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Date: 07/23/08 11:59 PM

209 Responses to Today`s Young Americans Are the Dumbest Generation

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 23, 2008 at 8:49 pm
    Link: Today`s Young Americans Are the Dumbest Generation - Mark Bauerlein argues that ``the digital age stupefies young Americans and jeopardizes our future.`` Yes? No? Thoughts?
  2. Profile photo of phasoo
    phasoo Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:05 am
    excuse us "young rascals" for not finding museums and art paintings interesting. Our different opinions and choice of time use is our fault.
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    yen223 Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:07 am
    Us stupid?? Thats unpossible!
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    DorisDahmer Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:07 am
    Jeesh, if I wasn`t sidetracked by this stupid video, I could have been studying world history, and reading some of Oscar Wilde`s work...thanks alot non-nice individual.
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    phasoo Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:07 am
    What a load of crap. If it`s anything that`s dumbing down america, it`s bad teaching, lack of education funding, and parents pressuring schools to teach things that parents should be teaching(drugs, sex, socializing, manners).
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    Gunit1 Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:09 am
    I agree with phasoo.
    It`s not our fault, infact, it`s nobodys fault.
    The new technology teches us stuff we`ll need in the future, this stuff is just the basics anymore.
    Later, say, 20 years from now, the people of THIS generation, will be screwed. By then, we`ll have a nationalpants size of; infinity
    Enough technology to build a new earth.
    And... Gas will be up to 100 dollars a gallon. :-/
  7. Profile photo of argenteus
    argenteus Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:09 am
    "eeeh, I don`t watch movies..."

    It`s like he`s saying

    "I`m too smart to watch movies and I have a dictionary up my ass"

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    Gunit1 Female 13-17
    850 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:13 am
    I gree with phasoo again!
    Plus, with the school thing, the parents expect them to teach about their religion, but keep it not preachy. WAT THE drat?!
    Then there is parents on tv and video games, if you don`t want us/other people to see that, then don`t let your kids. Get over it.
    Honestly!!!!!!
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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:13 am
    actually, everything that he said "is out there for us to explore" can all be found on the internet.
    and it sounds to me like hes a biased stuck up prick that should stop trying to cash in on "controversial" books.
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    Gunit1 Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:15 am
    I also agree with;
    maceizballin
    argenteus
    phasoo
    doris
    and, Ven
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:15 am
    Mark Bauerlein can suck my rooster
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    ded5833 Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:15 am
    In my opinion, if you`re not part of that particular generation, you`re not allowed to criticize it.

    It`s quite true that teens in this generation have a lot of pressure, unlike the good old days, you can`t work your way up from janitor to manager anymore, my step-dad did that, he`s quite successful. And that rarely happens now.

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    phasoo Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:15 am
    Meh, he was right about kids needing good mentors. That`s where successful kids start and end. How else do you think I would have decided to abandon World of Warcraft?
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:16 am
    If that were true, then wouldn`t it be just as prevalent in europe? Last I checked they had MySpace and Facebook over there, too.
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    phasoo Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:16 am
    Ok gunit, try that on for size. (I`m on a roll)
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    vE Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:18 am
    i blame the parents. its about time somebody does...
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    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:19 am
    i spend most of my time learning phyics (i LOVE physics!) or on message boards note: this is computer time, not time in the day. time in the day i usually spend playing ball with neighbors
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    Gunit1 Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:23 am
    Nice phasoo. U r on a roll. U r very right.
    And to the catholic guy,
    No any catholic priests, i need 2 ov em. Then we can have battle to the death over a small boy. Thw winner fight micheal jackson, lol.
    Jkjk. Im not rascist, i hate everyone equally. ;-)
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    plowerd Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:24 am
    I am gonna go out there and blame the kids. and...dare i say it..ALMOST agree with this fagass. i think internet and video games are corrupting kids (im part of the generation, so i can criticize). cuz look at it, back when there were no video games or internet like back when our parents were growing up (in the days of ole) they actually turned out normal (for societies standards at the time) but now those people screwed and had kids and at the same time invented the internet (oh, btw,thanks for that al gore) as well as video games and made us all, in this dudes terms, "retarded." (okay, they were my words, but i dont wanna watch this again to see what he actually said) so i realize as i write this, that its NOT our fault. its our PARENTS!!!! (and al gore`s) but for sake of this arguement, lets just blame AL GORE!!!!! Whose with me? "AL GORE MADE THIS GENERATION TeRarded!!!"
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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:25 am
    ok upon completing the video, it makes me wonder what exactly makes this man think this way? is he stuck in a time lapse? is he afraid of technology? is he tired of youngsters stepping on his lawn?? and instead of pointing fingers and calling us dumb and ignorant, maybe he should try to practice what he preaches and try to make a change.
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    phasoo Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:25 am
    wait gunit, weren`t you just saying i was a jerk for not posting a relevent comment on the last post when I was the first to comment (go look)?
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:25 am
    ...good thing I`m currently on my way to go museum hopping. o.o;; Me and my sixteen year old friends enjoy going downtown to museums.

    He says that our laptops and cell phones are less compelling than the story of Caesar, but I can use my laptop and my cell phone to communicate with people across the world, people who I can compare cultures with and build relationships with. Caesar hasn`t made me friends in at least fifteen different countries, but my laptop has.

    My "adult" world is going to be filled with so many different people from so many different places because of technology. Hell, I`ve already met one of my UK friends. I don`t need to throw out my cell phone and pick up Shakespeare to build "adult" relationships in my future "adult" world.

    "There`s a great big world out there..." Right now, here, how many of us are posting? We`re sharing opinions and facts that we can eventually use in real life. I wouldn`t even know about this vid

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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:28 am
    leesah made me realize quite an important point...
    WITHOUT THE INTERNET AND TECHNOLOGY, WE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO WATCH YOUR VIDEO NOR COMMENT ON IT.
    thank you
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:28 am
    & sorry for the double post, but really, calling your class lazy and ignorant isn`t going to make them interested in what you`re saying. "You`re lazy, ignorant bastards, now read this book and listen to me lecture you failures about how stupid your generation is." Yeah, that`s a real good teaching method.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:33 am
    fuddy-duddy?
  26. Profile photo of Bekll
    Bekll Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:37 am
    He talks about us being lazy and ignorant and implies that 2+ hours of tv is bad.


    ... I watch Discovery Health and Travel channels... not Spongebob junk.

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    Evanesia Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:41 am
    They don`t even realize how great individuals are. A whole mass of people is by nature going to be.. ignorant. But every single individual has something special to bring to the world. Do they think we`ll perform our best cooped up in a room taking a test? There are so many teenagers that are overlooked. Those are just hobbies.. now ask us about our beliefs, political views.. such things as that, and almost everyone has a strong argument to give.

    Maybe our generation will actually show them how life is supposed to be. Get past all the others who have been given strong religious views about things, and you have a majority of open-minded young adults. Because closed minds lead to/are cause of ignorance.

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    leesah Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:42 am
    @Bekll: Who`s to say that TV should only be watched for Discovery and the Science Network? If I want to sit down and relax for an hour, for that period of time, Spongebob is my best friend. Just because I`m not learning something new and complex doesn`t mean I`m wasting my time, or showing off how dumb I am.
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:43 am
    whatever, dumb people have no need for literature or museum anyways. They are just there to reproduce and help us evolve.
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:45 am
    @Bekll: reading is sometimes better than spongebob.

    remember! natural selection owns the dumb ones

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:45 am
    (these post might reach a few pages.. . hold on)
    What IF?

    1703-Students cant calculate problems if they depend on slates. What if it brakes, they wont be able to write?

    1815-Students rely on paper too much. They cant even use slate properly anymore. What if they run out of paper?

    1907-Students rely too much on ink. They dont know how to use a pen knife to sharpen a pencil. A pencil will never be replaced

    1928-Students rely too much on store bought ink. They dont know how to make their own ink. What if they run out?

    1941-Students rely too much on fountain pens. They buy these expensive pens and dont care about frugality. What if they get bad spending habits from these pens?

    1950-Students rely too much on ball point pens. They throw them away like nothing. What if they learn to discard everything?

    1980-Calculators??? You cant use those on test, how will you be able to remember your times tables or interpolation for trig ratios?


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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:47 am
    you know in china and other 1st/2nd world asian countries, you are not allowed calculators in math tests.
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:48 am
    thats why chinese people are sterotypically good at math. (it is because they are)
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    LleetLlama Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:49 am
    They didnt know we were allies with Russia..?
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:53 am
    1989-Calculators in middle school? How will they ever remember long division? What if they dont have access to a calculator.

    1993-A grant for classrooms to have graphing calculators?
    Students wont be able to use them, and parents wont buy it for other classes.

    1995-Internet for students? Thats just a fad, it wont replace a library.

    1996-Teachers will NEVER use E-mail.

