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Date: 07/14/08 03:59 PM

95 Responses to Japan`s Water Powered Smart Car

  1. Profile photo of Matwix_2004
    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 3:55 pm
    Link: Japan`s Water Powered Smart Car - It has a generator that extracts hydrogen from water that releases electrons that produce electric power to run the car.
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    lukeyLUK3 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    i see u listened to the_maddog from that one 6 retarted gas schemes link
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    lukeyLUK3 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    i mean look in the comments
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:03 pm
    "Revolutionary" but, unfortunately, it will never be mass marketed.
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    bugpw Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:03 pm
    It`s not very family let alone 3 people friendly.
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    Ghostofme16 Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    The government wont allow it to be mass marketed...

    Think about the amount of MONEY people make on selling you gas...

    Think about it if all you have to do is get some water to go 80 miles...
    you dont even have to pay for that water!
    Rain, ponds, lakes, rivers ETC....

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    mooogandi Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:07 pm
    does that mean it can run on piss?
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    JohnnyTheCow Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:09 pm
    im sorry, but was that guy`s name chin pecks?
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    lukeyLUK3 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:09 pm
    ^^ if it can off ocean water ( which has salt) it can run off piss cause piss has some salt in it
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    RoyCassanova Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:09 pm
    Ye mooogandi, thats exactly what it means.
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:10 pm
    I`m sure it has like three miles a gallon.
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    Dragoliz Female 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:11 pm
    LOL looks to me like... Water4gas!
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:17 pm
    meh, the urea might damage the metal, seeing it`s quite a bit corrosive. i dun think we want to test it out on our brand new car :P
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    Aramil Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    I loled at the naysayers. What, do you think you`re going to be able to drive around your gas-powered sedans and SUVs forever? Don`t be stupid.

    As for the government getting involved. Last time I checked, the US had a capitalist economy. Newsflash: The government doesn`t get to decide what gets marketed here (within reason, of course).

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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:20 pm
    LoofahBoy - Watch the video.
  16. Profile photo of FixTheYellow
    FixTheYellow Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    I love this idea... Major step.
    Can`t wait `til they`re mass-produced...
    I want one. ^^
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    woomanfoo Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    Wow...not very convenient. You can travel at 80 kph (or about 50 mph) for only an hour before having to stop and pour more water in your car. Kind of a step up from cars with solar panels on them that go 15 mph, but still a huge step down for commuters who already travel an hour or so to get to work with normal speeds.
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    FixTheYellow Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:30 pm
    Mih. Woomanfoo, you`ve got a point... But it`s probably pretty convenient if you`ve just got to run to the store or you`re going on a roadtrip just-for-fun (which, VERY few people do anymore since gas prices have gone up).

    I`m sure mods will be made for it so it`ll seat more people and be more powerful, eventually... but for now, it`s a great idea that can be built upon. :]

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    dss6290 Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    wow thats rlly intelligent, even better than the hydrogen fuel cell since its not explosive and water is easier to come about rather than hydrogen! i wonder how much the cars will b
  20. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:34 pm
    yeah, a LOT of gas is spent going to the grocery store, because a lot of gas is used while accelerating from a complete stop.

    it takes more energy to move something from a complete stop then it is to continue moving something... so yeah

    but the problem is, that a lot of gasoline is used by things like airlines and trucks and watnot, which requires much more torque and power then what i suspect these engines can provide. and diesel is still pretty fuel efficient... much more then octane from wat i hear

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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:39 pm
    woomanfoo - thats on one liter of water.
    No need to stop and refill if you Fill your gas tank with water, it will be just about the same thing.
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    DVLDRVR666 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:46 pm
    1 litre isnt a lot...all you need is like a milk jug of water and you`re good for a few hours....damn i need one of theses
  23. Profile photo of woomanfoo
    woomanfoo Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:46 pm
    Ahah. Thanks for pointing that out.
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:54 pm
    It uses electricity to extract the hydrogen. So, it is electricity that really powers the car. Saying that it`s powered by water is like saying cars are powered by gas stations.
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    matt1119 Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:54 pm
    i have been waiting for someone to do this for ages!! its such an obvious idea...i wish i`d patented it now :(
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    jerc Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:59 pm
    i seriously want one im broke as hell and this would be a great solution to our oil problems
    oil companies will prolly try something to stop it
    damn it
  27. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 4:59 pm
    I`m surprised that Reuters fell for that.

