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  1. Profile photo of eugenius
    eugenius Male 30-39
    1620 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    Link: Pick a Side - If you don`t like other people`s opinions, here are some facts.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:38 pm
    Sets up straw men

    Sets it on fire

    Whoop-de-fricking-do

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    fatcow Male 13-17
    26 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:39 pm
    I watched for about 37 seconds. Then I got bored. The point of IAB is to cure boredom, not add to it. Fail.
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    AsianPower Male 13-17
    11 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:39 pm
    I think he sounds a bit like Austin Power`s dad.
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    moonie_kat Female 18-29
    358 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    Wow. Actually a pretty interesting speech with some good points. Also, it`s refreshing to hear something about Americans that isn`t all negative for once.
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    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
    721 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:46 pm
    Wow. I never thought I could pay such little attention to something.
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    carolinads13 Female 13-17
    151 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:46 pm
    This is what I love: good debate with good facts, not a bunch of namecalling and bullsht like we *often* seem to have around the forums...

    I still can`t fully agree with him, even though I like the British!

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    sumomonkey21 Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 5:47 pm
    i actually just wrote a report for school on this exact topic.

    poo, why couldn`t this come up earlier and save me a lot of research?

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    sjanae76 Female 30-39
    66 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 5:48 pm
    Did he say `free finker`? He was pretty sexy anyway. Good points he made too.
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    d3athcr33ps Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 5:50 pm
    Ok here is the thing.....i dont need to pick a side! i consider myself independant. i support the troops, i do not support the war, i hate bush let gays to what they want, and females people than men in some ways. Why should we define ourselves as liberal or conservative? By labeling ourselves we our giving up our freedom. Yes we did take out a major dictator, but at what cost? There are more people dieing all around the world in wars should we risk the social and economic backlash this war has caused?
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    kaizen_man68 Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2008 at 5:52 pm
    An Australian boob, that Iraqi dictator was CIA puppet, just google the image Rumsfeld and Saddam. The Muslims this twat speaks of are a small, very vocal and well funded splinter group of Muslims on the whole, sorta like those preachy evangelicals we`ve all grown to love in the last 8 years. Someone post a video response to this sycophantic rant. His talking points are straight out of the fox play book. Anything on this planet is rarely an either/or choice, many shades of gray. What a douche-bag.
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    kooshi_govno Male 70 & Over
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:01 pm
    My Hero.
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    TieDyePlatap Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm
    So at first I listened to what he said. I thought mabye he isn`t just another ignorant, arogant, hateful kinda guy. He made some points hell i don`t know history so I don`t know if he`s right or wrong I also zoned out for a bit. He then asked about the gay rights advocates, femminists and liberal free thinkers. I now think he is ignorant, arogant and hateful. He started off ok then he just let us know he hates women, gays, and liberals. Hmmm....i`m not gonna listen to someone who hates on everyone else. He has an opinion like everyone else but his opinion is diminished once he starts to hate on every one.
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    hmastermind Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:05 pm
    Wait a second. Saying that Bush is better than Saddam is no reason to say that Bush is better than all alternatives. It`s completely false to claim that Bush=democracy and everybody else=muslims blowing up the world. Actually, Bush failed to effectively fight radical muslims, and that`s why America is being criticized.

    I was also infuriated at his connection between liberals and terrorists. Liberals are not anti-American. They are dissenting with our leadership, which (last I checked) was *good* for American democracy.

    Yeah, the guy`s a retarded non-nice individual, his "evidence" means nothing, and he says absolutely nothing interesting. THIS SUCKS!

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm
    The guys a dick. He didnt tell you who armed and trained the muslims did he! He didnt tell you who helped put Saddam in power either. He didnt tell you ANYTHING but his point of view and made sure he ONLY told you what he wanted to hear.
    I suggest people DO read books and learn facts...I agree with on that much..the rest was just spin.

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:09 pm
    As soon as someone disagrees with extremist liberals, it becomes a name calling contest. I wish I could be perfect.
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    jr_terror Female 18-29
    89 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    Amen! My hero! So refreshing to see a Conservative post for once.

    "He started off ok then he just let us know he hates women, gays, and liberals."

    Don`t be so quick to accuse someone of hate. Maybe you weren`t aware, but it IS possible to disagree with someone without hating them. For example, I disagree with a lot of what feminism stands for, so does that mean I hate women? Um, obviously not. I am one.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm
    This chap was spot on!

