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Date: 05/17/08 07:03 PM

81 Responses to Texas Megachurch Minister Busted

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2008 at 5:54 pm
    Link: Texas Megachurch Minister Busted - Yep, it was for the usual thing all ministers are busted for.
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    Axelripper Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:09 pm
    im not surprised

    and ill keep it to myself

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    odeed Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    Now please, let us not turn this into a religious debate.... there is already one in full swing, head over to the creationists thread.
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    theHUSHSOUND Female 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking.
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    Kisato Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    I really hope this doesn`t turn into a religious debate... like odeed said. Anyway, that`s fantastic...
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    citadel Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:23 pm
    blah blah w/e
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    hyeonkim0805 Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:27 pm
    "Unlikely Suspect"? Not Really...
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    haveabadday5 Male 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    When did all this begin?
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    Kay62442 Female 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    Please no debates.
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:37 pm
    Chris Hansen has just been pwned.

    They should make a NBC miniseries thats about busting pastors.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    "isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking."

    There are Catholic Ministers?

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:40 pm
    No- Catholics have priests.
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    Monsdurr Male 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:42 pm
    He`s just following jesus

    Remember?

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:42 pm
    And I think this guy being a minister has little to do with it; a similar shock value would have been experienced if this guy were a teacher, cop, or other profession we expect to help protect our children.
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    TheNineXXX Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:45 pm
    Unlikely suspect! I think not! Sexual repression leads to bad things!
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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:51 pm
    LOL at TheNineXXX. A minister can have sex. Gosh.
    Just glad he`s not a minister anymore.
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 7:55 pm
    In a few shots it looked like the suspect was crying.
  18. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    There`s a difference between "ministers" and "priests"?
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 8:15 pm
    I don`t think so, I checked, seems like different words for the same thing. {Note: not looking for a heated debate either}
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    londoncallme Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 8:22 pm
    QueenZira: I agree with you about the fact that there is very little difference between priests and ministers.
    Legacy: "extreme differences"? have you researched them both thoroughly? I think not.
    All that matters is that this creep is behind bars! Thank God!
  21. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 8:23 pm
    "There`s a difference between "ministers" and "priests"?"

    Ministers can get married, priest cant.

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    skyblue_15 Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 8:51 pm
    Did anyone else notice that the minister had Magnum condoms?
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    lecanadien Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 9:02 pm
    and he wasn`t after a BOY!?!?
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    ANCB Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 9:52 pm
    Thank you skyblue, I was hoping I wasn`t the only one who noticed that. He should have gone into porn, not religion.
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    Tdogg111 Male 13-17
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    Busted!
  26. Profile photo of BakaNeko728
    BakaNeko728 Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    that`s so sad and sick. why do these gross people keep wanting to do this to poor kids? why cant` they just let kids be kids. but hooray for one less of them.
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    JazzyPiano Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:25 pm
    the picture that they show of him a little over half-way through is def a creepy pedophile picture.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:26 pm
    Sad...
  29. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:52 pm
    Most pedophiles are actually parents. Not ministers or priests.

    The thing is, no dad is going to sit there and go "Omg, drating fathers! They`re to blame!", nor is anyone who likes their dad, or has experience with a regular parent. Has a friend who is a dad. Etc.

    But see a priest do it and you can make a stereotype. And you do.

    Is that your problem, not the priesthood?

    Only counting Catholic priests, there are just over 400`000 men, 2/3 of religious leaders in Christianity.

    And yet, the problem lies with about 5% of the male population as a whole. Which is why almost 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 10 boys are abused.

    Out of the 400`000, you would expect 20`000 to be pedophiles if the priest population were just like other men.

    Considering pedophiles often CHOOSE positions of power over children (Mayor/Teacher/Stepfather/Minister/Policeman), you would expect the numbers to be higher.

  30. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 10:57 pm
    In summary:
    You can blame religion, but the fact of the matter is, you`re stereotyping, and being dishonest with yourself.

