber pistons. Sounds like this thing`s equivalent of an alternator to me.
  37. Profile photo of flippant
    flippant Female 18-29
    447 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:45 pm
    ...but kudos on completely missing the point, techgeek07.
  38. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:49 pm
    Kudos, your apposlutely right. Sry, I was thinknig of the cars that we`re driving today.
  39. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
    2593 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:50 pm
    sry, Flippant, rather than kudos.... lol
  40. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
    2593 posts
    September 6, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    p.s. I do apologize, I`m running a little slow tonight
  41. Profile photo of techgeek07
    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    September 6, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    And the worst part flippant, is you were agreeing with me. I apologize again
  42. Profile photo of DuckBoy87
    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 11:12 pm
    Hmm, ok... I guess. But can we make it look a little less... dumb?
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    September 6, 2008 at 11:54 pm
    i still take a jeep or a chaallenger anyday over that piece of crap. i mean seriously 96mph if u r a real american this is not your car.
  44. Profile photo of Crucible
    Crucible Male 18-29
    1815 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 12:47 am
    Why do car companies always have to make their "environmentally friendly" cars such ugly pieces of crap?
    I would rather ride a bike then drive that.
  45. Profile photo of MechBFP
    MechBFP Male 18-29
    813 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 12:56 am
    If you don`t like it, just don`t drive at all or pay out the ass for gas. Your choice for being stupid.
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    TheGrimBunny Male 13-17
    3 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 1:17 am
    Its a shame the US isn`t becoming a leader in the development of non-gas powered vehicles. Getting the first decent, attractive car out there under GM or Ford would bring so many jobs and money back towards the US economy
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 1:48 am
    MechBFP - Dude, you should try living in the UK. We pay about twice as much as you do.

    A compressed air powered car is all well and good apart from two things:

    1) If the compressed air tank gets a leak and explodes eg car accidents, you`ve had it in a very messy way.

    2) What energy source is used to compress the air in the first place? Fossil fuels probably. Hydrogen cells are the only realistic solution and we need em quick.

  48. Profile photo of Eagle390
    Eagle390 Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2008 at 3:20 am
    The compressed air car concept was produced years ago by a french inventor but, suprise suprise, it was kept hush hush due to a huge payout from several oil companies.

    The prototype was completely running and was ready for mass production. Any issues such as leaks and explosions were dealt with (the compressed air had less chance of exploding than a petrol driven car in a bushfire ) and the air compressors used were extremely efficient; not only that but there was an on-board air compressor that compressed more air when the car was coasting/going down hill (foot off the accelerator) etc.

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    rammokazamo Male 13-17
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    September 7, 2008 at 3:50 am
    Fwoggie2, hydrogen fuel cells are not the solution because you need energy to create the hydrogen which would most likely come from fossil fuels
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2008 at 4:13 am
    Air Powered?

    Do you have to pump it like a super soaker?

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 5:01 am
    "A custom heating chamber heats the air in a process officials refused to elaborate upon, though they insisted it would increase volume and thus the car’s range and speed."

    It`s true! The fuel comes from all the endless talking all politicains do... it gets bottled and shipped to fuel stations and sold to those needing hot air to fuel the vehicle.

    Now you are informed and have a pleasant day!

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    petey112 Male 13-17
    358 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 6:12 am
    that is kinda gay, everything is starting to look like a smart car
  53. Profile photo of Rat5Rule
    Rat5Rule Female 13-17
    930 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 6:22 am
    Re: Hydrogen cells being the solution - There`s no way to store them properly yet (i mean, store the power in them.. or something). Plus, doesn`t a Toyota Yaris take more energy and produce more pollution to make than a Hummer? The sulphur mines in Canada just kill all the wildlife around them. Seems like a pretty crappy exchange - cheap fuel, at the cost of natural habitats.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 6:56 am
    I am surprised the creator of the internet doesn`t have something to say about that. :)

    VVVVVVVVVV
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 9:40 am
    Lets look at how much taxes oil generates from a simplistic perspective and this should show you why the government will NEVER use renewable or alternative fuels. Lets set the base price of a barrel of oil at $100 for simplicity and all taxes at 10%. This barrel is coming into this country from Saudi Arabia where we get most of our oil. That barrel was bought on the US market, so lets get started. Sales Tax = $10, Import Tax = $11, Refiners income Tax = $12.10, Sales Tax to Gasoline Distributor = 13.31, Sales tax to Gas Station = 14.65. Now lets say that breaks a barrel of oil into 100 gallons of gasoline, that accounts for $.64 in a gallon of gas in passed along costs to the consumer which is included in the cost of the gallon of gas. Lets tack on the actual taxes the consumer has to pay which is 40% of the actual cost of the gallon and you have about another $1.50, plus the $.64 puts the taxes on a gallon of gas at about $1.25 per gallon.
  56. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 9:46 am
    That`s not accounting for what is made from the byproducts of oil after it has been refined into gas. I included sales tax for byproducts, lets say for example that barrel of byproducts gets sold as a plastic widget later. The taxes from would look like this. Sales tax of byproduct = already covered. That company then turns the product into actual plastic and sells that to a company that makes plastic widgets, sales tax of plastic, then sales tax to company sells plastic widgets, and sales tax to the customer who buys the plastic widget. Lets say that the combined sales taxes for the plastic widget came out to be about $1.00. All in all how many millions of barrels of oil does the US go through in a year and how many gallons of gas, and how many plastic widgets do we buy and your looking at close to $1B a year in tax revenue a year because of oil. Now this is a simplistic model of how and what taxes are collected but i think you get the idea.
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 9:48 am
    edit: $1.50, plus the $.64 puts the taxes on a gallon of gas at about $1.25 per gallon.

