Proof of Evolution?

Submitted by: fancylad 9 years ago in Science

National Institute of Drug Abuse says that the amount of THC is US-grown marijuana is at its strongest in 30 years.
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Male 2
you gotta love it
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Female 15
go green! smoke weed! NORML ftw
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Male 791
^^^NORML.com
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Male 791

Of course, in an effort to get to the bottom of the so-called “potent pot” story, Ms. Yen might have thought to inquire why the US National Drug Intelligence Center’s 2007 National Drug Threat Assessment states, “Most of the marijuana available in the domestic drug markets is lower potency commercial-grade marijuana.” Geez, you’d think that the various prohibitionist branches of the US government would at least get their stories straight!

Oh well, since lying about the alleged dangers of allegedly more potent pot is now an annual tradition (Remember “Pot 2.0” anybody?), there’s always next year.

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Male 791
Or he could have mentioned how doctors may legally prescribe a FDA-approved non-toxic pill that contains 100 percent THC, and curiously, nobody at NIDA or at the Drug Czar’s office seems particularly concerned about it. Strangely, AP writer Hope Yen felt the need to identify Dr. Earleywine, who has authored numerous peer-reviewed studies and books on various aspects of cannabis, as “an adviser for marijuana advocacy groups,” but felt no such need to identify Mr. Walters or Ms. Volkow as “those who favor arresting and jailing adults who use marijuana, even when their use is for medical purposes.”
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Male 791
When I was in journalism school, the rule of thumb was that you needed to have your facts confirmed by three separate sources before a news story was ‘fit to print.’ By that standard, the ‘three sources’ cited in the story above — White House Drug Czar (and chronic liar) John Walters, NIDA’s (US National Institute on Drug Abuse) Potency Monitoring Project, and Nora Volkow, who heads the rabidly anti-drug propaganda agency that paid for the Monitoring Project study — don’t even add up to one.

Fortunately, the AP did at least demonstrate the good sense to speak with SUNY Albany Professor (and NORML Advisory Board member) Mitch Earleywine, who stated the obvious factoid overlooked by the White House: As the potency of pot rises, people simply smoke less of it. Mitch could have also noted that most cannabis consumers actually prefer less potent pot, just as the majority of those who drink alcohol prefer beer or wine over hard liquor.

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Male 379
i have the same bowl
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Male 791
OH NO! THC prevents lung cancer and helps ease pain of athsma! We definitely should not have more!
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Male 1,623
I do not see how the general public in America does not believe in Evolution.
70% of Americans believe that Satan exists.

I guess the general population in USA are just irrational.

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Female 173
i let out a little stoner laugh when sh said `Pot potency reaches a new high.`
geddit? cuz pot..makes you high..?! x]
...yeah, i`ll just shut up now.
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Male 66
What I was saying is that everything superficially labeled "artificial" is just as natural as anything else.

And weed did not kill 1 person last year. It killed no one, ever.

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Male 928
Evolution doesn`t need second-rate weed-proof, the proof is already there.
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Male 65
HOORAY!!!
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Female 81
woopsie
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Male 3,296
mj

gotta love how dis drug killed one person last year and its illegal. while cigarettes killed nearly 200,000 people and its sould virtually everywhere..

same with alcohol

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Male 3
This is not proof of Evolution or natural selection of any kind. Marijuana is stronger now than it was in the past only due to the conditions we have placed upon it. Rather than growing marijuana in large quantities outdoors, growers have come to realize that growing indoors yields less `bud` at higher levels of THC.

This is largely due to the fact that under controlled conditions (nitrated soil, temperature, light exposure, cross-breeding...blah blah blah...) marijuana plants are able to grow under optimal conditions. Thus, marijuana over the past 30 years is stronger ONLY due to the conditions it has been subjected to. This does NOT suggest that marijuana is now inherently stronger...All this study suggests is that growers are finding more efficient ways to produce marijuana that can get you BAKED AS SH*T!!!11

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Male 47
"they have never become anything other than a fly."
very good point
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Male 63
"Evolution is not a theory any more, it is an observable phenomenon. Fruit flies (specifically Drosophila Melanogaster) are commonly used to demonstrate changes within a species’ genetics over a period of time due to their relatively short breeding periods."

Actually, that`s not evolution in the sense of goo to you. Throughout all the years those flies have been bombarded with radiation and observed, they have never become anything other than a fly.

"Denying the existence of evolution is akin to denying the presence of gravity."

Not really since we observe gravity and its effects daily, but I challenge you to put forth an example of macro-evolutionary change having been observed in a laboratory.

