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Date: 06/20/08 12:31 AM

131 Responses to Time Travel: First Time Machine Coming Soon?

  1. Profile photo of patthebaker
    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:28 am
    Link: Time Travel: First Time Machine Coming Soon? - A video report that shows the first time machine is just around the corner. Do you think it`s really possible?
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    70meters Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:39 am
    I saw that years ago, and no I don`t think its coming anytime soon.
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:40 am
    My opinion? The day mankind discovers time travel is the day that mankind destroys itself. Time travel is just too damn dangerous; one person to drat it up and we can kiss our cosmic asses good bye.

    Well, there is that idea of opening up parralel dimensions and such. Besides, whats the fun about knowing what the future is, especially if you might not have the ability to change it?

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    mushie_mush Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:40 am
    Yeah, time travel is all fun and games until you get out of the machine and your arms are where your legs should be and your legs are where your arms should be.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:40 am
    Seriously, does no one remember that Twilight Zone episode? Where the guy goes back in time and accidentally changes one little thing and changes the doorman`s life? Okay well. Take that, then think about how he could`ve screwed over the doorman, as opposed to what actually happened.

    Moral of the story: Time travel = bad.

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    LadyWeasel Female 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:41 am
    I saw this a long time ago on TV.. Thanks for posting it. I had forgotten all about it.. Now I`m going to have to find the whole broadcast and watch it again. :)
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    Kisato Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:46 am
    No time travel pl0x. Seriously though, time travel would be a horrible HORRIBLE idea.
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    Smashking Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:53 am
    1) Seriously IAB, enough with the time travel theories. We know it`s possible in theory, and I for one don`t care how they come to it.

    2) I hate all these analogies they use. "Imagine the universe is this tomato, and this screwdriver is a thermonuclear bomb. With enough force, you can use this screwdriver to completely destroy the universe."

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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:54 am
    What if time travel follows that guy`s theory that was posted here a while ago?

    If time travel can happen, any changes made in the past will not disturb this current universe, instead a new universe will exist with new consequences.

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    elHadji Male 70 & Over
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:55 am
    So where is he travelling? To the future or the past?

    With all the paradoxes I doubt this will be possible.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:59 am
    Not this idiot again. Sorry, but time travel is NOT POSSIBLE. Something has to exist before you can travel around in it, and time doesn`t exist.

    There is no past, there is no future. There is only the now.

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    awesomeloser Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:59 am
    he says he can`t travel back before the time machine was switched on, but a black hole could accomplish the same thing? so couldn`t you travel back to any point were something got sent back in time by being spun by a black hole?
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    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:04 am
    He`s still not getting past the part where he get`s the photons moving faster than the speed of light. W/o the gravitational boost, he`ll just have a bunch of photons moving as they normally do. Photons exhibit both wave and partical properties. The more photons you push into a wave, the more power it holds. It doesn`t move any faster.
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    maceizballin Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:08 am
    hmm he raises interesting points
    but i dont think the universe will allow it
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    laMigra77 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:12 am
    If i could go back in time, i`d choose NOT to watch that stupid `I am Scottish` video. I`d really like to have those 2 minutes back.
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    protgod Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:14 am
    I, for one, am all about time travel. Totally possible - it is, after all, just a faster way of getting from a to b.
    That said, I don`t think we`d ever really feel the ramifications of time travel. Or if we did, we`d never know it. Due to infinite parallel universes (maybe even infinite perpendicular universes!), the probability of one minute change affecting our reality is very low. At a guess, I`d say most universe timelines are based on significant events. One little change isn`t going to be significant enough to throw us into a timeline retcon. If a change was to occur, it already has or will and we`ll just keep on keeping on.
    However from an `Event Horizon` scenario, time travel is both pretty pimp and pretty essential. To be able to cross the universe in a second will become a necessary ability someday. Though I`ll probably never live to see it, I`m happy to be living in a time to see it born.
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    teleneve Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:16 am
    Are you quoting John Titor?
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    Rambaldi Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:20 am
    If anybody recalls the time-travel post we had awhile ago they`d recall Michio Kaku discussing the possibility of paradoxes.

    He explained that traveling to the past would potentially make a split in the river of time, creating somewhat of a parallel universe. The universe does not allow paradoxes.
    (just as Pasaba said! sorry, wrote this after I read your thingy)

    And Zerocyde you can`t just say time does not exist without backing it up. Its a great motivational speech line "live as if you will die tomorrow", but just not practical. Just as a being in the 2nd dimension can move through, but does not see the 3rd, we too move through the 4th dimension of time yet currently lack the ability to freely move about.