    Good for him!

    And, he didn`t say he hated feminists, gays and liberals. He was just wondering why these groups aren`t speaking out (as they often do against Christian organizations) against areas of the world where feminists, gays and liberals are brutalized under certain Islamic regimes.

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    ImNoGod Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:17 pm
    At last! A post not from a far left perspective! Nice!
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    monkeyinmind Female 18-29
    90 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 6:17 pm
    Ugly facial expressions. Couldnt watch.
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    aussie101 Female 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:23 pm
    ok kaizen_man68 grow a brain mate he is freaking british not australia duuurr )-|
  22. Profile photo of jr_terror
    jr_terror Female 18-29
    89 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 6:29 pm
    ^^

    Well, yeah, obviously he`s not very smart if he thinks one picture of Donald and Saddam shaking hands means Saddam was the "puppet of the CIA" lol.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:30 pm
    lol with aussie101
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    mrkleen Male 40-49
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:36 pm
    Thank you, sir!
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    Ruswut Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:39 pm
    Wow love how people are commenting with, I`m not going to listen to him because... That`s like saying I`m going to stick my fingers in my ears and scream and cry about how Bush is a Dick. Yes he is a Dick but that guy had some good points!
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    Lazyteen782 Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:40 pm
    I belive he`s trying to keep the fear and hatred of Islamic people and cultures in the world`s heart. To me, he trying to say that Muslims are trying kill the world. Belive me,feminists, gays and liberals want to change the world, but we don`t give them enough attention and respect.I don`t agree that "liberals" hate us and want us dead, I think they don`t like us because of our acheivments, hopes, and dreams and they would like to be where we are now. I think he sounds more like our (u.s.a) media: spreding fear to the public, making us hate and want to kill each other. Man, I picked a side: A side of people who point out other people`s mistakes about there idea on the Middle East-- the world and tries to tell them to chill and look at the alternative. I agree, sometimes Islamic countries do stupid and mean things to the world, but there`s no point putting all the world`s problems on them. I say man,check your side.
  27. Profile photo of jr_terror
    jr_terror Female 18-29
    89 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 6:42 pm
    He never said liberals want us dead!

    Like he said in the video. Know your subject before you argue. Otherwise, your arguments will fall on deaf ears.

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    Lazyteen782 Male 13-17
    5 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 6:44 pm
    He`s trying to keep the fear and hatred of Islam in the world`s heart. To me, he trying to say that Muslims are trying kill the world. There are some good Muslims out there,but the U.S media chooses to show the bad side of them. Belive me,feminists, gays and liberals want to change the world, but we don`t give them enough attention and respect.I don`t agree that "liberals" hate us and want us dead, I think they don`t like us because of our acheivments, hopes, and dreams and they would like to be where we are now. I think he sounds more like our (u.s.a) media: spreding fear to the public, making us hate and want to kill each other. Man, I picked a side: A side of people who point out other people`s mistakes about there idea on the Middle East-- the world and tries to tell them to chill and look at the alternative. I agree, sometimes Islamic countries do stupid and mean things to the world, but there`s no point putting all the world`s problems on them. I say man,check your si
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    quaintness Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:48 pm
    For the people who had something nice to say about this. Congrats to you for not day dreaming throughout the whole clip just to spew radioactive retarded babble..
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    caduceo13 Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 6:53 pm
    boring as bush.
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    quaintness Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:00 pm
    @caduceo

    I`m sorry could you clarify what you said, "boring as bush". You seem to think he`s there to bust a rhyme or do stand up? Logic and reason, I think, go in one ear and out the other for a lot of people.

