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Date: 07/08/08 01:02 PM

172 Responses to Human Evolution Animation

  1. Profile photo of eugenius
    eugenius Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 12:39 pm
    Link: Human Evolution Animation - Carl Sagan explains four billion years of evolution in about 7 minutes. Bonus: It`s animated.
  2. Profile photo of Dextrine
    Dextrine Male 18-29
    483 posts
    July 8, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    Wow. that was a great one! That really summed up what i`ve been trying to explain to my parents for a while now.

    anyway, GO CARL SAGAN!!

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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    That was actually very intrigueing. What accent did he have?
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    dljudo92 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:13 pm
    EVOLUTION FTW!!!!!!111!!!1!one1!!!!
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    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:14 pm
    I liked the vid, but I cannot stand his voice.

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    riotDX Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:14 pm
    Hmm... If, supposedly (according to this video) birds are the only surviving relative of the dinosaurs, how would you explain Komodo Dragons and Crocodiles/Aligators?
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm
    Crocodiles are not dinosaurs, and neither are komodo dragons, jackass.
  8. Profile photo of Dextrine
    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm
    ^it said in the video that they were a different branch

    some of the sea creatures branched off into dinos others into amphibians and reptiles

  9. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm
    I got a kick out of his voice. It was almost like listening to Principal Skinner from the Simpsons. Otherwise, was a very good and interesting video. I`ve seen most of the Discovery channel specials that some of those computer animations were from. Very interesting stuff.
  10. Profile photo of davisboy
    davisboy Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm
    Here we go Evolution vs Creation......

    Now tell me which easier to believe. That all this happened by chance, or that there is a supreme GOD over all who created everything.

    When man with all his technology can create life out of the pure mineral of the earth then I will in evolution.

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    Dextrine Male 18-29
    483 posts
    July 8, 2008 at 1:21 pm
    ummm, davisboy no one had brought anything about creation up... if anything YOU started it right now
    but i`m ending it

    there`s no such thing as anything.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    riotDX
    Male, 18-29, Eastern US
    103 Posts Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:14:16 PM
    Hmm... If, supposedly (according to this video) birds are the only surviving relative of the dinosaurs, how would you explain Komodo Dragons and Crocodiles/Aligators?
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    I`ll explain without the insults!

    They where around then, they are around now..like sharks for example! Dinosaur is relativly simple term which simply dosnt encompass the vastness of species there have been..and a lot of extinct animals get put into the dinosaur catagory which are not, infact dinosaurs. But yes..as allready said..they are not dinosaurs!

  13. Profile photo of Polish_Lacey
    Polish_Lacey Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm
    Which is easier to believe?

    Cells divide, evolve, change and slowly adapt to their surroundings. Proved with fossils, DNA, etc.

    A talking evil snale told a woman, made out of a rib, to get her husband to eat from a magical tree that was forbidden by a big voice in the Sky.

    I think we all know which is easier to believe.

  14. Profile photo of WRNKLDTITFUZ
    WRNKLDTITFUZ Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:25 pm
    Where does Jesus fit into this?
    or Isis?
    or Thor?
    or Buddha?
  15. Profile photo of Dextrine
    Dextrine Male 18-29
    483 posts
    July 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    ^i believe they`re at the end. in the "human" branch
  16. Profile photo of smartbomb314
    smartbomb314 Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    or vishnu!
  17. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    davisboy
    Male, 30-39, Eastern US
    85 Posts Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:19:56 PM
    Here we go Evolution vs Creation......

    Now tell me which easier to believe. That all this happened by chance, or that there is a supreme GOD over all who created everything.

    When man with all his technology can create life out of the pure mineral of the earth then I will in evolution.
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    So..man cant recreate because we dont know exactly what the conditions where or how it acctually happened..we can only guess.

    Still...I`ll take that over some ridiculous story of some bloodthristy hippy going "piff, paff, poof" and all of existance coming into being.

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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    If there was ever changing species, why isn`t there a fossil record of any of them?
    Missing links in the chain.
  19. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:29 pm
    I liked South Parks version better.
  20. Profile photo of Zerocyde
    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    THIS IS STUPID! HOW CAN A MONKEY GIVE BURTH TO A HUMAN? HUH DUMBASSES? I DONT SEE BIRDS GIVING BIRTH TO ALIGATORS DO YOU? I DIDNT THINK SO! IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT GOD MADE MAN FROM holy crap I can`t even pretend to say this garbage it makes me want to stab myself in the face with a screwdriver, lol.
  21. Profile photo of WRNKLDTITFUZ
    WRNKLDTITFUZ Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    your mother may be the missing link
  22. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    The average human today is several inches taller than the average human only 400-500 years ago. Evolution: Proved.
  23. Profile photo of yellowsquare
    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    elkingo, there are plenty of transitional species fossils.

    Ever heard of Neanderthals? Or Australopithecus afarensis? They`re both examples of HUMAN transitional species.

    A well-known Australopithecus afarensis is the famous "Lucy". I`d suggest you google/Wiki "Lucy fossil".

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    finnishrock Female 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:38 pm
    didnt watch da vid yet but i think i can explain in less than 7 min.:
    idiots
    idiots with fire
    kings and their slaves
    slaves on drugs
    people on drugs
    people on drugs fighting
    smart people
    hippies on drugs
    hippies protesting war
    hippies grow up and start more wars and make drugs illegal
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    elkingo
    Male, 18-29, Eastern US
    90 Posts Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:28:37 PM
    If there was ever changing species, why isn`t there a fossil record of any of them?
    Missing links in the chain.
    -------------------------------------------------

    1) Fossils are relativly rare. They only form under certain circumstances. For example, there has only ever been about 30 T-rex fossils found, and never a full skeleton..just parts.

