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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
    2582 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:34 pm
    Link: Well-Placed Liberal Paranoia - Remember kids, if the ticket is fully filled out, you`re allowed to not sign it until it is. Know your rights.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15782 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm
    Ahhh I can`t trust anything anymore! *flails in a circle*
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    KeVsTeR2475 Male 13-17
    1843 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:51 pm
    im mad enough today, the taser was unnecesary, he used no kind of force and the man was about to do as he commanded anyway. the girl shouldve gotten something from the car and hit his nuts.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    What the hell...
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    Dextrine Male 18-29
    483 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    yeah, i couldn`t hear crap....
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    pomokey Male 18-29
    95 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 7:59 pm
    man i cant stand people like that.. just give him your license and registration.. seriously.. why do you have to be a butt about it.. The cop remained really clam throughout that. I was impressed
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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
    319 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:01 pm
    Can we all pool some cash together to send KoalaMeatPie to school. I really can`t make heads nor tails of his clip description.
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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
    909 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    "man i cant stand people like that.. just give him your license and registration.. seriously.. why do you have to be a butt about it.. The cop remained really clam throughout that. I was impressed"

    Because he has a right to know what he`s getting a ticket for. The officer was obstructing his rights by not:

    Telling him what he`s being ticketed for
    Tasing without a reason
    Refusing to read him his rights

    That officer should be shot in the head and left to die.

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    richoricho Male 40-49
    1038 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    This copper is in soo much trouble.
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    are7era Male 18-29
    562 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    Go USA.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    June 29, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    We all new what was going to happen. The driver was going to whip out his gun and shoot the officer in the face 6 times for pulling him over. Don`t lie, you knew it going to happen too.
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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
    909 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:03 pm
    Oh and this is a repost. Twice =.=.

    "We all new what was going to happen. The driver was going to whip out his gun and shoot the officer in the face 6 times for pulling him over. Don`t lie, you knew it going to happen too."

    Thats what he SHOULD have done instead of getting out.

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
    2076 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:08 pm
    This case was reviewed and the cop got off scott free.

    No surprise there.

    Cops look horrible on the internet btw.

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    mjfoxman Male 18-29
    336 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    "30,000,000,000,000" thats a poo load of cars
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    ZMDalph Male 13-17
    216 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    ^^^ thats alot of cars
    thats like... 5 thousand cars... per person on earth (assuming there are aound 6 billion. thats right, 6 billion, correct?)
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    Dylan5121 Male 13-17
    955 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:10 pm
    That was stupid what basically happened I think was, there was a speed limit increase and he was getting ticketed for being under the speed limit before he went passed the sign were the speed limit comes into effect, the ticket didn`t say what it was for on it, he refused to sign it the cop then put him under arrest for him exercising his rights. Then it went down hill from there.
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    13unny Female 18-29
    43 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:13 pm
    He has rights.
    He knows them.
    The cop has his panties in a bunch due to the fact this man is smarter then him, so he thinks he is of higher power. We are all human beings, and if you have rights that the cops are not following under the law they study they are in the wrong.
    I`d sue the cop, I hope he gets a leave from the force for a few months at least.
    I`ve dated Two cops, they are mostly all self centered basters who think they know all. Point in case.
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    woozlez Male 13-17
    74 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:14 pm
    If you pause at 8:37 the clouds spell out sex
    XD
    That cop didn`t give him a chance to read the sign let alone react to it, the cop`s car was in the way of his vision
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    bochamockado Male 18-29
    580 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:16 pm
    Sounded to me that the cop pulled him over for speeding in the beginning, obviously the man didn`t know that though. There had to be a way out besides the `ol tazer solution.
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    evanking Male 18-29
    689 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:18 pm
    omg human rights oppression terrible internet liberals police brutality social issues wahhhhhhhhhhh
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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:20 pm
    That cop is a criminal and should be thrown in jail for the rest of his life for abuse of his office. He is obviously a psychopath and extremely dangerous. WTF is this country coming to? You cannot arrest someone for refusing to sign a contract and the taser was absolutely without a doubt excessive force. Tasers are deadly weapons and that guy was not a threat at all by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Marram Male 18-29
    316 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:24 pm
    Okay...um...the guy getting pulled over? Yeah, he didn`t have to show the cop anything until the cop told him why he was being pulled over. You have the right to know why you were pulled over and the right to see proper tags of an officer before giving them your license and registration. And, oh gosh. Miranda`s Rights weren`t even read. Yeah, I hope the guy went to court because the cop would have be suspended / lost his badge for violating these fundamental principals. And the cop had a legit reason for pulling him over...a speed limit is in effect upon passing the sign. You should slown down before the sign. That`s why they have "REDUCED SPEED AHEAD" signs so that you know to let your lead foot off the gas...
    I side with the guy on this even though the cop had a good reason for pulling him over.
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    seamonkeyX Male 18-29
    69 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    i was kind of surprised there was no cursing througout the whole video...
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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
    1145 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:32 pm
    "So`s ah tazer`d him!"
    "Yup, good for you..."

    Justice at work.