    The sad part is that you actually don`t see it. It`s worse than the blind faith of any theist. It`s illogical. It`s stupid. It`s ignorant. And I`ve watched people do it for years.

    LOOK at the numbers. Unfortunately in the world we live in we would EXPECT well over 20`000 pedophiles in the clergy. Well over 100`000 worldwide, and all in all this is nothing compared to the ~100`000`000 pedophiles in the world.

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 11:06 pm
    When I was in school (it was an arts/christian university), they had you do an exit interview before you gradded if you were gonna work with kids.

    They asked "in what way could you see yourself screwing this ministry up?" and the answer was usually "Sexual misconduct" or "Money problems"

    The protestant church generally wants it`s pastors to admit when they have problems and help them. I`m sure everyone`s really glad he`s outed.

    PS- I don`t think he was a children`s pastor

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    BakaNeko: I`m pretty sure that pedophilia probably isn`t something you want to do. I`m sure lots of gay people don`t want to be gay (I`m NOT equalizing them!!!!), and I`m sure a lot of things human beings do that are stupid they didn`t want to fully do in the first place.

    It was probably something that started off small and got out of hand.

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2008 at 11:09 pm
    Sorry for the triple, but hooray for the non-violent debate!!!!! Candy for all.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2008 at 12:31 am
    What a piece of sh*t!

    A man in his position should be setting a better example!

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    Chewybaco Male 13-17
    12 posts
    May 18, 2008 at 1:09 am
    LOL, he said he was buyin her a coke after being caugt with a webcam and condoms in the car and driving 200 miles. Hmmm, bit suspicious...
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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 1:56 am
    at least it was a 13 year old girl instead of a boy. I mean, he`s got his dick pointing in the right place. He just needs to shoot for a higher number.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2008 at 3:05 am
    Dear Christians,

    Please stop screwing our children.

    Regards,
    A concerned parent.

  38. Profile photo of Superswan
    Superswan Male 13-17
    36 posts
    May 18, 2008 at 5:56 am
    Oh dear... If we can`t trust the Minister of the Megachurch, we can`t trust ANYONE! X-(
  39. Profile photo of Skyira
    Skyira Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 6:45 am
    lol I though it was about the pologamist church
  40. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 6:54 am
    MEGACHURCH! hahahahaa... I haven`t stopped laughing at that word...
  41. Profile photo of Starshine24
    Starshine24 Female 13-17
    706 posts
    May 18, 2008 at 6:58 am
    Excuse me. Davymid?

    I understand your concern, but not only Christians screw around on kids. And not all Christians do.

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    paddyboom Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 7:54 am
    I thought the normally went for the altar boys
  43. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:17 am
    wow davymid, your the goodest reader here, obvusly yu can si wat baalthazaq wrote and stuff
  44. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:28 am
    Fear the MEGACHURCH! it will swoop down and assimilate you!
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    TheGrag Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:32 am
    TheBLB"I`m sure lots of gay people don`t want to be gay"

    Do i need to explain this?

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    sheeshboy Male 40-49
    31 posts
    May 18, 2008 at 8:32 am
    I`m sure his "flock" will forgive him and they`ll keep giving him their paychecks.
  47. Profile photo of TheNineXXX
    TheNineXXX Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:37 am
    Christianity teaches sexual repression!
  48. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 10:08 am
    P.S. I`ll be waiting for you to post the other ~218 cases of Child Sexual Abuse reported today.

    Ya know I can`t think why people think it`s the ministers all the time...

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    chrisfalcon Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 11:06 am
    Yeah. I`m in CO. We have Ted Haggard... ya know, the guy who "didn`t" have gay sex with a guy in Denver and who "didn`t" buy meth off of the same guy, etc.

    They do it because they don`t think they will get caught. It`s the whole "untouchable" thing that the Christians have going on.

    This is just one more example of how they are just as subject to consequences as the rest of us are.