    1999-Internet connection for teachers? You are going to get computers for every single teacher?

    2000-What can an LCD projector do better than an overhead projector?

    2001-Students with laptops in highschool? Are you seriously going to spend that kind of money on a student?

    2002-Grades on the internet? What?

    2004-Wireless.... in school?

    Today-Turn off all iPods and electronic devices

  36. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:54 am
    "thats why chinese people are sterotypically good at math. (it is because they are)"

    Explain Jews that do better than them across the board.

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    tommy419 Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:55 am
    i know allies ( US french britain russia canada ) and axis powers germany, italy, japan )by heart its not hard
  38. Profile photo of Bekll
    Bekll Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:55 am
    leesah, he was implying our generation watches mindless television only - that we can`t learn anything of substance from it - not true.

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    tommy419 Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 12:57 am
    i gotta read that book and see what else he says
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    CellerLK Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:00 am
    What a patronizing twit!
    His is the generation that created all of the things that distract us, it isn`t our fault we were brought up around those things.
    this man needs a good kick in the face, in my opinion.
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    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:06 am
    That`s a dumb point. History proves we`re all smarter than our parents. The internet is the easiest and most efficient way of relaying information. In my opinion, I`m gonna learn a hell of a lot more on the internet than I am watching the great debate on abc
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    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:08 am
    I say the only research this guy conducted was of the comments board on ebaumsworld.com
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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:11 am
    Yes, because obviously it`s only America that has the idiots. I`m sure every single person in the rest of the world is just a genius, right?
    What a pretentious bastard. I think he`s focusing too much on the "stereotypical" teenager who only cares about what others think, the hottest trends of today, and all that crap. I have met far more students (most are friends) who have shown me amazing things which include art, writing, and all sorts of things he seems to think we are incapable of appreciating. My friend is really into philosophy. Another friend is basing her life around the art of Theatre. I, myself, love writing, reading (actual books, yes), and all sorts of arts and teachings.
    I guess that`s not good enough, right?
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    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:28 am
    The reason we dont make regular visists to the mueseum or the library is because we have all that and more at home, on the internet.
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    FunnyKid107 Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:28 am
    Our generation was born into this world with a lot more distractions than any other generation, and with today`s technology consistently improving at an exponential rate, there will only be more for the next generation. What this so-called specialist neglected to consider is the utilization of this technology. Considering the speed at which web pages are developed, the amount of information online, and the capabilities that web communication provides, students who take their studies seriously can easily become the smartest, most well-informed adults in this nation`s history. I certainly know many kids who do use modern technology to their scholastic advantage (I`m just one of many), so referring to our generation as the dumbest generation is an unfair, uninformed assertion. Granted, several children do get distracted because of today`s forms of entertainment, but it`s up to his generation (the children`s parents, teachers, etc.) to gear them in the right direction
  46. Profile photo of Realbman
    Realbman Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:36 am
    WELL drat YOU!!!! i is not dumb cuss of interwebz i meanz i getz a d+ avrage. Rofl jokes I just avoid having friends so I don`t have to deal with them. /Emo
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    Devi3000 Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:46 am
    WOW. Someone is bitter they never got laid in high school, or were even popular for that matter.
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    Gluggr Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:50 am
    Art sucks, why should I look at it? ^^
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    Tanzeder Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2008 at 1:59 am
    heh, the surfing habits of any other country with this much technology are pretty much the same. Not sure why you`re aiming that topic at Americans, as it points to most of Europe, Asia, and any of the likes.

    Probably moreso to Asian countries, as the internet cafe`s in those countries are used more for gaming/warez than for arts study/research.

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    OJpimpson Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:01 am
    I don`t even need to watch this vid to know that he`s right. Or at least really f*cking close.
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    razordragon Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:12 am
    Wow, this is some stupid stuff, coming from the mouth of a unintelligent person. If you want to act all high and mighty, please speak like a superior. Ums and errs in your sentences makes you sound like a stupid drat, making baseless conjecture makes you seems like a retarded drat. If it walks and tucks like a drat, it`s probably a drat.

    A mob of people is stupid, because there is no mind in that, individuals today, are a lot smarter than the individuals of generations past. The collective is about at the same level of stupidity.

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    MrMarcin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:17 am
    "Whooooo. Whoooo. I was born into this cruel world of technology and I can`t help that I`m so stupid. It`s nor my fault that I`m intellectually satisfied with the knowledge I have. PLZ Blame someone else LOL!!"

    The comments on this video make watching the video itself dispensable, because you already know that the title is fu cking right.

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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:20 am
    It dosnt stupifie people are that stupid to begin with regardless of technology
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    Aj_ratboy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:32 am
    the mans got a point... i sometimes think that if i just applied myself to somthing else for 30 mins a day, instead of watching tv, or going on facebook, i could be fluent in a foriegn language by now.
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    Aj_ratboy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:34 am
    oh and razor dragon... you critisize for his sentences... just read yours again.. was the retarded drat comment really necessary, oh, and your grammer is all wrong.
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    Tadpole_Rulz Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 2:43 am
    I didn`t mind his opinion too much till he talked about how he complained to his class about how lazy and ignorant they were. It`s like the digital immigrant, digital native thing. I`d like to see him progam a computer or even work an iPhone or stuff like that . He may know shakespeare but we`re pretty smart too. My Mom still can`t turn on her internet properly and I bet he can`t either.
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    Surfingninja Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:08 am
    I`m so confused! I`ve heard people criticize technology for making us anti-social, and now I`ve heard this guy say it makes us TOO social. hrrmm =/
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    powpowking Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:12 am
    Wii iz teh smarterestest uf em allz.
  59. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:14 am
    "the mans got a point... i sometimes think that if i just applied myself to somthing else for 30 mins a day, instead of watching tv, or going on facebook, i could be fluent in a foriegn language by now."

    Lets say you didnt have a computer. Would you have actually learned a foreign language or watched more tv?
    If you didnt have a tv, would you have learned a foreign language or go outside to the movies.
    If there were no.....

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    Aj_ratboy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:18 am
    i`d like to think that i would actually, as the cinema costs money... and there isnt much great stuff on t.v.. or at least i`d spend more time actually socializing not just facebooking..
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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:25 am
    Primetimekin!

    Yep, people actually said that in 1980! Good call.

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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:28 am
    This is very biased, almost like the lobby against video games because of violence and such. The thing is, you can`t just random poll 1000 people in a country of 300 million people, if you subtract the age group in question you still have 100 million or more (estimate) people. You cannot accurately get a good poll off of so few. Besides that fact, most of the time, it is taken from people that tend to live in a more populous region, I.E. the east coast of the United States, were most of the children in this age group only hear about streetwide gangs, how politics are going, and get very few funding for their schooling. Its easier to keep 15 teenagers to pay attention, but 30+ is almost impossible, you cannot learn in such an environment.

    I grew up when the internet began to hit mainstream, I learned more from computers and video games then I ever did in school. I taught myself physics, programming, as well as video editing, debate, philosophy and other such things because of the..

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    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:31 am
    Thoughts:
    54% chose Nazi germany, Japan, or Italy as our allies in WW2? I don`t know WHERE they got these facts but any person I ask here will Know it wasn`t any of those.
    --
    "It gives teenagers what they really want... access to other teenagers"
    Well DUH! What do you think they did with Telephones? I can tell you they weren`t calling the Smithsonian. They were calling each other!
    They don`t go to the museums and such because they can learn the same on the internet!
    --
    "...It lets people go where they`re already interested."
    Damn straight it does. It`s the new way. `kids` learn what they want, and what they`re interested in on the internet. Unlike most (US at least) schools that force feed you everything, instead of concentrating on your strengths.
    --

    I can see where this is going and he`s trying to make some good points.. but he just doesn`t quite get there... but he has to realize, the world is changing with or without him. It`s not al

  64. Profile photo of Scotchy
    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:32 am
    fact that I can learn at my own time or pace which makes it easier for me since I don`t have to slow down for others. Ask me the same questions, or anyone in the schools were I live, they will tell you the day we landed at Normandy, or when Germany surrendered to the Allies etc.

    Also, for those kids that he was claiming were stupid, your question was stupid to begin with, they remember a 4 year gap (1941-1945) in WW2, or the 43 years we were at war with the soviets? The fact is we were fighting both of them. Also, your talking to teens who are JUST NOW FREAKING LEARNING THIS. You expect them to know the answer right away!?

    Learn to do your job and research before trying to make a buck on "stupid teenagers"

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    Apple_18 Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:40 am
    ...if he wanted to make a point i think he should have targeted television for not showing enough Cleopatra, or ipods for not reciting mathematical equations after every other song, or maybe the teachers themselves who would rather sit thru an entire semester of history class talking of the current football season rather than history, or maybe the teachers who are too busy txting, and having sexual affairs with theyre students....

