Principal Outs Gay Students

Submitted by: eugenius 9 years ago in

""I mean, she called my mother and outed me to my mother!""
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Male 2,422
It`s always bad when americans make headlines "around the world"
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Female 6
this would neeever happen where i live (in bulgaria ) so we`re really more free .a girl actually once did a sttripteeze on the teacher`s desk :-P

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Female 652
wow that is not right. College students? Seems like they are over 18 so why the heck is she doing this?
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Male 3,369
Sadly it also attracts douchebags like yourself tourettes
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Male 957
iab is a liberal cesspool full of fags.
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Female 691
that is so wrong. People shouldn`t be forcefully outed, when they want to tell people their sexuality, then they can. Other people shouldn`t do it for them.
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Male 742
Phuck you Victor you homophobic bastard
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Female 40
oh and our mayor is a crackhead that won`t submit to a drug test
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Female 40
This is stupid... everyone cares so much about this whole gay issue. The truth is in Memphis that fourth graders have sex at school; four adults and two children were murdered at one time and the killer might get off; race hatred is so violent that schools are being made to bus black kids away from the suburb school and private schools charge $20,000 to save white kids from the harsh world. But HEY all that`s fine because one principal outed students. Nevermind that worse happens... a girl was run off from my school because she was a lesbian and moved towns. This is by FAR not the worst and people need to calm down. Peace!
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Male 3,369
togetec. I guess your still dealing with your sexuality. Dont worry, when you do decide to come out of the closet, no one here will judge you.
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Male 214
Keith will be a horrible parent
Keith will force his kids to commit suicide
Keith is a homophobe
Keith is an non-nice individual
Keith is conservative
Keith is a pot head
Keith is why our society is corrupt
Keith hates children
Keith against child labor laws
Keith is an immoral human being.


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Male 608
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!! STUPID F4GS!!!!!!. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAA. oh well. theyll all burn in hell. fags.
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Female 154
Keith...Are you...-serious-..."No son, don`t be gay"?....I`m sorry but I lol`d. A lot. And then I felt sorry for you, and if you have any children, I feel sorry for them. You say it like as soon as the father says "No son, don`t be gay." to his kid, the kid will just go "WAY`LL SURE THING POPS, I`LL START LOOKING AT YOUR ISSUES OF PLAYBOY IN A JIFFY RIGHT HERE, JUST LET ME BREAK UP WITH MAH BOYFRIEND!" If you meant something different, I apologize, but that`s really how it seemed... o_o I mean it`s totally different to say "No, don`t have sex in school" and not "No son, don`t be gay."...I just cannot get over that. "No son, don`t be gay."
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Female 42
Een if it was an issue, things should have been carried out differently.
1. Why the heck would you make a list of couples? The dating scene in high school is always changing. Making a list of couples-at-the-moment seems pointless to me. So, first of all, that list shouldn`t have been been created.
2. Why on earth would you share that information (the specific names of the couples) with parents instead of just sending all the parents letters saying that there is a problem at the school with public sexual behavior so they should speak with their kids about it?
3. There was no thought about the effects of this on the principal`s part, clearly. Not just in terms of homosexual couples, but for heterosexual couples as well. I know plenty of people in high school who dated and their families never knew for different reasons (some parents were racist/ disapproving)
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Female 151
This is insane... My shpeal on the issue: IF (and ONLY IF) the kids had been clearly found having sex in public (which is illegal), THEN the principal should have reprimended the kids FIRST, informed the police, and FINALLY called the parents. However, this was CLEARLY NOT the way things happened, and, therefore, the principal should be reprimended. IF she had followed these exact steps in this order, THEN I would maybe possibly be ok with it, depending on certain variables (like the guy`s feelings about getting outed to his mom)
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Female 71
I think it`s a little stupid to have called the parents. :\ I`m not really sure if it said anything about saying who their kid is with, but for gay couples who haven`t told their parents, that would be a bad situation.
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Male 1
Tell me if I`m wrong, but didn`t the principal tell the parents that their kids, gay or straight, are in a relationship? I don`t think it has anything to do with homophobia. She "outed" all the couples.
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Male 74
It`s poo like this that starts school riots. Honestly, I think that the principal should be sacked.
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Female 427
I don`t know... if I *were* a parent, I would want to know what`s up. However, it`s not the schools place. ONCE AGAIN, if the parents are so concerned with what their child is doing, simply "ask". Talk to your kids, form a relationship. They want to tell you because they love you, and that`s probably why their so worried in the first place. Disappointment from your loved ones is a hard pill to swallow.

The school is in the major wrong for exploiting the minors like that. It`s not their job, it`s not what their there for.

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Male 106
The gay supporter says "how could they do this to children?". Well, children don`t fool around f***ing on the lawn.
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Female 51
As much as it galls me to have to say this, Minors really don`t have many rights at all legally. They don`t even have a right to own property. Many parents allow them a great deal of latitude, but much as in the case of a parent reading a diary, or checking the child`s browser cache, or even just viewing their myspace or facebook, there is no legal gaurantee of privacy for a minor from their parents. I just hope that this leads more families to discuss important issues with their children. (and by the way, anyone who thinks that all High School students do is kiss... you`re very naive)
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Male 24
I think the principal`s intentions were good, but she went about it like a drating idiot. SHe obviously has no idea how difficult it can be, being homosexual and having your friends and family not know about it. Personally, I`m not gay, but I know many people who are, one of them being my own mother. Since my mom`s homosexuality is not something I keep secret, a fair amount of people from school have come to me for advice. It can tear someone up inside, wondering what all their friends and family will think. So when somebody outs you to your parents, that`s drated up.
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Male 4
seriously. what is up with all you people (Tdogg111, soro, thursdaylark) saying "i don`t think this is right," or "i think kids should have privacy in this area?" it doesn`t matter what you think - the law is what matters, and quite simply, the law strips minors of a variety of their rights as soon as they walk onto a highschool campus. you think if the school can tell you what clothes to wear, control your every movement in the school, even search all your belongings (including your car out in the parking lot), that they can`t tell your parents if you`re engaging in sexual activity (whether sex or not)?
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Male 3,369

This is keith! Would you let this idiot have kids?

Didnt think so!

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Female 4,225
Keith is probably conservative
Keith is probably close minded
Keith is probably a lousy father
Keith is probably going to get investigated
Keith is probably very close minded
Keith is probably an ass
Keith is probably a somthing fanatic
Keith is probably taking some things too seriously
Keith should get a life and get a brain.


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Male 109
Keith is properly a pedophile.
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Female 4,225
Keith`s a moron, plus there`s another gay thread. I want o know what was going through the sick ladies head.

If kids are gaving sex out of school- theb school can`t go rubbing their nose it it.

Called privacy

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Male 693
Honestly.. I don`t really care what happens in anyone`s bed. So I believe that the school had no right to out them, outing them won`t stop them form having sexual relations..
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Male 2,306
You must be kidding Keith2^.

That`s called child-abuse. You`re a sick bastard.

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Male 2,591
I agree with whomever said kids DO NOT have a right to privacy. They are MINORS PEOPLE!! Sure I absolutely hated this but when I became an adult I realized it is absolutely necessary for adults to be in complete control of their children until they are 18. If a parent say`s "No son, don`t be gay." that kid should do as his parents say. If not they get an ass whuppin. I was a bad ass kid and if my parents didn`t beat my ass for doing bad poo and constantly spying on me I would totally be in prison or dead.
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Male 473
I totally agree with maddog. Anyone who thinks this was right and justified is a complete moron.
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Male 313
SUE SUE SUE SUE SUE SUE SUE SUE. i am so happy we don`t have as much of this bulls**t here in england
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Male 3,369
^^

Nice find. It`s everything I`ve been saying all along. This weekends worth of threads has really shown us who the idiots are on IAB!


