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I don`t think that this change is "political correctness." Political correctness most often replaces an accurate term with a euphemism (e.g. termination instead of abortion).
This is the reverse: the city decided to create MORE accurate signs. Wouldn`t it be nice if every sign you saw as you drive around was actually accurate?
I`m female, but not a feminist. Sure, women should have equal rights, but getting pissy over a sign is too much. >.>
Actually, as a working woman, I`m just trying to pay my bills. I could give a f*ck less if I`m respected for working.
Nah, we only need your sperm. You need not be present. ;)
Who wrote the letter and worked for the artsy-fartsy magazine? The man?
Oh look, there is a woman in the video. Imagine that!
You want to get into a pointless argument?Lets see you give life without my dick.
The tiny group of insane wackjobs bitching about those signs should be forced to pay for new ones.
Or better yet, they should take the cost out of every female workers paycheck, and then lock those workers into a small room with whatever insane bastards thought this was an actual issue.
NOBODY IS OFFENDED BY THIS STUFF YOU INSANE FEMINISTS
Everyone knows MEN stands for MENKIND or humans in general...
That`s the case with the tradesmen who are renovating the houses in my street. Our signs read "Men smoking and lounging around."
oh and of course its in atlanta...AGAIN
So now we should ban Neil Armstrong?
if they changed all words with man to woman, the band men without hats would be noise.
And as I`ve said...the sign is doing a disservice to both genders.
Crack a book or go to a lecture, for the world`s sake.
As far as progress, no, changing that sign wasn`t progress. The signs purpose was, and is, to keep the workers, men or women, from being run over. If a woman sees this sign, and the first thought she thinks is "thats offensive!" and not "I`d better slow down amnd watch out to avoid running over someone," then she is an idiot. Changing the sign was a womans idea, progress`s idea would be people being better drivers as to not need them in the first place.
I think men and women both deserve the dignity of having the sign be gender non-specific. Bottom line. Just because it has been one way for so long doesn`t mean it can`t or shouldn`t change.
...like their head."
Ah, so, insulting men with a neanderthic taunt while saying they can only express their opinions is sarcasm? Unfortunately, it is only sarcasm when the user doesn`t believe what theyre saying and is making an obvious point of that. The word you need to look up is "hypocrite."
See, most men posting here are idiots. However, idiots posting to a display of idiot feminism, thats fine. What feminists don`t realizeis that you can be sexist against men too. Saying that every man is like something, well, have you met every man in the world? Just goes to show you, no matter what you protest, you`re gonna look like an idiot.
So suck it.
Wow Seven1Eight2, I just don`t know how to break this to you. There`s the obvious way of pointing it out to you. The subtle way of just posting this and letting you realize. Such a tough choice. I always have a difficult time deciding how best to call out stupid people.
How is the, "Men at Work" sexist?
It`s a damn sign!
No wonder nobody takes "woman power" seriously..
If women keep doing stupid crap like this, Im growing myself trouser snake and joining the other team.
Indeed! There is not a soul in the world who could perhaps be in a rush, be using a handheld device like a phone or PSP, make a simple spelling error, or accidentally hit too many buttons. Obviously, any spelling error should be seen as a mark of lower intelligence, since as we all know spelling while typing and spelling while writing are entirely synonymous.
"Men are usually incapable of making a point or stating an opinion without sounding like a caveman banging his club against a hard surface."
Your rapier-sharp wit has all the tact and subtlety of a gang rape.
I iz in ur kuntry, startin ma proletariat revolutionz
Men are usually incapable of making a point or stating an opinion without sounding like a caveman banging his club against a hard surface.
...like their head.
The state government spent the money in the first place on the signs. Yes, the state should pay for it.
(forgets how many intellectual morons are in existence currently)
You fellas need to treat yourself to some education.
That kind of closed-minded attitude that suggests emotions and the conveying of them signifies weakness is the root of insanity. And it`s the kind of thing that spawns hate crimes. Read Freud.
I recommend that you do some studying on the archaeology and anthropoolgy of sex and gender. Read Benjamin Alberti. You will learn that our contemporary gender standards are not innate biologically. Everyone likes to cite caveman days about the "natural order of things" and it`s not true. There were even native American tribes that sported third and fourth genders. And the first Catholic Weddings were male/male.
Now, I just have one question:
xtkm1x, you have Asperger`s, right?
This is a stupid, stupid point.
There is nothing significantly physically or mentally different between a Christian and a Jew, or a black and a white.
If you think there are no significant differences between men and women... Hoo boy.
I`m not making a blanket statement. There are women that are more than capable. And there are men who are not. But to suggest that both sexes are equally able is just stupid. And on that ground alone, I think a `Men at work` sign is perfectly justified.
You`re = You are and Your = possession, |V|edic, as in "You`re a moron, shut your mouth."
also the reason i dont cry is because i CAN`T like most guys i lost the ability to cry at about 9 or 10 because men start holding in their emotions around that age because as they are becoming men they want to seem manly, and after holding in your emotions that long you eventually become literally un-able to expess them.I kinda feel like an ass though because even at funerals i literally CANNOT cry.yeah. anyway.its a sign, get over it!
Do you even read my posts?
I`m saying the woman was acting like it was some intentional ("diabolical") plan that men made to oppress women.
I said I don`t care whether the sign changes or not.
So stop calling me a misogynist when that term has a far stronger meaning than you probably understand. I don`t view women as unequal, I`m just annoyed how you seem to attack me personally (e.g. "a young southerner", "your own misogyny projecting) when you don`t even take the time to fully understand my posts before replying.
...which sort of sounds like a cat noise...hence the humor in it.
