Michael Moore Vs. Westboro Baptist Church

Submitted by: DazedCnfused 9 years ago in Funny
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Michael Moore joins with a group of gays to follow around the Westboro Baptist Church. Comeuppance!
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Female 150
Westboro is the most ignorant group I have ever heard of. About time they got their comeuppance.
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Male 503
i know im like 7 pages to late to say this. but cefka u are the stupidest red neck low life trailer trash hill-billy ever. if i saw u in the street i would beat u to death with a gay mans dildo. you have been brainwashed by a church, and there is no saving u now...
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Female 1,264
"being gay is an abomination

although i would never resort to murder to get ride of gay people i mean i may not think what they do is right but still they have the right to live"

What exactly is it they do wrong? I`m sorry, it just seems impossible to me that someone could actually be bothered by a strangers sexual preference.

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Male 541
What has the world come to? people going int the streets actually HATING on gay people... don`t they have something better to do with their sad pathetic lives, like sucking of a tailpipe?

Besides its not like they CHOSE to be gay, its a sexual preferance, just like transsexuals.. people need to get more educated.. and also stop blindly being mislead by the bible, which does not hold all the answers!!! Honestly...

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Female 838
I watched this about 5 years ago. Got to love the Awful Truth! To bad it was cancelled after 2 seasons
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Male 44
i hate westboro for making toddlers sing that crap, so anything of them getting owned is funny to me. and sure, gays may be wierd, but why cant we just leave them the hell alone? do we bother all the convience store running indian people? didnt think so
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Male 1,140
uuummmm i have nothing against gays but seriously this video is on crack for both sides of the argument
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Male 3,619
zomg, my contribution to the arugments...
religius ppl (i mean christians) should start treating christianity as a belief/ a faith and not knowledge.
Knowledge:
I know your going to hell, i will harras, stalk, murder your kind and deny your freedom until you change your mind, then i have saved you, god will like me. oh right... and you too

Belief:
I belive that what you are doing will not get you into heaven, so i hope that you change your mind, but Gods loves all and i will treat you as i treat my parents (you better be trating your parents right) becous we are equals, god created us the way we are for a reason.

zomg, face it, there is no God.
If you tell a Lie many enough times, ppl will belive it. and the greater the lie, the even more will ppl belive it.

why should christianity be the correct answer? many religions whre INVENTED b4 that.

you see... "Man created God in his own image."
Ludwig Feuerbach: (1804-1872; German philosopher, theologia

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Male 438
michaek moore is an ugly annoying drat who needs to stop bitching about america. but gay people are cool (im not gay) and they should be treated normally
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Female 325
cefka, i think you should wait until you have hair on your nuts before you`re allowed to speak again.
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Male 394
Both sides are evil. End of story.
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Male 477
Angilion - That would make a lot of people part spider.
I`m sure some Freudian/Jungian psychologist would say the spider represents certain parts of the human psyche that most people don`t deal with and are thus afraid of. Maybe the whole myth about Arachnia. lol.

Homosex as normal in Sparta as in Athens? Actualy it was MORE common in Sparta because they were a warrior people.

But yes, the term homosexuality has been misused over and over again since it was first used in the 1890s. Originally only used to describe acts, it`s now used as a personal trait.
But what`s wrong with trying to understand human nature by comparing us to animals? We do it all the time. We study apes to learn about ourselves and test on animals to see how something would work on us. Man is simply a highly intelligent animal...but an animal nonetheless.

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kittyloaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
120 Posts Friday, August 01, 2008 7:29:10 AM
God doesnt hate anyone.
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Neither does the Easter Bunny.
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Male 12,365
"Jesus said to love your neighbor. He took in criminals and prostitutes, and showed them compassion.

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Didn`t he MARRY a olden-time hooker himself, as I recall."

Who knows? It`s not like we have any reliable contempory accounts.

Going by the Christian bible, the disciple Mary (heh, that`s going to be controversial) wasn`t stated to be a prostitute. There was more than one woman called Mary. Actually, there weren`t any - Mary wasn`t a name used in Judea 2000 years ago - but that`s the name used around here for them. The Mary who is often thought of as a prostitute wasn`t stated to be one either - at most she was a "fallen woman", which could mean all sorts of things.

After Jesus died, there was a power struggle within Christianity, the first of many. Mary was one of the losers, so the winners badmouthed her.

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Male 12,365
"he thing that scare people the most is the parts of themselves that they don`t understand."

That would make a lot of people part spider.

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Male 12,365
"If only the movie 300 had been more historically accurate."

Off the top of my head, I`d say that the only historically accurate parts of that film were the names of places and people, and maybe not all of them.

Spartans fighting for freedom? What a blivet. Sparta was intensely authoritarian and the whole state was a military camp. Most of the people there were slaves are were routinely slaughtered as a test for each Spartan soldier - would he kill on command?

Although I particularly goggled at Spartans contemptuously dismissing Athenians for homosex, which was as normal in Sparta as it was in Athens.

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Male 12,365
"Homosexuality has been documented in over 1500 other species."

Not in the way it`s currently applied to humans. Some animals of other species have homosexual sex, but it wouldn`t be accurate to say they were homosexual. If you had to classify the animals rather than the sex, you`d have to call them bisexual. The homosex isn`t necessarily how it appears, either - it can be a demonstration of dominance in a hierarchy.

Extrapolating from other animals to humans is a dodgy business. Humans are strange animals, quite significantly different to others.