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Female 657
in class. Nothing ever as lewd as out right sex. My higschool was not in the middle of nowhere, either. The school was 5 minutes away from Daytona Beach, FL and an hour away from Orlando, Fl.


The diction of the list alone shows her stance on homosexuality. By making a distinction between homosexual couples and any other type of couple shows her prejudice.

Here are links to the articles I was referencing:
ABC News Report
NBC news report via WOAI news
MTV and Logo owned Gay365 News Report

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Female 657
Alot of the arguments (for and against) this storry can be quelled by viewing the news articles provided from Rebel and Turnshroud earlier in the thread.

1.) There were other couples included in this but only one child, Nicholas who was homosexual, had his parents alerted.
2.)This particular student had never previously been accused of sexual misconduct.
3.)There was no actual sexual misconduct in question for Nicholas. He was simply gay.
4.) The conversation did not just include information such as "Your child has been acting inappropriately in school", specific language such as "Did you know your son was gay?" was used instead.

There is also other intriguing information such as the teacher interrupting class via intercom demanding she be alerted of any "hetero or homo" couples.

Outrageous actions. And for anyone who wants to know, the highschool I attended had 3,000+ students and the worse we`ve ever had was a boy expelled for masturbating

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Male 5
Way to go protecting your students, a fine example of schools NOT doing their jobs. Oh and BTW if you need the school to tell you what your kids are up to your doing a real good job as a parent.
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Female 262
Parents have no right to know.

Just because you have birthed and raised someone doesn`t give you a handle on thier life. Once they get to a certain age children have thier own needs wants and desires. They aren`t the concern of the parent. A parents job is to look after a child, not dictate to them. Your children are not you, they don`t have to share you life view and the sooner people learn this the sooner we can all move on.

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Female 1,496
Public school is a joke. You should see what happens when you act out of line in private school! The least that would happen is a call to your parents. The school and your parents own your ass until you are 18. In some countries 16. Get used to it.
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Male 38
She is out of order. She broke basic rights to privacy.
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Female 127
Her actions were not about gay or straight, she wasn`t trying to "out" anyone, she was trying to deal with a problem that had been presented to her.
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Male 1,053
If it was that bad then yes expelled if just kissing then no not at all
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Male 3,369
raztits. I`m anti-stupid not anti-american...though with your president I can see why you could make that mistake.
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Male 214
o poo! i thought by outed ment the principal came out of the closet for the gay students because it says outed gay students and not students in general wow what a mix up.
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Male 214
and in Judaism, when somebody talks to the rabbi (like the priest who runs the service in the temple (church)) the rabbi is NOT supposed to tell anybody about the conversation. it is classified to everybody else. so did they have sex or just hooking up? because if they had sex then that is illegal but they can hookup cant they?
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Male 214
[email protected] cameron. "You Homophobes need to try homosexuality. It feels so gooood" your not converting anybody here lol. if i was a parent (im 15) i wouldnt WANT to know about my sons sex life. but if i had a daughter then i wouldnt want her to be a whore (my grade has a school whore and she gave head to like 20+ kids but she stopped now) but i would want to help her. i wouldnt tear up her room to find g-strings and lingerine. i bet DrewK would. drewk you are a self centered narrow minded control freak who does not care about other`s privacy. you NEED to KNOW EVERYTHING. you are a nosy SOB.
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Male 109
I`m taking a wild guess that you are anti-American. Am I right? We are a relatively young country, the UK and the rest of Europe have had time to develop culturally and socially. I`ve seen videos of the sort of racism happening in the UK. For example some of the black football(soccer) players being called "monkeys" consistently.

he wasn`t bashing America

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Male 591
privacy or not, it doesnt matter. the facts are this. the case will lose due to a few things.

1. THEY ARE MINORS. what they are doing is not allowed by law, just because most schools turn a blind eye, it doesn`t make it right.

2. It is not discrimination, as she called the straight kids as well.

3. Your going to a PUBLIC school, meaning anything you do there is on their grounds, so they choose the rules, you do not have to go there, you can go to private or homeschool. If your there, your under their rules, including this.

4. If your so worried about parents finding out, then don`t make it public knowledge. Straight (no pun intended) and simple.

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Female 1,070
I feel sorry for DrewK`s kids. They have a freaking moron for a dad.

Everyone has a right to privacy.

DrewK: It is the responsibility for the parents to take care of the problem. They first need to know about the problem.

how is this a problem. it`s just making out/sex. either way it doesn`t matter. kids do what they do. a problem would be doing drugs or maybe bringing weapons into the school, but this is normal everyday things that all teenagers do. get over it.

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Male 14
If that link doesn`t work then try this one:
ACLU -options
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Male 14
What a display of fascism.
Asking teachers to become informants and then monitor the named students for days. Then she used the information to intimidate those students.

The gay couple did Not, according to the principal herself, engage in public displays of affection.

ACLU

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Male 1,263
The_Maddog
Male, 30-39, Europe
852 Posts Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:22:54 AM
"Thats so fking wrong. By "sexual activity" I`m guessing they mean kissing. What a repressed country!

It was still a huge invasion of privacy. She didnt have to "out" anyone. She should have talked to the students first, then said if it continues she will contact their parents. Wrong wrong worng on so many levels!"


I agree.

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Female 154
Smag. I agree with you on the invasion of privacy thing. But I don`t see anywhere where her religion is the case in any of this. No. It is not obviously why she did it. Like I said before, perhaps she`s just stupid and didn`t think of what she was doing. Or maybe she just doesn`t like gays. She doesn`t have to be religious to not like gays. And I`m not defending religion. Religion is poopy (IMO). Causes too many wars and fights, and makes close mindedness happen. But I also know religion isn`t bad all the time, which is why I`m trying to figure out why you`re bringing it up when it wasn`t even mentioned in the video (I don`t think it was at least, it`s been a while since I`ve watched it and I forget things). And not only did you bring it up, you seemed to attack it which sort of says to me that you just want any excuse to attack religion. Idk. Prolly wrong, but I`m just tellin ya what I saw D:
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Male 4
start with tinker
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Male 4
apparently none of you are lawyers or have any legal training at all. why don`t you get on westlaw or lexis and get back to me after you figure out something worthwhile to say about this. spouting off "I think" doesn`t mean crap in court.
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Male 2,306
"This isn`t a gay issue at all, and I hate that their marketing it as such. I am also ashamed of i-am-bored for allowing this title. Watch the video, it says both GAY AND STRAIGHT couples were outed. I`m sorry, but this principal wasn`t out to get gays, she was out to get teenagers."

So because Hitler killed the Jews, and other groups, he wasn`t an Anti-Semite?

Oh wait...

Sorry for the Godwin, but I am not comparing someone to Hitler, but the analogy is there.

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Male 2,306
Children still have the rights of an adult; albeit, differently.
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Male 51
I think this could have probably been avoided if the principal had just left out the identity of the student`s partner, be they straight or gay. It`s not hard to say "we caught your son/daughter doing "inappropriate" acts with another student." That would have respected the student`s privacy (which they are entitled to), while informing the parents that something was going on that was against school policy (which THEY are entitled to). So yes, I expect that principal to have her ass handed to her.
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Male 30
@The Maddog

I`m taking a wild guess that you are anti-American. Am I right? We are a relatively young country, the UK and the rest of Europe have had time to develop culturally and socially. I`ve seen videos of the sort of racism happening in the UK. For example some of the black football(soccer) players being called "monkeys" consistently.

