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I said earlier, "Well, you can`t expect people to get married just because they feel like it, or they`re being forced into it!" That is arranged marriage, although if they love each other, than it is a happy marriage.
Then it`ll be eventually normal and no big deal made out of it. Im getting bored of all of this.
And hooray for that couple. That story made my night, and when they cut the cake was just adorable.
Obviously you aren`t familiar with arranged marriage.
PS, marriage has been on a "slippery slope" ever since a wife wasn`t considered chattel and a man`s property, and ever since interracial marriage was allowed.
"marriage existed before christianity...as long as we`re all clear on that. "
Exactally, so, I`m agnostic, I don`t want my marriage to have to deal with your god but i still want to be married. who decided it was a christian term? that`s unfair and stupid.but most things are...
ANDFINALLY another sate that accepts gay marriage. Ironic thats it Cali. for some reason.
If anybody deserves to be married it was those women.
DavisBoy, if you can`t see the difference between two consenting adults and the rape of a child or animal, I think that is more of a personal issue, not one of the gay community.
NeiltheSheep- yes I am for gay marriage. Yes, (though I would never practice it) I think polygamy between consenting adults should not be illegal- they should be able to decide to do what they want with their lives/bodies.
Tay-Dor- I`m pretty sure most gay couples wouldn`t mind if they were in a civil union- it would have to be equal in status to a marriage in all regards though. However this is frankly impossible. History says "separate but equal" is NEVER truly separate AND equal (check: Brown vs. Board of Education (1954)). If you would truly want unions and marriages to be equal, then call them he same thing.
That being said, rock-on old ladies! That is an amazing display of care and devotion they`ve maintained throughou
Saying marriage between a man and a woman is only ok because the bible says so is retarded is retarded in itself. Marriage at all I think is a religious ceremony to begin with...or it started that way. So when you throw out any standards or rules (such as it must be a man and a woman, or you can`t marry more than one person) then you get a complete meltdown of the system.
Why can`t I marry a chicken? Because my religion says no? well..that rule no longer applies...I don`t know if it is rational..but I think that`s the fear.
But...how many people here, who support gay marriage, are for/against polygamy (between consenting adults)?
I know you only are posting what you wrote and thats it but...
wtf does gay marriage have to do with statutory rape, bestiality, and polygamy??
Seriously, I love to see how you can explain this..
Here is the problem with Gay marriage.
Conservatives believe it is a choice and is wrong based upon biblical principles. So if you have a gay couple who has children, The sexual views of the child is more likly to be based on the idea that their body is free for them to use however they wish regardless of their age.
This decision is just another open door in the process to get statutory rape, bestiality, and polygamy laws to also be overturned.
Well, you can`t expect people to get married just because they feel like it, or they`re being forced into it! You ask most people and they`ll agree that the reason people usually get married is because they love their special someone. So yes, love has just about everything to do with it!
Which is why they should change marriage to "Legal civil Union for tax/insurance purposes Only".
What the hell does love have to do with marriage?
"Just makes it that much more disturbing and shows that our youth are in for a hard fight to reinstate morals in this world."
Okay, let`s use your `holy` book instead, then. Stoning disobedient children, setting people on fire, bigotry, etc. Yeah, you DEFINITELY have the moral highground, douche.
We always say we are in a free country... but there are so many restrictions to it.
At first blacks and women had no rights. Then they were faught for and now it`s better for both but not perfect (or course).
Now it`s gay rights. So, tell me this why is now ok for a woman to do a man`s job but not ok for a gay couple to marry if they love eachother.
And don`t give me the bullpoo answer of how a marrige should be between a man and a woman becasue then they will start a family. Because there are a ton of married couples who get married and don`t have kids. And don`t tell me that it will ruin the sanctity of marrige because not only has a ton of celebrities but reality TV has already taken care of that for you.
Wow... I really like to defend people. Oh and BTW I`m all for Animal Rights too.
haha ok! I`m done.
Any humping between them would be dry humping.
On to the topic at hand, the guy who said that it `undermines the essence of marriage.` was probably trying to sound insightful, but it just came off as really vague. How does it undermine marriage? The only view you can take with that is religious, and last I heard the church is not allowed to hold sway over laws. (I have nothing against the church, really, just the very few religious people who try to force their church on others.) I, personally, don`t mind using a different name for it. In fact, when I get married, I`m going to refer to it as being `spoodled` just because I want to see the look on people`s faces. As long as the rights are wholly equivalent, the name is a very minor detail.
Unfortunately I live in Malta, one of the last two countries in the world where divorce is still illegal (it`s just us and the Philipines). So I doubt we`ll have same-sex marriages any time soon if we don`t even have divorce. Mind you, I do have some friends who`ve gone abroad to marry, and that`s great for them.
This is too cute ^_^
The same is going to happen this year. I want to McCain to win on his principles and his superior leadership qualities. Not because single-issue voters make it so or not-so from this topic.
Back to the issue at hand, I have gay friends who are really cool and that deserve to have this right. There are other homosexuals that I know though that are just as viscous to heterosexuals if not more so than homophobes. One even supports eugenics in our society.
Its those people that I`m not sure about. And its that reason why I am apathetic.
I thought it was funny how the conservative guy said that gay marriage undermines the whole concept of marriage. Surely that would be love?