    O.o on a side note, our schools get plenty of money. (at least i think they do) its just that they spend it on stupid things like new gyms instead of updated books or whatever..*sigh*

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    Shellie84 Female 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:43 am
    not reading all the posts, and I haven`t seen the vid because babies are about to be fed BUT back then you had to use your imagination to play, not computers to do it for you. It was unheard of to have pregnancies without marriage, today you have lots of young single teen mums. People had brains and morals and there weren`t a lot of senseless teen bashings and vandalism, whereas today it`s all over the news and poo.

    I wish I had grown up in the 60`s *daydreams*

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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:47 am
    With call of duty, medal of honour, brothers in arms etc. You would have thought people would have known about the Nazis after shooting them 1000s of times...

    "Now I never watch movies" Shows he`s a stuck-up pensioner who hates teenagers. Stop stereotyping. Back in the 60s, it`s not like children sat at home studying for hours on end.

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    razordragon Male 18-29
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:55 am
    People seem to think every single teenager is irresponsible all the time. Every one went through their own stupid phases growing up, and today is no different. Do you ever think the reason more people hear about all the bad stuff in the news, is because no one cares about the good stuff in the news, if there even is good stuff in the news.

    Nostalgia is a terrible thing, everyone forgets that the 60`s had Vietnam which was a war no one cared for. Stupid smelly hippies... nuff said. and Marijuana was abused wildly and abundantly. Things these days are pretty tame compared to the past, you just hear about the worst more often.

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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:55 am
    Americans are getting stupider: Agree

    Blame technology: Disagree

    Obviously he never heard of South East Asia

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    StopSmiling Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 3:58 am
    First of all, I turned this video off because I couldn`t take anyone who couldn`t pronounce "leisure" seriously.

    I have to agree that it`s shocking how the younger generation (my generation) come across as stupid. I blame the parents for allowing the kids to own all these distracting objects and not making sure they do study a reasonable amount. I alsoblame our generation for not having enough self-discipline. I`ve never had a playstation and I probably spend longer than is necessary on distracting websites but my parents do get involved and they do make sure that I am putting enouh effort into schoolwork.

    Parents, get involved with your kids` studying. At 16 and having just finished my GCSEs, I feel I`ve done passably well. If my parents hadn`t been there to say "look, get off the computer, do science", I doubt I would have felt that way.

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    StopSmiling Female 13-17
    331 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:00 am
    *enough. So much for sticking up for my generation`s intelligence.
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    teph2112 Male 13-17
    650 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:03 am
    ^^ that reminds me

    ITS PRONOUNCED LE-SHURE
    NOT LEE-SHURE

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    hampoofegg Male 18-29
    337 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:10 am
    Ironic that were watching that on this site, yes?
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    Tekno Female 30-39
    1212 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:29 am
    "What a load of crap. If it`s anything that`s dumbing down america, it`s bad teaching, lack of education funding, and parents pressuring schools to teach things that parents should be teaching(drugs, sex, socializing, manners)."
    AGREED.
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    eladrelkce Male 30-39
    528 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:43 am
    From my own personal experience I have to disagree with this man. When I was a teenager I hated school but my distraction has always been sports. I could give a rats a$$ about reading a fine book or going to a museum. But playing sports or following baseball and football has my full attention. Doesn`t make us dumb. Makes us intelligent in what we are interested in and SEEM dumb in what this professor is.
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    Djer Male 18-29
    842 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:51 am
    "ITS PRONOUNCED LE-SHURE
    NOT LEE-SHURE"

    Actually, it`s pronounced both ways in the US. Don`t ask me why.

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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5195 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:11 am
    Guys like this don`t usually even HAVE a computer. Back in the 1950`s there were people complaining about television, saying it was making everyone stupid, etc. Truth was, they were too cheap to buy a TV. Same with these a-holes. Never even BEEN on the internet, but think they know all about it and it`s evil.
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    yaimhere Female 18-29
    72 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:20 am
    Okay so nobody will probably read this but I`ll go ahead anyway. I took that exam in 2001 I was 17 years old; maybe it was just my neck of the woods but no one had cell phones yet. It was about 2003 when cell phones around here became cheap enough for wide spread use. Also we didn`t have lap tops and most students didn`t have their own computers yet (it was usually a graduation present)Anyways I did go to a technology highschool so at the time we did have more access to computers and internet than any other schools in the area at the time and I got a 99 on that regents. So I would like to see how he blames technology for that soviet question when back then technology was just about to take off but not yet as widespread as it is today?
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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
    817 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:52 am
    "Teenagers of today need to go to museums, read books, and revisit the classics et cetera, et cetera in order to become thinking productive member in society." two minutes later he pretty much says "Teachers need to cram their own ideologies down the throats of our youth on the subjects of art, politics, et cetera in order to become a thinking and productive member of society." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I LOVE IT!

    Anywho... for the rest of you thinking "Yeah, this guy`s right. Our parents didn`t have these social interactions via technological breakthroughs and they ended up fine where as I am a broken pile of crap who might as well be shoveled into the dung-heap on the outside of the human race."... you`re an idiot. A majority of our parents (Whether he wants to acknowledge it or not) were doped up and spending time at the mall or at war, and their parents before them worked through troubled times scraping for jobs and earning as much money as they could.

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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
    817 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:57 am
    We weren`t some Utopian race before the dreadful and dastardly internet came along where everybody went to museums and contemplated art, pondered the many layers of an intriguing ideology written at the dawn of the reconnaissance. People have always been different in the way they approach their own lives. Just because he feels he`s "cultured", doesn`t mean everyone else around him in the world is and should be.
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    Blakcat71388 Female 18-29
    876 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:58 am
    He needs to play some games... What a boring old man.
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    Thdot Male 30-39
    658 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:59 am
    While I do not agree that technology is the root cause of the problem, I do agree that young people today are the "dumbest generation" ever.
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3369 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:02 am
    As somone over 30 I think this guy is full of crap.
    He`s blaming technology for schools failing to teach you guys? That makes no sense. sure..everyone can and should educate themselves..but lets be honest...people will only educate themselves with subjects that intrest them.
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    marchhare123 Male 30-39
    547 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:12 am
    Wow, interesting that most of the people complaining are between 13-17. While yes not everyone is dumb.. it does seem to be getting worse. The problem is that people are forgetting how to think for themselves and form their own opinions and interact intelligently. And you should all blame primetimekin for making you all look bad.
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    ImDanny Male 13-17
    123 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:15 am
    Ha! They are say me dum!? They are the one dumb! I speek moar elefangantly t han most real smarrt poeple. I do reading more gooder two!
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:16 am
    ded5833: "In my opinion, if you`re not part of that particular generation, you`re not allowed to criticize it."

    Dangerous thinking there...

    So, according to your opinion, please do not let us catch you criticising any politician, Government decision/policy, police action, military action, or any other thing that you are not part of. Also, go ahead and send all of us I-A-B goers a list of your credentials so we all know what you are able to criticise so we can all keep track.

    Or, you can recognize our right to criticise anything we damn well please without having to listen to your ignorant opinion`s.

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    jhe394 Male 13-17
    35 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:21 am
    that explains why there voting for b. hussein obama
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:24 am
    And now my thoughts: I come from the generation that grew up without all the technology earlier and then in my teens was slowly introduced into it. (rather than growing up playing video games, etc. from the start)

    I remember the days when my friends and I would go out and build forts in the woods or ride our bikes down to the gas station to get some grub. I remember reading books because after the saturday morning cartoons, there was nothing else worth watching. Good times then. But, now I still read books, visit museums, love going antiquing, attend college... and I still play WoW, go to bars and drink till I`m actually dumber than normal and find time to comment on this forum right here. (which may actually ake me even dumber)

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    owen402006 Male 13-17
    119 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:27 am
    Only one thing to say. Ha told you so. Who`s wrong now eh? Stupid Americans.
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    MechBFP Male 18-29
    813 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:32 am
    All I heard in this video was "WAAAAAAH" *stomping feet*
    What a douche bag.
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    Hokage47 Male 18-29
    49 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:51 am
    I have to say I hate people picking on America... I mean I`ve met so pretty dumb Americans yes it true. But I met plenty of dumb Canadians, @ssholes from England, blockheads from France etc. When will people learn that people are simply dumb not what country they come from? Ignorant masses.

    If you look at the history of humans we are the most illogical beings ever. We kill our own kind for no reason, we persecute, we destroy, we do a lot of stupid things. Way before we had the internet.

    Why am I not allowed to enjoy both, the fine arts and the allure of the internet? I love to read books and play videogames. I love to learn from any source, be it new media; movies, t.v. interwbz and from old media, books, newspapers etc.

    I disagree with these demonizing mentalities that condemn the internet and technology.