    2) Its a long long LONG chain..the amount of hominid (human ancestors) fossils found worldwide wouldnt even fill the the back of an icecream truck...

  26. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    "The average human today is several inches taller than the average human only 400-500 years ago. Evolution: Proved."

    Thats Micro-evolution. And it could have other reasons like the chemicals in cows. Thats why many of the third-world countries have short people. But Kenya has short people that can run fast.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    "hippies on drugs
    hippies protesting war
    hippies grow up and start more wars and make drugs illegal"

    We should make pot legal just to shut pot heads up. Grow up and do coke like an adult

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    gazfarr Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    dolphins were monkeys that didnt like the land

    i believe we (evolutionists) win - we dont have the burden of proof

  29. Profile photo of Bioshocker
    Bioshocker Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    Well done Carl Sagan I watched the whole thing!
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    georgeg Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    Zerocyde
    Male, 18-29, Western US
    779 Posts Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:30:17 PM
    THIS IS STUPID! HOW CAN A MONKEY GIVE BURTH TO A HUMAN? HUH DUMBASSES? I DONT SEE BIRDS GIVING BIRTH TO ALIGATORS DO YOU? I DIDNT THINK SO! IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT GOD MADE MAN FROM holy crap I can`t even pretend to say this garbage it makes me want to stab myself in the face with a screwdriver, lol.
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    well actually monkeys DIDN`T give birth to us we came from a common ansestor and oh the holy
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    IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT GOD MADE MAN FROM holy crap-your not serioous are you?really we came from crap!! and also it says in the bookm i just wrote that god came from a dude called peter they may find this book in 2000 years time and there was someone called peter 2000 years ago so therefore it must be true.......no
  31. Profile photo of AFTERSHOCK
    AFTERSHOCK Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:53 pm
    I WANNA BE AN `X-MEN`
  32. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    Micro-evolution is still evolution. It`s small changes that happen over long period of time that change an organism. It`s the same reason you can get more than one cold in a season. The cold you get adapts and mutates, and you pass the new version on to someone else, which is why you can get it again from them, it`s has changed already and your body hasn`t adapted to it.
    The biggest evolutionary change we can document in humans is the human intellect. If there was no such thing as evolution, than we`d still be in the stone-age. Technology and science are the ruslt of the human brain and mind evolving. ONce we became the dominant species, our bodies no longer needed to adapt as much. Now all our evolution is done inside our skulls.
  33. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:57 pm
    "Now all our evolution is done inside our skulls."

    Not really. Dumb people are having babies at a far greater rate.

  34. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    The ice cream truck The_Maddog is describing would be one scary place to get ice cream from but other then that i thought that the video was an easily understandable and the CG was awesome. What proof is there against evolution anyway? none
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    Monsdurr Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 1:59 pm
    Absolutely stupid and hypocritical for someone to beleive in microevolution but not macro.
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    sinfulsisi Female 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm
    the next evolution is l337|\|355 ~~~~

    :D

  37. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:02 pm
    Proof that Everything You Believe Is Wrong
  38. Profile photo of CaptainPat
    CaptainPat Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:07 pm
    4 billion year old tree?
    damn i need to go find me a chainsaw.
  39. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    The problem with the Gene Pool is that there`s no Lifeguard.
  40. Profile photo of IkeRay
    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    what sucks is that since we are so "intelligent" anything that has any kind of adaptational birth difference (evolution if you will) we immediately destroy any evidence. just because we are evolving in our heads doesn`t mean our bodies have to stop evolving.

    my biggest beef with biology is the naming of genus species. all wild cats are in the group panthera, much as all primates are in the genus Homo; BUT a bengal tiger has a different species name than a siberian tiger, although their differences are limited to height and skin/fur color. humans are lumped into homo sapien (sapien for trispecies) and yet we can have race. personally, I think that mongloid, negroid, and causcasoid are all different in the same way as the tiger and should be named so..."africans" are homo sapien negroid, and the same for asia/america and europe. the only problem now is that was have cross species reproduction, so its hard to really name humans now...

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    akijade Female 18-29
    1006 posts
    July 8, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    lol, I love watching watching people fight over Creationism vs Evolution. The creationists scream that everyone is wrong while the folks for evolution give facts. It`s like watching a retarded kid try to play chess.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:13 pm
    "Now tell me which easier to believe. That all this happened by chance, or that there is a supreme GOD over all who created everything."

    Which is easier to believe: That strong critters are less likely to die than weak critters (Hurr), which is all that is required for evolution to work, or that a magical sky fairy placed everything here in spite of all the evidence that shows that the former concept is actually true.

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    Smashking Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:13 pm
    I love how after a 7 minute video about evolution, he ends the video saying humans affect everything in the world, either making us saviors of life or destroyers of everything.
  44. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    IkeRay soon we will all be like the people from the future off South Park. lol
  45. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    "That all this happened by chance..."

    By `all this` I am assuming you mean life, in which case I feel compelled to let you know that evolution is the polar *opposite* of a chance process. Until you understand evolution, I`ve a feeling you will ever believe in creation.

    "Thats Micro-evolution."