Bottom Line:

I don`t care if you bash all the gay haters and racists/fascists or whatever else, but calling a country repressed really isn`t a necessary comment. Just keep it to yourself. We as Americans don`t like it. And I`m sure you wouldn`t like it if someone bashed England or the UK as a whole.

Just asking for a little of respect. You certainly don`t have to praise the U.S, just don`t make derogatory or unnecessary comments about the U.S

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Male 214
the Head teacher`s email address is
Bea[email protected]

if you were the head teacher and you wanted to read your email...you`d go to

http://avery5.mcsk12.net/names.nsf?Login

and type in your username as BeasleyD
I WONDER IF ANYONE CAN GUESS HER PASSWORD?

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Female 2,695
wow, that really isn`t right in my eyes. okay, i`m not saying kids should hide their relationships from their parents, but their parents don`t HAVE to know. like if my mom asks me if someone`s my boyfriend or what i`m not going to lie to her, i just don`t feel comfortable talking to her about it. i`m sure a lot of people feel that way and i don`t think it`s right for the principal to invade people`s lives like that. her job is to keep kids in line, if they were showing too much pda then she should have confronted them about it.
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Male 3,369
lol..dont fear me. I only defend those who need defending. I might be atheist but I`m a humanitarian too.
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Female 2,228
Whew! And I know what you mean about the fundies, I have to argue with them repeatedly in philosophy class. Even though I always end up mopping up the floor with them, they don`t change their minds. Critical thinking must be painful for them.
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Male 3,369
QueenZira. Respect to you to. I really dont think all Americans are repressed. Just those who hide behind the bible without thinking for themselves!
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Female 738
If as a parent you don`t know what`s going on with your kid, that`s something for you to solve between yourself and your kid.

The school has no right to across the board accuse students in a couple of "inappropriate public sexual activity."

As a result of poor planning, some students who weren`t ready to come out to their parents for whatever reason now have to cope with EVERYONE knowing; that`s emotionally traumatizing even if the news is well-recieved.

aamelron- this has become a gay issue because people who are gay face persecution that straight people never will.

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Female 4,225
^^Nah, that`s America that`s slow
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Female 2,228
As an aside i went to a catholic high school. When our principle found out about a senior who was gay he wanted to expel him! Thankfully one of the faculty had the guts to stand up to him and that bozo never had his way. Culture is changing, but at an agonizingly slow pace.
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Female 4,225
^^Exactamundo! They made it a homo debate. I even tried to being back the privacy thing with n no wvail.

But I can tll you wher you are wrong. *Points to page top*

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Male 18
This isn`t a gay issue at all, and I hate that their marketing it as such. I am also ashamed of i-am-bored for allowing this title. Watch the video, it says both GAY AND STRAIGHT couples were outed. I`m sorry, but this principal wasn`t out to get gays, she was out to get teenagers.
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Female 2,228
Donk + Maddog I totally agree {bows respectfully}Please don`t think we`re all repressed prejudiced cavemen over here. Though not gay myself, I still happen to care very much about what happens to people and their rights. And gay hating and violence is just the worst thing, its no better than racism.
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Female 221
This is crazy, she did nothing wrong. If she had called the parents and said the following "He Mr. and Mrs. Blah, you`re child is a homosexual -hang up-", then yes, she would be in the wrong. What happened is she called the parents of all dating students and made them aware of that. Parents should know those things. It is extremely wrong for teenagers to hide relationships from their parents. I think the principal did a good thing.
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Male 3,369
The principle is a bitch, and she will get her ass sued off. end of story!
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Female 416
No, no, no, no, NO! You do NOT out kids before they`re ready!! and in high school, when most, if not all, of them still live with their parents?

I wanna know how many kids have been thrown out of their parents lives` because of this. It happens more often than you think. And if the rest of the kids at school find out?

Coming out is dangerous sometimes and I hope that principal understands that.

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Female 4,225
Gut felling: You are a homo because yous sound like one.

Does that make me right? No. Because I have no evidense.

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Female 164
How DARE she do that?!
What is wrong with that woman?!;-()
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Male 153
Quote: "Ooo...if Victor doesn`t look through his briefcase to find FACTS..."

Clearly press sources are less reliable than dogma and gut intuition is.

Why do I need the press? Evidence? When I can just rely on gut intuition and stubborn dogma and then claim that everyone *else* needs the evidence to prove me wrong.

Oh and everyone`s elses evidence is clearly bs; unlike my own gut feelings and my own dogma.

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Female 4,225
Dakota- please use Standard English so the civilized world understands, if not, consult a dictionaty.
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Male 4,393
wow.... :l
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Male 2
what the hell did these morons expect with inappropriote behavior dratin momos
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Female 4,225
Ooo...if Victor doesn`t look through his briefcase to find FACTS...
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Male 3,369
^^<3
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Female 876
Victor:

Kids at my school had sex in the bathrooms. Do you think this principal would consider that "public view"? Or how about prom, we had some of those.

Generally, American news is pretty biased against homosexuality- this leads me to give credibility to the news for taking their side. In my opinion, most news sources would not take such a liberal side unless it was legitimate.

But then again, maybe the moon landing was faked. Tell me, Victor, how do you know what to believe? I`m pretty sure you, like the rest of us, combine information from various sources... Then draw your own conclusions.

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Male 43
"Why do all you kids keep saying "invasion of privacy" and crap like thta? THEY ARE FREAKIN minors their parents HAVE THE RIGHTS not them."

Our legal system would and has disagreed with you. Children have the same civil rights has any adult.

At any rate, if there were children engaging in inappropriate activites, THEY should have been punished. I have a suspicion this was done with the INTENT of outing the gay students.

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Female 89
thats messed up
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Male 227
the principal is retarded...just like the kids

don`t snitch on the kids to their parents...they`ll just push you right back

kids make out and whatnot...u cant stop it

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Male 516
And jjcruiser13, did the principal release that list to all parents? I was under the impression she just wrote it down for herself. Because if that`s the case, then all the she did was notify parents of their own children`s actions, not of others.
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Female 1,004
ghostofme- do you see any parents that are like "OMG, MY SON IS STRAIGHT? WHERE DID I GO WRONG?!"
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Male 188
JJ-

You may be right. Where I tend to think this is BS lies in the inclination that the principal was out to intentionally target gays, when in fact her sole intention was just to let parents know what was going on, and in the process she felt obligated to give out both names in order to substantiate the allegation, without considering so much whether it was amoral to do so. I just find it more plausible that the principal was caught in the middle due to perhaps not following standard procedure quite like she should have, rather than assume she had malicious intent and say "OMFG SHE HATES GAYZ AND SHE OUTED THEM, PHUCK DAT B1TCH LETS SUE"

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Female 161
what a disgusting disregard for the students` rights....

what digusting statements from DrewK and Victor_Watts....

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Male 516
Notice how no one cares about the fact that the principal also notified parents about the straight student`s relationships as well? Does anyone care about them? Nope. But, oh no, a 15-year-old gay kids rights got violated because his principal called his mother and told her what her son was up to.
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Female 4,225
^^That`s a great way to put it.^^

Now, if you don`t mind, I`m going to take brake and drive down to Uncyclapedia where I will create a special little page for iab. And, if I`m lucky it will end up on iab. Anyone willing to joi me?