  92. Profile photo of CaptainPat
    CaptainPat Male 18-29
    1584 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:58 am
    phasoo, is right, way back on page 1.
    And this guy is an idiot. saying we go to myspace instead of the Smithsonian Institute website?
    Thats like saying people in his child-hood were stupid because they hung out with thier friends instead of going to a museum.
    Honestly, in his generation kids were still dumbasses, they still did stupid things like teens do today. Only instead of spending all their time playing GTA they spent it playing Space Invaders. and instead of spending time on myspace they just went out with friends more often.
    But in todays world with gas so expensive, is it really that practical?
    And i believe todays generation is better. Because we are more socialy accepting. You notice all these people that are against gays, blacks, ect, are all middle aged adults? and that teenagers have the least problems?
    When most teens see a gay couple in public they think nothing of it. In fact, i saw a gay couple at the fair yesterday, and while older adults stared and
  93. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
    477 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:58 am
    He`s not blaming technology, he`s blaming the younger generations selfishness in using that technology to futher their own adolescent desires instead of using it to improve themselves. The problem isn`t technology, it`s typical teenage mental issues making them think that it`s all about them, they deserve something, and that they know everything already *cough Prime cough*. Mentors are needed to keep them disciplined.
    Of course, most people are just naturally stupid. We can`t all bee NASA engineers. I recall commenting that my own fellow classmates were lazy and ignorant back in `97. Intelligent people exist to lead the more populous, lesser minds into a better world.
    Anyway, the amount of intelligence on the planet is a constant: the population is growing.
    "A person is smart, People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals..."
  94. Profile photo of CaptainPat
    CaptainPat Male 18-29
    1584 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:02 am
    rolled their eyes, the teenagers didn`t even pay attention.
    Notice it`s the adults of today that are resposible for destroying the atmosphere, causing crazy high gas prices, pointless wars, and running our country into the ground.
    And none of them have the mindset to fix out problems.
    I think todays generation is much more up to fixing problems.
    And they have the technology to do it.
    The problem is the older adults seem to think technology is stupid. They dont seem to think it`s practical to be able to do things faster and more efficient.
    And honestly to sum it all up:
    Of course, teenagers do stupid things, they always have they always will.
    I just think todays teenagers wont grow up to be as hateful and harmful as today`s adults.
  95. Profile photo of owen402006
    owen402006 Male 13-17
    119 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:04 am
    Hokage47 I love how you tried to throw in some big words to sound intelligent. Sure there are "dumb" people from every nation but it is still nothing compared to America. Also if you look at these "dumb" people from other nations most of them follow the American lifestyle so there is no denying that Americans are stupid. If you watch a Canadian television channel and compare it to an American channel you can clearly notice the difference of intelligence.

    So cut your emo hair and stop crying about how everyone is "picking" on America. This is a serious matter and it needs to be brought to attention before anything can change for your country.

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    CaptainPat Male 18-29
    1584 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:06 am
    Infact, i guarantee, your parents did stupid things as teenagers, probably much of the things they tell you not to do.
    I know both of my parents used to smoke pot, my dad use to make pipe bombs, and i`m sure there are many other stories i never heard, but for the most part i don`t do any of that.
  97. Profile photo of teph2112
    teph2112 Male 13-17
    650 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:14 am
    Let`s just sum it up here

    It`s an American... bashing America
    Let them be.

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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
    4394 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:18 am
    well im 16 i PSP and i have a ipod but NAZIS was a
    friends with the USA?!?! how stupid are some kids?!?!
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    CaptainPat Male 18-29
    1584 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:20 am
    well im 16 i PSP and i have a ipod but NAZIS was a
    friends with the USA?!?! how stupid are some kids?!?!

    reread your post, then you tell me.

  100. Profile photo of owen402006
    owen402006 Male 13-17
    119 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:21 am
    "teph2112" it is not bashing. America clearly has a problem with their youth and it needs to be fixed.
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
    4394 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:21 am
    Hokage47
    Male, 13-17, Western US
    15 Posts Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:51:42 AM
    I have to say I hate people picking on America... I mean I`ve met so pretty dumb Americans yes it true. But I met plenty of dumb Canadians, @ssholes from England, blockheads from France etc. When will people learn that people are simply dumb not what country they come from? Ignorant masses.

    yes all people say that the US is dumb litte true
    but they are smart people in the US right?

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    mylostdog Female 18-29
    471 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:23 am
    boring. going on facebook.
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    andymaiden4 Male 13-17
    27 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:24 am
    Well, I think that if you look back at the past, at ceasar and cleopatra etc.. the past is a much worse world than it is today, through advancing in technology, not only in multimedia but in medicine and things of that nature, the world has become a much more friendly and helpful place to be brought up in. I guess he is forgetting that there are a lot of young people out there, not all of them can be stereotyped in his way, I mean younger generations than his have made more scientific advances in the past few the years than any years previous, so how can you possibly say technology is making us stupid when you look at how smart the younger generations really are, technology can only be a good thing for us.
  104. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:24 am
    This guy is an absolute close minded IDIOT. This mad me really angry because he`s blaming "us" under 30 and not our education system which I don`t think utilizes technology enough. We`re in a different time and maybe books really aren`t appealing to teens but maybe there are ways to get them interested by ways of technology and the internet. Do something about it then and stop just complaining and telling kids how lazy they are!

    High school is just for socialization anyway. It is to teach kids how to interact with their peers and some basic knowledge of different fields so when they go out in the real world they know how to interact. Study and learning habits is what kids should be taking away from high school for college and careers and I think it has to be approached now in a different way for a different era with the help of technology.

    I hate this jack a--.

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    JazzyPiano Female 18-29
    993 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:49 am
    "What a load of crap. If it`s anything that`s dumbing down america, it`s bad teaching, lack of education funding, and parents pressuring schools to teach things that parents should be teaching(drugs, sex, socializing, manners)."

    Well put, pasoo. Really, who`s to blame, our generation or the generations before us who made us who we are today?
    This is why I`m becoming a teacher...there`s too many bad ones out there who are just as close-minded as this guy.

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    Shanir Male 30-39
    1074 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:50 am
    He is smart he knows all stoopid americans :p
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    LemonTarte Female 18-29
    1441 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:16 am
    This just meens we have to be try and be smarterer and not so stoopid rite guys???
  108. Profile photo of taelmx
    taelmx Female 18-29
    247 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:18 am
    Technology vs. Politics.

    Let`s see...what`s the trend so far?

    I this guy is an ageist, and soon to be dinosaur. He should crawl back into his deceased mother`s vagina and get born again...

  109. Profile photo of jrod
    jrod Male 13-17
    26 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:29 am
    History has always been my favorite subject. I guess I`m stupid since I`m part of the "dumbest generation"
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    CtrlAltDef Male 18-29
    8 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:32 am
    109 comments already lol
    IAB USERS UNITE!
    FORM OF AN ANGRY THREAD!!
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    Triskele Female 18-29
    215 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:48 am
    Owen, so what you`re saying is that Americans are automatically stupid by default? No, there are many reasons Americans are stereotyped as stupid: there are many more people in the US than in other first-world English-speaking countries (such as Canada, the UK, Australia, or NZ), which equals a larger populace of dumb people. If we had less people overall, there wouldn`t be nearly as many idiots.

    Also, Americans get criticized because a large part of the world is bitter with the U.S.`s involvement in international matters and the fact that it is a military superpower. I`m sure the Visigoths and Scythians did the same thing to the Romans back in the day: criticized them because they were the world hegemon.

    Clearly, you need to get your self-righteous head out of your arse and realize every country has the same percentage of idiots. Unless Canada is apparently some utopian Jesus-blessed land, then have fun with that.

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    SyXxlunatic Male 13-17
    177 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 8:49 am
    all the world is most likely gonna get hit by a huge asteroid, get infected with an unstoppable disease, or get sucked into a black hole in a month, and they care about Education thats not going to take place, since the Atom-Smasher is going to make us go BOOM. or...maybe without a noise, dont know.
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    Samael_909 Male 18-29
    1 post
    July 24, 2008 at 8:54 am
    This guy does have some points. However, firstly they are far to general to really be all that valid and the fundamental problem with them is that they are based on a narrow minded idea of what classifies intelligence. I am entirely certain that he can recite more facts than I can on demand, however intelligence it not measured by how much information you can absorb, but rather how one can interpret and apply this information for the betterment of his/herself and those around them. Just like I`m certain that he knows more about history, I am also fairly certain he cannot field strip and clean a paintball marker or build a computer. Both this things require some level of intelligence to do properly, but that in and of itself accomplishes nothing, what you do with it does. The road goes both ways, and the people like him need to stop dumbing down what intelligence is to to mere book facts, cause there`s a big wide world out there you know Mr. Bauerlein.
  114. Profile photo of sheriffcable
    sheriffcable Male 18-29
    44 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:02 am
    Our generation inherits a plundered economy, a multi-trillion national debt, a declining standard of living, 2 wars, and an educational system that`s a joke and we`re whats wrong with the country. I love being criticized by a generation that went from smoking grass and dropping acid to being greedy establishment sellouts.F**K MARK BAUERLEIN. F**K his book too. And yeah- that particle collider is bad news.
  115. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:06 am
    Samael I totally agree with that. I am not the best speller, I don`t have the best vocabulary and I don`t know more straight facts than this guy but I still feel like I`m an intelligent person because of how I apply what I do know and how I take the information that`s at hand and use it.