What does an 80-yr-old womans coochie smell like?Depends.
Seriously though, I have yet to hear anybody explain exactly how allowing gays to marry "degrades" society.
How is calling your union a marriage and my union a civil partnership anything like equal rights? That`s the same as having one water fountain for whites and one for coloreds. And sounds about as 1950s.
And for the last time to all you religious types out there, I don`t care what your mommy or your daddy or your preacher or your bible tells you, your religion does not apply to ME. I am not going to your Hell if I don`t follow your rules, and in the United States of America where we have seperation of church and state, laws that force me to conform to your religious beliefs are banned by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I do agree with Tay-Dor that individual states should decide if they want to recognize same sex unions or not. While I may personally disagree with a state not accepting it, I also recognize it is a choice to be made by the people living there. Attempting to force the issue with federal mandates is only going to cause more serious problems in the future.
But why would they want to call it marriage, the word has heavy links with religion and most mainstream religions don`t really like ze gays anyway =/
Why, why not let them call it marriage? I`m confused as to why that`s such a huge deal to some people. How does it effect you anyway? Are you going to walk down the street, say a gay couple and instantly know... oh...they`re married. im not going to be able to sleep tonight. and if so..why?
Nice couple, I`m glad they finally got to tie the knot.
I guess `marriage` is more of a religous term, and as the church and the state are separated, a state wedding for same sex couples has to be called a civil ceremony. In the UK I mean. I think most people would just say they were married though instead of `partnered` or something.
Gay marriages will become legal in every civilized countries sooner or later wether the religious right like it or not. It`s only a matter of time so deal start to deal with it.
Who am I? I`m the citizen of a state where the majority of the citizens (in a liberal state, mind you) voted to amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage. Now because Federal law requires us to recognize unions from other states, California has effectively decided the issue for the millions of citizens in other states who still oppose it.
I don`t have to justify why they shouldn`t use the word Marriage. I can have a personal preference just like anyone else. I just happen to share the same personal preference as millions of other Americans.
You may think Gay marriage doesn`t hurt me. I happen to believe it hurts society. "What about hetero marriage that fails?" Yes, that`s bad for society too. But jhust because hetero marriages fail is not an argument that would support gay marriage.
Furthermore so many people have basically distanced themselves from God that really, why should anyone care to get married according to the bible? Your wish is a noble one Lollage, but I doubt that the majority give a damn about whether any god gives credit to their matrimony.
Because "the bible defines marrige as" is a horsecrap argument because not everyone is religious, the legal argument is moot as they should (and over here they do) have the same rights. The goverment comprimised and called it civil union over just to appease the church.
Infact, who the hell are you to approve what to people who love each other do? how is it affecting you? Oh wait, its not, so therefore you obviously are a homophobe trying to put on a pc front.
I`m exactly the same as any other girl, but like me some minge instead of man-meat. Why should that mean that I am denied the WEDDING I`ve dreamed of just because of my girlfriends lack of penis?
Heck, in fact gays are being name-discriminatory to heteros. One example is the gay bar vs. a non-gay bar. Exact same thing, only difference is one has more gay people in it, one has less. So why not Civil Partnership vs Marriage - same thing, one for m/m or f/f couples, one for m/f couples.
Heck if I get a civil partnership (boy that looks so far away), I`d be glad; I`ll have a husband and I can divorce em for lots of alimony.
Just because I don`t want to see gay unions called "marriage" does not mean I`m homophobic. I support the legal right for gays to wed. Call them civil unions and give them the same rights. Just don`t call it marriage.
IMO it would have been easier to just back down and accept `Civil Partnership` rather than marriage and let it go at that.
I`m not gay but I`m a queer still and such I`d support homosexuals in anything like this :)
I hope here in England they get gay marriages.
society started degrading during your time. We`re just passing the torch.
Me and my gf are going to be like that cute couple in 60 years time. :)
I propose that there should be a ban on all weddings between homophobics.
But it`s a marriage between two men/two women! That`s liek, so wrong, lolz!
Those people who have children out of wedlock, or those people who marry for money, not love, or those people who marry and divorce as often as they change underwear, they`re not ruining the sanctity of marriage at all! lolz!
Let them come.
In the meantime, I`ll just be checking out my lesbian friend`s wedding registry, cursing the sanctity of marriage, insisting that Jesus was gay and burning the flag.
Lets get hitched!Except.. not in Tennessee... where one might use that phrase. I heard they aren`t that fond of us down there. o-o;
Opie: Shh! They can still read!
T.. t-too far?
CONSERVATIVES HAVE VERY HIGH MORALS THAT THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO UPHOLD. THAT IS ALL. NO MALICIOUS INTENT BEYOND TRYING TO RIGHT WHAT THEY SEE AS WRONG.
I do not want another flame war on iab. ;=;
THE BIBLE SAYS MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN!
Hell, my parents met on a blind date and they`re absolutely adorable together.
Okay that`s it for me and random relationship advice.. o_O
Just beware of the scary butch ones that`ll crush you beneath their super-sized Dockers.
I wonder if sex is out the window. I can`t imagine either of them putting on a strap-on.
Myself, I couldn`t care less about gay weddings.
sweet.. in a weird way.:]