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    Slyguy056 Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:03 pm
    I used to hate Bush and the Republicans prior to watching this video but I really do understand now. It makes sense. I don`t hate the muslims, I hate the terrorists!
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    jr_terror Female 18-29
    89 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    Thank you slyguy, your open-mindedness is appreciated :)
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    Zeckal Male 18-29
    118 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:14 pm
    I agree for the most part. I too have seen the sick F***s out there handing out fascist flyer`s of murder and rape. There is one point of which I do have to disagree. George bush might be better then Saddam, but thats like comparing a broken toothpick to a peace of dog crap. I still think we could have had better.
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    Zeckal Male 18-29
    118 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    And one more thing, MUSLIMS ARE NICE, The Kuran says to be nice to Jews and Christians. The problem Muslims are like the cults of other religions, like satanism or the Mormons. Everywhere there are going to be weirdos that want to screw with the general image and start a stereo type.
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    Donkey546 Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:21 pm
    Well D3athcr33ps, the thing is you`re talking about a completely different topic than he was. And for all it`s worth, if you don`t want to pick a side then good luck with the rest of your life because I don`t think it will be very easy for you.
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    CAP9993 Male 18-29
    167 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:21 pm
    here here.
    that was right on target.
    that guy deserves a pat on the back.
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    jr_terror Female 18-29
    89 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:23 pm
    I have a suggestion for anyone who wants to learn more about this topic from an unbiased source: read The Looming Tower, by Lawrence Wright. It is an incredibly in-depth and well-researched book about the history of Muslim extremism, and the most unbiased book you`ll ever read.
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    Maxim86 Male 18-29
    139 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:24 pm
    The problem with his logic is that he claims there are only two sides. The world does not work in binaries or black and white conclusions. It is not just Democracy versus Muslims. I love Democracy as its the best form of government the world has, but Muslims aren`t our enemy, just the crazy ones.
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    Boredered Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:31 pm
    WHY THE drat ARE U POSTING THIS!?
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    BigJohn86 Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:38 pm
    Here is the part I don`t think anyone gets, everybody is occasionally wrong. Some more than others! Liberals are hippies, bleeding hearts, sudo-intellectuals, and pussies that don`t recognize that there are bat poo crazy homocidal maniacs in the world that kill for the sake of killing and conservatives are gun crazy, bible thumping, nascar watching, bigots that would rather blow something up than solve it diplomatically. All in all, both sides are really messed up because they ignore the reality of human behavior. Fact, people hateful & violent. Fact, people are kind & loving. Fact, war & suffering are the back bone of man kind. Fact, without compassion & empathy, we would all kill eachother for our own gains. What does this all mean? It means that humans are the most damn confusing creatures within a light year of this floating rock we call Earth! We love eachother, we hate eachother. It`s wierd, but it`s life so as long as there is a human race there will be arguments
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    iggy33 Male 30-39
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    WELL SAID.

    d3athcr33ps. "There are more people dieing all around the world in wars"
    In all the armed conflicts, how many were STARTED by muslims.

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    jenren2007 Female 18-29
    20 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 7:42 pm
    Wow, and I thought that everyone in the rest of the world hates the U.S. with a burning passion.


    No, really, I did. Thank you, public education.

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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:52 pm
    Thanks, guy. I appreciate your support of America.

    I don`t hate Muslims at all, have had Muslim friends... but I do hate extreme views of any kind!

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    Delta255 Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 7:52 pm
    "The guys a dick. He didnt tell you who armed and trained the muslims did he! He didnt tell you who helped put Saddam in power either. He didnt tell you ANYTHING but his point of view and made sure he ONLY told you what he wanted to hear.
    I suggest people DO read books and learn facts...I agree with on that much..the rest was just spin."

    God forbid someone has a differing opinion. If you are surprised he only supported his view then you are a drating idiot. He never said that it was unbiased.

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    moquanman Male 18-29
    136 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 8:11 pm
    Do I think he had some good points, yes. Do I agree with everything he said, no. But it sure as hell gave me something to think about it, so kudos to him there.

    It was Aristotle who said "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Just because he thinks he`s right and he has all these facts backing him up, though, doesn`t mean he can dismiss and not consider the points of views of others. It is a fool who does not seek to understand the thoughts of his enemy, if only to better defend himself against them.

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    CBFLATLINE Male 40-49
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    May 4, 2008 at 8:24 pm
    WOW Delta255,

    Such an educated mind. Maybe you need to read a history book on the 70`s and 80`s.

    LISTEN AND LEARN!!!