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Female 706
Even IF the school caught kids doing "sexual" activities that are really inappropriate, victor, she still didn`t NEED to tell the names of the other student. If a student gets in trouble at school for flooding a toilet or something like that, even if he had friends with him that were involved, the principal still doesn`t say, "your son broke the rules and is in trouble for inappropriate behavior. Now, here are the names of the OTHER students that were also involved."
That doesn`t happen. If a teen WAS involved in inappropriate sexual activity, they would call the parents and tell them that THEIR student is in trouble for inappropriate sexual activity. Why say who the other student was? That`s not for the parents of another kid to know. You`re not supposed to give information about the discipline of OTHER students to parents.
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Male 3,369
Bugger it...

Fancy lad needs to get all the ladies, 18 or over, of IAB to post their pictures. That way Vic can at least try to confirm he is indeed straight and not in the closest.

I like that idea. there are a few I want to see more of..though I`m not saying who they are.. :-O

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Male 188
"Engaging in a public sex act, which includes exposure, masturbation, oral and intercourse, is illegal. It would be the principles duty to report this to the police. If she didnt, she would be failing in her position."

She may very well have failed to thwart the sexual activity until it got out of hand, thinking that the instances wouldn`t repeat themselves enough to make an issue out of it - after all, no school wants to portray a bad image.

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Female 4,225
You know what though, the media and the principal were very harsh to the gays. There’s still the matter of the straight kids. There’s still the privacy issue.

But then, this is mostly about the gays being picked on.

Therefore, I shall redirect it back.

1) They had no evidence
2) They had no right
3) They were invading their privacy

Gays are people to you know. And technically, they sort of proved that an excess of estrogen in men and testosterone in women make them more attracted too their own sex…word of mouth from my dad. It doesn’t really prove anything though.

But maybe it cannot be helped; I think that’s what I want to say.

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Male 188
Well, obviously they didn`t call their parents to discuss grades. It`d be interesting if students really did complain about sexual behavior - one would imagine that it is atypical of a student to complain about witnessing "just kissing".
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Male 2,160
my old school had over 3000, making out, kissing, groping and the occasional quickie in bathrooms or the abandoned staircase where common occurance, then again, this is germany, where its legal to walk around naked on the street if you feel like it. I take it where victor is from they put little socks on the legs of chairs and tables still even.
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Male 3,369
Ok. I`m gonna answer Victor_Watts question as to why I think it was only kissing and not something else.

Both US and English law is similar here.
Engaging in a public sex act, which includes exposure, masturbation, oral and intercourse, is illegal. It would be the principles duty to report this to the police. If she didnt, she would be failing in her position.

That didnt happen. You lose Victor_Watts.


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There are 2500 people at mine, people make out, and they have sex at home if they do it anyways.

And sadly the so-called Free USA is a conservative, one sided, Christian, country longing to brainwash and take control.

Furthermore, their authorities are terrible and they are either moderately racist or very racist. Very few are more open-minded.

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Male 477
No Victor, the video says there had been prior complains of some sexual activity by students. They did not say which students and stated clearly that the complains about the activity was the reason for the principal making the list in the first place. They did NOT say it was the reason for calling the parents.
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Male 3,369
^^I repeat Victor_Watts..go look at the definition of "sexual activity". Dictionary.com works a treat!

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Turnshroud. Yeah I am dyslexic. I wasnt commenting on your spelling, neither do I claim to be an intellectual. I just have to try extra hard when posting. I`m grade 7 if anyone wants to look it up and learn something. Sometimes my posts..miss words out.

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Male 2,160
oh please victor, if you see a couple kiss in public do you go point a finger and shout out "OH AND NOES!" like someone more shielded and locked up than a gentleman of victorian england?
maddog is correct, that would count as sexual activity, technically, even if it sounds horrifically stupid.
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Female 4,225
Wait, my article says two students, I thought they did it to every couple?
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Male 188
I`m aware that a large array of advances can be construed as sexual behavior. Why do you people think that it HAD to be just kissing? Did you not attend a high school where kids were caught having sex? If so then I`m curious - how small was this school you attended?
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Female 4,225
Ah soryy, somtimes I use word, somtimes I don`t.

you really dyselxic?

To Microsoft Word I go

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Male 188
"Surely if these kids had actualy been caught doing anything, the school would have put that in their statement in an attempt to defend themselves. But they didn`t."

I must be missing something. The video says that the school claims "the students were engaging in sexual activity in public view"

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Male 3,369
Turnshroud. Try being a dyslexic on the internet. Thats my pain!

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Female 4,225
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.asp...

Hueey for civil liberties!

Or sh

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Male 3,369
Victor_Watts. Go look up the definition of "sexual activity". It ranges from kissing to outright sex.
Without sounding horribly crude, I could say you engaged in sexual activity with your own parents.
It would be true, if I was making a play on words. Whilst I do think you`ve kissed your parents at some point, I dont for one second think you`ve done anything else.

The school and media are twisting it all out of proportion. Just think about that before you post anything else!


"Sexual activity" is a phrase often used by the media when they only know enough to say something is going on. Kissing is not sex. The school is wrong, you are wrong and the courts will finnish this one!

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Male 2,160
victor, ironic that you speak of going with the masses when you back a side without any evidence simply to troll a site, actually, since your so interested in the matter, go do me and the others here a favor and research the matter for us, present your results here. I´d find it interesting, but please do keep it neutral and factual.
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Female 4,225
Rebel,welcome to the iab complex, only 10% are intellectuals.
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Male 477
Surely if these kids had actualy been caught doing anything, the school would have put that in their statement in an attempt to defend themselves. But they didn`t.

So Victor, aren`t you just blindly going along with the story that the school is trying to defend themselves with?

D`oh...there i go, arguing with an idiot again.

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Female 4,225
^^ You`re right. The thing is lately, America... not exactly the friendlty neighbor. ially hristians

Espec

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Male 188
"And I bet the only "public sexual activity" was making out or a grope or something."

But, you don`t know, do you? Like everyone else in this thread, you are convinced by a single media clip that the principal is just come crazy anti-gay loony bin with no regard for job security, while totally disregarding the possibility that the media took items out of context, again. Not many of you like to think for yourselves, do you? Much easier to just blindly go along with groupthink than to put stress on your pot-ridden brains, I know.

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Female 4,225
MADDOG YOUR MY HERO!!!

Anyways...

What bullcrsp. What typical, conservative American Christian bullcrap.

The principal is definitily a Super Christian or a homophob.

It`s there choice! So unless you see them doing it in a hallway or bathroom...IT"S NONE OF YOUR BUISSNESS!

And Drewk is an ass.

But ya, the States are definirtly behind in many things.

If the world was a diverse school, America would be- ah- obese and mentally challenged.

*Starts singing American Idiot*

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Male 3,369
Oh and cookii. It was a joke. I might be against organised religion as a rule, I acctually find many of the individuals to be just fine.

Still..I think we should start telling people Fred Phelps will come get them if they misbehave! that old fart is scarier than any boogeyman!

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Male 153
Victor Watts, I believe my following succinct post directed at you have as much legit information and claims as all your posts combine:

/shoo

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Male 3,369
Damn. I`m supposed to hate cats! Blakcat71388 just changed my mind.

I guess I`m gonna get clawed somewhere now!