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    kenny_f Male 13-17
    1825 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:33 pm
    i`ve said it before, and i`ll say it again.
    fu*k da police.
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    idontknow951 Male 18-29
    909 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:34 pm
    "If you pause at 8:37 the clouds spell out sex"

    Uhh... No.

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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    The prosecutors office has this case now, there just might be justice.. but I doubt it.


    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2245...

    Col. Lance Davenport, a highway patrol supervisor, said, "There was, in our opinion, a lack of communication on the part of Trooper Gardner."

    And he could face discipline as a result. That could mean anything from a letter of reprimand up to termination.

    "We are worried about public confidence, and that maybe the confidence with the Highway Patrol, with the Department of Public Safety and law enforcement in general was damaged here..." explained Duncan.

    Meanwhile, Trooper Gardner is still on leave, primarily to keep him safe. He`s received numerous anonymous threats.

    Right now, UHP doesn`t know what the consequences for him are going to be because this is still under investigation. Officials are, however, turning the investigation over to the Utah Atto

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    GatoCap Male 18-29
    20 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:40 pm
    The camera stops around 6:31, right as he`s saying i have a right to know. I don`t know much about these videos, but can they like, do that?
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3371 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:41 pm
    See....everytime I see this crap on the net, whilst I do often feel sorry for the individual involved, I cant say I`m suprised! You get douchebags like evanking having a pop at liberals.Its all fun and games till it`s you on the reciving end kiddo!

    I`m staying in the UK. At least I know thats unlikely to happen here, and if it did, the policeman would be fired at the very least.

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    Majin19 Male 18-29
    27 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:42 pm
    Sometimes I really admire the police. And sometimes they`re drating non-nice individuals and go on power trips like this.
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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    Tell them what you think:

    http://highwaypatrol.utah.gov/contact_uhp.html

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    label_me_plz Male 18-29
    27 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:46 pm
    So far all the guys I`ve known to become cops that I went to high school with were either socially inept retards or heavy cocaine users.
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    DrJack Male 13-17
    184 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:54 pm
    I admire the wife/girlfriend. Had I been her, I would have refused to get in the car and probably been shocked by the taser as well. Why do police officers have to be, often times, so unjust. As Ron Paul said, we may not be a police state yet - but we are becoming one!
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 8:58 pm
    Figures theres alot of canadians posting on this video. After reading all these comments the pure stupidity of them made me finally make an account here.
    1st of all, the time to fight a ticket is NOT in the officers face, its during the court hearing. 2nd, Always follow an officers order IMMEDIATLY, or these things will happen and you will be charged with resisting arrest. And finally the tazer WAS authorized as the kid walked up to the officer with a tough guy attitude. He was well within 21 feet which only needs 1.2 seconds to pull a blade and cut a person. Its so nice that these liberals who preech peace and love want this officer "shot in the head". Really brings out your true colors. Oh 1 more thing....to hell with canada (amaericas littler brother who doesnt have a clue and just gets laughed at.)
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    Josh2601 Male 13-17
    97 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    Both of these people are stupid. The man for not giving the officer what he asked and cop for overreacting. Why can`t people just comply and get things done. Things would go so much faster. *sigh*
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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:01 pm
    What if the officer orders you to kill yourself? Would you do it? Cops say stupid poo all the time, I`m not going to do it just because they are cops.
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:05 pm
    "What if the officer orders you to kill yourself? Would you do it? Cops say stupid poo all the time, I`m not going to do it just because they are cops."

    Then its on video and killing him is lawful...Where did this come from anyways...i didnt hear the officer say kill yourself or lay on the road in front of traffic...i heard step out of the car and turn around. Idiot didnt do that and got way to close. Stupid hurts.

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    Joolin Male 18-29
    1003 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:08 pm
    Man.. I dont think there was anything right about that video. The guy getting arrested was being way roosterier than he needed to be - he seemed like the kind of guy who basically knows his rights and thinks he knows how to properly stand up to a cop, but just gets flustered and difficult when a real situation comes up. He was asking all the wrong questions - the cop told him many times that he was pulled over for speeding, but he kept asking like he had amnesia or something. The cop on the other hand, also didnt know what he was doing - the man getting arrested, whether he had any sense of what he was doing, was perfectly within the law as far as his requests. The officer was very impatient, and was obviously just trying to finish the whole thing up as fast as possible, even if it meant totally ignoring the guy and forcing arrest. I really dont think there was a good guy in that scenario.
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    pomokey Male 18-29
    95 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    the first words out of the cos mouth were "you were going a little fast back there" so he already stated why he was pulling the guy over. The guy then refused to provide identification. Things can only go downhill from there. and as sgthartman42 already pointed out, the time to contest a ticket is during your court hearing.
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    laMigra77 Male 30-39
    292 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:16 pm
    I would`ve went for the baton in leau of the tazer. That driver is a dumbass for not following orders. The cop is only protecting himself from the unknown.
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    yvw103 Male 18-29
    14 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:31 pm
    well the cop was in the right. He asked the man to do something and the man declined that right there is reason enough to use the tazer. Also unless a person is being interogated about a crime they dont have to have their rights read to them. I think the cop could have waited a little longer before using the tazer but in his line of work he must come a cross many people and you never know who can do something crazy so its always safty first.
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    yvw103 Male 18-29
    14 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:34 pm
    That officer should be shot in the head and left to die.
    posted by idontknow951

    your just dumb...