    In simple terms, it`s street smarts and this guy is lacking!

  116. Profile photo of dave32891
    dave32891 Male 18-29
    542 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:09 am
    kids are stupider today. Numbers don`t lie. But it`s not totally our fault. We have crappy parents. Look at all the dumb kids in your high school and then look at their parents. I bet you 9 times out of 10 the parents couldn`t care less about their kids.
  117. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:14 am
    I actually am so proud of how everyone is responding to this on this thread. People in this forum are on the internet a lot, like the generation of people he`s talking about "wasting" all their time in front of a computer. I think everyone has added something really interesting and intelligent in response to this. We have interesting debates on all sorts of things and websites like this are a portal to more than just socializing and gaming but things like science, things in the new, politics, religion and so forth.

    Of course we still have our dumb things like WTF and Awwws of the Day, but who cares, we`re entertained by all sorts of things!

  118. Profile photo of HuskysTiger
    HuskysTiger Male 18-29
    629 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:16 am
    I agree with starrstreet`s posts. Kids are undergoing lots of changes during high school, why should they care about history when that won`t help them with what`s going on in their life?
    And I think that not everything that is learned in school is really needed for whatever jobs or careers people get in to. I am so glad that I don`t need to take another math course. Or science, or history. If I want a little historical or scientific accuracy I can just Google for it.
    I just realized, it must suck to be a student in, say, the year 3000. That`s an extra thousand years of history to add to the 7000 we already know. (correct me if I`m wrong but recorded history is as far back as 5000 BC right?)
  119. Profile photo of RandyTheFool
    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
    817 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:21 am
    owen402006: "Also if you look at these "dumb" people from other nations most of them follow the American lifestyle so there is no denying that Americans are stupid. If you watch a Canadian television channel and compare it to an American channel you can clearly notice the difference of intelligence."

    First off: Your whole "People from other countries allegedly look `dumb` because they follow the trends of America" point you had... what`s more dumb? The trend setters making the idiotic trends... or the people who see that it`s an idiotic trend, acknowledge it as such, yet follow th trend anyway? Yeah, it`s the latter.

    Secondly: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You decide different nations intelligence by comparing their TELEVISION PROGRAMS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  120. Profile photo of ImDanny
    ImDanny Male 13-17
    123 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:27 am
    Dave, stupider isn`t a word. Maybe this guy`s onto something.

    Anyway, I`m 20 seconds into this video. The guy claims 52% of high school seniors chose "Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, or Fascist Italy as our ally, not the Soviet union". I`ll admit, I`m a sophomore in high school, but given those choices on a test, it would be automatic for me to choose the Soviet Union.

    I think why a lot of us have trouble understanding these stats is because we were or are lucky enough to have been enlisted in successful school districts.

    Also, as more is suspected out of the younger generations. I`m certain that my parents wouldn`t understand a page of my math textbooks, much less be able to solve one of the problems. Sure, our grades may slip, but it`s on material many adults don`t even know exists.

  121. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:31 am
    ImDanny, I didn`t even think about that last thing you brought up. My sister is doing things in high school that our parents just started to learn about in college. Hmmm that`s interesting.
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    MrAmerican Male 13-17
    18 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:34 am
    I no stoopid. Me smart. Pie= Bludberry. mmmm bludberry.
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    MrSchreiber Male 18-29
    167 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:37 am
    Hmm.
    I think I`m gonna send this guy a hate mail.
    Yay me.
  124. Profile photo of jhe394
    jhe394 Male 13-17
    35 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:37 am
    that explains why young people are voting for barack obama.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:38 am
    ^^Triskele "Clearly, you need to get your self-righteous head out of your arse and realize every country has the same percentage of idiots"

    Sorry hun, not true. The US has more than it`s fair share, unfortunately...

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/

  126. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:41 am
    ImDanny, I didn`t even think about that last thing you brought up. My sister is doing things in high school that our parents just started to learn about in college. Hmmm that`s interesting.
  127. Profile photo of Dickardo
    Dickardo Male 13-17
    179 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:48 am
    ImDanny i think you have a great point there.. nearly all the stuff in many of my school books if i showed my mum she wouldnt be able to make heads or tails of it.. but the "older and wiser" people still look down to us like we are something they just scraped off their shoe.
    I dont blame most of the teenagers who pay adults little respect.. they hardly get any from them in the first place.
  128. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
    ImDanny, I have to disagree... I can`t speak for the US, but in the UK at least school material is vastly dumbed down from what it used to be. And before I get flamed, I`m not just talking about dumbed-down in recent years, I mean it`s been going on for decades.

    Example: Recently, a bunch of high-school chemistry students in the UK were given exam questions from the last 50 years... The average grade was 25%.

    Full story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7497486.stm

  129. Profile photo of Dickardo
    Dickardo Male 13-17
    179 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:03 am
    i was born in 1993 :|..
    and yet.. i fully agree with you dainty.. nearly all the people my age at school and chavs who think theyre better than everyone else and cant even and 1 to 1..
    i must be an odd exeption i guess :S
  130. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:05 am
    davymind, you have to do some thinking of your own though about this experiment. It is how these students were taught the material. 50 years ago chemistry was not taught the same as it is now. Maybe now we have a different approach to the same problems and more givens and tables that have facts that 50 years ago had to be figured out with calculations.

    50 years ago there must be things in chemistry that schools now don`t think are relevant that have been excluded over the years for different reasons. That article doesn`t say though if the chemistry being TAUGHT NOW is any easier or harder than that of 50 years ago.

    All you should take away from that is students are being taught different things in different ways from 50 years ago.

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    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:08 am
    "Experts who have been looking at the results concluded that students today are required to do fewer complex calculations. " Maybe that is so but because they`ve eliminated tedious calculations that are now just displayed in a reference table/book that you keep with you on the day of a test so that there is more room to teach things that have been expanded added since 1958!
  132. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
    477 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:09 am
    Well that`s great that the new students are learning more in class...but isn`t the older generation responsible for getting that information and making it accessable in the first place?
    Like I said. There are LOTS of stupid people out there. But stupid people are neccessary for society also. It`s the intelligent exceptions that make the difference. I`m sure that, if looked at as a whole, the ratio of smart:stupid people is not much different than it was in generations past. The real problem is attitude. The general public has become obsessed with celebrity. Everyone wants to be famous and is more concerned with popularity than actual strength of character.
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    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:09 am
    expanded and added*
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15774 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:13 am
    Yes, lets blame more. EVERYONE seems to be good at that. I bet if we point our fingers even harder at the problem, it`ll just go away!


    I`m really not in the mood to be insulted further about my generation. Thanks for the offer, though.

  135. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:13 am
    I can`t get over how poor of an experiment that was!

    "Eight questions were selected from each decade, and were mixed up in the examination paper, so that students could not easily tell which decade they came from." There is an obvious problem if students could look at something and go oh WOW that is a question from 50`s, look how silly the wording is and how not relevant it is to what I am being taught now.

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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3298 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:15 am
    i agree.... like the other day i was searching for measuring cups for my science project, and i ended up watching some lesbos doing it while eating their own shiet..... totally changed my life
  137. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:18 am
    ^^ "50 years ago there must be things in chemistry that schools now don`t think are relevant that have been excluded over the years for different reasons."

    I take your point starrstreet, but the study was specifically designed to cover topics which are still on the current curriculum.

  138. Profile photo of Tonyjet
    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3298 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:23 am
    and i dont think that were getting stupid (regarding the IQ level or scores) but its more due to the fact that we dont exercise our minds as much anymore, people get amazed at me when i figure out a simple percentage without using a calculator, maybe its due to the fact that we have calculators in our phones, computers, and desks, hell even in our watches... life is far too easy now a days, think about the poo kids worry about, "OMG, jenny doesnt talk to me in myspace nomore, ugh shes such a bitch, ugh can u believe she deleted me"

    And yeah I agree in par with this statement ""kids are stupider today. Numbers don`t lie. But it`s not totally our fault. We have crappy parents. Look at all the dumb kids in your high school and then look at their parents. I bet you 9 times out of 10 the parents couldn`t care less about their kids."

    but just at the part about the parents being dumb am gonna go out on a limb and say that am more mature than half of the parents fr

  139. Profile photo of Lovelivelife
    Lovelivelife Female 13-17
    41 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:25 am
    Someone wasn`t very popular in High School.