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Female 876
Victor_Watts -- I like reading your posts because they make everyone else`s bullpoo look a lot more legitimate.
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Male 188
If the students were breaking rules on campus, it is well within their right to call the parents. Whether that is morally right, is a different issue... some rules are meant to be bent a little. It`s just that I could easily see this being stretched out by the kids who were "outed" and their parents could be inclined to make a mountain out of an anthill in hopes of a settlement. It`s all speculation and the media always wants us to believe the most outrageous possibilities. Chances are, this is just another instance of that... with a small possibility that the principal is really that stupid. Then he/she becomes the 2nd dumbest ever. No principal will ever top the one that suspended a kid for smelling markers.
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Male 2,160
okay...time to step into the arguement, Victor, DrewK and LillianDulci, the point is what the principle did is wrong, morally, socially and even legally wrong, now that your informed, please remove yourselves.
Privacy laws do exist though theyre often ignored and violated thanks to the corporate control and surveillance society we´ve allowed for some foolish reason to come into power.
There are open minded christians out there, i have met many myself, i have even met gay christians.
Furthermore, i hereby post this sign:

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Female 876
What total bull. That principal stepped over a HUGE line. There is no reason at all that she should have talked to the kids` parents without first confronting the students involved. That is ridiculous.

And I bet the only "public sexual activity" was making out or a grope or something. That is certainly no reason to call a parent.

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Female 57
does anyone else think that the newspeople were horrible at their jobs??

and yeah that lady was out of line for outing ANY school relationships. It would have been ok if she had jsut said your son/daughter has been seen with indecent PDA`s at school. That would`ve been great cuz NO ONE wants to see that. But posting a list for the world to see with both members of the relationship is way overboard. If it`s not illegal it`s at least unethical adn they should question whether or not to keep her around. From what I can tell she didn`t even talk woth the students first.
Huge fail on her part.

And I hope the people who actually contributed to her list are announced as well. No one wants to be around someone they can`t trust.

"Snitches and Talkers get Stitches and Walkers"

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Female 1,299
wow frank, i salute you
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Female 1,299
Maddog, i mean Chistians i know who happen to be very nice people and friends with gays
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Male 2
If the statements in the abc report are not true, then the ACLU and Sun are likely to get very quickly counter-sued.

`the principal requested over the school intercom system that all the teachers and staff provide her with the names of students who were a couple, "hetero or homo."`

`according to the ACLU, the list was not as confidential as the school district claims, but rather posted in full view of those who entered the principal`s office`.

The potential witnesses for those incidents would be everyone in the school at the time, and anyone entering the principal`s office (resp.).

If you don`t trust the media, simply wait for a few days and see if ACLU is sued for libel.
As a sidepoint, stereotyping female teenagers does not help your argument.

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Male 3,369
Aww crap Victor_Watts. Your new post appeared right after posted my last one.

You fail allready. You, DrewK and LillianDulci should just get together and circle jerk each other.

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Female 1,004
Well, now we know he`s homophibic along with sexist. I`m going to guess racist just to complete his little circle. so we all know what side he`s on, so let`s not try arguing with him, he might not be able to read clearly under his pointy white hood.
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Female 1,572
That`s terrible
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Male 3,369
Victor_Watts. Good. I`m glad you dont take everything at face value, such as this news reports loose use of the word "sexual activity".

So call it Vic. Make a decision, pick a side and give us some evidence or beliefs to support your statements. Lets have an honest debate rather than a flamewar!

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Male 477
Ok...I`m done arguing with Victor, he`s clearly biased towards the OTHER side of the argument. One should never argue with an idiot...people might not be able to tell the difference.

I do find it strange though that there is no referrence that this Principal made calls to OTHER students on this list. Even calling a straight student`s parents to inform them of someone they were dating is not the job of a school official. That would be an invasion of privacy as well. Until she actualy catches someone who was doing something innapropriate, she had no right to call parents. And she did not say, and the school officials did not say, that this gay couple was actualy accused of doing anything. They were not caught in any act of PDA, otherwise there would have other actions taken besides calling parents (suspension, detention, etc.). She had no reason to call ANY of the parents of kids on that list until they were caught...which no one was.

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Male 188
He`s claiming that there is evidence, not me. I`m not the one making the claim. The burden is on him to provide it if he`s going to say it exists. This seems lost on you. That is understandable... I don`t expect much from a female aged 13-17.

OMG HE DIDNT JUST SAY THAT

yes, I did. Come get me.

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Female 1,004
Because you`re just running around going "where`s your evidence? that`s not evidence! give more evidence! That`s still not evidence!" like some mental patient in a nursing home.
Go to phucking google if you want your damned evidence. You think people here are going to dig it up for a turd like yourself?
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Male 188
"Victor_Watts: where`s your evidence, then?"

I have none - and neither do any of you. That is my point. The video on this site has no evidence. More than likely it is just another media spinjob, and someone wants to sue. Why is this beyond the thought process of you people?

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Male 188
"Victor_Watts is a phucking retard. he probably belives everytthing on the FOX news channel aswell!"

No, actually I have a tendency not to believe the news and that is the basis for my asking for whatever link he wanted to provide as evidence.

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Female 1,004
Victor_Watts: where`s your evidence, then?
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Male 188
Well, there`s only one parent interviewed according to this article. Supposing that her quotes, and the ACLU`s are legitly depicted here, the evidence is lacking. You`re going entirely by what the plaintiffs claim took place, with total disregard for the defendants side. You seem to have a good deal of bias towards their side for whatever reason, without considering that they could just be making a frivolous lawsuit.
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Male 477
This article also confirms the 365gay.com statements:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=477338...
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Male 3,369
Victor_Watts is a phucking retard. he probably belives everytthing on the FOX news channel aswell!
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Male 81
Who wants to see my new magic trick where I impersonate BOTH victor and Drewk.....Here it goes. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE FLAME FLAME FLAME TROLL TROLL TROLL RABBLE RABBLE JESUS RIGHTS ABORTION RABLE RABLE FLAME FLAME....*Bows*
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Female 1,004
Victor_Watts: and you`re counting a random short news clip on IAB as `proof`?
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Male 477
Anonymous site? It`s a gay news site owned by MTV. And so far they seem to be the only ones to have actualy interviewed the PARENTS.
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Male 188
Rebel, sorry but you`re gonna have to do better than some anonymous site that is clearly going to put their own spin on things, especially considering the name "365gay.com"
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Male 477
“embarrass the school” or engage in “inappropriate behavior.” A few days later, another student who hadn’t even applied to go on the trip was selected in his place.
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Male 477
http://365gay.com/Newscon08/04/042908sch...
"...the boys had never been observed by any school staff engaging in any sort of display of affection, the principal called Nicholas’s mother Nichole."
"According to Nichole, the principal said things like “Did you know your son is gay?” repeatedly and went on to say that she didn’t like gay people and wouldn’t tolerate homosexuality at her school."
"According to Nicholas, he also suffered another consequence of the principal’s discrimination. He had submitted extensive paperwork and several recommendations from teachers for a school trip to New Orleans to assist in rebuilding efforts.
Having a long history of community service, he was considered a shoo-in to be selected to go before the incident, but then a teacher told Nicholas some faculty were afraid he might “embarrass the school̶
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Male 188
LOL @ Maddog, Mr. "I`m unable to keep a conversation going so I`ll just argue vicariously through someone else"


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Male 109
Victor just wants some attention
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Male 109
just ignore that waste of human flesh maddog
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Male 3,369
It`s to goodlooking to be cherie blair David!
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Male 3,369
Hey Victor_Watts. Instead of showing us what an ignorant a$$ you are, why dont you go do some research yourself? You can use google cant you? Ask your mummy if your insure!
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Male 109
woops i meant cherie
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Male 109
Maddog thats a nice pic of Cherial Blair you got their.
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Male 109
that comment was towards that arful lame thinks-his-opinions-are-facts Victor character
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Male 188
^^^ provide links or I call BS.