    The explanation is ludicrous. The reporter is claiming that a small box in the back can economically generate electricity directly from water (regardless of what else is in the water).

    If some brilliant inventor managed to create something so stunningly radical, then miniaturise it, then make it rugged enough for rough use...no, it`s not plausible at all. But if it did happen, why on earth would they be hoping to go into partnership with a car company? Especially in Japan, of all places? A country that is extremely dependent on buying energy from outside?

    This company has claimed to have created a small, rugged device that creates a very large amount of electricity from small amounts of highly impure water, like seawater straight from the sea. The Japanese government would buy that in an instant - ultra-cheap no-emission power stations using something an island nation has a vast supply of.

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    duckinfuh Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    80km per liter.
    or about 200mpg for us non-metric users.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    Correct me if I`m wrong because I just heard this in passing conversation, but isn`t it like, HORRIBLE on the environment to make the... whatever turns the water into a fuel? Like, the factory that makes those uses nuclear technology or something, and nothing grows within a 5 mile radius...

    Is this all some liberal conspiracy? Has anyone else heard of it?

  30. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm
    The UK government has just announced a one hundred billion pound project to build marginally effective and enviromentally damaging "green" power stations. That`s US$200,000,000,000. This invention is supposedly far superior, especially for the UK (an island nation with a very high rainfall - water is something we have a lot of). If it worked, the UK government would make the inventor the richest person in the world. On top of the money from Japan and most countries in the world. It would probably save the USA a trillion dollars a yesr - who thinks it couldn`t be sold there for half a trillion?

    Or we could go for domestic generation - forget electricity bills, just have a couple of these boxes in your house instead of a connection to the electricity grid. Come to think of it, one would be plenty. Anything that can generate enough electricity to power a very unaerodynamic car at 50mph can provide much more than a household uses.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:14 pm
    Think about that for a mo - all the electricity you could want, and more, and no electricity bills. How much would you pay for that? You and a billion others. But the inventor needs to try to get a car company interested. Bull.
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    DHise Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:25 pm
    Amazing. I want it.
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    wat i`m confused by is how this follows the basic laws of chemistry/thermodynamics.

    they don`t explain it at all

    and stripping electrons will cause unwanted effects, and WILL waste all the water... or if it turns it into hydrogen and oxygen... that requires electricity. because turning hydrogen and oxygen releases energy, it would take the same amount to turn it back into... ahhh head hurts D:

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    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:08 pm
    I`m really confused on the chemistry processes here like caboose.

    I fail to see how a teeny little box can do something so powerful as to strip electrons. ...I`ve only been learning chemistry for three years, but to my knowledge, this doesn`t make sense.

    I emailed my chemistry professor. Maybe he`ll clear things up :)

  35. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:14 pm
    Maybe they`re claiming it`s a water hydrogen fuel cell. Stage one uses a chemical reaction to split water (electricity isn`t needed to do so, it`s just the most effective way with currently technology) and stage two is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell.

    The change is far too radical, though. From non-existence to something that small is too much to swallow. A fuel cell stack that could power a car is much bigger than that and the chemical water-splitter would be completely new. I have found a patent application from Samsung for one, but they`re talking about powering a mobile phone for 10 hours with it and of course you need to replace the catalyst that splits the water as well as the water itself.

    No, I still think it`s bull.