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Female 16
lies
lies
lies
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Male 1,053
hooray!!
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Male 176
Marijuana should be lagal anyway.
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Female 54
what the hell, pot is stronger now because they have found better ways to grow it, and dealers make it stronger. Ive had some pretty crappy pot before, and some pretty great pot, it depends, this doesnt have anything to do with evolution
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Male 11,739
Potency reaches a new high.....wow, they are so clever. I would have never come up with something so original.
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Female 2,289
Yumm.
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Male 1,623
How can anyone oppose the evolution theory unless one`s sense and rationality has not withered away to a state of implicit obedience?

Oh wait, that`s just how Religion works.

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Male 107
^^
artifical means anything man made.
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Male 66
the real idiot here is seetheidiot who said:

"it`s not natural selection, it`s artificial selection if humans are causing it."

sorry friend, but humans are as natural as earthquakes or tapeworms.

and unbeknownst to these worried government officials, higher potency in marijuana means that a user need smoke less of it to achieve the desired effect, cutting down on tar and smoke inhalation. higher potency pot is EVEN SAFER than the utterly harmless low-potency pot.

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Male 86
It`s just proof that internet folk enjoy arguing over semantics...
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Male 187
That`s not proof of evolution. That`s selective breeding. When a seed from a por plant grows something other than pot you will have evolution. Scientists have beeb studying fruie flies for thousands of consecutive generations (they have an 11 day life span)and have never seen a beneficial mutation.
"It is a striking, but not much mentioned fact that, though geneticists have been breeding fruit-flies for sixty years or more in labs all round the world—flies which produce a new generation every eleven days—they have never yet seen the emergence of a new species or even a new enzyme.” Gordon Rattray Taylor (former Chief Science Advisor, BBC Television)
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Female 268
Selective breeding?
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Female 859
Well... is it the same here?
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Male 455
Proof of selective breeding, not natural evolution.
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Male 522
Title is a troll. Please ignore. This has asbofudgeintively nothing at all what so ever to do with anything remotely resembling evolution, natural selection or the origin of man. Nothing to see here, please move along. Grab a joint filled with basement grown hydro on your way out.
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Male 510
I only skimmed over this, but it seems you all have terrible misconceptions of evolution and weed.
(Unrelated, but I got a new bowl and it`s awesome.)
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Female 186
< Pothead.

Yay! ^______________________________________^

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Male 416
Ciggs make you feel light headed for like 10 seconds then you wonder why the hell you just smoked it. Thats it.
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Male 332
Cigarettes is worse than weed IMO. I honestly don`t see why marijuana is illegal and cigs are not. Weed makes you happy and you talk to people whom you don`t usually talk to, while at the same time :).

Can someone tell me what cigs make you feel afterward, because I`ve personally have never smoked one and never will.

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Male 416
^ only if youhave a predesposition for that illness.

I really want to smoke now. Haven`t toked in a month or so, or done any drug.

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Male 34
For many of those who plan to or are already using the drug, marijuana is heavily linked to an substantial increase in factors that contribute to neurological disorders such as schizophrenia and other types of psychosis.
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Male 47
notice the government "officials" are worried about its potency and it ends there. no reason why. thc isnt bad for u and until someone can prove me wrong im gonna keep tokin that sweet sweet green.
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Male 292
does it annoy anyone when somebody says "let the _____ event begin." Do they really think that without nobody will know that a debate will begin. I mean come on. I think thats worse than first posting.
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Male 2,958
-and sweetgun9: JESUS FUC(<ING CHRIST. CONFUSING SUBLIME WITH BOB MARLEY? SUPER FAIL, BUDDY!!!!-

He`s not your buddy, guy.

It`s not sublime, either. They sing a cover of the song, but they don`t sing the original that`s usually (and mistakingly) attributed to Bob Marley.

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Male 23
sorry for grass city go to the forums
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Male 23
its not proof of evolution or natural selection humans have tampered with the plant genetically along with more advanced ways of producing a healthier stronger plants with methods such as hydroponics, low strength training ect along with being able to adjust the level of nutrients in the soil all play a part in the higher THC content in the plant. and honestly its garbage its illegal and i am just waiting for the the whole "war on drugs" against marijuana to end and be forgotten about. more info? www.grasscity.com learn something for a change and form a proper view on the plant.
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Male 34
Evolution is not a theory any more, it is an observable phenomenon. Fruit flies (specifically Drosophila Melanogaster) are commonly used to demonstrate changes within a species’ genetics over a period of time due to their relatively short breeding periods. Denying the existence of evolution is akin to denying the presence of gravity.
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Female 15,763
Chappell, intelligent design says that God had at minimum, a helping hand in the process of how species changed/were created.
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Male 34
and sweetgun9: JESUS FUC(<ING CHRIST. CONFUSING SUBLIME WITH BOB MARLEY? SUPER FAIL, BUDDY!!!!
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Male 34
this is the single most awesome thing i have heard my entire life.
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Male 2,605
"Proof of genetic engineering."