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    ClearSky87 Male 18-29
    227 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm
    this is just a conservative opinion wrapped up in a pretty package...
    i agree that the middle east has a lot of crazy ppl...but i will NEVER accept Bush as a good alternative.
    and you should hate Bush if you support the troops, since he screwed up the war from the start by putting in his friends and using stupid logic (like we`d only be there a couple of days...)

    this guy didn`t differentiate between Muslims and terrorists...Its kind of like saying the westboro catholic church represents all those who believe in Jesus.

    so pick a side...the west with Bush, or with the middle east in a religious state of fear

    well i vote for a third option

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    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 8:46 pm
    its not motherfu(ing black and white
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm
    finnaly someone says it
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    richoricho Male 40-49
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    May 4, 2008 at 8:53 pm
    wow- bored again and very quickly
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    bochamockado Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 8:58 pm
    I liked it, albeit not quite my beliefs.
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    danishj Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 9:26 pm
    just because he talks like he knows what hes talking about doesnt mean he does...
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    cambriaseyes Female 18-29
    338 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 9:34 pm
    I agree with most of what he said, but I really don`t think George W. Bush gave two sh_ts about the Iraqi people being oppressed when he decided to invade. I mean, why not Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Somalia, North Korea? I don`t think we`re fighting against Islam, but I don`t think we`re fighting for "freedom" either. It`s a little interesting that the US govt only decides to care about the freedoms of oppressed people when it suits their interests.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 9:34 pm
    its not that black and white. but yeah, i dont like muslims.....christians,jews,scientologists and all varitations of that poo.
    but what can i do? jack poo.
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    shilo986 Female 18-29
    30 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 9:36 pm
    amen brother. finally a man after my own heart =)
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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 9:37 pm
    I really, really couldn`t agree more with what he said, and it`s very refreshing to hear an argument made out of passion/intellect and not out of blind hatred born out of being fed propaganda by a media that generates income by publishing stories about how supposedly terrible the West is, but this video will never convince any of the idiots who are thoroughly convinced they`re right. Hopefully it will inspire and spark a bit of interest and self-doubt in some of the smarter smacktards out there, but there is absolutely no hope for people like kaizen_man68.

    One thing that is foolish about his argument though, is that there aren`t really any sides. Some children, and sometimes whole communities, are raised alongside people who express hatred towards other humans in place of an intellectual argument against foreign affairs, and those children/communities grow up to express illogical, blind dislike in place of thought. You`d think the word would have learned, especially after WWII.

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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 9:38 pm
    world*.

    I had to sum things up in the last paragraph, my point being that, as others have pointed out, these things don`t work out with sides. Foreign policy and public relations doesn`t exactly play out like a game of Risk nowadays.

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    anglefan Male 18-29
    80 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 9:45 pm
    Oh boy..he brings up valid points and then Kaizen_Man The Maddog and TyeDyeFlatop Shoot his theory down. Shows how closeminded they really are. If anything these guys seem like theyd probably praise bush.
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    touche Male 13-17
    58 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 9:48 pm
    I`m on the side that watches, or the "sidelines" ahehahe, i made a funny. Nice vid, like ur opinion.
  61. Profile photo of sgdp
    sgdp Female 18-29
    553 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    He`s wrong. The "Muslim terrorists" don`t hate us for our freedoms.

    They hate us for blowback.

    The US has been in the middle east bombing for YEARS.

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    thats_nifty Female 13-17
    416 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 10:16 pm
    I liked it but I don`t know why he had to bring Femminists and gay rights into this. War and the right to get married are two very different things. And muslims=/= terrorists.

    Though, I did think and I do agree with some (most definately not all) of what he said.

    But war is not black and white.

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    pariahnola Male 18-29
    649 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 10:28 pm
    every body has it wrong and nobody has it right. there are only what seem to be good ideas and bad ideas. but honestly there is no truth just a very warped perseption of a well thought out lie that has been burried in more lies and the truth well the truth no longer exists
  64. Profile photo of MaruDashi
    MaruDashi Female 18-29
    237 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 10:40 pm
    I noticed how whenever someone says anything, no matter how valid and truthful their point may be, they find some sort of weakness, some small discrepancy that they never intended, nor do they believe in, and they exploit it. They make a good, smart, just person look like a stupid "boob" as one of you others referred to him as. Instead of being a jerk and talking about all the wrongs, do something reasonable and intelligent for once and keep the peace b awarding them for putting together such a well thought out speech. Some of you believe that saying: "Haha, watch me, I`m putting this guy down for something that even I myself would not put myself, or anyone I believe in, down for." and you believe you`re cool. When they make a mistake it`s as if they`ve broken a law, yet when you or those you believe in make a similar folly, it`s okay, hey it happens right? It does. it`s called being human. Most who post comments tarnishing the poster are Hypocrites. I say he prove
  65. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 10:40 pm
    I think I would`ve been more of a skeptic had he spoke with an American accent, not a British one.