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    yvw103 Male 18-29
    14 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:34 pm
    well the cop was in the right. He asked the man to do something and the man declined that right there is reason enough to use the tazer. Also unless a person is being interogated about a crime they dont have to have their rights read to them. I think the cop could have waited a little longer before using the tazer but in his line of work he must come a cross many people and you never know who can do something crazy so its always safty first.
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    Cayday Female 18-29
    143 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm
    The cop was not in the right, what are you talking about yvw? Seriously, there is no need to use violence in a non-violent situation. There is no reason that he should have whipped out his tazer. The cop SHOULD have read him his rights, he SHOULD have notified the man of his crime, he SHOULD not have tazered him. Why would you sign a ticket that doesn`t say what you did wrong?

    Not only did he tazer him, he was all roostery about it later. That cop is not justifiable at all.

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    joshp Male 13-17
    17 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm
    lmao!!..
    when he asked him to read him his rights
    he said "do u want another hit with this?!.."
    haha. what an ass.
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    Neagle Male 30-39
    1407 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:40 pm
    Always sign your ticket and save your copy and the argument for the judge. Gather your evidence later when the officer leaves the scene. He left out information on the ticket, present it to the judge.

    "Officials say they held the news conference today because they are very concerned and want the public to feel safe with troopers out there."

    To late; damage done.

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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:47 pm
    sgthartman- no stupid isn`t painful, but it should be; that cop wouldn`t have been able to get to work that day due to the debilitating pain.

    The point is sir, (which you are pretending to miss), is that you DO NOT have to follow any order an officer gives you if it is unreasonable. A good officer would have explained the situation, his rights and options, and not resorted to the pussy ass passive aggressive taser tactic. Not only is it extremely lazy and power-tripping it`s unprofessional and unbecoming an officer of the law.

    If officers can`t handle being polite and reasonable with people they should find another line of work. Like flipping burgers; which has a similar education and intelligence requirement.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:48 pm
    "Can we all pool some cash together to send KoalaMeatPie to school. I really can`t make heads nor tails of his clip description."

    Lol, I read it ten times and I still didn`t get it.

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    bob_is_king Male 13-17
    9 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:52 pm
    yvw103: "your just dumb..."

    umm... anyone?

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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:53 pm
    Look, if the Ticket was Unjustified, ANY CITIZEN can dispute it *IN COURT*! I can damn near guarantee that this would have been dropped by the judge. DO NOT argue with a Police Officer on the side of the Road. They are already apprehensive as hell because MOST of the People they deal with are Breaking the Law. They were both Civil, the thing to do is contest the Ticket.
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    XP your right about not having to sign an unfinished document...the officer will most likely arrest you but drop the charges (then you might sue). But "sir" your pretending to miss the point, that this kid did not follow the officers lawful order to turn around and still approached him. Hes lucky he took a taser instead of a skull cracking baton.
    Im the last person to defend most officers as i believe they tend to violate our constitutional rights, but if im doing a job where i deal with the scum of society then i will not react well to anyone invading my personal space, and not following orders.
    Also do a little research about officer education. College courses are required as well as long difficult training before you go on the streets. (even then they are not without an experianced partner for 1 or 2 years.)
    XP you are nothing but a cop basher...please think before you type.
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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:03 pm
    I have done the research, most departments require a high school diploma or equivalent and physical ability to do the job. There are no legal requirements or certifications to be a police officer.

    I would hardly call this guy lucky, he ran into and unreasonable power tripping non-nice individual with a badge. How is that lucky exactly?

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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:05 pm
    Oh, they also have to get a C on a test. (or a D if they were trained as professional killers in the military)
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:07 pm
    Actually there are MANY certifications to be an officer. From firearms to 1st aid. I can see this is going nowhere with you as you do not use logic. Im sure your voting for obama in hope of change :p. I can only hope that when you run into the law for any reason your situation goes better than this kids.
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    hedonistic Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:11 pm
    All of you need to think twice about this gentleman`s job. He is paid to do a job you are most likely unwilling and unqualified to do. You probably wouldn`t want to do it, and it is easy to question his actions and behavior because you deem them unfair and a violation of that moron driver`s "rights" (loosely used). How many times have you pulled someone over and wondered if they were going to be armed and mad? How many times have you, in the course of your job, wondered if your next interaction would be with a hopped-up felon, or angered spouse moved to violence? People DO have rights; however, put yourself in his shoes - the manner in which they interacted with law enforcement will probably played a heavy role in how they were treated in kind. Be a prick, receive like treatment.
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    hedonistic Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:11 pm
    The blanket stereotyping I am reading about law enforcement in general after this assessment of one video moves me to think you all a bunch of armchair lawyers, with only the most elementary notion of the bs a law officer has to deal with on a daily basis.
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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:17 pm
    Um, that is simply not true.

    http://careers.stateuniversity.com/pages/705/Police-Officer.html

    I am not going to waste my time with you since you don`t use facts or have an awareness of reality. Your nothing but a cop apologist.