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Male 3,369
REBELComx. Just ignore Victor_Watts. He cant even work what he`s said when he`s posting, never mind what anyone else posts!
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Male 477
Victor, I`ve already TOLD YOU. They weren`t actually accused of ANYTHING. The teacher just made a list of all the kids who were dating so she could personally keep an eye on them to prevent any kind of PDA. She ONLY called the gay kid`s parents, and as i`ve already said, she INTENTIONALLY said to the one mother that SHE (the principal) does not approve of it and would not tolerate homosexuality at her school. There`s more to this story than this one news program is telling us.
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Male 109
just go away. nobody want to here your lame BNP comments. now sod off.
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Male 3,369
What do you mean "there are open minded christians out there" cookii.

Fred Phelps will get you for saying that!

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Male 188
"You might as well kick out straight kids for kissing or whatever, it`s pretty much the same thing. :/"

How do we know the accused were just kissing? And if they were just kissing, and kissing is against school rules, how do we know that they were necessarily "outed" as opposed to just being identified in couples, with no malicious intent?

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Male 109
Clearly from his words, this "SmagBoy" character is a nothing who doesn`t count in this world. His airy, vacuous statements do nothing but show his nothingness.
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Female 1,299
thanks REBELComx for the full story, and that is just nasty.

DrewK-As far as i know, at least in the UK teachers arent allowed to notify parents of a childs private life unless its illegal, so kids do have privacy

SmagBoy1- there are plenty of tolerant, open- minded christians out there, most likely she was just a nasty piece of work, not unlike yourself.

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Male 109
Go away Victor Watts you ignorant child. Go back to watching jackass you lame tard.
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Female 1,002
You might as well kick out straight kids for kissing or whatever, it`s pretty much the same thing. :/
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Male 188
You`re right - I called him a bastard son, if in fact it went down like I think it did. Does that necessarily make me homophobic?

It is the typical bastard attitude in this country that is exemplified here - "my principal is a gay basher and is out to get me omg wtf do I do" with little basis to go by.

Maybe if the bastard son just went to class and didn`t spend his time engaging in activities against school rules, he wouldn`t be in this predicament.

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Male 3,369
Point proven Victor_Watts.

You reffered to the gay son as the "bastard son". Now get an adult to hold your hand whilst you play on the internet. It`s obviously to dangerous for you!

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Male 4,431
Jadesy, I bring religion into it because it`s clearly her motivation--her homophobic, discriminating religion made her feel justified in this blatant, unethical, chicken-poo abuse.

I mean, why else out these students? Why in the world would she inform anyone that X person is seeing Y person. If she has a problem with rule breaking, and needs to report that problem to parents like DrewK, then she can and should. But, does she need to list the partner? Does the parent of one child have a right to know the name of the other child? In other words, does DrewK have the right to know if his son is having sex with mine? No! That`s invasion of MY privacy, and my son`s. And that bitch knows it!

So, see, it works both ways. Parents and kids do have rights and those rights extend to parents of the partners, too.

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Female 338
D*mn. This is not funny. This is just tragic. That a woman can not only feel that it is okay for herself to spill such personal and emotional information with parents against the students will. If they were having sex in public, then notification that they were doing so should be allowed. But I sincerly doubt that. And then it gets worse. Not only does this woman think her actions are justified, but the entire acedemic community stands up to defend her behavior. To the point that students aren`t even allowed to calmly and peacefully give their opinion to a news crew not doing more than asking questions. This is what our world will come to if people like this (and DrewK) take over the world. Homosexulity is treated with such scorn by so many, and the fact these students did`t want their parents to know their own parents sexual preference prooves it. What if one of those parents threatened to disown their child? So many do. It`s a difficult thing to face without such reprehesible action.
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Male 188
How about you tell me what is wrong with it, big guy? If you`re going to call me out.. then follow through - don`t be a half assed pu$$y.
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Male 477
Sadly, Victor, this tape doesn`t tell the whole story. But I have been reading different sourced news reports about this incident since Tuesday morning. It`s all over the gay blogosophere and other local stations and newspapers covered the issue. There`s more info to this story than that news report is telling.
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Male 3,369
I`m the person calling you out Victor_Watts. Thats who the "phuck" I am. My reading comprehension is fine. I suggest you go ask a grown up to look at your post and tell you what is wrong with it! If your to dumb to see whats wrong with your attitude, I cant help you. Sorry!
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Male 3,369
Yeah I am REBEL. I never even thought of it till you mentioned it..but now that you do..
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Male 188
"It`s pretty obvious Victor_Watts is a homophobic bitch!"

LOL, who the phuck are you, and why are you calling me homophobic? No, I`m not homophobic, but it is clear that your reading comprehension is lacking somewhere.

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Male 477
Maddog are you familiar with H.P. Lovecraft? Everytime I see your avatar I think I`m looking at Pickman`s Model. LOL
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Male 188
Ummm, unless there is more inside info on this elsewhere, or you go to that school, I believe you are just spewing conjecture, sir. At no point in this tape does anyone clarify that there was no sexual activity, nor was there any evidence whatsoever to say that she specifically targeted gays.
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Male 3,369
It`s pretty obvious Victor_Watts is a homophobic bitch!
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Male 477
Victor, that`s not how the conversation went. The kids themselves were never reprimanded for any kind of sexual activity, and were never even accused of any. The principal made it her business to make it very clear to one of the mothers that her child was queer and that the Principal did not approve of that. There was no sexual actiity involved in this case. The Principal heard from a student that the two boys were DATING and then took it upon herself to harrass the student by revealing it to his parent. Dangerous and unethical.
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Male 4,546
freddy: In this day and age it is downright idiotic to speak without a PR agency in something like this.

You can bet the people bringing the case to court have their spindoctors, PR reps, lawyers, etc doing their speaking for them, and you can sure as hell bet that anything you say will be taken out of context by them unless it is professionally worded.

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Male 188
According to the news anchor, the principal listed students "both straight and gay"

Well McFly, what other students would be listed, besides bisexual ones?

The media uses choice wording to imply that the teacher specifically listed each student in one category or the other, without actually saying that. Likely what took place is that the principal made her rounds and this conversation took place with one parent -

Principal - Hi - your son was found having sex in our school
Mother - Oh? With who?
Principal - Let me see... ah yes, Bob Smith

Mother - So my son is GAAYYY?!!!!?11!!!1!?!
Principal - Yup, looks like it

Then when confronted about it the bastard son says to himself "OMFG now they know I`m gay, I should sue somebody"

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Male 313
I hate stupid people.
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Female 920
""She did not specify the sexual orientation of any student."
Oh, Jack and Bill.. hmm that sounds like a straight couple to me, any one else?"

I thought the same thing, she didn`t specify anyones sexual orientation..but if the list is in couples something tells me the parents would figure out that way. No? Also DrewK you`re a moron. I feel sorry for you`re kids if you are not even open about this video that you (we all) know little to nothing about, i can`t even imagine how you react when your kid tells you something.

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Female 78
absolutely ridiculous. Sorry.


I`m surprised how dumb people can be.

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Male 62
"She did not specify the sexual orientation of any student."

Oh, Jack and Bill.. hmm that sounds like a straight couple to me, any one else?

