Texas Megachurch Minister Busted

Submitted by: fancylad 8 years ago

Yep, it was for the usual thing all ministers are busted for.
There are 81 comments:
Male 43
ministers are differant than priests
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Male 13
Drove 200+ miles with multiple condoms...just to buy her a coke huh?.....can`t wait to hear his defense in court..."She told me she was Emily Rose and I was going to do the lords work and heal her from the evil she was under!!"....
Politicans and Preachers...both snakes in sheeps clothing!
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Female 16
all of us!
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Female 16
Now that I have said that, I in NO WAY am saying what this man did is right or acceptable or excusable. We came to a church that had dealt with this kind of thing before, and believe me, it took forever for people to trust that my husband was different and wouldn`t betray them. I have seen this happen far too many times. And it makes my husband`s job harder each time it happens. But this man is truly no different than any one of us who struggles not to do something we know is wrong or bad for us- no matter what we believe.

So I pray for his family and the people who trusted him, and for everyone looking at this situation and losing more and more faith that Christians can have any good in them. It`s not about us though. We will fall- we`re not perfect. Only through Christ are we made clean, and I believe this man can be too.

So that`s my thoughts...
Oh, and to all who are saying this happened because he`s "sexually repressed"- I`ll just say- that`s not true with all o

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Female 16
Hmm... so many thoughts, first being no one is really going to care what I have to say. But here I go anyway-

My husband is a minister. We are saddened and disgusted by this. The anger I feel when I hear of yet another church leader doing something so incredibly stupid...

But I also, somewhat, understand. When you`re in a position of leadership (not just in a church) there is an expectation of "perfection" and that you`re not tempted by anything. And sadly, especially in the church, there is little grace or mercy and most leaders feel they can`t be honest about struggles they are having. So these temptations keep building and there are little "slip ups" and it becomes a cycle of great regret and vowing to change and then falling again and not being able to ask for help. The risk of being condemed is too great in most cases. So it gets worse and worse and, I believe, the devil gets more and more of a foothold. (continued...)

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Male 577
theHUSHSOUND: isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking.


the Catholic church has friggin priests

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Male 474
RE: an earlier post

a box a of magnum condoms... and it wasn`t like it was a smaller box either, it looked like a 16 pack... which means 1 of 2 things to me. 1 the box is there to psyche the 13 yo girl out and make her think she`s getting a real "stud", meanwhile he`s either got a box of normal condoms he will actualy use, or a box of rubber bands. OR he planned on a long visit in which case that girl might not have seen the light day for a while.

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Male 4
There`s a surprise...
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Male 1,024
When you actively suppress healthy sexuality, as fundamentalists (i`m extrapolating from "megachurch") are known to do, it usually comes out in some very bad ways. the list is long.
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Male 5,094
^^ No, please no, don`t start it again...
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Female 648
THis is EXACTLY why Jesus exists... the world is getting SO SCREWED UP... Do you think God is happy with this? No. Trust me, this world will get crappier and crappier until Jesus decides He`s had enough, and He returns, to smite these people who use "HIS" name to do things like this.
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Female 19
Hellz yeah, I live in Bryan, TX! Or cops caught that bastard!
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Male 237
TheGrag- you`re right, I`m sorry for making a generalization based on anecdotal and personal evidence. Let me rephrase that- and pretend I put arsonist in that blank instead.
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Female 427
...and he can get ass-raped by Satan in prison for a while.
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Male 1,497
TheBLB, you said you`re sure lots of gay people dont want to be gay. This is creepy..."Hey, I`m gay man, but I don`t want to be, ya know?" Does this even sound right? Alright, maybe a few homosexuals don`t want to be gay to exscape all the gay bashing and homophobes protesting, I just doubt that a lot of them would. Also, just because 1/3 of your family is gay doesn`t mean you know much about every gay person.
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Female 1,134
I think every preste and a reveran should get a criminal background check
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Female 59
So...he drove 300 miles to buy her a coca-cola...wow. I really believe that one.
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Female 188
thats not that suprising pf a suspect
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Male 375
I lol`d at his defense - "I just wanted to buy her a Coke".
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Female 239
Wow...that`s desperation. 200 miles for sex with a 13 year old? Plus he had the worse excuse EVER. To buy her a coke!?! C`MON!
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Male 1,204
DANGIT THEY CAUGHT ME! NUTS!
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Male 56
Apparently he`s not just a sick perv, but a sick hung-like-a-horse perv....Box of Magnum condoms...lol
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Male 89
and this b Morbidframes new account BTW
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Male 89
I TOTALY DIDNT SEE THAT COMING..... *lie*
im glad im pagan!!! IM A PROUD PAGAN!!! WOOT
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Male 237
TheGrag: I don`t get what you said, but I`m assuming it`s not positive. about 1/3 of all my immediate family is gay... I don`t just make this stuff up.
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Male 101
Whilst I agree that this man has done a horrible thing, and I hope he is severely reprimanded for it, I need to disagree with a lot of generalisations on here. Not all priests and ministers prey on minors, and not all megachurches are greedy for money. Unfortunately, it`s the people who mess up who get all the publicity.