    When this jerk loses his job you will probably still be saying he did the right thing. Cops are not above the law and they abuse their power way too often in this country.

    You are one of these asshats who thought Iraq was responsible for 9-11 and that they had nukes. I argued with people like you all the time when that poo was going down and now they are nowhere. All the people I argued with disappeared. Funny how when you are proven wrong you`re never around to admit how stupid you were. This is one of those cases I`m sure.

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    Deadman3215 Male 18-29
    536 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:23 pm
    I`m a little curious as to how this video even made it`s way onto the internet. According to the article from xp it was released onto the internet about the same time as the incident was uncovered. So, the officer in this video put it onto youtube?
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    Zoto Male 18-29
    273 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:24 pm
    The tasering of the man was very unnecessary. The driver should have been notified of the conditions under which he was being given the ticket and the consequences which could have happened if he did not sign the ticket. The officer should have been more informative and should not have tasered the driver.
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:29 pm
    Lol here we go with the conspiracy theorist. Why dont you join up as a cop and clean up the department if you think its so flawed. And i MUST be an appologist since im sticking up for 1 cop, and would not have a problem shooting another who puts my life or the life of others at risk. But you just want to tug at those emotional strings ;). By the way...I know you masterminded the plane crashes on 9-11...so watch out....i may not be a cop but i can still bust your ass lol. Oh and YES HE DID THE RIGHT THING, and he will not lose his job...investigations after an incident are like flys on a horses ass.
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    hedonistic Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:35 pm
    XP: "When this cop loses his job" (calls for speculation)

    XP: "You will probably still be saying..." (calls for speculation)

    XP: "Cops...abuse their power way too often" (no reference to number of incidents...probably just conjured up out of anger and watching one too many episodes of Law & Order)

    "You are one of these asshats" (well, now we know the argument has become desperate by this point)

    I almost feel sorry for scthartman42 having to read through it...but it`s funny

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    CBFLATLINE Male 40-49
    147 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 10:56 pm
    UHHH XP,

    Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

    I think you are a lot of talk and no action.

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    kenny_f Male 13-17
    1825 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 11:51 pm
    deadman, it was probably brought up in court, and it was probably leaked by someone in one of the offices.
    honestly though, to even stuff like this out, i just sneak up to cops and tazer them. its quite fun. then i run away and have a dear old laugh.
    its times like these that make me wish anarchy was possible. oh well, as usual, fight the power, don`t listen to anything you hear, fuc% republicans
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    kenny_f Male 13-17
    1825 posts
    June 29, 2008 at 11:53 pm
    hedon:do a job you are most likely unwilling and unqualified to do(calls for speculation)
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    razzzledazzl Female 13-17
    564 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 12:12 am
    "Can we all pool some cash together to send KoalaMeatPie to school. I really can`t make heads nor tails of his clip description"

    Agreed.

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    uniquename Male 18-29
    119 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 12:20 am
    i have seen this clip before.. its like deja vu.. now where did i see it.. oh yeah.. it was here.. just a couple months ago... like everything else on here anymore..
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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 12:51 am
    How come everything on IAB is at least a year old on youtube. I am still bored. I agree with uniquename, this site sucks more than ever.
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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 12:51 am
    time to go smoke some weed
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:13 am
    The_Maddog is living in a dreamworld of anti-American bigotry.

    The London Metropolitan Police have a long and sordid history of brutality and racism. Most of them are pricks! Birmingham, Yorkshire, Liverpool...they`ve just as bad, and most, if not all, of the complaints against The Ol` Bill go unheeded, or are settled on the side of the police.

    Wake up.

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    kenny_f Male 13-17
    1825 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:16 am
    i hate to ruin it, but there were 69 comments before i commented.
    that is all
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    ZenGen Male 18-29
    16 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:29 am
    Why is it that whenever a story like this breaks everyone has to blame LIBERALS or CONSERVATIVES?

    Its hillarious.

    There does not have to be propaganda in everything.

    Both parties are to blame in this event. The driver was being an non-nice individual, and rebeling against authority just for the sake of rebeling.

    He was driving a gas-guzzling suv, I dont think the $90 ticket would send him to the poorhouse.

    Yes this cop was uneducated with the law, but judges are not, shutup, take the ticket, then tell the judge your story.

    Guys like the driver are non-nice individuals, he walked away after being told to put his hands on the vehicle, that is grounds for action by the cop, whether or not the arrest itself was just.

    You can call what the cop did a "power trip" but the driver was also going off on a "power trip" by exercising his knowledge for no justified reason.

    Unless you have some very nice tits, you can`t get out of a ticket by arguing with the c

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    fleafly Male 18-29
    268 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:33 am
    The driver indeed had a right to know what speed he was going exactly. What he did NOT have the right to do is disobey the officer`s orders. He also did not have the right to place his hands in his pockets as he tried walking away.