    What a fuddy duddy. 50 years ago no one liked history class. Why, because what we really cared about whats happining now and in the future. Honmestly we aren`t going to use history in our future very much unless we choose too. Also people do care about music and art thats why we have IPODS and internet. He is just jealous that he was a complete loser in high school that was made fun of for watching PBS.

  140. Profile photo of Tonyjet
    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3298 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:26 am
    "Yes, lets blame more. EVERYONE seems to be good at that. I bet if we point our fingers even harder at the problem, it`ll just go away!


    I`m really not in the mood to be insulted further about my generation. Thanks for the offer, though.

    yeah u just go and ride giraffes all u want to prove ur intelligence...

  141. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:28 am
    I think that people performing this experiment should have also researched what has been added to chemistry classes curriculum`s over 50 years since there are calculations we have taken out. You understand how I am looking at it, right davymid?
  142. Profile photo of thats_nifty
    thats_nifty Female 13-17
    416 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:29 am
    Yeah, guess who screwed up this generation?

    I mean, it`s not like we invented all this technology and then decided it would make a great excuse.

    Maybe our mentors should stop calling us "lazy and ignorant" and start trying to fix this instead of sitting on thier asses and complaining. I`ll do my part if they do thiers.

  143. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:36 am
    ^^ I do starrstreet. I don`t know how the research was carried out, the article doesn`t go into details. However, it was carried out by the Royal Society of Chemistry in the UK, which is the premier Chemistry research organisation in Britain- so I assume they know what they were doing and researhed the study thoroughly. Just an assumption though.
  144. Profile photo of Vanwa
    Vanwa Female 13-17
    357 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:45 am
    Wrong wrong wrong wrong. I am on the internet all the time. I play video games. I read manga. I have a cellphone. I even have a dvd player in my room.


    I read about 4 books a week. I read "To Kill a Mocking Bird" in 2nd grade. I went to the Louvre. My favorite mueseum is the Art Institute in Chicago. I have taken history classes and I get a 4.0

    I am not stupid.

  145. Profile photo of tatervent
    tatervent Male 18-29
    373 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:49 am
    Awwwwwwwwww.... I love documents.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
    2422 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:57 am
    Tech-savvy kids have an advantage in solving the problems created by this guy`s technophobic generation. Face it. We won`t solve the climate crisis by learning about the Medicis and the importance of Florence. And I say that as someone who loves history.
  147. Profile photo of ayull
    ayull Male 18-29
    239 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:59 am
    "In my opinion, if you`re not part of that particular generation, you`re not allowed to criticize it. "

    Wow - and thanks for sharing that richly informed opinion with us too!

    By that logic it would follow that anyone not of the nazi party should not have been able to criticize Hitler - anyone who isn`t an elected official would be unable to criticize politicians - the unfortunate masses who aren`t employed by financial institutions shouldn`t be critical of the lending policies at banks, I could go on forever - but I digress.

    Since I`m not a brain-dead moron, I`m probably not qualified to point out to you that you are a narrow-minded retard. No worries though... as it turns out there are plenty of your kind out there to take care of that for me.

  148. Profile photo of Triskele
    Triskele Female 18-29
    215 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:00 am
    There`s a difference, though, between stupid and uneducated. Stupid is the lack of common sense (i.e. teasing a lion with a steak) and uneducated is what kids are suffering from. I don`t blame technology, though, I blame lack of funds for education because so much money is put into national defense, while humanitarian programs are underfunded.

    As others have said, what did he do as a kid? Stay inside and read about dynamics and medieval Italy while his friends went outside to play? I think it`s reasonable to blame technology on childhood obesity, not lack of education.

  149. Profile photo of kickass9
    kickass9 Male 13-17
    176 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:01 am
    I resent this article. This man is simply out of touch.
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    kittyloaf Male 18-29
    213 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:06 am
    I agree with the video. I go to college and the kids are always talking on their cell phones or on facebook at the computer labs. There are only a few who see the potential of things they can learn and use that potential.
  151. Profile photo of shiggin
    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:08 am
    i think hes half right and half wrong.
    Hes right because weather u like it or not, we are spending a lot of time on the computer. Its not really good for us, but this is like...the norm, like back in his days his fun was pushing a hoop down a dirt road.
    He is wrong saying we`re the dumbest generation. As the years go on, knowlage gets higher standards. Im still in high school and the only person i can ask to maybe SOMEWHAT help me with an assinment is my dad, because he has a harvard diploma. If i ask my mom, she cant answer for they never taught her what im now learning in grade 11.
    But i kno for one thing, us "teens" hate doin homework. and thats what more then half of our mark is based on. But since nowadays we get an average of 6 hours of homework, who would want to sit there all fcukin day finshing math homework that u will never really use in real life.
    Thats just my thought
  152. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:11 am
    That`s why I hate this guy Vanwa... it is like he is saying EVERY SINGLE person under 30 is a dumba--.

    Of course there are people out there that pride themselves on how dumb they are and how they hate books, everyone has them.

    It`s his swooping assumption that everyone who owns a computer, blackberry, ipod, all the video game systems (which I do) is dumb and doesn`t seek how any new knowledge. Not true!

  153. Profile photo of buttersrules
    buttersrules Male 40-49
    372 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:19 am
    "That`s a dumb point. History proves we`re all smarter than our parents. The internet is the easiest and most efficient way of relaying information. In my opinion, I`m gonna learn a hell of a lot more on the internet than I am watching the great debate on abc"
    i-am-emo, 13-17. I was using the internet before you were even born, kid. So who came up with the internet? People that are currently probably older than your parents. But you`re smarter. Good one.
  154. Profile photo of ayull
    ayull Male 18-29
    239 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:22 am
    I think you (the collective you) doth protest too much.

  155. Profile photo of Defqon
    Defqon Male 13-17
    90 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:22 am
    So technology is f*king us over?
    There are still places without technology. Are they thirsting for knowledge and trying to look up when the next art festival is coming to town? ???
    No, they are worshiping the f*king sun !!!
  156. Profile photo of Stentorian
    Stentorian Male 13-17
    425 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:29 am
    Yes, many people are stupid.

    Then there are those that aren`t.

    Personally, I`m a genius.

  157. Profile photo of Gerbear
    Gerbear Female 18-29
    1186 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:30 am
    his superman hair curl was epic
    on a serious note, i`m of this generation and i can see where he`s coming from
    most of my friends are on their cell phone and on myspace on every possible occassion
    between class, during class, when they should be doing work
    they`re texting away
    though, i don` think he should generalize everyone
    i, for one, am an avid reader. i do not have a laptop/game console/ipod in my room
    all i hav is my cell phone and i had to wait 13 years to get that babii
  158. Profile photo of txcello
    txcello Female 13-17
    4 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:31 am
    I don`t understand how this guy could say this about us! He talks about `things we do not know` and crap like, because we were not there!!! We are still studying it at school!! And with fact that we arn`t going on the internet to art and history, is because we don`t want to most of the time! I bet anyone 20 bucks that when this guy was a teenager, he didn`t want to do anything like that!
    Jeez, stop being a hypocrite and get on with your life!
  159. Profile photo of SageLudwig
    SageLudwig Male 18-29
    17 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:37 am
    I understand his point, it`s not that internet make us dumb, it`s that it allows a short-reward situation.

    In the past generation, if you said hitler was USA`s ally other`s would socialy judge you bad, now you can simple block them and add neo-nazis..

    Too much choice and flexibility is the fundamental element of alienation.

    But I disagree that the solution is steping back, we are going to leap it Darwin style.

  160. Profile photo of Vindicate
    Vindicate Female 18-29
    511 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:57 am
    Just goes to show - new technology supercedes old values. How many people are going to pay $15 to get into a museum to see a painting when they can get the same painting through googling?

    What`s basically happening is the "classic" education is going out the window because people aren`t forced to learn everything teachers want - they can go online and fool around, or research things that interest them instead. More likely than not, they`re just fooling around.

    That`s one of the reason I hate the general education system in colleges. What`s the point in taking two years worth of "rounding out" courses if you know what you want to study? Why should someone have to take a humanities class if they want to major in physics? It certainly won`t help in an religious studies major`s career to know about chemical titrations...

  161. Profile photo of myrikal
    myrikal Male 30-39
    67 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:57 am
    He did in fact say that everything is accessible on the internet, museum sites, art, etc. His point is that 90% of teens choose not to look up those sites and instead opt for digital entertainment. They choose to socialize on Myspace or Facebook with friends rather than study. Whether or not teens decide to allow these advances in technology to "dumb" them down though, I feel is up to the teens themselves.
  162. Profile photo of FunnyKid107
    FunnyKid107 Male 13-17
    2 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:01 pm
    "But I disagree that the solution is steping back, we are going to leap it Darwin style." ~ SageLudwig

    natural selection for the win!