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Male 12,365
"gay people do choose because if it was atural occurance in nature species would go extinct."

Rubbish. If a large majority of a species was homosexual and the species reproduced sexually, *then* it would probably go extinct. If a small minority of a thriving species is homosexual, it doesn`t slow the reproduction rate to dangerous levels.

Besides, it`s possible for homosexual people to have children anyway - you just need a man and a woman, they don`t have to have sex. Artificial insemination can be done without modern medicine - that`s only there to increase the chance of conception, which would otherwise be the same as with heterosex.

Not to mention the fact that a fair few people who are classed as homosexual could have heterosex too - the idea that people are heterosexual or homosexual is quite recent. In the past, the label was applied to the sex, not to the people.

To sum up: You`re wrong.

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Male 12,365
If you`re referring to god as worshipped by Christians, I`m fairly sure you`d be OK anyway. Ditto for god as worshipped by Jews (same god, some different beliefs). I might be wrong, but I don`t recall anything about homosexuality *between women*, other than in exceptionally bad mistranslations.

The Christian downer on homosexuality between men is on very shaky ground even within the context of their own religion. Between women, it`s not really there - the main passages are definitely male-specific. If you go with just "What did Jesus say about it?", which is a legitimate Christian perspective, there`s nothing against homosexuality.

Even the notorious Leviticus passages are (a) horrendously mistranslated and might not forbid homosexual sex anyway, (b) only apply to men and (c) are part of a whole slew of rules that Christians ignore, so there`s no good religious reason to pick out only that one.

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Female 260
I don`t belive in god :) so I`m not afraid to go to hell. That means I can still date girls :) yay.
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Male 3,431
I don`t like any of them. I`m sick of extremists trying to make me change my mind.
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Male 477
Um. Airsofter....where have you been? Homosexuality has been documented in over 1500 other species. And if everyone on the planet was gay, there`s no way we`d go extinct. People still want kids. it`s why lesbians have each other`s babies and why gay male couples adopt. Most biologists believe that homosexuality is natures way of controling overpopulation in the wild.

Sandwich, awesome quote.

captainpat. Fred started out as a lawyer in the 60`s and 70`s winning BLACK RIGHTS cases in the south. Yeah...he was a civil rights lawyer on the side of good. Then was disbarred, ordained himself a minister and started fighting AGAINST gay civil rights. That`s right, he`s not even a recognized Baptist pastor.
And every day he looks more like that creepy cult pastor from Poltergeist II.

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Male 1,089
fred phelps what did u do?
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Male 1,089
gay people do choose because if it was atural occurance in nature species would go extinct.
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Male 1,365
All the negative energy you formulate and use to judge and ruin others, gathers and awaits to destroy you slowly, with ploddingly painful deliberation, remorseless and with deadly precision. Translation, "Sucks to be you ignorant haters"
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Female 65
Oh man, hate these guys.

I don`t plan on going to the States anytime soon, but if it ever happens and something like that is going on, I would make a sign saying "Thank God for AIDS, otherwise child rape victims in Africa would grow up to be sinners!" or at least ask one of them if they support the suffering of african children who were raped by HIV infected men.

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Male 1,583
o cool, i did some research, and you know that black and white "stop hate" logo? that was created by people in my town cus of fred phelps. well maybe you don`t know it but around hear it`s a common site.
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Male 150
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means." - George Bernard Shaw

i really think that some militia should just take care of the WBC

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Male 1,583
fred phelps should die.
Honestly how came a supposed "man of god" be so hateful?
those dudes came to my town one time cus we had a gay mayor and they went around to every church in the city and screamed outside it. then the mayor walked in and sat down for a mass and every body stood up and clapped for him and all the churches just started ringing all their bells at the same time and the phelps people got pissed and left.
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Male 102
someone needs to grab phelps, pull him into a hot, smelly, unmarked van and **** him up the ***
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Male 1,204
i don`t like any kind of extremist, but wen i think about it, pitting extremists against each other will end the problem. woot
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Female 3
"Oh we didn`t make it to that one. How was the food?"

Fantastic.

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Female 97
Gnome I don`t think it is, actually. I think they`re giving Fred Phelps a taste of his own medicine.
What does Fred Phelps do? He stereotypes people and gets in their face.
1.) The dancing on the bus and making out was perpetuating the stereotype
2.) They got in Fred Phelp`s face.

The guy is nuts, so why not use nuttiness back? Granted, that`s taking the low road, but it makes for good entertainment, which is the business Michael Moore is in. He couldn`t care less about helping gay people or victims of gun violence. He`s a step above (or below) the other pundits out there who is trying to make a buck.
Oh well!

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Male 3,296
hooray for fags
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Female 113
what does that smug son of a bitch think he`s going to accomplish? all he`s doing in this video is perpetuating stereotypes, which does more to help the crazy baptist people than it does to help gay rights.
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Male 1,404
Despite the cause, Michael Moore, your words mean nothing, just like a used blood soaked tampon of a prostitute. Just get the hell out of my face. Hell, just keep your smug, egotistical, self promoting diatribe to yourself. I only have contempt for you. You little drattwat! Yes I think worse of the WBC so go tie yourself to a rock and stand in dry lake durring flood season you so far from God preaching scumbags who just judge and convict others of sin while defaming God.
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Male 4,004
People who act in the name of the lord, sin more than people who don`t give a flying f*ck about what God thinks of their actions.

Religion causes hate.