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    meter1060 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:21 am
    lol @ laMigra77
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:23 am
    A simple change of the events of the
    past, would change the context of the
    present. So that machine and that exact
    second when the guy used the machine
    to travel in time, now will not happend,
    and because it didn`t happened, then
    nobody traveled in time

    This is like, the common explication to
    tell that it isn`t possible right?
    But... Who says than that event is
    a circle?

    I mean, they create something like:
    Machine-->Person-->Travel -|
    X^-----Changing the past <-|
    The "X" marks the conection broken
    AFTER changing the past

    But, the conection isn`t possible,
    because the moment that person IS in
    the past, now that becomes the present,
    and the future gets constructed AFTER
    that, it`s done, that guy is there,
    even if he kills his mother before the
    baby borns he`s there

    I don`t know if it`s clear what i said

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    Bananahammoc Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:30 am
    I don`t believe this for a second.
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    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:51 am
    Time travel won`t be possible. If you travel in time and you kill your grandpa so that you are never born, that means you are never born to travel back in time to kill him. That means he does not die and you are born, meaning you travel back in time to kill him, meaning you are never born to travel back in time, meaning he isn`t killed and you are born...

    If you travel back in time to change something, that something has already been changed NOW so you will never know if it was changed or if this is what it was originally intended to be.

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    Thryonn Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:51 am
    Hmmm, I`m pretty sure the writers from LOST have seen this clip...
  24. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:55 am
    Yeah... time doesn`t exist... it`s only a product of mankind`s quantification.
  25. Profile photo of Scotchy
    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:02 am
    What is happening, is that what is going on is he is not making it so you can`t go back to any point, it is due to the expansion and motion of the universe, you cannot travel back in time to a spot because of this expansion and our orbit around the sun, which is bobbing up and down as it orbits the galaxy. What he is doing is making a "fixed" point, kinda like a road marker, for future generations to interact with since that point can be fixed from anywhere. Also, as he stated in the video, the perception of time and space shows the particle moving faster then light, when in fact it is not, it obeys the laws of physics, you should actually pay attention so you do not miss key details like that. Since time is really a perception, you can perceive something that is incorrect, like an optical illusion. To make it easier to understand, imagine traveling at 60 mph, for one hour. Except that hour was your perception, to everyone else it has only been 30 minutes, meaning to them you
  26. Profile photo of Scotchy
    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:04 am
    are traveling 120 mph. That is the same concept here, to the object or particle, it appears to only be traveling at the speed of light or less, but from an outside observer it appears to be going faster due to time dilation due to the curvature of space and time which is what this guy is trying to do.
  27. Profile photo of kenny_f
    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:07 am
    yeah, there are theories that lost is based on this premise

    also, time is like a river, and chances are a paradox could form, but not definetly. i`m not that good at stuff like this.

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    peloos12 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:19 am
    impossible...if this all actually happened, my parents would have never kissed at the enchantment under the sea dance, and i would not exist
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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:20 am
    You`d think that if it ever ended up working, he`d be seeing people from the future...
  30. Profile photo of apimpds
    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:21 am
    No matter what, it is impossible to send information to what has been, and it is impossible to receive information from what will be. No matter how fast an object is traveling, it isn`t going to go back in time. If something were to be absolutely still with no movement whatsoever, it would simply be completely frozen. Now, something moving as fast or faster than the speed of light, assuming it would be in space and not an atmosphere, would just be traveling at that incredible speed achieving nothing because as the man in the video said, it would have to be traveling in a circle. Even if it were to travel in a straight line through space, it would inevitably be diverted off course or most likely destroyed due to the amount of matter floating in space and space`s growing infinity wouldn`t help that anymore or less. If you read this entire comment, thank you.
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    5577 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:24 am
    I only watched this video because Tom Baker was doing the naration.
  32. Profile photo of kenny_f
    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:39 am
    dragon chick who resembles one of the girls from tegan and sara, he didn`t turn on the machine yet, and the machine doesn`t exist yet. its only in theory
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    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:40 am
    That particular experiment would not work because in order to reach the energy requirements necessary for the light beam he needs to slow down the speed of light by passing it through a superliquid. This is not consistent with Einsteins` theory of E=MC^2 where C is the speed of light in a VACUUM. Therfore this method is not possible.
  34. Profile photo of kenny_f
    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:44 am
    anything is possible
    *more you know shooting star*
  35. Profile photo of jesusgod0
    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:45 am
    and AKappy, time does exist. Time is a measurement of one event to another through the fourth dimension known to us as time. The events themselves may not exist due to our perception of space but the measurement itself does.
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    Big_Gay_Nob Male 50-59
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:22 am
    personally I`d be happy if there was just today.