  163. Profile photo of SageLudwig
    SageLudwig Male 18-29
    17 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    Myrikal, I think it do have a dumbening effect when one can "create" one reality at his will based on making him feel happy.

    Studiyng is hard, but in "the real world" it would give you an advantage .. but on the internet, you don`t get such reward, you won`t make more friends for it.

    The main issue is, we no longer adapt to survive the real world, where smartness is required and such .. we adapt to "take advantage" of the virtual alienated world.

  164. Profile photo of theuhstuf
    theuhstuf Female 70 & Over
    168 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    fu*k the future, fu*k it!
  165. Profile photo of Quik2TheStab
    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:20 pm
    I`m a genius, so drat that guy.
  166. Profile photo of LestatR13
    LestatR13 Female 18-29
    54 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:22 pm
    I wonder which generation is in charge of educating the under 30s...the ones who created the internet and video games....OH WAIT!

    And way to blame the Humanities professors, assh*le. He pisses me off way too much.

    This guy is Agist. It`s an actual form of bigotry.

  167. Profile photo of admisaok
    admisaok Male 18-29
    516 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:22 pm
    im want to punch that guy in the face. you don`t make sweeping generalizations about a generation that is still forming... how will he know how sucky we are until we are the ones in charge? i think he is just scared that we are about to stand up and take responsibility from his generation
  168. Profile photo of look215
    look215 Male 18-29
    1084 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 12:47 pm
    yet we are the most highly educated generation going in record numbers to get our under grads/masters/Phd`s..... how does that work?
  169. Profile photo of MANAX99
    MANAX99 Male 70 & Over
    132 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    Let`s see how well that prick does after he`s locked in a cave with some wood and wild animals with a nothing but classic books for a year. Then we`ll see how technology and society are so bad for us.
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    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
    433 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 2:07 pm
    phasoo
    Male, 13-17, Western US
    What a load of crap. If it`s anything that`s dumbing down america, it`s bad teaching, lack of education funding, and parents pressuring schools to teach things that parents should be teaching(drugs, sex, socializing, manners).
    ------------------------
    I have to agree about how parents should teach drugs, sex and socializing, but I don`t think more funding for schools is going to help. I think that rather than schools being politically correct government institutions, they should be privatized (or at least brought to state or local level) and allowed to compete by prices, technology available, and teachers. There should be no tenure. With tenure, there is no incentive to do better work and keep your job.

    I`d post longer, but this character limit sucks.

  171. Profile photo of SageLudwig
    SageLudwig Male 18-29
    17 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 2:15 pm
    Nice idea Abacab, this way the schools can make contracts with Exon Mobil/etc and teach us their ways.

    Oh, it`s so good getting rid of the evil government for evil companies :3 One of them we can CONTROL with our wallets! (if arabs weren`t richer than north americans that is..)

  172. Profile photo of Space_girl
    Space_girl Female 18-29
    627 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 2:27 pm
    I`m glad I`m the opposite of what that man was describing. There`s hope yet!
  173. Profile photo of M3ntal1313
    M3ntal1313 Male 18-29
    448 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    i iz not dumbb
  174. Profile photo of swtdreams285
    swtdreams285 Female 18-29
    1408 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Heh, they don`t seem to realize that once they hit the senior homes, we the so-called dumb generation will be their only source of future income and well being.

    Ack, bet that didn`t make sense but that`s the first thought that crossed my head. Besides, which generation increased internet use among younger people? Was it in the mid 90s?

  175. Profile photo of NicoNico
    NicoNico Female 18-29
    444 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    This is just stupid. Kids are stupid whether they have technology or not. Anyone who rants about kids nowadays being more stupid than ever are ignorant and obviously do not remember when they were a kid themselves. I believe it was Plato that even had his own rant against the kids in his time. See? Completely normal thing.

    This especially pisses me off after I`ve just finished figuring out how to install TinyFugue (a MUD client) onto my computer. How is communication like that not good for society?

  176. Profile photo of Ohnjaynb
    Ohnjaynb Male 18-29
    592 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    He is a bit biased, as it seems, against the internet and media, but he is right. I go and ask people who took honors English classes if they have heard of Geoffrey Chaucer and get blank stares in return. People are lazy and I know nobody likes it when someone talks down to them, but it`s true that sometimes you need to be reminded of your own sloth. We need to raise the bar for young people. Make them read books as soon as they get into high school. They can do it. I think the educational system is lazy itself and something should be done to prevent this downward spiral.

    I myself love facebook. I use it regularly, but when I waste time online, I would much rather be looking at a Wikipedia article--and more importantly checking out the sources cited by those entries.

    I don`t think new forms of media are to blame. If I`m bored at home and my internet is out, I don`t immediately reach for a book. We must, however, have other motivation for expanding our knowledge.

  177. Profile photo of idiotkiller
    idiotkiller Male 13-17
    162 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    I agree that kids are getting dumber, but I don`t think that the Internet is to blame. Its like saying cars are the main reason we have car accidents. Maybe if there was no internet, TV, or phones we wouldn`t be so focused on our social networks and our personal lives but that doesn`t mean they can`t be just as helpful for expanding the mind and building character. The Internet, and that includes Wikipedia, can be a very good source of information if you`re careful enough. You can order books online, take virtual tours of museums, and rent your fancy foreign films (which I guess are better made that American films?). Yes, people can write whatever they want on the Internet(s). Just like they can do in movies, TV, and your precious drating books. I`m sick of people condemning the Internet as a portal to porn, pedophiles, and plagiarism, which it is. It`s also a good way to get useful information. How come books and plays are considered tasteful works of art,
  178. Profile photo of idiotkiller
    idiotkiller Male 13-17
    162 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    while movies and video games are labeled as the main reason for violence and laziness? It’s not like the story of Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion is any less compelling than Beowulf, and you get the added bonus of being the protagonist. It’s not like your moving any more when you’re reading than you would be playing video games, and the stories behind them are getting more artful every day. Will I be missing out if I choose to spend 5 hours playing Tom Clancy’s Rainbow six instead of reading all three inches worth of pages in the actual book? I’m getting the same story, accept now I can actually see what’s going on as well experiencing at least an idea of what the main character feels like. Sure, me sitting in a comfy sofa in no actual danger isn’t going to allow me to understand being pinned down behind two inches of concrete decorated with bullet holes and the blood of my best friend
  179. Profile photo of idiotkiller
    idiotkiller Male 13-17
    162 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    but it’s certainly closer than sitting in a comfy sofa reading about it. I do agree that inspiration isn’t a good motivation to vote. Just look at how much admiration is going to a guy who never advertises his campaign, only throwing around what’s going wrong and vague promises of how to fix them. Stop right now, don’t bother typing about how I’m a xenophobe or an elitist or whatever, I can assure you that the most racist, ignorant thing you can do is vote for a man with less experience than his opponent and no important political background just because he’s young and black
  180. Profile photo of Ohnjaynb
    Ohnjaynb Male 18-29
    592 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    I don`t really know if any one is gong to read this, but I really don`t care.

    One of my philosophy professors at Rutgers--which, by the way, has one of the best philosophy departments in the world--told me something that will stick with me forever. He basically said: Take a look at all these self-help books out there. Most of the things that they say are just reiterations of statements dating back to Aristotle. e.g. How do you get yourself to work out every day? You just start going to the gym; you force yourself to go. Eventually it becomes habit. That`s what we need to do.

    Torture the highschoolers with a few thousand pages to peruse during the course of their studies. Eventually they`ll form at least some semblance of habit, hopefully. They`ll thank you for it later.

    This is what we have to do. Fortunately, we can do this and everyone can keep their facebook pages.

    p.s. Myspace sucks anyway
    p.p.s. Myspace is teh gay.
    p.p.p.s. Sorry, I had to get that out of my syste

  181. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    Idiotkiller... go do your research, there are plenty of REAL reasons people are voting for Obama... don`t even start this, you just sounded as ignorant as that guy in the clip.
  182. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm
    Everyone needs to stop making these swooping assumptions of people, ie. youth, Obama voters, religious groups, Americans, races, genders ect! When you are trying to make a serious point it just sounds ridiculous. I said serious because it`s different when it is done to be humorous and we have to come to an understanding of the difference as well.
  183. Profile photo of starrstreet
    starrstreet Female 18-29
    401 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    Look I just did it! I didn`t mean everyone like that, I meant people who do it haha. Oh god I`m thinking to much.
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    NexusLetum Female 18-29
    136 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    Since no one else has, I`m gonna mention his comment about an hour or less of studying. I kinda think technology has allowed people to study more efficiently in a shorter amount of time so he just proves his ignorance. He should realize as a teacher that quality is better than quantity, but his teaching skills certainly seem to lack that method.
  185. Profile photo of krizznitz
    krizznitz Male 13-17
    150 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    Congratulations!!! Every teenager in America now knows that YOU are a DOUCHEBAG!!!!!
  186. Profile photo of itsas333cret
    itsas333cret Male 13-17
    99 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm
    Everyone is an idiot.

    old, young, black, white,

    we are all dumbasses

  187. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:46 pm
    "It’s not like the story of Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion is any less compelling than Beowulf"

    You`re kind of proving the point of the video.