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:20 pm
    I love how people just point out how impractical this car is. It`s called a prototype. If people listened to your criticisms of early computers and stopped improving them, those wouldn`t have caught on either. Then there`d be no i-a-b and we`d have to, gasp, read books.
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    CaptainPat Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:22 pm
    So theres this car, that runs on water, but the government doesn`t want us to know about it man.
    And, it runs on water!
  38. Profile photo of FixTheYellow
    FixTheYellow Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    I agree with astrihaze.

    It would be cool to see how it worked, though... Now my curiosity is peaked.

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:34 pm
    I flat-out call bullsh*t on this one. What powers the generator?

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    mrpopenfresh Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 6:46 pm
    So it`s an electric car?
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    ecpkngt Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 7:02 pm
    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/...
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    ecpkngt Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 7:02 pm
    ^^ Clicky
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    NowPleaseRea Male 70 & Over
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    July 14, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    What a lousy report. Actually leading viewer to believe the car ran on water. Reuters no less!
    The generators electricity splits the water into Hydrogen and O2 (electrolysis) then the hydrogen powers the car. There is no free lunch.
    You have to use more electrical energy than is released from the hydrogen due to energy consumed in the generator. Its just trading one form of energy for another.
    I think that use of solar panels or tidal wind energy to make hydrogen would be a useful thing cuz a pure electric car needs lots of heavy batteries whereas hydrogen can sit in one compressed tank in the car.
    But again a lousy news report. Reuters should not mislead the viewer like that - look at all the comments on this site that actually think that the car runs on water only
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    Axelripper Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 7:15 pm
    yea... this is a really bad report... now that i see that a catalyst could work, it makes sense... i thought that they were talking perpetual motion with excess to power the car, like the power made by the fuel cell/ generator being used to split the water atoms and run the car... so the catalyst explanation works better, but it still just dont work
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    aBISS Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 8:19 pm
    lol, i love how the British female narrator specifically mentioned tea as a source.
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    mizzou Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 8:49 pm
    If something seems too good to be true...
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    Tdogg111 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:24 pm
    "Daddy, i have to go pee pee!"

    "Good, we were almost out of gas."

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    Chrisern Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:26 pm
    This is the future.
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    Tdogg111 Male 13-17
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:32 pm
    No way that they could have this kind of technology, yet governments havent snatched it up or this guy isnt becoming a billionare.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:37 pm
    I`ll believe it when I see it.
  51. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:41 pm
    It`s as amazing as selling the Eiffel Tower. That con has been done at least twice. Wanna buy a bridge?

    The more I think about it, the more I am sure it`s bull. I might be more inclined to believe them if they said it was alien technology.

    As if the oil companies could stop it. You`re thinking far too small-scale. This isn`t about cars, not really. This is about electricity generation, enviromental politics and world politics. It would change world politics overnight by immensely cutting the demand for oil, and that`s just a start. The only way oil companies could stop it would be to murder everyone who knows how it works and destroy anything that might contain data about it.

    Treehugger`s new second article on it poses the same question that I posed earlier - why cars? Power stations, either national scale (i.e. a multi-megawatt station feeding the grid) or domestic scale (i.e. a few KW in a house).

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    Seak Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:41 pm
    I could use one of those.
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    d0wnward Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:44 pm
    i love it, i want one, but will this country allow it? I doubt the greedy oil pigs will allow such a thing.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:49 pm
    A more plausible "suppression" argument is international co-operation at a government level to prevent radical, society-breaking change.

    Say this thing actually worked as stated and went on sale.

    i) Buy an electric car powered by one. You now have no fuel bills.

    ii) Buy one for your house. Take yourself off the grid. You now have no electricity bills.

    iii) Fit an electric boiler for heating and use electricity for cooking too - who cares if it uses a lot of electricity, you have all you need for nothing. So you now have no gas bills too.

    The utilities companies go bankrupt, as there is hardly any need for them.

    The oil companies go bankrupt, as there is far less need for them, only to supply the petrochemicial industry, and they couldn`t adjust in time.

    National governments suddenly lose all the tax revenue from road vehicle fuel and household power. What are they going to do?