    tomorrow and yesterday just complicate things

  37. Profile photo of apimpds
    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:46 am
    jesusgod0, I`m sure you know what you`re saying, but without events occurring, or in other words "existing", Time would have no basis for measurement. For time to be, it needs a point of origin. The "A" in the commonly known "A to B" points used mostly in locations, is a good example for how time is measured. Say that the year 2000 is our "A". That means that 8 earth years of time(in our perception of it) have passed since then, making present day the "B" in this example.
  38. Profile photo of apimpds
    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:51 am
    Time rules everything, it is always here, there, everywhere! Time can be measured however one wants to measure it. If we didn`t use time way back in the day, there would be no society for the future.(our present day). Time is all the moments of existence of the one and only UNIverse simultaneously occurring throughout all existence.
  39. Profile photo of Mikeado
    Mikeado Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:53 am
    Holy crap, even the comments are confusing!!
  40. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:55 am
    I was saying that it only exists because we have made the effort to measure it.
  41. Profile photo of jesusgod0
    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:57 am
    ok, i probably worded my reply badly. i understand completely what you`re saying (apimpds) , and it is obviously correct. I think AKappy is saying that because we (humans) created the concept of time, it may not exist unless you measure it. You could apply this to light, light is a wave unless its observed (it acts as a particle), so unless we measure time, it may act differently or not at all. however time must exist because in order for objects to move through the 4th dimension (time) they must be 2nd or third dimension first. Because we see everything in the third dimension we say that time must exist, but this is because we are constantly measuring time.
  42. Profile photo of jesusgod0
    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:58 am
    so time may not exist when we don`t measure it. however this is impossible so we say that time exists...
  43. Profile photo of jesusgod0
    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 4:00 am
    oh and there wasnt time before the big bang. get your head round that one
  44. Profile photo of apimpds
    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 4:29 am
    Exactly, the big bang is the "A" for all existence thus far. Proving that there was no time before the big bang because there was no event before the big bang to start any measurement of time. The crazy thing is... that the theory of the big bang is that it was a compact super molecule containing all matter that exists. If this theory is correct, that means that there was obviously time when the super molecule existed, no matter how little an amount of time it may have been. The thing is that as we know it, well... better said "believe it", no events occurred before the big bang, giving no possibility for time to be measured, BUT that doesn`t mean time didn`t occur.
  45. Profile photo of apimpds
    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 4:38 am
    This is a good conversation, I really liked it. This is off subject though. jesusgod0, I don`t believe in god or any deity at all. My question is.... do you? You don`t seem like you would, but your screen name has god in it, even jesus. lol
    I hate to put people down, but when people say "I don`t doubt He exists." I just want to say, not doubting something is the first step to believing.
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    Valark Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:14 am
    Wait, I thought he said thayt by bending a beam of light, he could theoretically send things back in time. That tunnel thing wasn`t a bent light beam, it was a series of linear laser points. I take it that either this experiment is total bunk or that laser tunnel wasn`t the real time machine.
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    crashgirl88 Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:41 am
    I have to think that going back into the past is just a bad idea
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    HuskysTiger Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:42 am
    Didn`t watch the whole video, not interested. But is this the guy who wanted to meet his dead father? I read some article in junior high about it...
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    paramecium Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:43 am
    LoofahBoy: My opinion? The day mankind discovers time travel is the day that mankind destroys itself. Time travel is just too damn dangerous; one person to drat it up and we can kiss our cosmic asses good bye.

    Well, there is that idea of opening up parralel dimensions and such. Besides, whats the fun about knowing what the future is, especially if you might not have the ability to change it?

    Me: Unless of course you are a part of that history. A funny example is like becoming your own grandfather.

    I`d like to know my own future, at least, to some extent. I read the endings of books early on but I still enjoy reading the book to the end after. Or it could be enjoying the viewing of a trailer before you see the whole movie (sort of, I kmnow you dont view the ending).

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    paramecium Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:44 am
    Oh, and there is such thing as time travel people. WE are already travelling in time. Forwards. :-P
  51. Profile photo of DDylan
    DDylan Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:45 am
    these crazy time travel vids rule.

    im not a proffessional in the field so i`m not going to say anything now.

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    paramecium Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:46 am
    jesusgod0, You may be interested in this
  53. Profile photo of paramecium
    paramecium Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:48 am
    DDylan: Still nice to theorise.