Time and time again, INNOCENT people are persecuted because of religion... and in the bottom of those bastards little black hearts, they know the entire religion basis, is nothing but bullsh*t.

I hate religion, I hate how people follow it to the word, I hate how people believe it and I hate what religion has done to this world.

Fu*k your religion.

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Male 342
cefka, you`re a bigotted cu.nt - you should be put on a remote island somewhere so that you do not bother the rest of us. you don`t hate them...but you think they are an abomination.....not making your case very well, are you?
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Female 4,225
...Can I PLEASE go to the WBC site and use their own beleifs against them to prove that evolution exists and that we`re all black inside>

Ahem, anyways, Stupid contradictable, coservate WBC.

We doo not prosecute.
GO BACK IN THE CLOSET, FAGS!!!


*Hugs Davy and QZ*

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Female 2
Never mind, I watched the rest of the video.
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Male 466
Its not a crime to be gay... its a crime to [email protected] someone in the ass.
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Female 2
Is it really a crime in 20 states to be gay? That`s crazy! And if it is true which 20?
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Male 466
^well they do... ask one.
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Female 2,228
^ "I have seen that it is not man who is impotent in the struggle against evil, but evil is impotent in the struggle against man. the powerlessness of kindness, of senseless kindness, is the secret of its immortality. It can never be conquered. The more stupid, the more senseless, the more helpless it may seem, the vaster it is. Evil is impotent before it. The prophets, religious teachers, reformers, social and political leaders are impotent before it. This dumb blind love is man`s meaning. Human history is not the battle of good against evil. It is a battle fought by a great evil struggling to crush a small kernal of human kindness. But if what is Human in Human beings has not been destroyed even now, then evil will never conquer.-Vassily Grossman
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Male 466
Gays suck.
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Male 516
"It was clear what I had to do."

That one sentence alone proves that Michael Moore is such a blowhard. God, this man will jump on any cause just to shove his fat face in front of the camera and get some publicity.

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Male 23
I usually hate anything by Michael Moore.... This is no exception.
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Male 251
that really pisses me off.
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Female 2,228
I don`t know Rebelcomx, I kind of saw it like old fashioned sit ins in segregated bars ect. It may indeed be helpful. Granted black people weren`t busting into diners w/ rap music as they pop and locked, but desperate stupidity calls for desperate measures :)
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Male 477
^^And when he does his soul will be added to my collection. LOL
For Halloween I built this awesome looking ghost for my front porch set up. We named it Jerry (Because Jerry Falwell had just died).
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Male 26
Fred Phelps is definitely a whack-job. he needs to die soon.
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Male 477
Piano, he wasn`t trying to do anything for gay rights, just piss off Fred Phelps. The problem is that most people who are already gay-haters will never, no matter what they are told, change their minds. They stick to their guns, and nothing short of Jehovah himself smacking them across the face is gonna do anything. So at this point, it`s not about changing their minds, it`s about making fun of them. just look at this very conversation. nothing any of us can say or do is going to change cefka`s or Prime`s mind about gay people. The arguing IS pointless.
As far as people who hate gays probably being gay themselves....there`s a LOT of psychological support to that. The thing that scare people the most is the parts of themselves that they don`t understand.If you don`t understand it, it scare you, and you always hate what you fear...just ask Yoda.
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Male 26
I think that this is the wrong approach to gay rights. I`m pretty tolerant of gay people, but if anyone is in my face about anything, I`m not going to listen. The loud, obnoxious side of being gay that Michael Moore is celebrating is the thing that a lot of people have a problem with. There are plenty of other ways to get a point across. I don`t think that screaming and yelling is a good way to go about anything, whether it`s gay rights or war-protesters or anything else.
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Male 14,331
Interesting in 12,000 BC the first double ended dildo was made lol.
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Female 511
I <3 gay people - they`re usually pretty fantabulous!

And Moore finally put his extreme leftist views to good use... I`m astonished!

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Male 477
THere were gay people long before there was the judeo-christian god. there will be gay people long after.
Some of the most important cultural changes were made by gay/bi people. It is only in the past 1700 years, (when christians took over rome) that human sexuality has become so taboo. Before them, men AND gods practiced same sex love. If only the movie 300 had been more historically accurate. Meet the Spartans was closer, it was REALLY gay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of...
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Female 9
moore is as bad as the WB Church.. they both lie, and create horrible situations that we all have to live in. drat `em all.. death to MM, and burn the church
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Male 466
Idiot. You think god gives two [email protected] about you or anyone else? Gods going to save you but let a [email protected] child die of starvation? Give me a [email protected] break. You should die just like every other [email protected] bible thumping idiot in the world. The rest of us would be alot better off without you.
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Male 1,220
god doesn`t hate me!
so nyah!
and you know why?
because all the songs i sang in sunday school say so, that`s why!
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Male 466
God hates all of us.
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Male 466
Everybody is gay to some extent
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Female 519
Or blasphemous...:|!
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Female 519
Sodomobile <33

Because a life choice is blasephmous, amirite? ;)

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Female 850
Wait. wait. wait. If god created ALL of us. ALL the people, black, white, tan, then he created the gay and the other people that others are obsessed with hating. Yay god.
:-/
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Male 4,680
I can never understand how a "free country" can persecute gays in such a way. Well done Moore!
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Male 281
Coming next summer...

It`s more Moore, like you`ve never seen him before.

Get your Sodomobiles ready, because in theaters near you...

Moore...