    The middle east collapses as nearly all of its revenue disappears.

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    d0wnward Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:49 pm
    after reading some comments, maybe it is too good to be true :(
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:50 pm
    Drill Drill Drill!
  57. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    Oh dear, another one.

    dOwnward, please tell me how the oil companies could possibly stop it. It`s too late to murder everyone in Genepax who might know how it allegedly works. That would be far too suspicious.

    Genepax, to everyone: Hi, we can sell this box that makes electricity from only water, even very impure water, even salt water. Hell, even tea. And it doesn`t pollute at all!

    Utilities companies: OMG, we can make huge profits and get massive "green" PR! We`ll buy a billion.

    National governments: OMG, environment = votes! Cheaper electricity bills = votes! energy independence = votes! OMG, this box = many votes! We like it more than the other parties, remember that at election time. We`ll use lots of tax money to support this!

    Enviromental lobby groups: OMG! OMG! Support this!

    Everyone: OMG! Run my car on water! No electricity bills! OMG!

    Oil companies: We hate this.

    Everyone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Like we care!

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    "I fail to see how a teeny little box can do something so powerful as to strip electrons. ...I`ve only been learning chemistry for three years, but to my knowledge, this doesn`t make sense."

    Nonsense. Cells (popularly known as batteries) do just that but with chemistry. You set up certain groups of elements together in a certain way, and electrons are rather unavoidably fleeced. Have you not had an introduction to electrochemistry?

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 10:10 pm
    If it did work (IF), issues of practicality in a car would be moot. It`s not that big and it can`t be that heavy - just put 4 of them in a car and use more powerful electric motors. That`ll power a family car, no worries. You`d still be getting more mpg than most cars today (small, low-power efficient diesels could do better), so you would still have to fill up less often that now...and why care if you could fill up with water? Keep a 2 litre bottle of water in the car as an emergency - that would get you 50 miles in this 4-box car. In most places, you can find a river, lake or suchlike within 50 miles, or somewhere that sells water.

    If it worked.

  60. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 10:15 pm
    Someone mentioned a water crisis. The crisis is with *drinkable* water, not water in general. Plenty of that in the seas.

    Come to think of it, this could solve the drinkable water problem too, by using salty water to generate electricity to desalinate other salty water, or contaminated water to purify other contaminated water.

    If it really worked, what kind of bizarre combination of brilliance and stupidity would target it only at cars?

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    pat125 Male 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 10:22 pm
    I`m sure larger cars could be fitted to run on water as well, and maybe at higher speeds with a larger engine. However, something tells me the oil companies would sooner find and burn the blueprints than allow people to have free fuel for their cars (actually they`ll probably just lobby the government to pass a law against it in the interest of keeping the companies afloat)

    But hopefully all goes to plan and we can get our hands on this technology. Imagine going to a water station and filling up for 50 cents a gallon, or just emptying a water bottle to get you that extra 50 miles. So cool.

  62. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 14, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    The oil companies lobby.

    The government is full of idiots who pass the law for no reason, as the oil companies cease to be powerful.

    Most other countries laugh and complain about wilful disregard for the environment.

    The USA government loses the next election in the most spectacular fashion imaginable. All the opposition has to do is pledge to repeal the law.

    If this really worked (IF), would you vote for the people who outlawed it?

    Oil companies are powerful because the USA is utterly dependent on oil. This technology, IF IT WORKED, would be a problem for the oil companies precisely because it would almost end that dependence, which would gut the power of the oil companies...so why would the government then allow itself to be controlled by them?