    I just wonder what the people who attend his megachurch think about all of this.

  50. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    Excellent points Ballthazaq, well argued. {Thumbs up!}
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    Tekno Female 30-39
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    May 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm
    WTF.. Why? ppl are messed up.
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    itsas333cret Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    is this the exception to IAB rule #2?
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    MaFSotL Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm
    "Dear Christians,

    Please stop screwing our children.

    Regards,
    A concerned parent."

    Dear Davymid

    please stop stereotyping based on a VERY small percentage of people

    Regards,
    A person who doesn`t want their children to be as closed minded as people like you

  54. Profile photo of MaFSotL
    MaFSotL Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    "Christianity teaches sexual repression!"

    Christianity teaches sexual maturity and responsibility, anything else (i.e. chastity for life) is taught by the MAN MADE churches.

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    funkyllamas Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    I go to Prestonwood but I`m not a huge fan of the church. It`s too big and they spend too much money. I never knew this man but I do hope he gets what he deserves for having, first of all, committed such a crime, and second, for perpetuating the bad clergyman image.
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    natkaz_99 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Whilst I agree that this man has done a horrible thing, and I hope he is severely reprimanded for it, I need to disagree with a lot of generalisations on here. Not all priests and ministers prey on minors, and not all megachurches are greedy for money. Unfortunately, it`s the people who mess up who get all the publicity.

    I`m from Sydney, and there are a number of our citizens who, being followers of Christ, give their all for the people around them. Father Chris O`Reilly works with homeless kids, and has an amazing ability to identify with them. Paul Moulds heads the Salvation Army`s Oasis Support Network in Redfern. No person, homeless, drug-addicted or otherwise, is too difficult for him to turn away. Before I moved from the area to be closer to work, I was inspired by my former minister`s tireless work for his small church. He lives, breathes and works the life of Jesus.

    May we, if we are to say how bad Christians are, also show that some of them are doing good things?

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    TheGrag: I don`t get what you said, but I`m assuming it`s not positive. about 1/3 of all my immediate family is gay... I don`t just make this stuff up.
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    xXZeroXx Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm
    I TOTALY DIDNT SEE THAT COMING..... *lie*
    im glad im pagan!!! IM A PROUD PAGAN!!! WOOT
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    xXZeroXx Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 3:59 pm
    and this b Morbidframes new account BTW
  60. Profile photo of AmigoNY
    AmigoNY Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm
    Apparently he`s not just a sick perv, but a sick hung-like-a-horse perv....Box of Magnum condoms...lol
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm
    DANGIT THEY CAUGHT ME! NUTS!
  62. Profile photo of PsychoSis11
    PsychoSis11 Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    Wow...that`s desperation. 200 miles for sex with a 13 year old? Plus he had the worse excuse EVER. To buy her a coke!?! C`MON!
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    gozirra Male 40-49
    375 posts
    May 18, 2008 at 6:29 pm
    I lol`d at his defense - "I just wanted to buy her a Coke".
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    MUSICISSWEET Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 6:48 pm
    thats not that suprising pf a suspect
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    Vegan_Freak Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    So...he drove 300 miles to buy her a coca-cola...wow. I really believe that one.
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    Skyira Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:02 pm
    I think every preste and a reveran should get a criminal background check
  67. Profile photo of TheGrag
    TheGrag Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2008 at 8:17 pm
    TheBLB, you said you`re sure lots of gay people dont want to be gay. This is creepy..."Hey, I`m gay man, but I don`t want to be, ya know?" Does this even sound right? Alright, maybe a few homosexuals don`t want to be gay to exscape all the gay bashing and homophobes protesting, I just doubt that a lot of them would. Also, just because 1/3 of your family is gay doesn`t mean you know much about every gay person.
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    KindlyKat Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    ...and he can get ass-raped by Satan in prison for a while.
  69. Profile photo of TheBLB
    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    TheGrag- you`re right, I`m sorry for making a generalization based on anecdotal and personal evidence. Let me rephrase that- and pretend I put arsonist in that blank instead.
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    xeden Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 10:26 pm
    Hellz yeah, I live in Bryan, TX! Or cops caught that bastard!
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    LKJSlain Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2008 at 11:47 pm
    THis is EXACTLY why Jesus exists... the world is getting SO SCREWED UP... Do you think God is happy with this? No. Trust me, this world will get crappier and crappier until Jesus decides He`s had enough, and He returns, to smite these people who use "HIS" name to do things like this.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    May 19, 2008 at 5:27 am
    ^^ No, please no, don`t start it again...
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    jetmark Male 30-39
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    May 19, 2008 at 8:03 am
    When you actively suppress healthy sexuality, as fundamentalists (i`m extrapolating from "megachurch") are known to do, it usually comes out in some very bad ways. the list is long.
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    Wolf1992 Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2008 at 8:11 am
    There`s a surprise...
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
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    May 19, 2008 at 8:26 am
    RE: an earlier post