    If he would have only stopped acting like a little punk and signed the ticket, I`m sure he wouldn`t have ended up jail.

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    kcpd2050 Male 40-49
    330 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:35 am
    HA HA HA HA HA ....Here`s a little law lesson from a cop.(Yes I am one) When you get a speeding ticket you are actually under arrest. Signing the ticket is a signature bond. You are signing the ticket promising that you will pay the fine or go to court. If you do not sign the ticket you have to bound out ie...go to jail and be booked in. When an officer tells you to put your hands behind your back and you say "no" and walk towards an open car door (which could contain any number of weapons in it) your stupid ass gets tazed. That retard got exactly what he deserved.
    The girl was probably screaming because she realized what a dumbass she had for a boyfriend. Have a nice day and don`t speed. LOL.
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    blackbum4me Male 18-29
    35 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:39 am
    Do you want to switch job from cop to homeless? 10 min instruction video right here.
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    SpoonFork Male 30-39
    1265 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:44 am
    Do whatever I say or you`re under arrest.

    Yeah right.

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    DragonSageX Male 18-29
    193 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 3:06 am
    I thought i was the only one who noticed the guy putting his hand in his pocket, looking like he was trying to either reach for something or conceal it. I dunno. From my 23 years experience of watching Cops, it seemed completely reasonable.
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    kairobert Male 18-29
    1626 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 3:14 am
    The cops in the radio sounds like the drating Combine.

    Its an omen...

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    hedonistic Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 4:11 am
    It`s old news now, but as for your observation

    "hedon:do a job you are most likely unwilling and unqualified to do(calls for speculation)"

    The mere fact that a majority of you are objecting to law enforcement as a whole shows that you`d be unwilling to do the job (yuck, be a cop?) XP already asserts that we`re all above the law.

    As for unqualified? Unless most of you have approx 90 semester hours of college, are 21, can pass a rigorous physical training testing, and can pass a drug screen/credit check, you`re probably not going to qualify as a trooper.

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    Lorodiam Male 18-29
    189 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 5:14 am
    I love the way loads of people jump to the whole "we have rights" rubbish. Yes most of us know how the law works and the rights we have in each one of our individual countries. The refusing to accept the ticket thing is fine... but when he`s asked to step out of the car and starts walking away from the cop he is just asking for trouble... and although getting Tazed is a bit extreme he was certainly gonna get either that or slammed against the car and cuffed anyway. He should have just accepted that he was getting arrested, gone to the station and called his solicitor used his witness (ie. girlfriend) and then proceeded to sue the cop for neglegence. No need to get tazed no need for all the shouting and hassle. I know this through experience... on the road or in the street face to face with the cops your rights mean absolutely nothing!! And most of the time theres nothing you can do about it... the cop will wake away scott free... get used to it... it sucks... but thats life!!
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    newbie4sale Female 18-29
    102 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 5:21 am
    Wow. Can`t believe the number of cop apologists on here. Yes, the man was being uncooperative and he should`ve obeyed the officer when he told him to put his hands behind his back. Ignoring the officer, putting his hands in his pocket and walking back to the car was another wrong decision.

    *However*....All that mess could`ve been avoided if only the cop had told him what he was being pulled over for. There was a failure in communication at the very start of the video, and everything just started escalating from there. If this is the way they handle every situation, then no wonder most people view cops as power-tripping asshats.

    Communication is a *very* important skill no matter what line of work you do, and especially important if your profession specializes in dealing with uncooperative people. Officer Gardener here fail at it, and that`s why he should be fired.

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    newbie4sale Female 18-29
    102 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 5:34 am
    Sorry for the double post, but I also have to point out that there is a big deal of difference between *having* the right to tazer uncooperative people and exercising that right at every available chance. I see many ways this cop could`ve handled this situation, and he chose the worst possible one.
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    lemitten Female 18-29
    8 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 6:15 am
    ughhh. this makes me sad for the world.
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    DoubleBuck Male 40-49
    11 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 6:16 am
    Both were in the wrong but the only one that has training is the officer and he failed when he did not tell the man that by not signing he would be arrested,that is when he lost control of the situation.
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    RandyTheFool Male 18-29
    820 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 6:28 am
    What I can`t, for the life of me, understand is how the cop expected him either to speed up or slow down within that nanosecond of passing the sign into the "40 MPH" section? I mean, really. There`s got to be a little leeway between speed limit sections to get to the appropriate speed required. If it were any other way, people would be slamming on their brakes right as they pass a sign or stomping on the gas to get the exact speed right then and there.

    And, while that guy may have been within his right to ask questions and not sign the ticket agreeing to the fine (which he can not sign all he wants, doesn`t mean he instantly gets to take off and never be bothered about it.) that cop was fully within his rights to do what he did. The cop says "get out of the car"... not "Get out of the car and sneak around behind me while I`m not looking". Some people are just too stupid to understand that isn`t a good thing to do to a person in that profession.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 7:45 am
    Not one person so far seems to actually know any of your rights. As I said the last time this was posted:

    You are under arrest even if your rights have not been read. The only thing the reading of rights does is allow things you say to be used in evidence, otherwise they can`t.