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    Rauron Male 13-17
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    July 15, 2008 at 1:12 am
    Here`s hoping people read the comments ._., I got tricked by it and now feel rather silly XD, but here`s reposting a link and pointing people to what Angilion is saying and maybe getting one or two people who scan the comments to lookie ._.
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    eleutherarch Female 13-17
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    July 15, 2008 at 3:15 am
    It looks silly though.
  65. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    July 15, 2008 at 4:11 am
    I call BS.
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    Foob Male 40-49
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    July 15, 2008 at 4:49 am
    Finally!
    Let`s see if the big oil bastards will try to kill this one as well.
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    July 15, 2008 at 5:25 am
    I`m astounded at the degree to which people fail to think things through. *If* this technology worked, the oil companies wouldn`t bury it -- they`d buy it and make money off of it. They know that the supply of oil is limited and that they will need to move into an alternate industry eventually. *If* this thing worked, it would be the answer to the oil companies` prayers.
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    Scythe246 Male 13-17
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    July 15, 2008 at 5:33 am
    Great, now water will cost a FRIKIN $5 DOLLARS A GALLON. Thanks alot you Japenese bastards
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    mikewrichard Male 13-17
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    July 15, 2008 at 6:22 am
    Wait a minute... it has a generator which extracts hydrogen... what runs the generator? Also, this is terribly inefficient.
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    Ohnjaynb Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 6:22 am
    I just don`t trust this. There`s always a catch to these run-on-water cars.
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    Ohnjaynb Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 6:29 am
    Popular Mechanics magazine calls bullpoo!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car#Technology

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 15, 2008 at 6:30 am
    They can get someone to figure out how to get a car to run on water but dont have enough sense to make it look decent WTF that thing looks like a clown car.
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    July 15, 2008 at 8:42 am
    Second law of thermodynamics anyone? Naturally this is fake and I doubt you will ever hear of it again. It`s also so obvious that if it did not comprise an impossible "perpetual motion" machine, someone would have made it decades ago.
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    WindDelay Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 9:26 am
    You can use the hydrogen from water as a direct fuel for a combustion engine as well.

    It uses pretty much the same setup as a gas combustion auto. The fuel runs the motor, and the motor uses some of the excess mechanical energy to run the alternator to charge the battery. In this case battery power would be used to power the electrolysis process, providing the fuel. That`s the basic premise for the water fueled car that got so much hype in the past.

    To debunk it you would just have to assert that the the energy required to break apart water exceeds the energy that can be produced from an alternator type generator. I have no doubt someone can.

    I can assert however that the tech nowadays is close to what is needed to make this work. Hydrogen burned has a lot more energy potential than hydrogen as a fuel cell catalyst, and Newtons laws are fuzzy as hell as they relate to electromagnetism and power generation. When it comes to magnet based generators, it`s more about work than force

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    Indigo_M Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 9:40 am
    Fake and stupid. It worries me that so many people have fallen for this. The potential energy stored in water molecules is miniscule; not nearly enough to power a car or an electron-extracting generator. The oil companies must have known this too, because if they had taken this water car seriously, they would have panicked and the stock market would have felt it.
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    WindDelay Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 10:09 am
    Let me put it this way, If I can cut the friction forces in half in an alternator, and can then run two alternators for double the energy with the same amount of mechanical force, did that extra energy come out of nowhere? If I set up a gear or belt assembly to run those generators at 2x speed, with only a marginal increase in force, does that energy come out of nowhere? Of course not.

    Do either of these ideas violate Newtonian laws? You tell me. I always found those laws kind of smug, archaic, and outdated. They don`t accurately take into account the electromagnetic force, nor the weak force, barely account for the gravitational force, and are therefore in need of re-thinking, if just to shut all you self proclaimed "educated" a-holes who shout every new idea down just because THE LAW SAYS SO.