    a box a of magnum condoms... and it wasn`t like it was a smaller box either, it looked like a 16 pack... which means 1 of 2 things to me. 1 the box is there to psyche the 13 yo girl out and make her think she`s getting a real "stud", meanwhile he`s either got a box of normal condoms he will actualy use, or a box of rubber bands. OR he planned on a long visit in which case that girl might not have seen the light day for a while.

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    stumped4ever Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2008 at 10:46 am
    theHUSHSOUND: isn`t it more catholic ministers that are busted?? i`m not sure, i`m asking.


    the Catholic church has friggin priests

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    beccas_song Female 18-29
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    May 20, 2008 at 1:12 am
    Hmm... so many thoughts, first being no one is really going to care what I have to say. But here I go anyway-

    My husband is a minister. We are saddened and disgusted by this. The anger I feel when I hear of yet another church leader doing something so incredibly stupid...

    But I also, somewhat, understand. When you`re in a position of leadership (not just in a church) there is an expectation of "perfection" and that you`re not tempted by anything. And sadly, especially in the church, there is little grace or mercy and most leaders feel they can`t be honest about struggles they are having. So these temptations keep building and there are little "slip ups" and it becomes a cycle of great regret and vowing to change and then falling again and not being able to ask for help. The risk of being condemed is too great in most cases. So it gets worse and worse and, I believe, the devil gets more and more of a foothold. (continued...)

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    beccas_song Female 18-29
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    May 20, 2008 at 1:20 am
    Now that I have said that, I in NO WAY am saying what this man did is right or acceptable or excusable. We came to a church that had dealt with this kind of thing before, and believe me, it took forever for people to trust that my husband was different and wouldn`t betray them. I have seen this happen far too many times. And it makes my husband`s job harder each time it happens. But this man is truly no different than any one of us who struggles not to do something we know is wrong or bad for us- no matter what we believe.

    So I pray for his family and the people who trusted him, and for everyone looking at this situation and losing more and more faith that Christians can have any good in them. It`s not about us though. We will fall- we`re not perfect. Only through Christ are we made clean, and I believe this man can be too.

    So that`s my thoughts...
    Oh, and to all who are saying this happened because he`s "sexually repressed"- I`ll just say- that`s not true with all o

  79. Profile photo of beccas_song
    beccas_song Female 18-29
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    May 20, 2008 at 1:21 am
    all of us!
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    MetalRob Male 30-39
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    June 11, 2008 at 12:45 pm
    Drove 200+ miles with multiple condoms...just to buy her a coke huh?.....can`t wait to hear his defense in court..."She told me she was Emily Rose and I was going to do the lords work and heal her from the evil she was under!!"....
    Politicans and Preachers...both snakes in sheeps clothing!
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    ronronbert Male 70 & Over
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    June 29, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    ministers are differant than priests

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