I`m from Sydney, and there are a number of our citizens who, being followers of Christ, give their all for the people around them. Father Chris O`Reilly works with homeless kids, and has an amazing ability to identify with them. Paul Moulds heads the Salvation Army`s Oasis Support Network in Redfern. No person, homeless, drug-addicted or otherwise, is too difficult for him to turn away. Before I moved from the area to be closer to work, I was inspired by my former minister`s tireless work for his small church. He lives, breathes and works the life of Jesus.

May we, if we are to say how bad Christians are, also show that some of them are doing good things?

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Male 50
I go to Prestonwood but I`m not a huge fan of the church. It`s too big and they spend too much money. I never knew this man but I do hope he gets what he deserves for having, first of all, committed such a crime, and second, for perpetuating the bad clergyman image.
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Male 20
"Christianity teaches sexual repression!"

Christianity teaches sexual maturity and responsibility, anything else (i.e. chastity for life) is taught by the MAN MADE churches.

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Male 20
"Dear Christians,

Please stop screwing our children.

Regards,
A concerned parent."

Dear Davymid

please stop stereotyping based on a VERY small percentage of people

Regards,
A person who doesn`t want their children to be as closed minded as people like you

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Male 99
is this the exception to IAB rule #2?
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Female 1,212
WTF.. Why? ppl are messed up.
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Female 2,228
Excellent points Ballthazaq, well argued. {Thumbs up!}
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Male 169
Yeah. I`m in CO. We have Ted Haggard... ya know, the guy who "didn`t" have gay sex with a guy in Denver and who "didn`t" buy meth off of the same guy, etc.

They do it because they don`t think they will get caught. It`s the whole "untouchable" thing that the Christians have going on.

This is just one more example of how they are just as subject to consequences as the rest of us are.

I just wonder what the people who attend his megachurch think about all of this.

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Male 4,547
P.S. I`ll be waiting for you to post the other ~218 cases of Child Sexual Abuse reported today.

Ya know I can`t think why people think it`s the ministers all the time...

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Male 395
Christianity teaches sexual repression!
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Male 30
I`m sure his "flock" will forgive him and they`ll keep giving him their paychecks.
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Male 1,497
TheBLB"I`m sure lots of gay people don`t want to be gay"

Do i need to explain this?

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Male 10,440
Fear the MEGACHURCH! it will swoop down and assimilate you!
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Male 7,933
wow davymid, your the goodest reader here, obvusly yu can si wat baalthazaq wrote and stuff
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Male 203
I thought the normally went for the altar boys
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Female 706
Excuse me. Davymid?

I understand your concern, but not only Christians screw around on kids. And not all Christians do.

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Male 10,440
MEGACHURCH! hahahahaa... I haven`t stopped laughing at that word...
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Female 1,134
lol I though it was about the pologamist church
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Male 36
Oh dear... If we can`t trust the Minister of the Megachurch, we can`t trust ANYONE! X-(
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Male 12,138
Dear Christians,

Please stop screwing our children.

Regards,
A concerned parent.

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Male 1,162
at least it was a 13 year old girl instead of a boy. I mean, he`s got his dick pointing in the right place. He just needs to shoot for a higher number.
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Male 12
LOL, he said he was buyin her a coke after being caugt with a webcam and condoms in the car and driving 200 miles. Hmmm, bit suspicious...
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Male 2,372
What a piece of sh*t!

A man in his position should be setting a better example!