"The earliest known culture to have females wear miniskirts were the Duan Qun Miao, which literally meant "short skirt Miao" in Chinese. This was in reference to the short miniskirts "that barely cover the buttocks" worn by women of the tribe, and which were "probably shocking" to Han Chinese observers in medieval and early modern time"
Where in the clip is she acting diabolical? I didn`t see any yelling. No fist pounding, no insults. She brings up a good point about the whole "what if it was whites working or jews working?"
It`s an UPDATE. Obviously for the "diabolical" woman and her magazine, it was also business and a point of getting facetime for her and her magazine. Who cares? You sit there and say YOU don`t care...yet you`re taking all the time to respond to my posts to try to continue to make your point all while making it seem as if you view women as equal, which you clearly don`t.
The only shackles of gender identity are the ones you impose yourself. When I was a kid, I played with cars, planes, lego and guns not because I was forced, but because thats what I liked playing with. Thats what it means to be male. Thats just the way it is.
Finally, `men` dont complain about any of this because its not really an issue at all.
...wait a minute. Who can that be knocking at my door? Go Away! Don`t come `round here no more!
It doesn`t affect me at all whether the sign says "CRAZY MOFOS AHEAD" or "Workers Ahead". As long as it tells me to slow down so I don`t hit somebody. It`s just irritating how the woman in this video makes it sound like it was some diabolical plan to oppress every woman that drives by that sign for however long possible.
Also, the general population fails to realize that equality of any sort will never occur, ever. It`s true.
You get no respect for crying. you get no respect for wearing pink (unless your a douchebag, and so are your friends) and we don`t wear skirts because male upskirt cam sites would be made, thus destroying the internet.
and why CAN`T men wear skirts? `cept in scotland.
Masculinity has become a neutral condition in our society. It`s a blanket term for humanity as a whole and a standard for the norm. This reinforces a gender binary. Gender binaries promote inequality, coerced conformity, and intolerance of things outside of the norm.
By having things like "Men at work" Both genders falling under the two-sex model get slighted. Women are seen as abnormal and men are ignored.
Maybe if we start getting rid of crap like "men at work" or "manhole" and other binary terms, we can open up new opportunities for humans to explore their world without the shackles of a socially constructed gender identity.
The `feminists` have been pretty vocal about what they want, but what about you men? How come you can`t play with dolls without Dad worrying you`re a fruit. And why can`t you wear pink? Or a skirt? Why can`t you cry?
I`m not against the change in any way. I never said "This is dumb let`s keep it the same".
I haven`t even assumed that you`re a feminist in any way.
I`m just saying that the person who brought this up is really overreacting by calling it "subtle discrimination".
And yes, it does have to do with equality. Because this Pink company wants to be EQUAL with men being noticed in the construction signs.
Despite this, I am not against this `road sign change`.
or maybe the previous message the signs tried to convey was that it was okay to hit women workers?
I weep for the public school system.
well, that`s how i see it.
One thing a woman can do that a man can`t:
Express an opinion without sounding like a neanderthal.
Oh yeah...and carry and nurture children... I`m sorry, but that trumps your "heavy lifting" qualities that you claim men posses. Giving and sustaining life is the single most important job in the world.
So suck it.
This has EVERYTHING to do with equality, silly.
it`s like in movies you see male construction workers whistling at girls, right?
it wouldn`t be as funny if it was girls whistling at guys walking by. that just doesn`t make sense.
Can you honestly say that more than half of all women who see a MEN AT WORK sign are even remotely offended by it?
It`s not about satisifying all women because not all women even care. It`s about shutting up a few individuals who look for things to bitch and complain about.
and to the person who posted:"oh god! the liberals are breaking into our right of street signs! F cking fascists!"
You can`t compare liberals to fascists, you idiot. Don`t use a word when you don`t know the meaning.
It`s only offensive it you MAKE it offensive, that`s what people don`t get.
I think this nutcase read way to far into something that didn`t matter to anyone but her and then caused a scene.
She should go hide in a corner and hang her head in shame for being a fool...
It`s not passive-aggressive discrimination, that`s just you WANTING to be aggravated by something.
Besides, whenever the gender is unknown, in every language the male form is used. So this sign isn`t even sexist. Get over it.
[email protected] Men At Work.
what does the abused housewife do when she gets home from her domestic violence meeting?
a sandwich, if she knows whats good for her!
(i didn`t mean to make any women mad, don`t be THAT guy)
Wonder if they`re gonna put dresses on some of them now.
did you know they want to make it HERstory?
Get a life! THAT`S NOT SEXISM!!!!
Seiously, PCness pisses me off. Some womqn are too feminine.
I loled at your comment AKappy, but last time I checked you said your dagger was nothing but a pocket knife.
I don`;t know if you`ll get what I mean by knife...
Men at work.Women making them sandwiches.
Seems about right to me.
man referred to all humansThe female version of it would be, "WOman"The male version of it would use, "WERE something"
anyway, the word "woman" is still used, and people stopped using "were" The only time that is used today is in the word , "werewolf"
so yeah, what happened was, the word women remained and the word for males fell out of use. So, yeah using the word men is meant to be sexist. Spending money on changing wording is just a waste, and it is just serves to undermind modern feminism. Such arguments are just overbearing and have little real effect on society.
Fortunately, our line of "Hungry Man" TV-Dinners are still available to oppress these meek little vagina-ridden creatures! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I think the worse thing to see besides a woman being made fun of or put down because she is a woman, is seeing the women accept this. It`s not acceptable, I`m sorry to say.
I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars were wasted on this absurd PC-attempt to `improve the world`...
comparing jew and whites to men and woman is comparing apples to oranges
we have bigger muscles, and theres still WAY more men construction workers
don`t these crying bitches have better things to do like clean my streaked underwear?
I have a dirty mind.
This whole PC crap pisses me off
They`re all ugly walruses.