    Should equal $2.25, typo there

    ftfm

  58. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
    474 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 9:52 am
    So why don`t auto makers just stop making gas powered cars and start making alternative fueled cars? because as long as the government is keeping us locked into gasoline for tax revenue purposes, the car companies are only going to capitalize on that fact and produce gas powered cars...
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    mooogandi Male 13-17
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    September 7, 2008 at 10:05 am
    wow itsallfakes clearly falls into the category of annyoing know it all, i didnt even try to read his comment
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    modernbenoni Male 70 & Over
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    September 7, 2008 at 10:18 am
    DEATH TO THE ENVIRONMENT
  61. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 10:25 am
    No, clearly that is just looking at something we like to call "the big picture". It`s all right there under your nose, but most people choose not to look until someone points it out.
  62. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 10:39 am
    Typical child response, instead of trying to come up with an intelligent retort you go into name calling typical of kids who are too stupid to wrap their heads around concepts outside of xbox and internet porn. Let me stoop to your level for a moment so you might understand. Mommy and daddy wont be buying you an airpowered car because the big bad government guys make too much money on oil. If you would like to know how, you can look into it when you get to be a big boy, mkay?
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    AndroidMetro Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2008 at 11:57 am
    Too ugly for me.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    ^^ "Mommy and daddy wont be buying you an airpowered car because the big bad government guys make too much money on oil"

    No fake, mummy and daddy won`t be buying an airpowered car because, like the water-powered car a few months back, it doesn`t work, at least not without plugging it into the national grid to charge up the compressor.

    But then, don`t listen to me, I work for a multinational oil company, so obviously we`re all in cahoots. Now if you`ll excuse me I have to head over to the Bush ranch to have panda steaks for lunch with W, Bin Laden and Elvis. We`re going to discuss how to keep the 9-11 inside job under wraps and make sure the sheeple don`t figure out that the moon landings were fake. All the while smoking cuban cigars made from $1000 bills, of course.


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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    I wasnt talkin to you dave... thought you woulda known that...
    And let`s clarify my friend, you work FOR an oil company, you don`t OWN one. Huge difference my little European buddy. I used to work for a bank, not own one. I know work for a law firm, im not a lawyer.
    Just because i work for a lawyer doesnt suddenly change my perspective of them and certainly doesnt make me defend the fact that lawyers are sharks and typically scum, but they provide me a steady paycheck and 50K a year so im not going to deny im working for a shark, but a shark is a shark.
    Oil companies, be it american, european, middle-eastern or otherwise are nefarious companies. Doesnt mean they have robots or zombies doing all the work for them. And i am not blaming Big Oil for the lockdown our nation. I blame the government, as i always will.
  66. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    the very reason america will always be oil dependant is the same reason that the fairtax bill will never get passed. It`s why most companies get a lot of stuff made over seas. This government has too many layers of taxes. i just tried to provide a simplistic view of how many times something can be taxed by our government and how it affects the end price that consumer have to pay. I didnt even get into things like shipping costs, and storage costs and EPA fees and crap like that, it was supposed to be a simple diagram to show that the government over taxes everything, and STILL doesnt know how to manage its money i might add.
  67. Profile photo of itsallfake
    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    September 7, 2008 at 2:48 pm
    Ive had a great infrastructure plan for the US for over 2 years now and not one person has taken me serious. You wouldnt have to buy new cars at all, the infrastructure is already in place. Everything just needs modified to handle it. a $300-$500 conversion kit for any vehicle on the road and the fuel source is actualy renewable. It would only be a small percentage cleaner emissions than fossil fuels, but it would be a step in the right direction. Oil companies would not go out of busniess because there will always be a need for oil. But in this fashion, the US would actualy be self reliant.
  68. Profile photo of wtmac
    wtmac Male 30-39
    436 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    I love the 100+ mpg but why oh why does it have to look so ugly??? Please tell me there will be something coming out that looks normal and not like an oversized happy meal toy.
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    mickeym19 Male 13-17
    625 posts
    September 7, 2008 at 6:34 pm
    i dont care what you say but the green car looks awesome! i would drive anywhere in that.....


    on the air car bit : seems good enough....but gotto wait till it comes out to make a reasonable assesment..

  70. Profile photo of BigWaFuu
    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    September 7, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    and big surprise the car looks retarded. Is it impossible to design a car that looks normal (one I could dare drive to college or work without getting 10000 stares) as well as runs on sunshine and rainbows?

    I dont remember asking these scientists to redesign what the car looked like. Only how it worked.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 8, 2008 at 6:25 am
    I dont care what you can get it to run off of when you make it that ugly it`s gonna fail.
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    Vagrant86 Male 18-29
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    September 8, 2008 at 8:22 am
    i would love to at least see a nicer looking car then this.
  73. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    September 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    Compressing air requires power. Chances are the source will be fossil fuels. In the end, you`re just substituting emissions at a factory for emissions in a car.
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    lololeela Female 30-39
    327 posts
    September 9, 2008 at 9:22 am
    What catbarf said. I was going to say the same thing.

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