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Male 237
Sorry for the triple, but hooray for the non-violent debate!!!!! Candy for all.
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Male 237
BakaNeko: I`m pretty sure that pedophilia probably isn`t something you want to do. I`m sure lots of gay people don`t want to be gay (I`m NOT equalizing them!!!!), and I`m sure a lot of things human beings do that are stupid they didn`t want to fully do in the first place.

It was probably something that started off small and got out of hand.

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Male 237
When I was in school (it was an arts/christian university), they had you do an exit interview before you gradded if you were gonna work with kids.

They asked "in what way could you see yourself screwing this ministry up?" and the answer was usually "Sexual misconduct" or "Money problems"

The protestant church generally wants it`s pastors to admit when they have problems and help them. I`m sure everyone`s really glad he`s outed.

PS- I don`t think he was a children`s pastor

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Male 4,547
In summary:
You can blame religion, but the fact of the matter is, you`re stereotyping, and being dishonest with yourself.

The sad part is that you actually don`t see it. It`s worse than the blind faith of any theist. It`s illogical. It`s stupid. It`s ignorant. And I`ve watched people do it for years.

LOOK at the numbers. Unfortunately in the world we live in we would EXPECT well over 20`000 pedophiles in the clergy. Well over 100`000 worldwide, and all in all this is nothing compared to the ~100`000`000 pedophiles in the world.

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Male 4,547
Most pedophiles are actually parents. Not ministers or priests.

The thing is, no dad is going to sit there and go "Omg, drating fathers! They`re to blame!", nor is anyone who likes their dad, or has experience with a regular parent. Has a friend who is a dad. Etc.

But see a priest do it and you can make a stereotype. And you do.

Is that your problem, not the priesthood?

Only counting Catholic priests, there are just over 400`000 men, 2/3 of religious leaders in Christianity.

And yet, the problem lies with about 5% of the male population as a whole. Which is why almost 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 10 boys are abused.

Out of the 400`000, you would expect 20`000 to be pedophiles if the priest population were just like other men.

Considering pedophiles often CHOOSE positions of power over children (Mayor/Teacher/Stepfather/Minister/Policeman), you would expect the numbers to be higher.

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Male 9,306
Sad...
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Female 993
the picture that they show of him a little over half-way through is def a creepy pedophile picture.
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Female 665
that`s so sad and sick. why do these gross people keep wanting to do this to poor kids? why cant` they just let kids be kids. but hooray for one less of them.
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Male 473
Busted!
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Male 176
Thank you skyblue, I was hoping I wasn`t the only one who noticed that. He should have gone into porn, not religion.
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Male 96
and he wasn`t after a BOY!?!?
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Female 193
Did anyone else notice that the minister had Magnum condoms?
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Male 7,933
"There`s a difference between "ministers" and "priests"?"

Ministers can get married, priest cant.

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Female 112
QueenZira: I agree with you about the fact that there is very little difference between priests and ministers.
Legacy: "extreme differences"? have you researched them both thoroughly? I think not.
All that matters is that this creep is behind bars! Thank God!
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Female 2,228
I don`t think so, I checked, seems like different words for the same thing. {Note: not looking for a heated debate either}
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Female 2,228
There`s a difference between "ministers" and "priests"?
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Male 2,600
In a few shots it looked like the suspect was crying.
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Female 447
LOL at TheNineXXX. A minister can have sex. Gosh.
Just glad he`s not a minister anymore.
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Male 395
Unlikely suspect! I think not! Sexual repression leads to bad things!
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Female 738
And I think this guy being a minister has little to do with it; a similar shock value would have been experienced if this guy were a teacher, cop, or other profession we expect to help protect our children.
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Male 741
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Female 738
No- Catholics have priests.
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Male 7,933
"isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking."

There are Catholic Ministers?

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Male 3,301
Chris Hansen has just been pwned.

They should make a NBC miniseries thats about busting pastors.

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Female 731
Please no debates.
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Male 75
When did all this begin?
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Male 667
"Unlikely Suspect"? Not Really...
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Male 486
blah blah w/e
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Female 694
I really hope this doesn`t turn into a religious debate... like odeed said. Anyway, that`s fantastic...
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Female 541
isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking.
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Male 452
Now please, let us not turn this into a religious debate.... there is already one in full swing, head over to the creationists thread.
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Male 34
im not surprised

and ill keep it to myself

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Male 19,854
Link: Texas Megachurch Minister Busted [Rate Link] - Yep, it was for the usual thing all ministers are busted for.
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