    Scientists don`t distinguish between micro- and macro-evolution. Macro-evolution is just micro-evolution that is allowed to continue for far greater lengths of time. Now, from that statement I`m going to assume you accept your so-called micro-evolution but not macro-evolution. If that`s the case, how are you justifying accepting micro-evolution but not macro-?

  46. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:18 pm
    "Thats Micro-evolution."

    Micro-evolution and macro-evolution are the

    Same
    Damn
    Thing

    Period.

    It`s a common tactic among modern fundamentalists to try and distinguish between the two in order to have a cop-out for modern observations of evolution in bacteria and the like. The truth is that if micro-evolution happens, then macro-evolution happens with enough time.

    Many small changes eventually lead to big changes.

    One last note: Increase in human height is due to improving diets and health, not evolution. In fact, Napolean Bonaparte was about 5`6"- which was very tall for a European at the time. That sort of change would not occur through evolution as it does not produce a significant benefit.

  47. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...

    Dinosaurs aren`t millions of years old, the tissue would be gone. They are only a few thousand.

  48. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    I can jump high. No one else in my family can. Thats really really really really micro evolution. Macro-evolution suggest change in species to become new species. Such as a future child of mine growing a third working leg... over time. And also that macro-evolution makes various assumptions such as certain animals werent already there. Macro would state that first came this then that. It doesnt take into account there were more of this then there were more of that. I did have a whole point to make but Tony Reali is back on Around the Horn after his vacation.
  49. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    Actually Cat it might depending on the circumstances but during that era you are right in saying it wouldn`t.
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    Skyira Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    his voice makes me feel like im back at school:(
  51. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    ^^
    The tissue IS gone. That`s why what remains is the bones and the fossils. Duh.
    -------
    "Most fossils preserve an organism`s hard tissues, such as shell or bone. Finding preserved soft tissue is unheard of in a dinosaur-age specimen."

    read please

  52. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    "I can jump high. No one else in my family can. Thats really really really really micro evolution."

    No, it`s not. It`s either a random mutation or genetic inheritance, and if it is beneficial to you then it is adaptation. But it is not evolution unless it benefits you and thus spreads to all of mankind.

    "Macro-evolution suggest change in species to become new species."

    Many small changes will produce this effect. Reference the Galapagos islands, from which Darwin drew research. The human eye is also a prime example.

    And hey, Simu`d by Overmann. What`s up?

  53. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:25 pm
    remember back in school when they told you dinosaurs were millions of years old? well this soft-tissue disproves that, scientists are only theorizing how old these animals are
  54. Profile photo of Evil_Smurf
    Evil_Smurf Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    primetimekin wins. He just wins.

    And while the video was really good, I`d like some more in-depth explanation on how and why certain branches evolved the way they did.

  55. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:30 pm
    "Many small changes will produce this effect. Reference the Galapagos islands, from which Darwin drew research. The human eye is also a prime example."

    Wouldn`t that be Micro considering it didn`t completely change the species it changed the beaks.

  56. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    Anyone who believes in Creation is either ignorant, stupid, or ignoring all the facts.

    So think about that.

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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    "Wouldn`t that be Micro considering it didn`t completely change the species it changed the beaks."

    And what would happen if...a couple thousand of these micro changes occurred? Oh poo a speciation event!

    Dippoo.

  58. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    Catbarf, what do you think causes evolution if not the body adapting to outside influences SUCH as improved diet and health? and even in Napoleon`s time, 5`6" was still average, if not short. Very tall in his day would have been Thomas Jefferson or George Washington, both of whom stood at a good 6`2". Napoleon was of average height and the reason he has been depicted as short is complicated. The french inch in his time was longer than the british inch. The British also portayed him as a little man in order to make fun of him. Also, his nickname "le petit caporal" with petit taken as literally meaning small, but was actualy a term of affection referring to his comraderie with his soldiers.
  59. Profile photo of dilldog123
    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    there are some SERIOUS racial stereotypes that i am just /itching/ to bring up.
  60. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    ok and what were to happen if someone `evolved` one day? like let`s say he was born with 3 fully functional legs, would you amputate his 3rd leg?
  61. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:37 pm
    Unless you can produce testable evidence that can be reproduced in the lab you can prove creationism. Evolution wins by default because not only does it have the most evidence we can also produce result using the Theory of Evolution.
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    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    why should we? if the leg works, and (s)he and his parents want to keep it, why stop evolution?
  63. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    can`t*

    I`m sorry sometimes i type too fast.

  64. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:40 pm
    Unless you can produce testable evidence that can be reproduced in the lab you can prove creationism. Evolution wins by default because not only does it have the most evidence we can also produce result using the Theory of Evolution.
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    but the scientists themselves don`t know how old dinosaurs are, how are they supposed to date everything else?
  65. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    why should we? if the leg works, and (s)he and his parents want to keep it, why stop evolution?
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    exactly, but they would end up amptutating it anyway I bet, everyone would call him/her a freak no?
  66. Profile photo of dilldog123
    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    the idiots would. most evolutionists would use it as evidence, and i doubt they would call him a freak.
  67. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    Actually using Carbon Dating you can in fact get a good estimate on how old something is because the Carbon they are using is radioactive and will have a half-life after a certain period of time. Its not 100% exact but it is quite close.
  68. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:46 pm
    the idiots would. most evolutionists would use it as evidence, and i doubt they would call him a freak.
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    my friend, after seeing all the videos on I-A-B, the number of idiots is A LOT haha

    Actually using Carbon Dating you can in fact get a good estimate on how old something is because the Carbon they are using is radioactive and will have a half-life after a certain period of time. Its not 100% exact but it is quite close.
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    why did they carbon date dinosaur bones before and say it was 7,000,000 years old then?