    You have the right not to sign, and he has the right to arrest you when you break the law. the reason you signt he ticket is to not be arrested. It is effectively "I will show up in court to contest this".

    NOT "I confess I am guilty".

    That`s why you sign. You sign to not be arrested after breaking the law. Look up the old link on IAB for the links I put in the last time.

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    Flashpacker Male 18-29
    672 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 7:46 am
    Bah, it wouldnt load for more than 4 minutes for me=(
    anyways.. that made me angry, why is it impossible to talk with a dumbass american cop without being freakin` tasered??=S
    imo the guy wasnt any threat to the cop or anything, so why bring up the taser, and give him like a quarter of a second to obey him before he melted his drating brain..
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 8:24 am
    sgthartman42- seems you dont have any problems living in a police state. good for you mean person
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    Lorodiam Male 18-29
    189 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 8:26 am
    In the yanks defence it isn`t just "dumbass american cops"... i`m from Ireland and a cop here was going to arrest my friend for responding "violently" (ie. swearing) to question the cop was asking. The twist to this story is that my mate was a bit worked up having just been assaulted by a large group of guys who were happily walking away laughing whilst the cop was doing nothing... sorry whilst the cop was threatening to arrest my assaulted and bloody friend...
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    ImNoGod Male 18-29
    1149 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 8:34 am
    Because he has a right to know what he`s getting a ticket for. The officer was obstructing his rights by not:

    Telling him what he`s being ticketed for
    Tasing without a reason
    Refusing to read him his rights

    That officer should be shot in the head and left to die. He told the guy multiple times it was for speeding. Watch the video you idiot.

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    bearfinger Male 18-29
    13 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 9:15 am
    That guy is a total idiot. If you don`t act like a jackass, mouth off to a cop and challenge his authority, chances are you won`t have this crap happen to you. Face it, the cop is always gonna win in a situation like this, just take the ticket and go on with your life. And maybe if you act polite, you can go with just a warning.
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    Lusien Male 18-29
    26 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 9:24 am
    The big issue here is that the Taser is not meant to be used to deal with problem citizens. The taser is a "non-lethal" weapon, which should only be used in a situation where an officer would draw his pistol.

    The situation did not warrant a pistol to be drawn and aimed at this man, therefore a taser was equally unwarranted.

    Guidelines for discharging a taser are the following;

    1. Warn the person that if they do not comply they will be tasered.
    2. Ready the weapon and aim at the non complicit person.
    3. warn then once more that they will be tasered if they do not comply.
    4. Tasering may now occur.

    if you watch the video steps 1 through 3 never happen. This is an example of not following procedure, reckless use of force, use of excessive force, and a cop that disgraces what police officers should be.

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    Lusien Male 18-29
    26 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 9:33 am
    I hate this clip, this guy gets off scott free for tasering a guy who was speeding. A traffic violation is punished by assault with a deadly weapon, what`s worse is it`s in front of his wife and kid.

    Tasers should be taken out of the hands of police officers unless proper training and psych evaluations have been passed that would rate them as approved to carry these things.

    Officers use them as a leverage in the lightest of situations. They`ve even tased children. This topic gets to the core of me and i`m sorry for going on like this.

    Bad cop, get him a desk job and be done with it. Reimburse that poor guy for his time and duress and get the tasers out of general police hands.

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    bdiekh2 Male 18-29
    81 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 9:41 am
    officer is a dumb ass
    read him his rights
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    FairySpirit Female 13-17
    16 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 9:44 am
    The cop should of told him what he was being charged for but also the guy should of just given the cop his info then things would of been fine.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 11:08 am
    Oh people, watching cops and "law and order" does not inform you of your "rights."

    1) Cops have authority to issue citations, even ones that turn out to be invalid. Merely signing a ticket is no admission of guilt. The legal recourse is to go to court. Refusing to sign until the cop does what *you* say is no defense. Cops don`t obey commands of citizens, its the other way around.

    2) The real issue here isn`t the ticket - it is the unlawful resistance to detention. When a cop orders you to comply, you comply. If the cop is in the wrong, you prove that in court. You don`t try and flee.

    Instead, this person BEGAN TO WALK AWAY, disobeying a lawful command. At the moment the dude began to walk away, he was resisting arrest, thereby subjecting himself to the use of force to effectuate his seizure.

    Quite often, resisting the detention is worse than the original crime.

    XP, a citation is not a contract.

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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 11:14 am
    Cops have NO obligation to verbally inform you of what you are being ticketed for.

    IN FACT, HE WAS GIVEN LEGAL NOTICE, IT IS ON THE DAMN TICKET!!!!

    And anyone above who says "read him his rights" watches too much TV. As was said, Miranda rights only apply to the use of statements - one can be arrested, processed, charged, and convicted without ever having rights read, so long as they don`t use what you said POST-ARREST. (Anything this guy said pre-arrest remains admissible.)