  188. Profile photo of Mitchster
    Mitchster Male 18-29
    544 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:51 pm
    I believe the non nonconformities in teenagers are overriding the laws today.

    Way back when, teenagers were drinking when they were 16 years old: It was against the law, but who cares? Of course, now it`s: You drink underage, and you get serious jail time. Teens are doing things teens are supposed to be doing: They are saying "F*ck the man! I`m an individual and I`ll do what I want!"

  189. Profile photo of psychoman364
    psychoman364 Male 18-29
    372 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 5:53 pm
    2 points:

    Phasoo`s first post embodied my sentiments: personal opinion. People all have different opinions, opinions that can`t be changed. If someone doesn`t like studying history or reading, it`s their opinion and their choice. His opinions aren`t and can`t be inherently better than someone elses` because they`re opinions on taste.

    Secondly, he`s really not helping his cause here. He tries to make himself sound sophisticated, more knowledgeable and smarter than everyone else. I`m 19, and I have a fair degree of confidence that I could leave him with a blank stare with one sentence about psychopharmacology. Which relates to my first point - he makes his opinions sound inherently better than the opinions of teenagers, when there is no such thing as an inherently better opinion.

  190. Profile photo of Eika
    Eika Female 13-17
    5 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 6:55 pm
    People in my generation (just turned 18, I can talk) aren`t any dumber than that of another generation. I WILL accept that we- on the whole- lack drive and ambition, but so do dozens of `adults` I know.

    In my class, I see kids who ignore the teachers and spend their entire class texting. They`re there because they have to be; after school, they`re at part-time jobs at department stores, supermarkets, or McDonalds. Several of them now have full-time jobs at those stores, and will likely work their the rest of their lives. A handful of us- maybe a quarter- plan on doing great things with our lives.

    I can name twenty adults off the top of my head who work full-time at department stores or factories, changing jobs often and doing 2 jobs at a time. When they`re at home, they relax, watch TV, eat, or deal with their kids; nothing educational. Excluding relatives and teachers, I can only name 3 adults who do NOT follow this pattern.

    The majority is always dumb. Don`t blame it on youth.

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    shelerella Female 18-29
    160 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 7:48 pm
    Wha-wha-what?!?! Teenagers would rather hang out with their friends than go to museums? Woah! This guy is a genius! He has discovered a totally unexplored phenomenon! Somebody get him a medal!
    This is not new news. Teenagers have been ignoring education in the name of friends for generations.
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    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
    433 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:40 pm
    SageLudwig
    Male, 18-29, S. America
    8 Posts Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:15:14 PM
    Nice idea Abacab, this way the schools can make contracts with Exon Mobil/etc and teach us their ways.
    ---------------
    True, there might be problems... But I wouldn`t say that the public school system we have now is anywhere near perfect either, with dropout rates in LA at 25% and even higher in other cities. Something is wrong, and it seems like since the introduction of the federal Department of Education and No Child Left Behind, things have only gotten worse.

    Corporatism in privatized schools may be a problem these days, but that`s because personal responsibility has gone down the drain. Everybody expects the government to make decisions for them, instead of researching the options by themselves.

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    phasoo Male 18-29
    285 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    No abacab trust me, schools NEED more money. Come to phoenix in arizona, or mesa. wait, stay out of mesa.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
    582 posts
    July 24, 2008 at 11:25 pm
    He`s just some intellectual elitist who thinks that unless your time is spent in the pursuit of knowledge, then you`re an unmotivated moron.

    BTW, I think it`s shoddy education and lack of intellectual curiosity that`s to blame, but honestly, if this is America`s dumbest time for young adults, I`d sure like to know how society even operated 150 years before school was mandatory.

    Remember when you`re a kid and everything was cool? Where learning was fun? When we had nap time (btw, Kindergarten doesn`t have nap time anymore)? Yeah, it`s because learning isn`t fun.

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    SageLudwig Male 18-29
    17 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 1:51 am
    Abacab, it`s not so much "who" is driving it .. but "how" .. the current education system in MOST of the world is based on the idea of "copying" each other, memorizing books instead of figuring out your own ideas based on books and the world around you.

    It`s "socialy" more efficient to have non-logical people, driven only by social status, because they suppose most people aren`t smart enough to figure out what`s right and what`s wrong by themselves.

    Will Wright (Sim City/Spore/The Sims creator and a drating genious.) did a keynote a couple of days ago on ComicCon (What a cult source eh?) and he said something that really caught my eye.

    He said that if you go to a kindergarden and ask children that paint/dance/write/create/have interest in life to raise their hands, all of them will. But go forward a few years in college and less than 1% will.

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    Aqua_Bird Female 13-17
    532 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 6:57 am
    It really depends on the person. If that person has a drive to learn, they can learn SO MUCH using the internet about anything, even `ideas` as he mentions. Same with art. Art has now become more `accessible` due to digital art being so much easier to create and manage.

    But if the person does not have a natural drive to learn, they will blame their parents and teachers, despite the fact that they can learn about ANY topic that interests them with a simple internet search.

    Oh JESUS, 52% didn`t know Soviet Russia was an ally?!

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    Tooostep Male 50-59
    35 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 7:06 am
    I have five children. The oldest in his thirties, and the youngest eighteen. I have two that are married and have children, and are great parents who not only contribute greatly to their children, but to society as well in being hard working, law abiding young adults. I have two that are presently attending college and working, and the youngest just grauated from high school and is working full time.
    Intellect is a wonderful and must needed attribute for any society to progress and succeed, but I believe morals and values are what really determines all individuals true identity and actions being the foundation upon which that same society is able to function successfully.
    I truely believe the world would be a much happier, friendlier and safer place with more good moral people than a world of intellectual geniuses. I see the majority of young adults as America`s greatest asset!
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    maxog1 Male 13-17
    145 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 12:07 pm
    "artwork, and documents, and politics" *falls asleep* huh? those exsist? i thought they were just in the land of the magical tv.
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    turkeyman Male 13-17
    379 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 4:19 pm
    life-styles change over new decades, no son will live the exact life of his father and people are going to have to learn to accept that?
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    RedSuit1 Male 18-29
    134 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 5:31 pm
    look even parents are disagreeing with this statement shows how wrong this man is.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 8:33 pm



    I believe the comments posted thus far
    prove the argument beyond all doubt



    "Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" (Samuel Clements )



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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    Oh... and Toostep... 21 grammatical and spelling mistakes in one post. Obviously the educational standard hasn`t dropped just recently.
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    Telzen Male 18-29
    22 posts
    July 25, 2008 at 10:39 pm
    Heh I wish I could visit some museums, I don`t even know any around here. My family didn`t even have a pc till I was 14 (1999) and hell I`ve never had the money for much technology (don`t even have a cell phone lol). I wonder how those that grow up after computers got really main stream will turn out? Though as to the topic I do find a lot of teens are way into things like myspace. Though I think its more a failing of the school system and parents.
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    OJpimpson Male 18-29
    44 posts
    July 27, 2008 at 2:01 am
    Solja Boy. That`s all I have to say.
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    Karen_Lumb Female 13-17
    28 posts
    July 27, 2008 at 8:37 am
    Britain has a problem with education as well, it doesn`t help that exams are getting so easy to pass I mean a kid writes F**k off on his English Language paper and gets 7% he would have got 12% if he would have added an exclamation point at the end. What is that promoting? I know I`m pretty bad at English, but least I actually managed to write answers in my paper.
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    matchstick Female 30-39
    62 posts
    July 30, 2008 at 11:25 pm
    Children arguing about their own education is like pigs discussing the quality of their slop.
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    sh4dyp Male 18-29
    1 post
    August 8, 2008 at 5:08 pm
    The Digital Age just amplifies the stupidity and Intelligence in people, and about the 52% of seniors thinking that the Nazis and Japs were allies of the US... well with all the tests we get now DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK WE EVEN LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE QUESTION!?!? No we make cool drawings with the bubbles! but there is some stupid people out there so it was probably only 10% that thought that.
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    admisaok Male 18-29
    516 posts
    November 2, 2008 at 7:23 pm
    this guy thinks he is better than everybody... "your friends will not make you respect the venetian republic of the late renaissance-early renaissance heh heh"
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    YugureKage Female 18-29
    1205 posts
    January 15, 2011 at 7:17 am
    This guy has some good points but he also is too arrogant for those points to really be as powerful as they could have been.

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