  69. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    soft-tissue is definitely NOT even close to 7,000,000 or whatever millions of years
  70. Profile photo of dilldog123
    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    uhhhhh.....heres a link from yesterday that davymid posted on about carbon dating...scroll down.
    http://www.i-am-bored.com/forums.asp?action=read&ct=10&q_id=31574&read_page=2&ss=&search_where=
  71. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Because that the (approximate) amount of years that have passed since the dinosaur died. If you read the article it says that it will change what they currently now about the fossilization process. There may be another way to fossilize something then currently thought. That is basically what their saying.
  72. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Anyone who believes in Creation is either ignorant, stupid, or ignoring all the facts.
    So think about that.
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    Facts by people who hate God so this is kinda biased.

    If you want to become a scientist, you will have to believe evolution if you want to get to the top. Since all the top scientists are evolutionists, you have to kiss-up to them. Their system is pretty corrupted at this point.

  73. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    Besides i wasn`t saying that Carbon Dating was what exactly you use but you can use the same process using something with a longer half-life.
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    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:57 pm
    You wanna talk about corruption, do some research on the history of the Christian religion.
    What I don`t get is why we don`t subject Judeo-Christian-Islam creation myths to the same scrutiny we do as the Norse, Gaelic, Celtic, Roman, Greek, Egyptian, Sumerian, Syrian, Hindu, Taoist, Shinto, Aboriginal, Native American, Cthulhu, Middle Earth, Dr. Who, Marvel Comics, etc. myths. The only difference between the Old Testament and the H.P. Lovecraft Cthulhu Mythos is that we know for certain the latter was written by a sickly, depressed, racist man who had bad dreams in the 1920`s.
  75. Profile photo of Ancientmage
    Ancientmage Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    carbon dating or not, it`s still a proven fact that dinosaurs weren`t millions of years old; rather only a few thousand. With that being said, I highly doubt the earth is millions of years old.
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    Varifael Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    ancientmage, if you were even reading the article that you put a link to, you would notice it says "from a 70-million-year-old thighbone" at the top, and that the soft tissue was extracted from the inside of the bone. So basically, all there is left is a giant freaking dinosaur thighbone.

    I`m not sure where you got "a few thousand" but I presume you saw "soft tissue" and then started jumping to the conclusion that since soft tissue supposedly doesn`t last that long, scientists must be idiots. Well, in case you stopped reading after that part, it basically says that YES, soft tissue CAN be preserved for millions of years, but possibly through a different process than what scientists currently believe.

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    aroc91 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    If you want to become a scientist, you will have to believe evolution if you want to get to the top. Since all the top scientists are evolutionists, you have to kiss-up to them. Their system is pretty corrupted at this point.

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    Most scientists are evolutionists because evidence that they work on gathering supports it, moron. And about the soft tissue found, go read a book or something about mummification. Nothing can break down without oxygen (hence bacteria), so dinosaurs that became trapped in mud/tar/etc. that were not exposed to oxygen after they died were simply mummified. If that happens, the tissue won`t break down until it`s exposed to air and bacteria, so soft tissue can exist forever, given the right circumstances. Go look at Otzi the iceman. He died 5300 years ago, and his skin is perfectly preserved because he was trapped in ice. Hell, even his WOODEN arrows didn`t break down.

  78. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    I am wondering where ancient got this "fact" that dinosaurs are only thousands of years old.
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    I am wondering where ancient got this "fact" that dinosaurs are only thousands of years old.

    -

    Probably his church youth group. lol

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    malikymoo Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    lol that video is cool.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    "Catbarf, what do you think causes evolution if not the body adapting to outside influences SUCH as improved diet and health?"

    No modification of humans was necessary, so I wouldn`t call it evolution or adaptation. It was an improvement in diet mostly.

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    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    Wow that was so....beautiful....makes me want to go watch the discover channel and change to a bio major XD
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    Kisato Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    I love this kind of stuff. It`s really interesting... and as Rman1201 said, I want to go watch the Discovery channel or History channel now.... But not become a bio major... D:
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    Tartaros Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    wow, you guys need to chill. If we see a black guy as president, we know who the anti-christ is. omg he`s here o.o (lol j/k)
  85. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    Who`s the anti-christ? i doubt Obama is because isn`t the Anti-Christ supposed to take over the world? Obama doesn`t have the guts to do that.
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    Ancientmage
    Male, 13-17, Eastern US
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    carbon dating or not, it`s still a proven fact that dinosaurs weren`t millions of years old; rather only a few thousand. With that being said, I highly doubt the earth is millions of years old.
    ---------------------------------------------------

    Congratulations. You just won the award for IABs stupidest poster. Even without carbon dating we can still laugh at your stupidity. Go speak to a geologist and ask about rocks and sediments. Then go speak to a paelentologist and ask how far down some dinosaur fossils are found. Oh..dont forget to add up the age of each sediment layer between us and the fossil...

    but that would be to easy..you know..you`d have to use your brain!

  87. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    If Ancientmage was born with a mutation that made him lack the use of his brain in regards to logic and reason I could understand that he thinks dinosaurs are only a couple thousand years old.
  88. Profile photo of Tartaros
    Tartaros Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:34 pm
    I`m going to be a smart ass and say that nothing is real.