    BOTTOM LINE: Don`t refuse lawful orders. And even if you suspect a cop is out of line, that is for COURTS to decide - when you cross the line into active resistance to detention or arrest (WALKING AWAY AFTER BEING ORDERED NOT TO) Cops have clear authority to use force.

    What is worse? The cop grabbing the dude, fighting him and having to punch him, maybe getting hurt himself? OR, using a taser to subdue a belligerent person?

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    thelonious Male 40-49
    3278 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 11:38 am
    It`s always nice to see someone else getting tased while you sit there, like at a bad horror movie yelling at the screen "don`t back away like that!". Just assures me that I will never get tased. It`s so obvious how not to get tased. That guy was a tard. And signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt.
    He thought he was really going to argue his way out of the ticket. lol
  98. Profile photo of Lusien
    Lusien Male 18-29
    26 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    The issue here isn`t about compliance, it`s about excessive use of potentially deadly force in a situation that did not warrant it.

    This man was not a danger to anyone, he was presumably going on a highway at 60mph when the speed suddenly dropped to 40mph. The cop pulled him over to ticket him and, without provocation or warning, fired at a civilian with a taser.

    What would have been correct is to, with the information the officer clearly had from the ticket, to fine and charge the driver with his crimes.

    This was not a violent criminal who was a risk to anyone, this was not somebody who was driving recklessly, this was not somebody disobeying anything other than an order to sign a piece of paper.

    I`m sure had the officer said, "If you don`t sign it you`ll have to come to the station." None of what made this video so apalling would have happened. Instead the officer exercised force in a reckless manner and became no worse than a common thug.

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    Lusien Male 18-29
    26 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    Like i said previously, the taser was intended to be used in situations where a gun would normally be drawn, and used accordingly.

    If you would shoot somebody with a pistol, you can shoot somebody with a taser.

    There is only one person I can see being a viable target to discharge a weapon at in this video, and he`s the one with a badge.

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    kermitgreen Female 30-39
    187 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    guess be tazered is better than getting shot.
    stupid americans and your stupid gun crazy society.
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    jacobubub Male 13-17
    136 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 3:27 pm
    cops dont deal with people who give them crap. The one who got pulled over seemed like an overdramatic sissy know-it-all.
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    sgthartman42 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 3:28 pm
    Stupid ignorant australian :p...your society has guns too and you should be thankful...but i guess youll never understand the right to defend yourself cause you decided to never take personal responsability.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    kermitgreen...what a bigot. I betcha hate n*ggers and woggs, doncha hun?

    BTW, Kermit was an American creation. Purge the evil from your midst.

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    Seizure Male 13-17
    10 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 4:15 pm
    I love you liberal brain-washed idiots.

    The cop explicitly told him he was over the speed limit (There`s the reason, so no bullpoo about rights) and then the guy refused to listen.

    You know what you do if you disagree with your ticket? You take it to court. You don`t throw a bitchfest right then and there. The guy wasn`t obeying instructions and the cop did what he was supposed to: enforced his authority, which was in no way misplaced.

    Now go find something else to whine about you sissy democrats.

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    vthings Male 18-29
    44 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 5:33 pm
    "Now go find something else to whine about you sissy democrats."

    Yeah, we`ll hear how loud you squeal when an out of control cop tases your ass, dittohead. The man had every right to dispute the matter and had every right to ask why exactly he was being issued a ticket and why he was being placed under arrest, which I might add he was never told. Go blow a goat.

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    peixao13 Male 18-29
    66 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 5:40 pm
    This is sooo old!!!! I know the cop and the kid that got tased. They were both hot heads and did have too much attitude. The kid (jared) did put his hands into his pocket with his back to the cop. Also the cop does have the right to arrest him if he doesn`t sign the ticket.
    THe cop had death threats and was put on leave for a few weeks and had to attend an angermanagment class. Jared was a dumb ass and should have listened to the law!!
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
    2423 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    Ma`am you have yourself a nice day.
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    ohthedrama Male 30-39
    162 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 6:33 pm
    Oh nos. People`s panties are in a bunch because a dickhead got tased by a cop for not simply obeying. You argue the point in court, not on the street. Yes, you have rights but you also need to know why a cop has the right to arrest you if you don`t sign a ticket. Either listen to the cop or be a dickhead. Your choice.
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    donk Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 7:11 pm
    kcpd that might be the law where you live but the laws are different from state to state. In Indiana where I live and where I was a police officer for 4 years refusing to sign a traffic ticket could get you arrested but we were required to advise the person that refusal to sign could result in arrest. Refusing to sign a traffic citation is not a crime, getting served with a citation and not showing up to court or paying your fine is a misdemeanor. We were also required to advise them that a signature is not an admission of guilt only a promise to appear. In my 38 years of life I have never seen someone as out of control and on a power trip like this officer...he had an attitude from the word go. He was unprofessional during the whole stop and although his department says he was justified in using his taser I would disagree. The only threat this guy presented was when he walked away he put his hands in his pocket to get his keys, yet he was walking away which in itself is no
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    donk Male 30-39
    103 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 7:19 pm
    threat to the officer. Use of force policies vary from department to department but on the department I was on you could only use a taser when the person was presenting a threat to the officer, bystanders or himself. This jackass was reaching for his taser practically when the guy got out of his vehicle...he was going to tase him from the start and he knew it. Not only that he totally disregarded the force continuum. You know as well as I do that even if you are having a bad day you maintain discipline when dealing with the public, which this guy did not at all. I am not anti cop but I am seeing more and more that we are slowly becoming a police, do as we say, don`t question authority and act like good little sheep
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    Seizure Male 13-17
    10 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 7:25 pm
    VThings, you`re missing one thing:

    I`m not a big enough idiot to turn away from a cop and give him a hard time over a traffic ticket.