    Am I a bad person for this?

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    mokibro Male 40-49
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    May 4, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    Ok, I agree with some of what he said. We did help Muslims in Bosnia and Somalia(well, at least we tried to in Somalia), and even Kuwait(though we were more interested in helping British Petroleum than the Kuwaitis). However, he does need to do a bit more research, as he got a couple of things completely wrong. First, in Darfur, Muslims of Arab descent are the ones doing most of the raping, burning, and killing. And the people they are doing it to are not Muslims. They are people of black African descent, who are mostly Christians and/or Animists. Second, while Iraq was a secular state under Saddam, he didn`t hate Muslims. He opposed only some Muslims, mainly religious fanatic Muslims who opposed him because of Iraq`s secularism. In fact, Saddam himself was a Muslim.

    Ergo, he does need to do more research.

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    MANAX99 Male 70 & Over
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    May 4, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    I really like this guy. My forth favorite, and I`ve been here a long time.
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    MANAX99 Male 70 & Over
    132 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    Oh and fatcow... I know who you are... and I know what you did.
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
    221 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 11:00 pm
    He had some good points, and definitely food for thought. But as always, the issues here are being dangerously oversimplified.

    I think the two-party system we have in America is depressing. Too many people are willing to subscribe to pre-made ideologies and blindly align their political action (voting and such) to it. And for those of you who really truly do know what you believe and why you believe in it, kudos to you.

    Blinding extremism is bad.

    I was going to continue on some (hopefully) intelligent-sounding rant, but I am le tired, so let`s just all hug and be friends, k? K.

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    xXsi666Xx Female 13-17
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    May 4, 2008 at 11:05 pm
    am not american nor english,but am with you good sir
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    msimmons Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    One thing I`ve always agreed with is support our troops.
    I`ve never agreed with the reasons for which we`re told what they`re doing.
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    swtdreams285 Female 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 11:43 pm
    Nothing like a good debate! I hope to see a response video soon.
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    DrkAng3LxNat Female 18-29
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    May 4, 2008 at 11:52 pm
    nice looks, nice voice (whoot accent), but damn all i could pay attention to was the teeth really o.O

    british, right?

    great video anyway x]

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    May 4, 2008 at 11:56 pm
    The argument can really be simplified.

    Is Bush telling the truth? No.
    The terrorists have goals. They`re not random freedom haters. They want troops out of Saudi, troops out of Iraq, troops out of Afghanistan, right of return for Palestinian refugees.
    There were no WMDs.
    Saddam was not a threat.
    At his rate, it would have taken Saddam 120 years to kill as many Iraqis as have died.

    Is Bush succeeding in his stated goals? No.
    There is more terrorism than before. Not less.
    There is more anti-Americanism than before. Not less.
    People are less safe in Iraq. Not more.
    Americans are less free. Not more.
    Americans are less safe. Not more.
    There are more WMDs in the world, and a greater nuclear threat. Not less.

    Overall, complete fail.
    Screw the appeal to emotion.
    Screw the strawman.
    Screw any other logical fallacies I`ve missed.

    Why are people still falling for arguments like that?

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    jmk4422 Male 18-29
    134 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:04 am
    Anyone who agrees with this video is as blind as the person who made it. And it`s sad.

    It`s sad because I can see many people watching this and clinging onto it as a validation for their pro-USA, pro-hypocrisy beliefs. It hurts my soul to watch a video like this when I know how blatant this propoganda is.

    Sigh. A lot of people are going to watch this and decide that they have actually studied US involvement in foreign affairs as a result. Fancylad already has, that`s clear. There will be many others.

    It`s just sad. I wish people would put down their PS3 controllers and pick up a book or two now and then. But why read anything when you can "trust" stuff on YouTube that people like FancyLad has said is legit?

    It`s a travesty.