    Evolutionists believe the scientists on tv/books/etc, but did they acutally research it themselves (in person)?

    Creationists believe a book made by some dude a long time ago, were they there at that time?

    So in the end, we can say that nothing is real so just go on with your lives. Good Day.

  89. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    Tartaros you can actually try evolution out at home (not likely to get like a giant Venus Fly Trap that eats people though).
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    Sorry I was out. Lights were cut out. Well... Middle Class was fun.
  91. Profile photo of primetimekin
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    The Answer To Life the Universe and Everything
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    finnishrock Female 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    i agree totally with Tartaros
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    Evolution yayness shift1
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    July 8, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    Actually prime the answer is 42.
  95. Profile photo of The_Maddog
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:00 pm
    primetimekin:

    Wasnt funny the first time, wasnt funny the 2nd time. 3rd time, I hunt you down and strangle you with your own intestines!

    Yeah..its been a bad day!

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    July 8, 2008 at 4:06 pm
    I thought it was funny both times.
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:18 pm
    ^^ Prime, I`ve got a better one (NSFW)

    http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=18741

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    July 8, 2008 at 4:19 pm
    WTF primetime i opened then i closed it but the song is still playing
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:20 pm
    make it stop
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    patthebaker thats because its still playing in your head.
    This newgrounds link will explain it.It really does explain it
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:42 pm
    I love the people who aren`t arguing but just throw in little tidbits to try and feel like they`re accepted. Who doesn`t love a good evolution vs. creation battle?

    Boring video, though. His voice will forever haunt me.

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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 4:53 pm
    Thid vid could have been better

    Oh course we didn’t come DIRECTLY from monkeys. I’ll explain tomorrow when I have the time. G2g

  103. Profile photo of Overmann
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    Again I ask, primetimekin, how you are justifying accepting micro-evolution but not macro-evolution. Why do you feel compelled to accept small adaptations but not the large adaptations that result in speciation?

    I like how all these 13-17 year olds try to show up educated scientists at their own trade. The reason why scientists tend to reject notions of the earth being merely a few thousand years old, Ancientmage, is because the evidence does not support such a claim. Any scientist who desires to argue against the evidence with nothing to support his claim simply isn`t a scientist and is duly chided. And thank God for that, because the peer-review process is the reason why science has remained the strongest, best analytical process in learning about our environment.

    And greets, catbarf. How`s it hanging?

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    matt1119 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    loved that..very interesting
  105. Profile photo of billcosby
    billcosby Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:21 pm
    Too all the religious zealots out there look up the Miller-Urey experiment. Please. Simple.
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    billcosby Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    Also...to Davisboy and related people why don`t you look up George Carlin`s view on religion.... perhaps that will give you some perspective.
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    The religious zealots have nothing!

    I`m still debating if I should hunt Prime down or not!

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    mrpopenfresh Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:30 pm
    Wow guys, good job on trying to insult creationism before it was even brought up.
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    ^^ Stay you hand, Maddog. Prime has the analytical reason ability of your average tardigrade, but dammit, he has a sense of humour with it. And therefore helps to alleviate my boredom, which is, after all, why we`re all here, right?

    I agree that occassionally he needs to have his nose rubbed in his own poo, but like a mischievous puppy, I think he means well, deep down. Bless.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:50 pm
    Awww davymid!


    You spoiled my fun!

    He is far to easy though!

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 5:52 pm
    ^^ "Again I ask, primetimekin, how you are justifying accepting micro-evolution but not macro-evolution"

    Overmann, I am in abject agreement. You may enjoy this, if you haven`t discovered it already.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUGJ3Jh7fc&feature=related

  112. Profile photo of DUbblecoMB
    DUbblecoMB Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    "Here we go Evolution vs Creation......

    Now tell me which easier to believe. That all this happened by chance, or that there is a supreme GOD over all who created everything."

    The whole idea of evolution is that it`s all one large coincidence. It makes a lot of sense if you sit and think about it. How were you born? You were the product of a mother and a father. How did they meet? Most likely by chance. The whole idea of evolution is that we were brought about by small coincidences depending on chance. That`s why everything takes so long in evolution. The odds are so low that these things will happen, that nothing changes until these coincidences come about, which takes millions upon billions of years.

  113. Profile photo of Tartaros
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    idk... I do actually hope creationism is true though, I kinda want to go to the after-life, not just disappear into the dirt when I die X-(
  114. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:13 pm
    davymid..

    Dude...since when does logic and truth work on these halfwits?