Is...

Pure...

AWESOME.

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Female 1,407
LOL, Michael Moore is full of win on that one!
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Male 70
i hate Michael Moore, but this is pure awesome
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Male 281
@ dragonshadoz, pariahnola, etc: Burton`s not high, he`s just stupid. Every day in every thread ever, he yoinks out his fave thesaurus to compensate for his stupidity by baffling you with bullsh*t. Then, he waxes moronic on matters completely, utterly irrelevant to the topic, interspersed with "ha" and "yeaaaah" like Lil Jon if Lil Jon was paralyzed from the neck up.

The reason for his existence seems to be to convince purple names on the Internet that he has a brain. Ironically, he just comes off as what he is: a neanderthal waving around a thesaurus, saying, "Look at me, mom!" If you want him and his thesaurus to go away and stop sh*tting up i-a-b threads, ignore him. If you don`t, he`ll emerge from under his bridge a raging pile of insecurity issues.

@ Michael Moore vs. Westboro Baptist Church: Flawless victory.

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Male 147
Two sides of the same story.
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Male 151
see this is what is needed, America was made based on equality, we need to stop persecution.

and if a god exists i would think he loves all beings equally.

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Male 51
To complete that last sentence, I meant to say "people irritate me".
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Male 51
I really hate how those people pervert the Bible to fulfill their own perverted agenda. Not to get all preachy on you guys, but if they had bothered to check out the context of the verses they posted on their signs, they`d see what it was really talking about.

Por ejemplo, one sign says Psalm 2:4, which is "The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them." They took this to mean that everytime a gay person dies, God laughs. If they bothered to look at the context, they`d see that God is laughing at the people in verse 2, which says: "The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One."

I try to be a Christian, and I`m not very good at it. But one thing I know is that anyone who claims to be a Christian would accept the fact that every single person is in the same boat, and that they have no right telling people that because they live a certain way that they`re going to hell. People ir

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Male 366
What made me really mad was seeing kids holding up these hate signs, like they are being brainwashed into believing this hate that is still being followed word for word by people who believe EVERYTHING in the Bible is true.

Guess what, Jesus did not believe in hating one another and taught love and compassion. It is what he taught that these hateful WBC idiots and homosexual haters should follow. Not these passages about hating every person who isn`t exactly how they are.

It is hate that leads our country astray and if these people who claim to be Christian believed what CHRIST said, then they would learn to care for themselves and respect others and let those who don`t follow exactly what they believe, live their lives in peace.

Big thumbs up to Michael Moore and all the people he brought with him on the bus. He let these homosexual hating monsters know that you should treat people that are different than you as human beings, and stop the hating.

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Male 43
What I really enjoy about the whole religious argument is that:

1. Whatever God does is just
2. God is perfect
3. God created us all

So either he drated up with the gays, which would kinda dent his credibility as god, or the gay bashers are going against his will. Now, if you`re religious, who do you think would drat up? The supreme God of all things? or some redneck idiots with banners.

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Male 213
no, he didnt marry mary. There was a movie that came out in which he did, lol. Actually a few movies that happened.
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kittyloaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
117 Posts Friday, August 01, 2008 7:29:50 AM
Jesus said to love your neighbor. He took in criminals and prostitutes, and showed them compassion.

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Didn`t he MARRY a olden-time hooker himself, as I recall.

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Male 213
Jesus said to love your neighbor. He took in criminals and prostitutes, and showed them compassion.
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Male 3
I hate Michael Moore, but this was great. How are those Westboro people still alive? I would figure someone would have accidentally ran them over while they were protesting. Or maybe burned their houses down. I can tell you one thing, if they showed up anywhere around here with that bullpoo, heads would fly.
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Male 213
God doesnt hate anyone.
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Female 850
If it does not affect my well being directly, I am fine with it.
Gay
Straight
What ever, IDK, as long as it does not negativly affect my life.
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Male 44
I can`t decide who the biggest douchebag is, Moore or WBC
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Female 5,139
"I hate people who hate gays.

I love gay people, wish I had a gay best friend that rode on rollarskates.

I`d be complete hahaha

xD"

you can borrow mine XD

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Male 381
FOR FCUK SAKE!!!

Theres people dieing, starving and living is squalor all over the world and all people seem to care about is what an ancient book of fables say`s you should or shouldn`t do.

LIVE AND LET FCUKING LIVE

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Male 4,014
RESPECT, a noble crusade
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Male 3,369
I`m intollerant of intollerance!

I sometimes have to protest against myself!

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Female 1,211
"Lol, people who hates gay people are probably fags themselves."

Interesting theory.
Anyway, this movie`s AWESOME!

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Male 395
this is well old. still relevant
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Male 314
The retards in the video against "fags" meh, they obvious are dumb.

But what surprises me more are the amount of people replying to this who are under 17 saying that they hate fags etc and quoting stuff from the Bible... I see Christianity is still brainwashing people in the Southern states of USA.

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Female 357
You go gays. I say you can dance half naked anywhere you want!
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Female 2,258
Absolutely brilliant! Huge groups of homosexuals should just follow around the Westboro Baptist Church during everyday activities and when they go out picketing.
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Male 118
Is this all there is, I want moar sodomy.
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Male 308
"When Fred dies, I think we should all go and harrass the WBC at his funeral."

AGREED!!!

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Male 308
wow...something m. moore did that I liked...
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Female 128
I hate people who hate gays.