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Male 98
It`s always amusing to watch these threads. There`s almost always some person claiming "I`m betting it was this group of people. This group of people always is X and is horrible because of it, no exceptions. Thankfully the opposite group isn`t able to be held by stereotypes and we have more exceptions than a rule." Nope.. not hypocritical at all. Of course the other side fires back with the same exact rhetoric... anyone ever think that maybe the principle is just.. dumb? Doesn`t have to be religion or politics or anything. So many people cry foul and yell stereotype and would be offended if the same thing were done to them.
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Male 11,739
What IS IT with school administrators lately? This crap, the girl getting suspended for bringing a hammer. Good grief, if this keeps up I`ll hire a tutor for my kids. This is getting way past idiotic. I think they did cross a line here. The school knows it too, otherwise they wouldn`t have had security keeping the reporters away from the students. If they didn`t have anything to hide, they wouldn`t try to keep it out of the public reports and have lawyers speaking for them.
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Female 89
What the principal did was downright unethical. If she were to call and say "Your child is in a relationship and is engaging in explicit acts in public" that would have been fine, but outing anyone is wrong.

Coming out is a monumental moment in a gay person`s life, and it is there right to choose how and when they wish to do it. The principal has no right to do it for them.

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Female 1,004
I`d like to see the nursing home DrewK`s kids will stick him in once he gets older and even more incompetent.
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Female 5
I think this really depends on the truthfulness of the story, though. If the campus really was overrun with sexual activity (more than just kissing), and the principal did provide sufficient warning, then calling home about it may have been the only way to put a stop to it. However, if the story is indeed that she based this on rumours without approaching students at all, then this woman is just obnoxious and SHOULD be sued for all she`s got.

Either way, though, it was really unnecessary to specify the sexual orientation or identity of who the students were `misbehaving` with. >.<

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Male 2,160
and if you ask my point,point is,it seems the USA is a bit behind in ways of accepting their own human nature.
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Male 1,497
Damn, DrewK got rammed hard in this comments list. I support all of the bashers.

Go screw your yourself DrewK.

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Male 2,160
*note: i did not fornicate in school hallways, but in a empty stairwell at lunch once :-D
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Male 2,160
also,americans are strangely the only ones to have issues with human sexuality,they put victorian england to shame. (before some idiot goes and bashes this,i grew up in the united states,lived there till i was 12 and am a dual german/american citizen,so please keep your racism and foolish comments on europeans to yourself,also note,in my past relationships,as a teen,aged 13-present,i have drated like a rabbit and made out like mad in school hallways,no one once complained)
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Male 2,160
DrewK,your a fecking idiot,somehow willing to bet your the type who doesnt even allow their kids to have doors,its people like you who ruin a childs life,can say if i ever have kids and theyre gay,whatever,as long as theyre happy.And Maddog,with you all the way buddy
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Male 486
DREWK you stupid duch bag STFU if a student is frikkin making out then fine tell the frikkin parents but u have NO IDEA what a student is going through being gay, when a child wants to tell his parents about it he wants it done on his own terms in his own time, what if the parents are antigay duches like you seem to be? thats just FCKING WRONG TO OUT SOMEONE LIKE THAT i was outted by my sister AND I GOT KICKED OUT!!!!!!!! WTF DREWK STFU BECAUSE UR OBVIOUSLY NTHING MORE THAN AN INCOMPOTENT DUCHE BAG
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Male 188
I`m going to guess that once again, the media doesn`t know the whole story and that it`s quite possible they conveniently misconstrued things that were said into "OMGZ THEY OUTED GAAYYYYS"
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Female 523
DrewK.

I hope you rot in a tiny jail cell overflowing with vermin as your obviously screwed up children get mixed up in things like gangs and drugs because you were such non-nice individual, and that your wife cheats on you with another woman.

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Male 477
When I first saw this story on Tuesday, there was no referrence to any kind of previous sexual activity, Only public displays of affection. The principal made it a point to speak to teachers AND students to find out who was RUMORED to be dating each other. She kept this list (arrainged by paired students) in full view hanging next to her desk and any student or teacher who walked in could easily see it.
Another thing this video failed to mention was that not only did she out the student to his mother, according to the Mother, the principal said things like “Did you know your son is gay?” repeatedly and went on to say that she didn’t like gay people and wouldn’t tolerate homosexuality at her school. - That`s the real reason the LGBT rights groups are up in arms - Blatant discrimination.
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Female 464
How horrible, they have the right to privacy as long as they don`t engage in sexual behavior! D:
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Male 1,584
its not the schools job to tell people their kids are gay. It`s the kids job, when they`re ready. the school should mind their own ducking business.
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Female 154
DragonWinter

They are? O_o I never knew that.

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Female 1,492
i just wanna know why there is a high school on a college campus?
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Male 109
everybody need privacy. Without that people would find out about my dirty little secret....
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Female 118
Actually, when it comes to sex, minors are considered emancipated from their parents.
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Male 109
You Homophobes need to try homosexuality. It feels so gooood
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Male 16
Ok, I don`t thin that a principal has ANY right to tell parents about any relationship. Be it gay or striaght. If the kids want to tell their parents about their relationship, it`s THEIR choice, not a school`s. The principal should be fired and never be able to be a principal again.
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Female 44
So apparently no one is allowed to have privacy anymore?

This is retarded.

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Male 5,970
im not gonna make a long expination so...this is reatarted
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Female 154
Other than the problem "wtf you were having sex on campus you little heathen!?" I mean. >.> Bringing `AND WITH ANOTHER BOY!?` into the equation makes a biiig difference I think. Depends on the parent. Apologies for five thousand different posts.
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Female 1,984
But I do wonder - was the sexual activity just KISSING? If only that, and not sex, then I take back all I said about siding with the Principal.
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Male 103
DrewK, being gay is not a problem. Maybe it is a problem to you because you are a narrow minded idiot. I wonder what you would do if one of your kids came to you when they were a young adult and told you they were gay...you would probably beat them and kick them out...like I said I pity your kids.
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Male 3,369
I think you are the problem DrewK. In a open, loving and honest family, you would know who your kids where dating anyway. Prove me wrong!
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Male 495
^^^ I absolutely do.
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Female 154
DrewK. I am someones kid. I have a right to privacy. There are so many laws making sure I have a right to god damn privacy. I feel extremely bad for your kids. If I was outed to my mom (well if I was gay and outed to my mom) without being ready...I`d be scared. Scared to the point that it would effect my social life, private life, and even my school work. Especially my school work. "what will my mom think?" "what will my dad think?" "what will the rest of my family think?". Obviously if a child is keeping their sexual orientation from their parents, it`s for a reason. They do not feel comfortable enough with their parents to share why they love someone of the same sex, and it`s probably because they think their parents will freak out. Sadly, a lot of the time it`s true.
If the kid wants their parents to know, their parents will know. Yes. I understand if there was sexual activity at the school that the parents should be notified but not in a way that co
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Female 1,984
Reporter: "Members of the gay community..."

So now homosexuality is a group? Stupid woman. She probably looks at it as a `lifestyle`.

I agree with the Principal, as long as she didn`t list the couple names TOGETHER as many gay children don`t want parents to know or get suspicious (because many are religious conservatives who are close minded fools).

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Male 103
I feel sorry for your kids DrewK, I bet you have an awesome relationship with them.
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Male 495
It is the responsibility for the parents to take care of the problem. They first need to know about the problem.
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Male 3,369
DrewK:I am a FREAKING parent ffs. Read what I`m saying. Yes..parents do have a right but this crosses the line. Do we know EXACTLY what the kids where doing? No. Sexual activity can be defined as kissing. Is kissing someone such a big deal. NO.
If they where having sex (which I doubt) then thats diffrent. Also your definition of minor is going to be diffrent from mine. If these kids (as per our law in the UK) are over 16, which I belive them to be, then they dont have to tell anyone anything. Remember, sex in a public place is classed as an illegal offense, thus the police would have been involved. They where not, therefore as I said, I do not belive it was anything other than kissing.