  115. Profile photo of billcosby
    billcosby Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:22 pm
    DUbblecoMB please look up the Miller-Urey experiment.It pretty much proves evolution... it shows that over a week you can develop the building blocks of DNA. You can exaggerate the week and make it 100 million years...the fact is, it still happens. So how do you refute this experimentally reproducible evidence?
  116. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    DUbblecoMB, I must disagree. The rate of evolution is roughly proportional to the rate of a species` generation time. That is why a culture of yeast or E. coli evolves much, much faster than humans, for instance. The reason for this proportionality is due to the copy errors or mutations that inevitably occur when new DNA is synthesized in sexual and asexual exchanges. The higher the rate of new DNA being synthesized, the more quickly copy errors are made, and therefore the quicker the variation in a species. The only "chance" aspect of evolution, if it can be thought of that way, is indeed what errors or mutations occur. Natural selection plays the part of always selecting beneficial mutations in an individual who is then free to pass on these beneficial mutations to its offspring. Given enough time (as allowed by that species` generation time), these mutations can build on one another to produce an almost completely different organism.
  117. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 6:39 pm
    And thanks, davymid, I did rather enjoy that.
  118. Profile photo of primetimekin
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:15 pm
    Overmann, I said it somewhere in page 2 or 3 and I do not reject evolution. As a Catholic its not in my Dogma to necessarily believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, or that there is not evolution. Im just really tired of hearing it in school as a absolutely proven fact that 1000 years from now will not change in theory. Thats why I take the opposition because as of now it is the alternative. Now there are certain aspects of evolution that make absolutely no sense such as the whole coming from non-life that was found in the beginning of this video
  119. Profile photo of primetimekin
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:17 pm
    With that said I demand fancy adds a Catholic category to religion
  120. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    and according to davymid im apparently a microscopic manatee?
  121. Profile photo of billcosby
    billcosby Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:20 pm
    primetimekin ... look up the Miller-Urey experiment I keep mentioning. Maybe it will shed some light on the nonsense.
  122. Profile photo of primetimekin
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:41 pm
    Miller-Urey was inconclusive. Not enough amino acids produced.

    It would be like saying you can complete an 18-hole golf course if there were sufficient earthquakes to move the ball towards the hole (I dont know if that applies but I saw it on a website and it was funny)

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    billcosby Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:46 pm
    Miller-Urey was not inconclusive. It pointed out the fact that amino acids can be created from non-organic precursors. There were several variants to their experiments which showed even more amino acids created in conditions believed to mimic Earths primordium even better. Irregardless... isn`t even 1 amino acid enough to prove that it can happen???
  124. Profile photo of primetimekin
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    July 8, 2008 at 7:59 pm
    ^^^
    Possible, yes. Definite, no where close.
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    July 8, 2008 at 8:01 pm
    I dont have time to go thru 5 pages of this. I guess i `technically` side with "creationism"...

    My question is though - who said that things dont evolve because god wants them to? Maybe things do slooooooowly evolve because its `god`s will`, and because millions upon millions of people are too hard-headed to figure that maybe these two different ideas could very possibly be right in just the right levels to make sense...?? I mean take out that in evolution "There was no higher power...", and add in "..it was gods will that.." and you might come out with something like this "It was God`s Will that over millions upon millions of years, what came to be known to man as a "Dinosaur" `evolved` into just a "Bird"..."

    or something like that anyway..

    Does anyone understand what im getting at? O.o lol

  126. Profile photo of lVledic
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    July 8, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    Actually Prime you would likely be able to though the damage to the surrounding areas would likely be beyond catastrophic. Depending on the size of the earthquake.
  127. Profile photo of lVledic
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    July 8, 2008 at 8:12 pm
    I know where your getting at Apple but it just won`t happen.The creationists saying its too wasteful for a merciful god.
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    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 8:27 pm
    If I`m not getting my definitions mixed up (I might be) then Legacy, you would fall under more of the ID crowd (Intelligent Design) but if i got my definitions wrong, please correct me.
  129. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 8:31 pm
    I`ve said it before and I`m sure I`ll say it again. History, Archeology, Paleantology all show us that: Man`s greatest folly is to cling to the idea that he was created by gods and to forget that it was the other way around.
    Religion was born out of the sympathetic magic that primitive man used to understand and control his environment. Cave paintings both ensured and celebrated a successful hunt. Spend some time with the secluded tribes in Africa or the Andes. They behave just as man did prior to the iron age. There is NO evidence to suggest that the Judeo/Christian creation myth is any more valid than that of any other ancient culture. We only take it as more valid because Christianity has been "in charge" of Western Civilization for the last 1700 years.
  130. Profile photo of DUbblecoMB
    DUbblecoMB Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:01 pm
    "DUbblecoMB please look up the Miller-Urey experiment.It pretty much proves evolution... it shows that over a week you can develop the building blocks of DNA. You can exaggerate the week and make it 100 million years...the fact is, it still happens. So how do you refute this experimentally reproducible evidence?"

    I don`t refute any evidence. I don`t think you quite understood the meaning of my statement. I`m not saying that the occurrence of a species evolving is slow, I`m saying the stacking of the events that created modern humans took time, and while the adaptation of something to its environment can occur quickly, it takes time to create an organism as large and complex as a human from the single-celled organisms from ever so long ago.

  131. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:07 pm
    I looked through pages 2-3 and found only this:

    "And also that macro-evolution makes various assumptions such as certain animals werent already there. Macro would state that first came this then that. It doesnt take into account there were more of this then there were more of that."

    I don`t understand what you`re saying because you don`t give any examples or cite sources. So, my question is still unanswered. Can you come up with a better response?

    "Im just really tired of hearing it in school as a absolutely proven fact that 1000 years from now will not change in theory."

    Who`s to say evolutionary theory will not change? It`s not likely to, but science doesn`t presume any theory will not one day become not as great an explanatory device as it is today.

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    Mrface5 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:07 pm
    I don`t believe in evolution. The Miller-Urey experiment kind of illustrates my point, and would explain why I don`t think it occurs.
  133. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:13 pm
    "who said that things dont evolve because god wants them to?"