I love gay people, wish I had a gay best friend that rode on rollarskates.

I`d be complete hahaha

xD

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Male 81
We already tried making a city for all the gays. It`s called San Francisco.

I really don`t understand why they are so concerned about how other people live their lives. Why do they care what two guys 100 miles away are doing in their bedroom? It`s not affecting them.

Oh, and if people like phelps are going to heaven, then I`m gonna go to a gay bar tonight, cause I`d rather hang out with gays than with douches like phelps for eternity!!

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Female 109
When Fred dies, I think we should all go and harrass the WBC at his funeral.
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Male 288
Michael Moore RULES!!!!!
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Female 486
I am so very tired of the Westboro Baptists and this was great to see, watching them getting harassed for once.
I would like to say that they give Christians a bad name. I`m a Christian and I have lots of gay friends, and I don`t judge them. There`s no reason to.
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Male 369
You can tell all them religious fanatics, I`m on a one way trip to dick city and I love it.

I`m a fag and a catholic, I`m awesome :)

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Female 173
This is the most awesome thing I have ever seen. I didn`t like Michael Moore before, but now I love him. :D
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Male 649
burton i have no idea what you are talking about cause that left me a little confused but i am not hating on anyone or anything people have beliefs and that is great. i am sure it must be a great feeling to believe in something so grand but that is also not saying that i don`t believe in god cause i do in fact i just don`t believe that god cares
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Male 649
ah the opinion that gays can`t carry on our race cause they can not reproduce well here is a bubble burster for all of you that think that. in about 10 years or so science will profect a prosedure that it is currently working on which is to take a mans cells and turn it into and a femails egg i think it is something to do with bone marrow....any way it can be done with the opposit as well hence eventualy gays can and will be able to produce viable offspring that is geneticly their own
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Female 4,028
Burton... are you high or something?
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Male 7,933
I do question it. Often. Im still a Catholic, the questioning only reassures me if anything
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Male 815
yeaah man well haha i mean poo i`m not saying that`s my lil cup of tea either, just that people are gonna and poo they should, do whatever is there thang long as it doesn`t like... you know stomp on people and poo... long as they`re not molesting baby koala bears... it`s what ever

and yeaaah man i mean does not doesnt but i think you picked up on that poo so yeaaaah... that`s what`s up

basically i was just saying, there are real thick headed people on both sides of poo who have a "holier then thou" mindset... ha and they aren`t seein` their both doing the same poo haha

but momma said that`s all i gotta say about that

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Male 649
now did i say that nope not at all all i said was when you grow up a bit you will see the world is not so cut and dry there are plenty of people that still blindly follow the church. thats not really saying there is anything wrong with them wanting to believe insomething but at some point you will start to question things just like everyone at some point does if they haven`t yet then they will
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Female 4,028
And let`s not forget the option of adoption and stuff. Oooh, those evil fags, taking care of children without homes! >-(
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Male 740
was someone actually complaining that being gay isnt right because they dont produce kids to "carry on our race?"

not every person needs to reproduce. there`s 4 billion plus people on this planet.

plus, a gay couple not producing a child can be cancelled out by a huge christian family of 15 kids. so no big deal

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Male 777
Referring to a post on the previous page, I understand the conditions that the uterus goes through and understand the concept, but how does that relate to animal homosexuality, of which there is plenty. Also, I`ve only heard that theory applied to boys, so how does it tie in to lesbians. Genetics just seems to make more sense to me.
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GosuPaul
Male, 13-17, Western US
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[ Delete Post ] Friday, August 01, 2008 12:13:43 AM
Hey guess what. You`re all wasting time.
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Its IAB what do you expect, we would be discussing the flaws of the Born-Oppenheimer approximation?

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Female 4,028
[quote]Hey guess what. You`re all wasting time.[/quote] It will never end...
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Male 815
ha and no it`s not all cut and dry... poo i mean thinking that the very concept of belief in religion or anything is a pretty cut and dry view...
ha the truth is both sides of this whole god-nogod crap doesn`t require blind faith... and my opinion on poo is it`s all fine and dandy... both give the appearance of semi-metaphycial enlightenment... which is awesome ha...

just till that hatin` starts, whether it`s against "homos" or godlovers ha

but yeah... gotta go beer

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Male 516
Hey guess what. You`re all wasting time.
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Male 7,933
pariahnola, because obviously people that are religious are all under 18?


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Male 15
So as a heathen my word probably means bumpkis to half of you (i`ve been waiting to use that) but it`s quite rewarding to make out with your boyfriend in front of protesters... they just go crazy... well that makes one life experience shared for the day so i can check that off of my list night ya`ll
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Male 815
primetime speaks the gospel, first i`m pretty sure it was the council of nicaea(sp?) that decided what was godlike and what wasn`t ha it was pretty much because the constantine guy got all converted... and since he was an emperor he felt like he should lay down what`s close to godlyness and what wasn`t...

but it wasn`t till the council of trent, which was about fifteen hundred years after heyzeus and three thousand or so after old t-ment that the rcc and eastern orthodox decide what best to serve the souls (and brain haha) of the christian faithful... but a large majority of what was picked and what wasn`t was based on politics, such as, if you`re in servitude rising against your master would make you a traitor, which would make you end up in the ninth circle of hell, which let`s face it, nobody wants to end up there...