    And when it comes to the metal hydride hydrogen cell powered car, even if they made the catalyst last 2 years, and be as cheap to replace as an oil change, people will still biatch

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    Chappell Male 13-17
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    July 15, 2008 at 10:56 am
    thats not true, it takes battaries that have to be replaced to extract hydrogen, so its not completely eco-friendly
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    Roduku Male 50-59
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    July 15, 2008 at 10:57 am
    A water powered car is a great idea, economically. However, where I live, the temperature falls below freezing 3 to 4 months out of a year.
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    average0bear Female 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 11:18 am
    nothing will ever be totally eco-friendly though.
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    kribbe Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    thats kinda obvious for japan to invent
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    blackbum4me Male 18-29
    35 posts
    July 15, 2008 at 1:16 pm
    sounds to good to be true, they didnt explained where the generator got his power from.

    if you just take the info like its given to you in the movie that thing is a perpetuum mobile and thats not possible.

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    AFTERSHOCK Male 18-29
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    July 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm
    I WANT ONE!!!
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 15, 2008 at 4:14 pm
    Indigo_M: It is fake, but the amount of energy in water molecules is staggeringly immense.

    1 litre of water has a mass of 1Kg.

    E=mc^2

    So the amount of energy in it is 1*300000000*3000000000 = 90000000000000000 Joules.

    That`s 90 Petajoules, a figure so large that it`s incomprehensible.

    To make it more understandable, 1 litre of water contains enough energy to run a 20W light "bulb" for approximately 140 million years.

    This claimed technology is unbelievable, but not for the lack of energy potentially available. It`s unbelievable because of the lack of any reason to think they can convert it from matter to energy with anything like enough efficiency, plus the fact that anyone could tell them that IF it did work, their plans are stupid beyond belief, staggeringly narrow-minded foolishness.

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    Guy6870 Male 13-17
    142 posts
    July 15, 2008 at 7:47 pm
    Hey, any one remember what happend to that 200% effeceintcy device posted around christmas time this year? (2007 what ever) I remember something like, it taped an unknown engery source in the proton or something like that. I remember the article, but when ever I google it, I can`t find it anymore.

    who else to trust this task to then the fine fellows on IMB!

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    Tikitac Male 18-29
    115 posts
    July 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    This will be great it they can quickly develop it.
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    theburford Male 13-17
    117 posts
    July 16, 2008 at 11:58 am
    You use tea to start your day, why not your car?
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    OptiSkiver Male 18-29
    81 posts
    July 17, 2008 at 7:32 pm
    Somehow I`m reminded of that Keanu Reeves movie where he figured out the same exact thing... I believe he spent the whole movie running from people who wanted to kill him for it. :P
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    digitalmaste Male 13-17
    126 posts
    July 17, 2008 at 10:04 pm
    Can someone please explain the chemistry behind this, because it makes zero sense to me. How can this generator get energy out of water? Wouldn`t it take energy to power the generator? And if its being powered by water also, how the hell is it getting more energy out of the water than it is putting in? This whole thing sounds like complete bs to me...
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    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    July 19, 2008 at 3:26 pm
    Fcuk the goverment man, I want this car out. Good for the enviroment, good for sales in cars and good for are future.
    Fcuk gas and oil prices, im sick of paying 1.50 every time i need to go somewhere.
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    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    July 19, 2008 at 3:35 pm
    I also love how most of the people saying "it wont happen" or "this is bullcrap" Are the ones who have like posted like only 9 times and are all from the 13-17 age.
    Nice.
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    Manne88 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2009 at 8:30 am
    amazing!
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    icfire504 Male 13-17
    341 posts
    June 6, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    And this is why US auto companies are going under, because Japan actually makes a big effort like this to get better fuel
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    RawrXD Male 18-29
    145 posts
    October 31, 2009 at 7:41 am
    Digitalmaste its the same concept as gas, you put gas in, and the mechanics turn it into energy. Just in this case they are using water as the fuel.
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    Frambuesas Female 18-29
    136 posts
    January 19, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    holy eff that is awesome!
    why don`t you hear about people working on this kind of shi.t in America? Oh, right, then the oil companies would go under.
    Cuz they`re more important than having cheap, efficient, environment-friendly transportation.
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
    1582 posts
    January 27, 2010 at 12:15 am
    Very cool Japan! Please speed up the manufacturing process so I can buy one! XD

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