    I, too, understand what you`re getting at, Apple_18, but the simple fact is that the theory of evolution works whether divine intervention is assumed or not. It is not necessary to bring God into the fold of evolution. You can believe that creatures evolve because of "God`s will", but again that`s a belief based on no evidence.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:16 pm
    "Who`s to say evolutionary theory will not change? It`s not likely to, but science doesn`t presume any theory will not one day become not as great an explanatory device as it is today."

    I guess its what I call the Dolphins-Jets theory of argument mechanics.

    I think the Dolphins suck but they are my favorite team so I would say they go 6-10 one year. Then a Jets fans comes along and says "Hey, Dolphins suck" so I then go ahead and predict they go 10-6 and make the play-offs. My guess is that atheist said one thing, creationist opposed it, so atheist go completely the other way, and thats where I come in and see it all the way one way and go completely the other way.

  135. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    I don`t understand what you`re saying because you don`t give any examples or cite sources. So, my question is still unanswered. Can you come up with a better response?"

    Fossils are hard to find.
    Scientist see one animal at one point, then see an animal at another point. Its assumed that the animals are similar enough so they changed. It just seems like a large assumption.

  136. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    I`m confused...how does an experiment which shows that we has humans CAN recreate the environment needed to create the vital organic chemicals which make up the building blocks of life (in only a few days in a lab) explain why evolution DOESN`T occur? That logic is not ignorant, it`s stupid. You might as well say, "Oh well that proves it CAN happen. But it doesn`t prove that`s what DID happen."
  137. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:19 pm
    "You can believe that creatures evolve because of "God`s will", but again that`s a belief based on no evidence."

    As I have used in my basketball example, evidence doesn`t mean proof as something can have no evidence and still be true.


    And for the sake of future arguments I will take the Creationist side due to the Dolphins-Jets theory of argument mechanics.

  138. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:22 pm
    Rebel, since only a few amino acids (I believe 2) were created. Its missing a large amount. Its like saying just because I can make the basket with my eyes closed, I will be able to win a basketball game that way. (Why are all my references sports related?)
  139. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:33 pm
    Variations of the same experiment have created both more and fewer acids. But again, several days in a human created laboratory environment. That single experiment offers far more evidence for how life COULD have started than all the world`s religion`s creation myths combined. To accept Creationism or Intelligent Design is simply bad science. You are starting with a conclusion and working your way back from it. Evolution is taking the evidence and attempting to create the conclusion based on it. Evolution is evolving. answers breed more questions. the job of a scientist is to keep asking and seeking the answer to those questions. The job of a Creationist is to think of an answer first and try to link everything he sees back to it. The philosopher`s job is to poke holes in the original answer.
    Evolutionist - How?
    Creationist - Some dude did it.
    Philosopher - Why? What`s the point?
  140. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    What we should do is build a time machine (and yes it`s theorized to be possible) and send little drones back in time to record everything then we will not have these arguments.
  141. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    Well the time travel is theorized to be possible, but you couldn`t go back any further than the time the machine was first turned on. You could only go forward and back to your original starting point. To go back farther could effect history, which could invariably change our own present and stop the invention of the machine in the first place, or even prevent our existence at all...
  142. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    What about using the black hole time travel theory (might be a different name)? A certain rotating black hole can be used to travel back in time. I forget exactly how its supposed to be done but I can look it up if anyone requests it.
  143. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 10:10 pm
    THe black hole theory would allow you to travel faster than the speed of light, but you still couldn`t go back any farther than where you started. It`s a mobius strip. If you go back in time and kill Hitler in order to prevent WWII, then you prevent events which may have led to your own birth, creation of the machine, and your trip back through time in the first place, causing you to not go back in time and allowing Hitler to live, setting into motion your original actions, etc.
  144. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    Not necessarily, go to www.howstuffworks.com and look up quantum suicide.
  145. Profile photo of lVledic
    lVledic Male 13-17
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    July 8, 2008 at 10:16 pm
    Or just read this article and read the whole thing not just that page.
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    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    ancient mage, the age is correct, how it was preserved is not. what is more logical is that the fossil was preserved in a matter different to that of other fossils which allowed for tissue to be maintained
  147. Profile photo of KMeTG
    KMeTG Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 12:17 am
    Egads!

    "Wouldn`t that be Micro considering it didn`t completely change the species it changed the beaks"

    Exactly, the birds had a common ancestor that populated different parts of the islands and thus, over time, the beaks belonging to the different species changed to suit.

    Even though the only obvious change was the beak, it`s still speciation as the birds live in different habitats (beach, cliff, mainland etc), so they`re fairly segregated; different habitats means different foodstuffs so they`re going to have differences in digestive systems to cope with this; most importantly, because they feed on different things, and because they inhabit different parts of the island, they don`t interbreed.

    So, even though the largest difference is only a small part of the bird, it`s still enough to justify saying it`s a different species.

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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    July 9, 2008 at 1:41 am
    The biggest problem with evolution was when computers evolved to be so simple to use that creationists could log on.
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    JJRed88 Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 3:27 am
    What I find most interesting about this debate is that while a handful of Evolutionists have evidence, most of them are just hurling insults at the Creationists. I would think if you actually understood your position you wouldn`t be so insecure as to have to sling mud at your opponents, don`t we see enough of that in the politics?
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    JJRed88 Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 3:31 am
    Another thing there are a handful of theories that state that even if you manage to go back in time you would be unable to change the past.
  151. Profile photo of Taroku
    Taroku Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 6:02 am
    Yep all those creationists are right, we scientists have totally sold out to the theory of evolution... Why? Because it is currently the most supported theory in all of science as of right now. The amounts of evidence both physical and circumstantial is overwhelming (Not actually as it all supports evolution). You have to remember when Darwin first proposed the theory the science world was totally against it, until they looked at it properly and looked at the evidence and then looked around them and realized, "Hey, this guy is correct."