but yeah, basically just don`t hate the gays ha

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Male 649
trust me kid when you actualy grow up a bit and get into the real world you will realize that its not all so cut and dry
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Male 649
ha to think that is to have your ass hurt cause you are full of s hit religeion is all about polatics and to think it was which one was devinly inspierd well that just crap. the real truth is they put the stories in it that sound better to the churches own messege and to further the power it had. things were left out cause the stories set the wrong example thjat the church wanted. and to blinly follow what ther church say is well foolish
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Male 7,933
Catbarf, how many times must I keep reminding people, when jesus said "Til heaven and earth pass away" that was his death, we dont follow all of the old testament anymore.


pariahnola
Male, 18-29, Southern US
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[ Delete Post ] Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:49:28 PM
there is a show on the history channel called banned from the bible one and two talks about a lot of things that were left out. and you can research the stuff too but it is all real things
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Yes many books were left out. They had to decide which one was divinely inspired and which was not

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Male 649
all right yellow squar you got work in 5 hours i get off of work in 5 hours any way have fun at work
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Male 649
there is a show on the history channel called banned from the bible one and two talks about a lot of things that were left out. and you can research the stuff too but it is all real things
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Female 1,545
Anyway...I work in 5 hours and have not slept yet, so goodnight to you all. :)
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Female 1,545
hahahaha spelling is the worst.

It is interesting that you mention there are other versions of the Bible. I did know that there were many books left out of the Bible when it was pieced together, but I didn`t know what they said.

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Female 4,028
Haha! That was f-cking amazing! How do they like being followed? Heh. I`d so participate in that.
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Male 86
Whenever that drattard Fred Phelps pisses me off, i immediatly find comfort in the fact that he will be dead in a few years...hell, maybe even a matter of months...unfortunatly the same can`t be said for the rest of the church.
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Male 649
the bible is ment to inspire not to be taken as fact
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Male 649
eh screw it i could care less what people try to rip a new one of i have my opinions just like everyone else but here is the thing i didn`t alleg s hit there are actualy documents that have been found over the years that have said these things. and remeber the bible both ot and nt were written well after the alleged events took place
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Male 649
true yellowsquare it would be a shame if that happend lol. the brightest ideas seem to crop up from these hollow walls figuritivly speaking of cours. i`m just bored as hell right now and this is keeping me entertained while i am at work
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Male 108
Crap! Michal Moore stole my idea. Oh well. Well done, sir.
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Male 7,933
"There are no passages in the New Testament that condemn homosexuality."

1:26-27 (TNIV), Paul writes

Because of this [idolatry], God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


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Female 1,545
Haha wow, pariahnola...did you just allege that Jesus may have been gay??

You, sir, are one brave dude. The fundies are going to find this comment and rip you a new one in the morning.

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Male 1,455
"if ever one was a gay person than our race would die out"

If everyone was a male then our race would die out. Whoopde-fricking-do.

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Male 649
adam had a wife befor eve jesus was more belevalent in his child hood, solomon built his temple with the help of demons, jesus may or maynot have had relations with other men and so on and so fourth
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Male 1,455
"i say all the gays should move to an island in the middle of the ocean and stop bothering us with their stupid crap"

Gays only need to `bother` you because they are persecuted.

As for bothering you with their lifestyle- I could say that people wearing red hats bothers me. Oh well, it`s not my place to decide how others dress.

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Female 1,545
And pariahnola, please. IAB posts are literary gold. Aristotle, Shakespeare, and Thoreau all cry in their graves because they know that if the world finds these comment boards, their works will go down the tube.
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Male 533
Everyone`s a LITTLE gay. Just ask Ron White.
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Male 649
we3ll since we are now on the ot and nt lets examin that . do you know how many things were left out of the bible because it didn`t fit the church image of how they saw the world? many things were left out that may or may not shock you
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Male 1,455
It`s fairly certain that homosexuality is caused by conditions in the uterus. Specifically, the more children a mother has had, the more of a resistance she builds up to certain hormones in the child`s body. The inhibition of these chemicals can cause the child to have differing gender attractions.

It`s not choice, and it`s not all genetic, and persecution is just wrong.

Now, one more thought:

There are no passages in the New Testament that condemn homosexuality.

Christians, whether you like it or not, there are passages in the NT that require you to observe the OT, but that`s beside the point.

Basically, to condemn homosexuals, one must follow the OT. This also mandates killing of children who disrespect parents, and all the inhabitants of a town if one person doesn`t believe.

Hypocrisy.

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Male 649
eventualy some one is going to come along and put them out of their hatefull misery
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Female 1,545
While I agree, protesting the WBC only fans the flames, I think there are some groups that are legit.

Such as the Victory Riders... (I think that`s their name? The motorcycle group that follows the WBC and revv their motorcycles so the WBC can`t be heard)

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Male 649
like i said reading the posts and they aren`t really being protested anymore more like they get hunted down when ever they are out protesting and hate mongering
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Male 7,933
not the post, just protesting them
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Male 649
it gives them more attention if they read posts on iab but somehow i doubt they come here and read this crap
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Male 649
yellowsquare thanks for the correct spelling of columbine. my spelling sucks so thanks
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Male 7,933
Does anyone realize that the Westboro baptist Church is pretty small. This just gives them more attention
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Male 90
Yay for equal rights
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Female 1,545
Ooh I forgot Michael Moore did Bowling for Columbine...
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Female 1,545
Not to be a fact Nazi, snoopdawgg, but they haven`t exactly proven that genetics is the sole contributor yet. They think that both genetics and in-uterus conditions can affect sexual orientation.