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    nitefang Male 13-17
    24 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:24 am
    Ok yea, obviously a democratic state is better that a most dictatorships and there is nothing wrong with a direct democracy. To bad that we don`t live in a direct democracy. A direct democracy is one in which the popular vote actually decides who is the president or which bill gets passed.
    Also a great quote: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the rest." -Winston Churchill.
    Also, you can`t say that my only choices are violent Muslims or Bush. There are several other countries in the world by the way.
    For the most part however, I agree with you. And
    you do probably know a lot more than me about history and politics but I know enough to understand there is never just a choice between terrible and bad. And America isn`t perfect, sure its better than some village in Africa but there are many better leaders out there and hopefully a better one will be taking office soon.
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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
    4246 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:42 am
    I still find it strange that he brought feminism, gay-rights and other liberalisms into the fray. It really does seem as though he`s accusing them of being on the side of lunacy instead of logic.
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    GeorgieRose Female 18-29
    49 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:51 am
    I always find it interesting to hear responses to items like this. A lot of you seem to have misinterpreted a lot of it. His argument is really fairly well formed for such a short explanation. He doesnt say, for example that democracy is flawless. He says its the best option we currently have, which is probably true in context of global politics today. He also doesnt say that Muslims in Darfur are on the recieving end of violence: he says they should be supporting their "co-religionists" - ie: people of other religious persuasions. Nor does his argument totally condone America, he suggests Bush is perhaps the better of two evils. He brings up feminism gay rights etc to ask what their position is on this, not directly suggesting they`re on the side of lunacy. He is flawed in terms of not highlighting the fact that the lunatics are the minority.

    Overall you have to listen to what he says carefully. It is a pretty balanced argument but by no means complete: you cant say much

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    GeorgieRose Female 18-29
    49 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:54 am
    oops cut off.

    ... you cant say much in two minutes. You`d probably need weeks to explore every avenue.

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    TieDyePlatap Male 18-29
    75 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 3:31 am
    Ok so we hate terrorists or in this case muslim terrorists but what about radical christians who blow up abortion clinics or the westborrow babtist church aren`t they terrorists as well?
    (Terrorist- a person who terrorizes or frightens others.)
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    zanubii Female 13-17
    19 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 4:35 am
    pooty facts!! chatin bulpoo bwt muslims
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    bankvole Male 30-39
    959 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 4:57 am
    this man is a cnut.

    Oh, and by and large indians aren`t muslims.

    That is all I could be bothered to say to this hatefilled drivel.

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    Careen Female 18-29
    5 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 5:04 am
    That guy is full of crap! Someone already pointed it out but it`s obvious that he`s being very selective with what he says and it`s (quite clearly) very biased anyway. He isn`t going to convince me.

    *yawn*

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    flatheman Male 18-29
    4 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:08 am
    Wow, that was boring... Anyway, no country should support another country for their beliefs. Thats just stupid. Muslims in one country shouldn`t depend on another country to survive. If people are dying, why doesn`t America help? In fact why doesn`t any country help? Because the UN classes it as, not a genocide. The USA does but there tied down to the middle east. Which is questionable, considering they thought of sending all the Jews to one country and they started alot of problems in the Middle East after WW2. So, why aren`t they helping them? If they do, they`ll want a country of their own to stop future genocides because their in the minority. With the Usa intervening on that issue, they will have to provide for these people. They`ll have to invade Sudan and then fix this issue, which hasn`t worked in any country, it just leads to more divisions. However they can say there`s genocide and place sanctions on Sudan, but that`s the extent they can go, without having to be responsible
  85. Profile photo of flatheman
    flatheman Male 18-29
    4 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:26 am
    for alot of people.

    I of course have no way to back myself up on what I`m about to say. So take what Im about to say with a pinch of salt.

    Economic Sanctions

    Another reason that they wont say about not going in, is that they already have an embargo, that would render any American company taking oil from them useless. So in effect, invading Sudan will have no benefit on them. Anyone who doesnt believe that a part of the reason for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was for the oil, should really rethink and read up on the issue. According to that guy, America took away Saddam because he was an evil fascist dictator. They will they intervene on evil democracies? I cant find an example where they have..
    This tells us tha