More like proof of artificial selection.

Except THC may provide some other evolutionary benefit to the plant that outweighs the disadvantage, jangofett600. Adding to that, marijuana plants may continue to have increased potency because humans continue to grow them regardless the THC concentration. That is, we`re not causing the species to go extinct.

I`m not saying this is necessarily evolution, but it could be.

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Male 118
Proof of bad grammar? Yes, I went there.
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Male 121
Yes its not natural selection, it`s just proper breeding. But anyways, it`s still very low in THC compared to dutch cannabis (nederwiet), which gets over 20%. :D
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Male 69
What is the difference between "intelligent design" and "evolution". Arent all of these the same concept?

and Evolution=change over time
Marijuana changed its potency over time so it is an example of evolution

and it could just be how people grow the marijuana, not the actual plant changing

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Male 47
the plants want to live. by increasing the amount of THC, it will get smoked more; therefore, this trend *cannot* be evolution, as more plants will be used to smoke. pwn.
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Male 375
everybody already knows that
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Female 1,572
or it could be bredeing?
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Male 95
my bad.
its just i heard a version bob Marley sang
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Male 2,076
I think fancyclad just tried to make a joke out of his untrue statement lol
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Male 85
erm... nothing to do with `proving evolution`. In any case, evolution IS done, its real, anyone who doesn`t agree is either a completely jaded moron or has found something that can trump trillions of scientific working hours that has proven evolution via multiple fields and has verified it.
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Male 2,958
not Bob Marley.
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Male 95
"I smoke two joints in the morning
I smoke two joints at night"
Bob Marley
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Female 464
Yeah PUNS! :D
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Male 1,036
Hippies in the 70`s were really getting screwed when it came to weed. You could smoke dandelions in that age and get a better buzz. It`s, one of my highschool teacher confirmed it for us.
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Male 20,899
wow, no one got the joke. as thc levels go up, senses of humor goes doooooooooooown.
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Male 288
I`m assuming that it has increased because the people who grow this stuff start looking for the strongest strain and so on so we are at this point.
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Female 81
"ts proof natural selection, the pot with the most thc is obviously going to be the one whose seeds are planted. while its not "natural" (because humans are causing it) it shows that it can happen. and natural selection is the cause of evolution"


it`s not natural selection, it`s artificial selection if humans are causing it.

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Male 504
they say people sin who have sex

Who said sex was a sin? You can also do as many drugs as you want, but they are bad for you.

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Male 504
we drink wine in my church.

Who often do you go, and how much do you drink? Pretty good buzz, eh?

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Male 79
Cool...but where`s the proof of evolution?
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Female 449
^^ As is the church has ever had anything against alcohol, while they say people sin who have sex, or do drugs, yet alcohol is one of the worst :)
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Male 504
Pope, we drink wine in my church. I don`t think we have a strong argument here.

Communion is good, mk?

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Male 1,220
its proof natural selection, the pot with the most thc is obviously going to be the one whose seeds are planted. while its not "natural" (because humans are causing it) it shows that it can happen. and natural selection is the cause of evolution
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Male 369
Legacy15 it already has a "?" mate
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Male 504
Let the religious-drug flame war begin!
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Male 307
^^
Lol, as if the pope believed in genetics Pfft
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Female 449
It`s not like I`m complaining.
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Female 15,763
It`s not so much evolution as a representation of intelligent design, if it were real. We`d be god, tinkering with how traits are passed on and what evolves.
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Male 504
Proof of genetic engineering. Drugs are bad, mk?
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Male 551
NICE!!!
Now I can get high at a
lower cost!
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Male 577
well that just encourages people to smoke pot
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Male 2,506
and this is proof of evolution how?
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Male 369
proof of evolution? NO proof that the environment has changed and therefor nutrients in the soil!
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Female 4,225
They used a pun...

Adaptation?

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Male 2,958
Bullsh*t.
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Male 5,970
wow since the 1970`s, and why would the people against drugs say this? Just make people want it now more than ever
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Male 89
thank you jesus
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Male 20,899
Link: Proof of Evolution? [Rate Link] - National Institute of Drug Abuse says that the amount of THC is US-grown marijuana is at its strongest in 30 years.
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