    The Theory of Evolutions would have died a long time if it was not supported, that`s how science works. Being that it is around, those who are against it should stop claiming that the evidence doesn`t support it, because it does.

  152. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 6:21 am
    Now, Taroku...just because there`s nothing to support it, doesn`t mean it would die off quickly...that`s why we still have Creationism. Hell, that`s why we have religion of any kind.
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    July 9, 2008 at 6:46 am
    Lol he should have explained how the actual evolution happens through mutation and natural selection. Some lesser minds think that we think dinosaurs actually "suddenly gave birth to birds", like this example here:

    "THIS IS STUPID! HOW CAN A MONKEY GIVE BURTH TO A HUMAN? HUH DUMBASSES? I DONT SEE BIRDS GIVING BIRTH TO ALIGATORS DO YOU?"

    Note the ALL CAPS, a definite sign of the inability to use intellectual argumentation to overrule the primal instinct of anger.
    This may because there may be no valid intellectual argument to prove creationism.

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2008 at 7:38 am
    Kairobert, it would generally help if you had the attention span to read to the end of his post.
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    gerdoggie Male 30-39
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    July 9, 2008 at 9:41 am
    The only problem we have now with human evolution is how slow it is going to happen. We care for the weak, sick, and dumb and keep them alive to breed more of the same. In nature these individuals die off leaving a stronger breed. With humans the gene pool is getting weaker instead of stronger.
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    gorgokid333 Male 13-17
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    July 9, 2008 at 9:43 am
    I dont agree with a bit of it, and I dont feel like argueing. but it was still a cool looking vid
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
    4225 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 9:44 am
    malerie and sickle cells? Evolutrion
    Adapting to higher altidtude? Evolution
    Skin color? Evolution

    You want to go in deph and posgts nicelosg posts primetimekin?

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    billcosby Male 18-29
    49 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 9:53 am
    Human plantaris muscle versus primate plantaris muscle. In humans it is vestigial. If you cut it in half, there would be no effect on our walking ability. But primates need it to climb. If we didn`t evolve from a common ancestor why would an Intelligent Designer even bother to put that in our bodies? Same with our auricular muscles.
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    Triskele Female 18-29
    215 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm
    Lies! This is how evolution really came about: One retarded fish-monkey came out of the water and had buttsex with another retarded fish-monkey, then they had more retarded fish-monkeys, which freakishly evolved into retarded monkey-humans. Learn to watch South Park instead of the insidious lies the Discovery Channel tells you.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    July 9, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    Fish didn`t evolve directly from polyps; There was a stage in between that...
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
    4225 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    What I want to know is,

    where the hell did the idea iof an ape giving birth to a human vcome from?

    Seriopusly, what you have to know is that these were all steps, like miutations. Some guy didn`t just come along and go, HUMANS CAME FROM MONKETS!!

    And also, monkeys have tails, apes don`t.

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    Tetramino Male 13-17
    62 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 4:14 pm
    Carl Sagan was a genius. I loved watching Cosmos when it was on the science channel. He`s an excellent writer, too. I kinda like his voice, it sounds smart, heh.
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    RzrBlade Male 13-17
    24 posts
    July 9, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    ...wonder what life would be like if other `species` of humans didnt die out....?
    We would be the smart ones , and then there would be some super strength ppl living next door.

    And id love to know what we will evole into in another 400 million years......if we dont die out that is.

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    blackbum4me Male 18-29
    35 posts
    July 10, 2008 at 12:44 pm
    i liked the last sentence alot "human stand on ONE branch but now we effect the future of every branch of this 400 billion yeard old tree"

    think about it , peace out

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    Ghostofme16 Female 18-29
    386 posts
    July 10, 2008 at 12:45 pm
    drating idiots
    Monkeys didnt give birth to humans, they slowly changed over THOUSANDS of year
    Its not like it can just decide in the wound that it will change...

    Like flying fish... a fish didnt just give birth to one that could fly.
    Their bodies slowly evolved like that so they could survive by catching food above water...

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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    July 10, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    "...evidence doesn`t mean proof as something can have no evidence and still be true."

    Except that in your 360 layup example, evidence does exist but it`s only available to you. It is true to you because you witnessed it, but as far as everyone else is concerned, it didn`t happen. This analogy doesn`t carry over to the existence of God, because evidence of a god is available to no one and therefore no one can justifiably regard it as truth in that light.

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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    July 10, 2008 at 7:05 pm
    ^^ Catbarf, blackbum fleeced your avatar!
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    Nazarene Male 50-59
    187 posts
    July 10, 2008 at 10:21 pm
    How did this "primordial soup" come to have a multitude of different amino acids waiting around to make a cell?
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    alice_x Female 18-29
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    July 14, 2008 at 2:03 am
    lmfao Polish_Lacey
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    itsdrew Male 13-17
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    July 22, 2008 at 11:03 pm
    that, was tight.
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    AntiHero94 Female 13-17
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    July 24, 2008 at 10:03 pm
    holy shyte that was brilliant
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    1williamsg Male 18-29
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    October 21, 2008 at 11:29 am
    random button brings up a super cool old gem of a post

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