Plus don`t forget there could be the environment in which the child was raised.

It`s still kind of up in the air.

But what IS known is that homosexuals do not choose to be that way...I agree there :)

<done being fact Nazi>

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Male 649
he wasn`t really a no namer just not as big as now. he made many films before 911. anyone remember bowling for colimbine?
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Male 480
retards... its already proven with genetics that homosexuality is a genetic mutation

its not like they chose to be gay

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Female 416
I love it when people make the westboro baptist church look more rediculous than it already is.
I mean, they`re only in it for attention, why not make it so every one can enjoy watching them?

Lol, I love how Fred Phelps ran away like he was gonna catch a desease just from being near them.

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Male 649
i am one with god i have even adopted his way of thinking then.....which is i don`t give a f cuk....just like god
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Female 1,545
Uh ohs. It`s an optical illusion, mylostdog...

Maybe you should sleep now?? Isn`t it kinda late out on the east coast?

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Female 1,545
I think this was made before 9/11 (and before Michael Moore`s Fahrenheit 911), handeman77, so he probably was a no-namer at this point in his life.
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Female 471
yellowsquare, your first yellow square looks orange above your other two.. its screwing with my brain B-|
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Male 240
1. Not M. Moore... if it was M Moore there would have been press.
2. Who care`s?
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Male 649
romboy you gotta remember this footage is almost 10 years old
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Male 815
meh but once you start saying that He "over rode many of the earlier laws", that opens up the possibility that there is divine interpretation for God`s word in the context of the each new society`s definition of what being one with god truly is...
And even more is, if we are created in God`s image, and we have changed SO so SO much since moses took a little hike up on a hill, if we`ve changed our perception of what is acceptable and what is deviant, and we`re in god`s image, doesn`t that mean that god should be able to change HIS perception of things like slavery, polygamy(sp?) and homosexuality... i mean ha if you`re really believe that kinda stuff you at least have to open your mind that there could be more to something as profound as an all-knowing all-seeing whitebearded dude, more then what you, me, or anyone else for that matter could possibly understand...
meh ramble,it`s not really my cup of tea, i just get angry that people can rationalize so much hate with.. m
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Male 221
I usually hate Michael Moore but I liked him in this one. What I do find interesting is that he claims sodomy is illegal in Massachusetts, yet we`ve allowed gay marriage here, and many gays/lesbians come here to get married
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Male 649
well....that was info i didn`t know and was not mentioned in the video. thanks for the help buddy
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Male 287
@pariahnola...wanna whine some more? nobody made you watch the video.

Pretty entertaining...though pointless on both sides. Nobody is going to change anybody`s mind on the matter. Waste of time and resources.

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Female 1,545
Thus making the title of the link completely relevant. :)
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Female 1,545
Fred Phelps, the guy Michael Moore was interviewing, is the founder and leader of the Westboro Baptist Church.
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Male 649
also i remeber seeing this footage when it actualy came out in 99-00. this is nothing new and i am still bored
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Male 649
no signs no banners no one even claiming to be from westbro baptist church. just cause you see old footage of hate mongers you shouldn`t automaticly assume that its westbro. i mean come on! i don`t even remember hearing about that church until after the freaking war started.
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Male 649
i see nothing in this video that has anything to do with westbro? the caption for the video is wrong
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Female 1,545
I`m not a fan of Michael Moore, but this video makes me unreasonably happy.
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Female 1,545
lol rasputinxxx!!!!

Were I ever to meet a member of WBC, this is what I would say: "You are no better than any single person on this earth. Who are you to judge and who are you to condemn? Is that not "god`s" power alone?

Worry about your own salvation and your own judgment. For, in the end, you won`t convert people, you won`t save people, and you won`t spread god`s word. You spread hate and chaos and make people turn from Christ`s name.

When you (illegitimately) condemn people to hell and call them filth of the earth, they don`t want to be saved by you.

I am sick to death of Fred Phelps and his ludicrious, unintelligent, and senile ravings.

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Male 649
this old as f uck mathew shepard died years ago
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Male 1,557
He said it looked like Phelps had gone for good... well this vid was like 9 years ago, so I think not, sadly.

I don`t agree with being overly gay and kissing in public and stuff like they were doing,GENERALLY, but in this situation it was the extreme opposite of the extreme methods the WBC were using.

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Female 15,763
Good god. I kind of hate Moore. I`m more left sided than right sided, but he takes things out of context, uses propaganda, and refuses to acknowledge the other perspective! Sodomy laws often are paired with oral sex laws, but he didn`t mention that, now did he?

Bah. I just get frustrated at the extremists.

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Male 1,002
I am also of the opinion that Moore is usually a giant pile of genital warts wearing a hat, but that this was a rare example of his obnoxious powers being put to good use.

P.S. stop responding to cefka. cefka is a troll and anyone who knows anything about the intrawebs knows that you DON`T RESPOND TO TROLLS!!

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Male 904
that reverned guy is harsh...
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Female 458
There are laws against anal sex? Uh... hm. Well, I`d imagine some heterosexual couples would be in trouble as well.
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Male 128
and God said "Let there be fannybandits" and there were fannybandits
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Male 2,592
if he was perfect, why wasn`t it all perfect in the first place?
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Female 471
sorry i keep posting, i keep pausing it and making comments as i watch. anyway.

oh my god these poor families.. they`re grieving over their dead spouse/child/etc and have to deal with these nutjobs.. and god bless them but then there are also the anti-westboro groups there too (free riders, i think?) its horrible that some people cannot lay their loved ones to rest in peace, that some funerals of soldiers/AIDS victims have become a venue to voice opinions

and the children in this holding the signs makes me want to cry, they don`t know any better because they were raised to believe things like this. this is all so horrible.