    I have interest in time travel though Im very skeptical at the moment if we can actually travel back or skip ahead in time. Still though it`s fun.

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    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:49 am
    To the first.... TO THE FIRST WHAT???

    He seemed so sure he was going to make it work. I bet it doesn`t.

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    gigglygiggle Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:50 am
    *runs to nearest corner*
    *sees no time machine*
    *is disappointed*

    If time travel does exist, we`ve seen people from the future now.

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    waath1 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:56 am
    I don`t know, guys. Everyone out there who`s claiming that it`s not possible because "time doesn`t exist" and "it`s just a product of mankind`s quantification" has no real idea.

    There have been so many things that have been impossible that we have achieved. Everything from electricity to the atomic bomb had it`s naysayers and was at one point impossible.

    That said, I`m not here claiming I know if it will work or not.

    I`m just saying I don`t know how many advanced physicists we have on the I-A-B forums but perhaps we should leave the speculation to the big boys.

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    hampoofegg Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:09 am
    Maybe time travel was already possible and has already happened, but if there was another one of the current you residing within the same universe as an older or younger self, it may cause a crossover or paradox to say two of the same being cannot reside within the same space, and if any event were changed within the intended timeline this may also cause a paradox as to say that event happened but was replaced with this event causing another event to happen that changed every other event following it and caused all other events to be overwritten and cause them to constantly change with parallel selves. But thats just my theory.
  58. Profile photo of kittyloaf
    kittyloaf Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:12 am
    Ive read Einstein`s theories and they are very powerful. When things approach the speed of light, lots of things get weird. Your length changes, your whole perception of time changes too.

    There was one interesting thought experiment in my physics book. The two brothers, one is on Earth, the other in a spaceship going near the speed of light on a mission ot planet X which is 20 light years away. He goes to the planet and comes back, and his brother on Earth has aged 40 years, while he has only ages a few years. This is because when you approach the speed of light time slows down. For the mathmatical justification and context, you have to read the book, and you cant just read posts on a forum, but its absolutely correct.

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    kittyloaf Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:14 am
    Anyways, this kind of machine wouldnt be used for people, youd probably die if you went into the machine. It looks more like a telephone to communicate with the future. In my above post i said how going near the speed of light time slows down, and his idea is to use the speed of light to stop the time inside the cylinder, so anything you put inside will be goign about the speed of light and will be frozen in time.
  60. Profile photo of kittyloaf
    kittyloaf Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:16 am
    And furthermore, to people who say if there were time machines wed see people from the future, did you even watch the video. You cant ever go into the past. You can only hold a region of space/time still so that the future and the present can communicate.
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:19 am
    ^Have you read Micheal Crichton`s Sphere?

    It might be more plausable to SKIP across the run or black hole.

    Let`s say a bowl was black hole or the Sun. If I toss a peice or fruit or marble in it, it will swirl, you die if you sucked in.

    Now, if I were to throw or toss said fruit or marble across the bowl, if gets to the other side- time travel.

    I forget the exact mechanism...

    I trust Crichton`s wprd to much

  62. Profile photo of kittyloaf
    kittyloaf Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:20 am
    Oh and to the people who say time doesnt exist, thats like saying the x-y axis doesnt exist. But it does exist, and to make it 3 dimensional, you just move the entire axis forward are backward, to make it x-y-z axis. And that exists too, and to make it to the 4 dimension, you just move that axis foward or backward to make the x-y-z-t axis. Our entire 3d space is moving forward in time.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:48 am
    If time travel were real, we`d be flooded with visitors from the future.
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    vitaminjunky Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:53 am
    Even though this would be terrible, I kind of hope that if he does receive any messages from the future, the first one is "F1RST P05T!!!" or something to that effect.
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    kimberly163 Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:55 am
    i would like to go back in time but somebody would probably use it for all the wrong reasons
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    Doomlike Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:58 am
    I believe you can move faster into the future if you wanted, but going back ? I doubt it, after all time is just something we use to measure howlong a series of events took.
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    Mouichi Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 8:47 am
    Kittyloaf, to prove your theory, you`d have to show us another dimension. Time is literally defined as a measurement. I don`t necessarily believe that it is a dimension in which events occur in sequence. I`m more inclined to believe that it is simply our own way of being able to say when something happened/will happen. Though I won`t say that I can`t be wrong. Even if time travel were possible, I don`t think this is the way it would work.
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    Deevo114 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 8:52 am
    The concept of time on its own is false and it has been proven by Einstein that space and time are in fact 1 in the same called `spacetime`. This concept is the bases for the famous e=mc^2 formula and also explains why there is no such thing as a fixed point in space. The point in spacetime where we exist can only be determined relative to another point in spacetime and even then the perceptions at the two points can be greatly effected by environmental conditions (i.e. curvature of space by bodies of large mass).