It`s up to the kids to tell their parents who they date, not the school. If it`s something else, fine..it`s a diffrent matter. this is CLEARLY not the case here.


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Male 103
DrewK what century are you living in? Minors have rights also. Adults have more rights than minors but the law recognizes that minors also have rights. Like I said typical conservative republican.
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Female 71
"My kids certainly DO NOT have a right to privacy." <- Then I`m FRIGGIN happy I wasn`t ur kid when I was a minor.. What a pooty attitude to have..!
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Female 139
DrewK
what they were doing is probaably important information
but is the fact that theyre gay important information to u ?
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Female 48
DrewK, for claiming to be a parent, you`re acting very much like a child. You`ve shown only one point of view and a stubborn refusal to admit there might be another side to the issue. The fact is, that principal -did- invade those students privacy - it was way beyond her boundaries as a professional educator to release very personal information without the students permission. If the campus was overrun with inappropriate sexual activity, it`s her job to stop it - not to call the parents, tattle on her students, and wait for the parents to take care of the problem.
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Male 244
"DrewK. Kids have a right to privacy to. Are you a control freak or something?"
Maddog
"My kids certainly DO NOT have a right to privacy."
DrewK

Yeah, Maddog, I`m pretty sure that`s about right.

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Female 139
i dont think she had a right to do that.
a persons sexuality is their own business, and the school shouldnt be calling their parents and telling them. its not their place. At my school people are making out in the halls, and no one cares, cause its not a big deal.
i agree witht eh warning that someone mentioned.
i doubt that it was that bad that they had to resort to calling the kids parents.
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Male 244
"^^^^ because THEY ARE MINORS and the parents have a right to know. Geez why is that so hard for you to understand people?"
"Why do all you kids keep saying "invasion of privacy" and crap like thta? THEY ARE FREAKIN minors their parents HAVE THE RIGHTS not them."

So children have no rights? Children have no rights to have anything to themselves?

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Male 495
My kids certainly DO NOT have a right to privacy.
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Male 495
Maddog-THE FREAKING PARENTS have a right to know what their kids are up to. I f I found out a school withheld IMPORTANT info about my kids I would slap them with a huge lawsuit.
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Male 3,369
DrewK. Kids have a right to privacy to. Are you a control freak or something?
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Male 3,369
DrewK: I speak as a parent and it was WRONG so dont take the high and mighty route! Outing someone like this is wrong. She could have just said "involved in inappropriate activity with another student" in the letter to parents...but it`s obvious the Principle didnt even talk to the kids first...and again, you have no idea what she defined as "sexual activity".
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LillianDulci:You are a Christian. Do you wear a chastity ring? See..I can make random assumptions to. It probably was just kissing...and I stand by my first statement. She should have talked to the students first. If she`s so outraged by normal biological behaviour (something that does infact seem to upset many Americans, specifically christian conservative americans)then she`s repressed. And your being illogical by instantly thinking the worse and assuming they where having sex. Sex - Sexual Activity. See the diffrence?
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Male 495
Why do all you kids keep saying "invasion of privacy" and crap like thta? THEY ARE FREAKIN minors their parents HAVE THE RIGHTS not them.
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Male 103
I would not love my child any less if they were gay. I would make sure that they are ready to walk down that path because gay people are still persecuted and treated like second class citizens to this day. No I am not gay, I am married with 7 children. I believe that who a person loves is their business, not mine or the governments.
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Male 103
I am going to go out on a limb and guess that DrewK is a conservative republican...you probably also agree with Bush`s wiretapping law. I would guess that the principal is also a republican. Republicans are always trying to control peoples lives and sexuality as well as pry into people`s private lives. The parents do have rights but the kids have rights also. They have the right to come out to their parents at a time and place that is appropriate to them. Outing a gay teen before they are ready can have long term effects, both physical and psychological. She not only outed them to their parents but to the entire school, which means these kids will be teased, tormented and possibly physical harmed. If this principal called and outed one of my kids I would tell her "thank you for calling me but my child`s sexuality is none of your business". I would talk to my child and apologize to them about be outed in that fashion and make sure that they are they are protected.
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Male 1,228
Hey, wanna get it on in the campus?
"Sure!!"
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Female 2,674
Maddogg, how can you make that statement ("What a repressed country!") by an assumption of your own ("By "sexual activity" I`m guessing they mean kissing.")? You aren`t being logical, you are just making things up!
If they say sexual activity, they probably mean it. I wouldn`t put it passed people to randomly decide to have oral sex in public at school, to be honest.
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Female 154
Smagboy....why did you have to pull religion into this? That was really kind of random...I mean I can see where you`re coming from (I guess....) but...religion wasn`t even mentioned in the video. O.o;

Ah yes...the video...well...It might not have been discrimination because she called straight couples parents too...Or thats what the video said at least. Maybe she`s just stupid 8D. But straight or gay it is an invasion of privacy and she should have handled it a lot better. Someone mentioned before about talking to the students first and warning them, and I agree. Honestly though, if the straight student is going out with someone, their parents probably know. If they gay student is going out with someone, have common sense to leave it alone. Even having a slight chance of outing a student to their parents should make you say "Hm. I should back the hell up off this." because you could cause a whole lot of turmoil at home. And feel like a mean jackass. Wee the end.

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Male 495
^^^^ because THEY ARE MINORS and the parents have a right to know. Geez why is that so hard for you to understand people?
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Female 83
This is high school? And how long do relationship last in high school? People are always breaking up with each other and then going out with other people. Unless the principal was planning on remaking the list each week I think it was a pretty pointless plan. And why did the principal have to tell the parents who they were in a relationship with? Couldn`t she just have said so and so`s in a relationship if she really thought it was necessary to tell the parents?
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Male 495
That`s awesome. The parents have a right to know what their sexual devient kids are up to. All you kids chiming in....parents always have the rights.
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Male 172
hell at my old high school there were kids making out in every corner.

who cares?

as long as they keep jack in his box then every thing`s all good.

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Male 2,160
i´m with The Maddog all the way, tis bullcrap and wrongness of the highest order
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Male 3,369
Thats so fking wrong. By "sexual activity" I`m guessing they mean kissing. What a repressed country!

It was still a huge invasion of privacy. She didnt have to "out" anyone. She should have talked to the students first, then said if it continues she will contact their parents. Wrong wrong worng on so many levels!

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Male 4,431
Hmmmmm, I wonder if the principal`s religion had anything to do with this?

This is blatant discrimination and the ACLU will win this case and the district will have to pay settlements to those outed students. Hopefully, the principal will lose her job, too. Maybe her church can nuture her while she`s unemployed, the damn bitch.

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Female 1,004
THEIR faces will probably be like yours if your parents said "Hey honey, we busted up and melted down your bike to make this beautiful wind chime! Isn`t it gorgeous?"
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Male 2,113
HA HA HA! thats funny i would love to see there faces when they get home
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Female 1,004
Yeah, I predict alot of bitter and angry people in the future from that area....
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Male 453
thats pretty harsh tbh :(
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Male 211
she called my mother and outed me to my mother. LOL
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Male 70
BUSTED!!!!!
that`s really harsh though....
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Male 1,620
Link: Principal Outs Gay Students [Rate Link] - ``I mean, she called my mother and outed me to my mother!``
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