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Male 2,592
gnight, cefka, we`ll definately see you again
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Female 2,228
Nice try.
Jesus get out of jail free card notwithstandiong,
Why is that one so important and none of the others are???
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Male 2,592
cefka, why would god *need* to over write his own laws?
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Male 140
I don`t like Michael Moore, but I do love his ability to piss people off.
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Female 2,228
*Hugs Nidonemo back* So true, so true...
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Male 2,592
/agree w/ moosekid
People don`t have the right to force their ideas on other people
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Male 9,305
*hugs* QZ. :3

But don`t waste time on him, he`s already lost. His mind a fitful and pitiful wasteland of propaganda and religious extremist filth. Best to leave him in his own lonely shadows where the walls can tell him how much he really matters.

A closed mind, glued with ego, will not open.

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Male 348
Also the whole Religious argument is stupid, what if the gay guy wasn`t Christian? Why would they care what the Bible says about them?
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Male 348
I am straight, but I would have gay sex in front of Fred Phelps :) God hates INTOLERANCE :)
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Female 2,228
Leo has joined the partay I see. Oh well, I love the sound of sabre rattling anyway...
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Male 8,300
I`m not gonna touch the "is it right or not to the gay" argument with a barge-pole, but the Reverend, however intolerant and bigoted, is actually correct in his Bible references. There is a modern disease in Christianity which preaches that God loves everyone, we can all be saved, etc. It`s not true, it never was. Throughout the Old Testament God ordered the genocide of various people, and categorically stated that there were those He hated and those He loved. Every mention of homosexuality in the Bible is in reference to the person going to Hell for their actions. I`m not saying I agree with it, but hey, I`m not God - He wrote His own rules. The Bible says gays go to Hell to burn forever, that much is fact. I think the Rev should do a few better things with his time though.
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Female 471
I’m 100% for gay rights but I think that provoking people like this doesn’t help in the fight towards acceptance :/
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Female 2,228
Let us name other things that are abominations to your god: children who strike or curse a parent are to be executed Ex 21:21 Menstruating women are impure and all they touch is impure Lev. 15 19-32 And men have the right to sell their daughters into sexual slavery Ex 21 7-11
Give it up fundie, you lose
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Male 2,592
@cefka
Actually, queenZira has a pretty good record around here
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Female 471
"they`re not being persecuted in anyway."
...
"GET OUTTA HERE YOOOUU FFAAAGGG"

these ppl make me sick -_- homophobes, that is.

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Female 2,228
So F3ck em
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Male 2,592
"evolutionarily defective"
I don`t hate gay`s at all. In fact, I have a bigger problem with people that do. Why can`t we all just live our lives and not give a sh*t about some else. Or, better yet, take them as they are. The one`s that I`ve met have all been good people.
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Female 28
I usually don`t like Michael Moore, but this was pretty good. Very funny.
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Female 2,228
I wouldn`t worry about it dingbat
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Female 2,228
We don`t have a right to be straight, we can make babies in test tubes. OH and if roughly 2 percent of the pop. is gay humanity will not go extinct anytime soon.
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Male 2,796
er... watching
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Male 2,796
As an independant that leans more toward Republican views I usually hate anything that fat screwball puts out... but this!.... this was awesome. Good job Moore... you finally made something worth wacthing.
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Female 2,228
Yes, cefka and we straights have no right to be straight. After all it is just a disgusting habit we could all stop at the drop of a hat.
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Male 75
wbc must be brought down
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Male 2,372
Let`s face it. WBC is a pretty easy target... :-P
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Female 2,228
Yeah, this is a little old,`99 I`d say, but I do love to see that walking corpse phelps get neutered! That NEVER gets old.
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Female 156
nice*
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Female 156
grr.
to be completly honest, i get so shocked when i see things like this, and people actually doing this things like this. Wouldn`t it be nick if everyone stopped being so concerned about what people look like and are banging, and started being concerned about things that mattered?

I think be and my girlfriend are going to have to get our selves some guns.

shoot the gay haters! PEW! PEW!

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Male 9,305
And extremists are why NO ONE can have nice things.

Trust, Acceptance, Dignity, all lost. Gone. GONE!

BEHAVE YOURSELVES! JUST BEHAVE YOURSELVES! STOP SHAMING THE REST OF US WHO ACTUALLY THINK WITH OUR MINDS!

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Male 563
this is quite old to be honest, but great nonetheless.
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Male 2,592
I usually hate michael moore. I think he gives liberals a bad name, for the most part. However, if he wants to go after WBC, he`s finally found a way to pit extreme vs. extreme in a good way.
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Male 2
Lol, people who hates gay people are probably fags themselves.
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Male 1,853
SWEET! sodomy is legal in Indiana! i dont have to worry anymore!

/fake

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Male 543
I <3 GAY PEOPLE!
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Male 564
"they`re not being persecuted in any way."
"GO HOMMEEEEE"
Nice those two clips are together.
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Male 26
Link: Michael Moore Vs. Westboro Baptist Church [Rate Link] - Michael Moore joins with a group of gays to follow around the Westboro Baptist Church. Comeuppance!
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