    Traveling forward in time is indeed possible. Kittyloaf quite rightly explained this concept. Traveling close to the speed of light would require massive amounts of energy though which we are not able to control YET. This would be partially rectified if we were able to control exotic matter more successfully and reduce the need for larger amounts of power to push or pull us along.

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    Deevo114 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 8:52 am
    Traveling back in time would require a person to travel faster than light which is impossible using a space ship. E=mc^2 explains that infinite energy is required to propel matter to the speed of light, not possible. However, going faster than the speed of light does not always mean beating it in a race from point A to point B but rather arriving at point B before light has set off from A. If a person were to step into a worm hole at point A and instantly arrive at point B (say point A and B are 10 light years apart) this person would be traveling back in time by 10 years. The only problem here is creating a wormhole which would probably not be stable should a person try to enter. This would require the formation of a worm hole around the person and the safe movement of that person out the other side.
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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:21 am
    I couldn`t bear to watch the whole thing.
    I still don`t believe time is anything more than a measurement, but I do think that going into the future somehow is quite plausible. But then you couldn`t go back, which is kind of saddening in a way.
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    mr_stache Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:35 am
    No!!!!! Headaches!!! Timetravel can get so confusing! For instance, which future are we receiving information from? The way the universal timeline is built, we should receive info from all possible future universes. Or, are we receiving information from one specific timeline? And if so, what happens when they send knowledge back that redirects the direction out timeline is travelling, thus destroying our future as the ones who sent the message? Oh... so many headaches... If you`ve read Bob and George the Comic Strip online, you`d know what I was talking about.
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    apoet4life Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:43 am
    Would anyone agree that some of these destroying the universe theories relate to years ago when we thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around us? The possibilites may be endless but you never know until you actually find out. As the teacher from "The Magic School Bus" would say, "Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!"
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    tp12 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:50 am
    the first thing hes gunna hear when he turns it would probbaly be a command to turn it off again.
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:17 am
    The way I understand it is this, since they are using non-relative photons in the experiment, they aren`t trying to speed mass beyond the speed of light. As i understand it, when an object with mass aproaches the speed of light, its mass increases, which requires more energy to propell. So to get mass to move faster than the speed of light, the laws of physics would have to be broken to accomidate for the fuel to mass problem. Since this experiment uses photons, which as i understand it, do not contain mass, the amount of fuel/energy needed to propell a photon would not need to change to accomidate mass. Also the way this machine looks like it would work would be to bend a hi powered laser into a vortex shape. So this machine would work like one of those penny funnels in the mall. The wall of the funnel is moving light, the penny would be the photon, you drop it into the cone and as the photon is sped along the path it moves faster and faster.
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    CheeseMan1 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:23 am
    I created a time machine once. You enter the box, and you wait. the amount of seconds you wait in the box is the amount of seconds you go ahead into the future. Fascinating, no?
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    Smashking Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:29 am
    Even if reaching more than the speed of light were possible, wouldn`t the incredible amount of energy practically disintegrate whatever you`re trying to send? That`s the only problem I see with that mechanic of time travel, we would first have to find some substance of matter capable of withstanding the speed of light, which is near impossible seeing as how when that amount of energy is found, atoms and molecules practically fall apart.
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    ShadowNova13 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:36 am
    My opinion: if time travel exists, how come no one has come to the past yet?

    exactly =]

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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:37 am
    I just had another thought, this machine could only affect photons anyway. They are using a high powered laser to push the object along its path. If you put anything with mass along the path of the laser, it would be vaporized or disintigrated by the beam, so the only feasable object to use on this experiment would be photon particles...
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:45 am
    Scary thought... The light is manipulating the space around it forming this funnel for the photon to travel along. If there were an atom in the path of this photon, the result would be a nuclear explosion, as that is the exact means in making a nuclear explosion. A nuclear explosion happens because a photon is hurled into the nucleous of an atom at the speed of light, like a cue ball on a pool table. Once the photon connects with the cluster of protons and nuetrons, like in a game of pool, the reaction is of opposite and equal action, thus causing the mass of the nucleuos to become pure energy. So by sending the photon at light speed along this path, any stray atoms in the space around the light beam would collide with the photon, thereby causing and atomic explosion... yikes
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    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:03 am
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    Deevo114 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:03 am
    They already have ShadowNova13. Their names are Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and they run the world with their future computers.
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    heresrobo Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:20 am
    time travel will never happen.
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    TonyBlairPM Male 50-59
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:26 am
    You people need lives. You gus think your smart but your not. You guys are pretty sad.
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    m0527j3 Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:44 am
    I think this guy is a little crazy
    But I guess you have to be crazy to make a time machine.
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:55 am
    Here is a video that explains if we wont have paradox`s if we make a time machine
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 11:56 am
    also shadow nova if you actually watched the video it would explain that
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    pyr0chem Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    I have a Question:

    If someone in the future was to use the machine to travel into the past, they would now be in the past. So that means it is possible to travel into the past, but since that person traveled into a certain time in the past. Their self that has NOT traveled into the past yet, will in the future travel into the past. So that means yourself that is one second, one millisecond, or the smallest possible measure of time in the past before the future self traveling into the future, will travel into the future in that amount of time. So wouldn’t that create an infinite loop of yourself traveling to this certain time in the past over and over again creating an infinite amount of yourself instantly completely filling up the universe?

    Not sure if that makes sense, but that’s why I believe time travel would be impossible because it would instantly destroy the universe by filling it with an infinite amount of the person traveling to the past.

    I tried to d

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    pyr0chem Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    I tried to drawn what I was trying to explain to see it helps; it`s really crappy, but I think it shows what I`m saying.


    It shows a timeline. The red dot shows the point at which someone is traveling to the past from. The green dot shows the point in time that they are traveling to. Both blue dots show the past selves of the person traveling into the past, but have not gone to the past (green dot), yet. The brown “arrow” shows a period of time that the blue dots will reach to the red dot. The gray arrows show the “infinite” amount of times that the red dot travels to the past (green dot).

    Not sure if it makes my idea any easier to understand…but oh well =P

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    hotjason Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    no, it really doesn`t, sorry LOL
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    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    Pryro this is called a paradox it is believed to be impossible with the incorperatuion of other dimension
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    MechBFP Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:30 pm
    "My opinion: if time travel exists, how come no one has come to the past yet?"

    Because, like he said, you can only travel as far back as the machine which was created to allow it in the first place. Hence if time travel exists, but no one has created it yet, your not going to see anyone from the future.

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    smartdude00 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:31 pm
    @itsallfake`s last post: That`s the most sensible comment on this thread so far. (Except maybe the one about the Magic School Bus.) But maybe something about the really high energy of the lasers would affect an explosion like that. I can`t decide whether it`d make it bigger or smaller, though. I`m not a physicist. This is why I`m gonna go live on the moon, though, because these scientist people are going to blow the world up by accident.

    In the future.

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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 12:47 pm
    sounds possible
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    coolthing97 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    rofl at the analogy he used: "Imagine this fart that im about to make *lifts up leg and farts* is the universe, and this air freshener is the past. *sprays air freshener* Just one little change to the past can change the future. *points to his nose*" XD
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    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:03 pm
    I`m not sure whether anyone on this page has read any of my posts on page 2, but I explained quite simply why time travel is impossible. And to all you saying "we would see hella people if it were possible." Your wrong, because even if it did work the only thing the guy in the video said you could send through the machine is information, you know, waveslengths like radio waves and infrared that do not contain any mass. Also since a photon doesn`t contain mass it wouldn`t cause a nuclear explosion, sorry but I think you mixed up PHOTON with PROTON. Protons have very little mass and an electric charge which can further attract it to a substance and or route it towards it. Any of the subatomic particles(proton, neutron, and electron) can be used in a nuclear explosion. Electrons contain the smallest amount of mass, and are most ideal in a nuclear explosion.
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    Deevo114 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:31 pm
    apimpds, time travel is possible, read my threads page 3.
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    NowPleaseRea Male 70 & Over
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    June 20, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    Sorry but posh accented announcers, name dropping Einstein and self deluded pseudoscientists do not a viable theory make.

    For a person or object to travel through time to a different era would mean that the atoms in his body would have to be in two different places at once in the time period he transplanted himself too. The atom in your thumbnail right now could easily be on a beach in bermuda years from now. How could you step out of your transporter in Duluth, Mn. if the atom you need for your thumbnail is in Bermuda?
    If this time travel was possible then all matter would have to be in virtually all other positional points at once, for that is the only way matter could possibly even be in two places at once. This time travel notion is scientifically absurd. However it makes good fiction and entertains our flights of fancy so I say indeed - do dream on.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    ^ now that is a good point.