    Plus anybody with half a brain knows that reaching into your pocket while a cop is dealing with you is STUPID.

    Seriously, get a reality check.

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    The_Sickness Male 18-29
    48 posts
    June 30, 2008 at 8:37 pm
    wow, the dude should popped the cop, and took off... cops are dicks, pricks or whatever else you wanna call them. I smart off to them in my town every chance I get.... when they pull you over for no reason, say yes ma`am whenever they ask you something. Stick it to cops everywhere
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    John_Mclane Male 18-29
    31 posts
    July 1, 2008 at 9:02 am
    give the cop some slack: he`s usually alone when he pulls people over. who knows what they will do to him?
    And that little faggy granola breath know it all could have been a little more patient and cooperative.
    If i was that cop and the hippy guy wouldn`t have been such a wise ass, he would have gotten away with a warning and a `have a nice day`.
    But this time the tazing must have been very fullfilling and justified ;).
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    jde824 Male 18-29
    241 posts
    July 1, 2008 at 11:03 am
    The cop asked him to sign the ticket when it wasn`t fully filled out. It did not have the speed that he was going on it and that is why he refused to sign... I wouldn`t have signed it either. He could later put 100 mph in there and you could get reckless driving and a hefty fine. Cops get a little too trigger happy with these non-lethal weapons now.
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    robbery525 Male 13-17
    329 posts
    July 1, 2008 at 6:35 pm
    thats bull that the cop got off without any penalty.
    didnt even read him his stupid Miranda rights.
    searched the car without probable cause.
    i wonder if they even showed the video in the court. if they did show the video it is such retarded judges that let the cop leave without any penalties.
    cops like this make the rest look bad. a lot of the cops, (mostly the ones on the internet) love to abuse their power.
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    MatthewJohn Male 18-29
    1 post
    July 1, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    I`m a liberal through and through. When I saw that kid get tazed at the Kerry convention for asking questions, I was outraged; what a drated up country we live in. But this...the kid in the vehicle was a smart ass who didn`t know his place. He could`ve signed the ticket, gone to court, and appealed the whole thing, no problems whatsoever. Instead he bitches and moans like a little kid and then gets out of the car, walks away from the cop twice and puts his hands in his pocket, and asks what the hell is the matter with him. We`ve all seen "Cops"- you know thats exactly the type of thing that goes down before the kid would make a break for it.

    I think our restrictions on police brutality are utterly laughable. Oh, that cop sure hit that rapist pretty hard! We`re gonna make sure he gets fired! And then we sit and wonder why there`s such rampant drug use in the country today, why our cities are in such piss poor shape, and why it seems as though everyone is suddenly a criminal

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    Gr33ny Female 18-29
    5 posts
    July 2, 2008 at 10:07 pm
    The cops retelling of this to the other cop just makes me sick. Along with this entire video.
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    donk Male 30-39
    103 posts
    July 2, 2008 at 10:29 pm
    Robbery525 you don`t have to read Miranda rights to someone you issue a traffic citation to...it is a civil procedure not a criminal procedure. Once an arrest is made you need to read Miranda rights to someone before you question them. He was not interrogating him during the arrest and did not question him. The search was also legal, it is called a search incidental to arrest. Once he is under arrest he is taking control of the vehicle and has the right to search it. He also had the right to tow it but the wife took possession of the vehicle, that is officer discretion. The officer was cleared by the internal investigation and then their finding were sent to the prosecutor. I don`t know what the outcome of that was but I did find a story about the guy filing suit against the state and he is fighting the ticket. MatthewJohn, when the officer ordered him out of the vehicle he did not tell him the reason so the guy thought that were going to look at the sign.
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    donk Male 30-39
    103 posts
    July 2, 2008 at 10:35 pm
    The guy got out and was told to put his hands behind his back. He was not told that he was under arrest from the onset. Next thing he know he has a taser pointing at him and thought it was a guy. Granted to say that his next move was not the brightest but I would say that in his shoes I probably would have reacted the same way. He refused to sign the ticket because it was not completely filled out. It did not list the speed on the ticket, I would have refused to sign it also until it was completely filled out. Utah law states that a traffic citation must be completely filled out so in that instance the officer violated the law. I also question your liberalism...you statement are anything but liberal. Like I said in my other post we are becoming a police state...act like good little sheep or we will tase you...think about it
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    PrKitty Female 18-29
    370 posts
    July 7, 2008 at 7:05 pm
    Welcome to the police state, everyone have fun voting for Obama...

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