    I`d say that time travel is impossible for matter of any kind. What about just information though?

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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:15 pm
    Totally disregarded the time paradox idea. The only way it could work is if it opened a gateway to a parallel universe, which could have consequences we cant even imagine (read `The Gods Themselves` by Isaac Asimov).

    Also, Scotchy brings up an interesting point if I understand him correctly - wouldn`t something sent back in time end up coming out somewhere in space due to the fact that the earth wouldn`t be in the same point in space as it was when the the object would be coming out?

    Also also, AKappy, thats just dumb. Time exists. If it didn`t, the universe couldn`t exist. Its the measure of time, i.e. the idea that its currently 2:17pm that is a product of mankind`s quantification. It is true that time is relative - there is no absolute time, but that doesnt mean it doesn`t exist. Everything is relative.

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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    Also also also, and this is something that applies to teleportation too - how would consciousness be affected by this? Science has answered all kinds of questions about our physical bodies, but we still have no idea what consciousness/soul/spirit/whatever you want to call it is. If you travel back in time or teleport somewhere, would your mind go with your body, or would a lifeless corpse come out the other end?
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    jaketb14 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    is it repost day? i mean this, and the rollercoaster, comeon!
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    Deevo114 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    NowPleaseRea - your theory is based on the assumption that everything in the universe is traveling along the same linear time line when this is not true. Each person has their own time line which is unique to them. Their experience in time is relative to their environment so should they travel into the future they would not "need" any atoms from a future self in Bermuda because it would simply be a case of their own timeline looping around to experience the same "era" twice (the second time being the future self in Bermuda after they have traveled back from visiting the first time in their own relative past).
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    MORNAF1 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    okay, those of you who say that time travel would mess up time because of you changing something, actually, logically, if you "change" something by going back in time, the changes inevitably happen before the things that were supposed to take place, and it all fits together in the end like a puzzle.
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    eleutherarch Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    If we ever do build a time machine, it`d be best if we only send intelligent people back in time. We don`t want idiots causing time paradoxes or killing everyone.
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    AnthrAmrcan Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    if time didnt exist before the big bang ...then what--? what set off the big bang? if we travel all the way back imagining the big bang why not imagine a little bit further...what was happening 100 years before the big bang or a thousand...and why the hell was there even a big bang in the first place figure that out and i bet we`d figure this whole time thing out
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    bdowner60 Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    Just send me future stock quotes and news , I will decide the rest.
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    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:21 pm
    my god (or lack there of) there have been a lot of long comments. i think we have established that we are not going to come to a conclusion about time travel any time soon.
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    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 3:25 pm
    and i swear to god {(or lack there of) if any1 goes on about my use of the word time i will crawl out of their computer and strangle them
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    raikun12 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 5:57 pm
    the second it gets turned on we die cuz 100 yrs. latter al quedia will finally have nukes and they`ll throw em through.

    they`ll also throw in real mudkipz to drat with us.

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    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    There are some really good theories on here, but time(meanwhile hooking up a cage around computer)is constant, and neither information nor mass can travel into the FAR future, because it hasn`t happened yet, or to the past because it is already done. The best way I could say it is: If time were living,the present is alive, the past is dead, and the future is to be born. Leave the dead alone because you can`t bring it back, just cope with the present because it`s what you got, and you`ll have to wait for the future because it hasn`t been born. That said, it is quite simple to understand that points in time, either on a universal time line or someones own personal time line, cannot be visited or communicated with. As much as I would like to talk to my great grandchildren^5 to see how nice the future is, It is simply IMPOSSIBLE.
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    Se1 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:15 pm
    You say you need a strong enough energy source ?
    Hows about the LHC !? In a couple of months there will be as much energy as there were a hundred millionths of a second after the big bang =D. Oh god, can you smell the destruction ? PIKACHU AND ALL THE POKEMON WILL BE REAL ! ^_^.
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    summerfly Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 6:22 pm
    We get to time travel twice a year for daylight savings haha
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    krazyfreak58 Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 7:58 pm
    it would be much easier if he had a TARDIS...
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    cleminem9919 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2008 at 8:53 pm
    drat time travel... i think that if we were able to do time travel, then we would have already heard from some non-nice individual in like the 1900`s, saying "hey! you can make a time machine yo!" then he would gibe us some weird advanced piece of technology, to help us. so, by inventing a time machine, we would have already known, and by that not hapening, its not possible. you cant reverse time, its gone. i dont understand why people cant understand that. time is not hidden in an atom, it is a matter of physics, which exists, but cannot be detected. its simply something we made up, and it works with the way our universe works. so i hate to say give up already, but your wasting our money. do something good with life, not waste it. so i agree with every one else on this board thats in their right mind.
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    Deejay89 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
    What is the right mind? Believing what you want to believe? You totally missed the part where he mentioned you cannot go back in time where there is no time machine. Without the time machine there is nothing to send what ever you want to send to. Its like delivering mail to a house that isn`t there, you`d send the package only to get a error message stating that their is nothing to receive the package.
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    cndman15 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    mehh.. everybody here thinks they are as smart as a physicist.
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    Lathyris Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2008 at 10:21 pm
    Yep, that makes sense. We`ll time travel with lasers making a spiral patern. It`s about time you plebians caught up. I`m going to go bathe in plutonium now, and eat some rocks. Because that`s what future people do.
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    jenneh Female 13-17
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    June 21, 2008 at 12:40 am

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    dragonwei Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2008 at 6:48 am
    Hi guys. I am from the future and I am here to tell you that time travel does not exist. I made a mistake and now I am unable to return to my present cos you stupid people haven`t invented a time machine for me to travel back to the future.
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    Homophuctual Male 13-17
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    June 21, 2008 at 9:58 am
    Sorry, there`s no way to communicate with the future through the time machine. You can turn on the time machine for an hour and maybe travel back within that hour, but having a millennium of difference or more is impossible. Reason being, you can`t obtain anything from your machine when the risk of the machine being turned off and having cut off the acquired availability for moving back to how ever many years it has been on for is too great. You could receive something then turn off the machine, thus making it impossible to have received the item in the first place, due to the fact that after it was turned off, it becomes a MUCH smaller time frame for time travel. You would have to enclose the time machine with an impenetrable shield, to ensure nothing could go in and turn it off, and power the machine so that it, without exception, could never malfunction or turn off. And as you received the object you would have to immediately turn the shield back on or the object would disappear.
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    Homophuctual Male 13-17
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    June 21, 2008 at 10:07 am
    You see guys, too much paradox to even think it possible, and if it is possible, there would be to many risks to control it. You would have too many precautions and rules it wouldn`t even be worth it. Also, if a 30 year old man left the machine on for a hundred years, and went through it, only to turn it off once he arrived 100 years back, the poor guy would disappear, because he turned off the machine and made it impossible to travel from the time he came from. He would have to disappear, and a parallel version of himself would take on the past version of himself.
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    garyyo Male 13-17
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    June 21, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    gods gonna come in and start killing people cause we are f%ucking with him throuhg time travel
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    DeFxZ459 Male 13-17
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    June 22, 2008 at 12:14 am
    time travel is almost impossible the energy to move even a tiny particle through space so that it travels faster than the speed of light is tremendous. the only way i think you could do that is with help from a black hole but there is the problem, you would need to create or find a star and collapse it resulting in a black hole which would take lots of time and energy then you would have to travel into it faster that the speed of light becuz even light cant get thru it then bend space to have the destination which can be in another part, time, or even a dimmention in space.
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    June 22, 2008 at 12:02 pm
    I doubt people realized one certain thing he said. You cannot go back farther then the moment the time machines is activated. Meaning that you can`t really change anything, everything will happen the way it should. Once the time machine is activated, things will start coming through it, but we`d never see a time WITHOUT those things so technically there`d never be a paradox. So this could work.

    But it`s pretty boring.

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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    June 22, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    I call BS. Hardcore BS.
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    MattG Male 13-17
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    June 22, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    so i might not be smart enough to understand the actual sci. behind it, but no matter what happens with a time machine, even if you could go back in time, you`ll never be able to change the current time. because if u go back in time and change something, it would have already been changed when u experienced it the first time. you just didnt realize it the first time around
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    apimpds Male 13-17
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    June 23, 2008 at 11:30 pm
    Read my posts, page 2,4, and 5 I think, It should clear some confusion. Taking the time to do so shouldn`t be a big deal since all of you guys are bored anyways.
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    kanika01 Female 13-17
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    June 24, 2008 at 10:49 pm
    I don`t believe this for a second.
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    boredtthemax Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2009 at 9:02 pm
    so what we need is one giant spoo and
    TIME TRAVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    IAmTheMoose Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    i think they should send us some future porn because im running out of new stuff ;)

    was anyone else disappointed when he said that he cant go back in time past when the machine was made? i mean the whole point was for him to go back and see his dad and now he cant... :(

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    rezoccante Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2011 at 6:04 am
    That would be really cool.

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