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    RoxyOViolet Female 18-29
    6 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:28 am
    Someone mentioned hating what feminism stands for even though they are a women. Feminism is merely the belief that women should have the same rights as men. Why you would disagree with this is beyond me, lady.
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    flatheman Male 18-29
    4 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:28 am
    Huh, I thought I was in the 1000 characters... Ok, well the link was going to say: This link tells us that the USA and USSR caused most of the dictatorships that happened these days.
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    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
    2196 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:29 am
    I had trouble understanding what he saying. He needs to speak more clearly and get a better camera.
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    flatheman Male 18-29
    4 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:38 am
    Some parts of the feminism movement I hate. (Like some ways they try to achieve it, the constant suspicion that women weren`t chosen for a job, because men were "better". Or the constant quotes of spin they have. They quote things like more men are employed in government then women, but it`s a democracy, nothing is stopping women being voted in. Also, to vote for someone because of their gender isn`t very smart. Lots of men aren`t employed in Babycare jobs. Is that sexiest??? Also, why should every job be 1 man to 1 woman ratio?) I think that`s what she meant. I`m sure she believes that woman should be treated as equals to men. (All races, gender, sexual orientation and religion, etc, should be treated equally.)

    I personally disagree that women should have more rights then men involving children. It`s just ridiculous how much rights men don`t have compared to women. Anyway, thats alot off topic...

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    wolfpup13 Female 13-17
    67 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:51 am
    good points....but i still hate america (an i am american...)
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 6:51 am
    Roxy.
    Feminism isn`t that simple.

    Radical feminism, sparatist feminism, liberal feminism, feminist psychology, the feminist movement, etc all have varying degrees of equality.

    For example, there is the belief men and women are the same vs the belief that they are different but equal.

    There`s the concept of measured equality: That to maintain equality women should have better air conditioning in prisons because they are less able to cope with the heat.

    Versus the concept of absolute equality:
    Men should have maternity leave.

    There`s the idea that women`s numbers should be artifically forced to match their male counterparts. (Quotas)

    VS. the concept that you should merely ensure they have the opportunity to work, and that there is minimal discrimination.

    Etc.

    Not to mention Feminism the movement isn`t feminism the idea.

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    babyike Male 30-39
    119 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 7:47 am
    That guy has it all right.
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    eleutherarch Female 13-17
    1002 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 8:01 am
    ...huh?
  94. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 8:46 am
    I dig it and I like the fact that the guy has some stones. You don`t have to agree with him, and I doubt it would alter his opinion if you did. Either way, he has my support.
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    madrain Female 18-29
    52 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 9:46 am
    Would actually be funnny if the guy wasn`t serious.
    So if I understand here I am with the following choice:
    - Support democracy, the West, free thought, stability; or
    -Support Saddam,terrorists,Milosevic and fascism

    Well, obviously you stupid git, that is an easy choice.
    HOWEVER what do you do in the real world where nothing is black or white?

    Here are a few things you missed in your "reading" :
    - It is possible to be be a secular state with a Muslim population (Turkey)
    - It is possible to intervene in nations for other reasons than "saving democracy" (cf Chinese in Darfour. I also suggest reading "Colonization : a Global history by Marc Ferro)
    - You can believe the prevention of war (via the United nations perhaps?)AND not hate the soldiers fighting it
    - It is possible to fight terrorism (Al Qaeda but also ETA, IRA...) without ostracising about a billion Muslims
    - And finally it is definitley possible to support democracy and fr

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    madrain Female 18-29
    52 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 9:48 am
    free thought without Guantanamo you f*ing hypocrite!!!
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    murrymalty Female 18-29
    2673 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 9:56 am
    um...dickhead?
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    IslandLotus Female 18-29
    410 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 9:59 am
    R_U_Kidding: "I still find it strange that he brought feminism, gay-rights and other liberalisms into the fray. It really does seem as though he`s accusing them of being on the side of lunacy instead of logic."

    He asked where the feminists and gay rights activists were because the same people who are crying out for their freedoms here are not crying out against the execution of gays in Muslim countries or the outrageous oppression of women in the middle east. The same people cry, "Darfur! Do something about Darfur! Innocent people are being massacred!", yet executions and torture of those with political opposition were happening in Iraq and they disagree with us going in and destroying Saddam`s regime. Where were the gay activists when Ahmadinejad said that gays did not exist in his country? Many liberals clapped wildly for him when he spoke at Columbia, despite the fact that gays are executed in Iran. Sounds like lunacy since they protest Christian fundamenta

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    murrymalty Female 18-29
    2673 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 10:06 am
    i reckon no one`ll read this, but anyway :-)

    has anyone been to Saudi Arabia?
    Or the U.A.E?
    im certain there islamic?
    oh yes they are, and they also happen to be filthy rich!
    I think he should read a history book the muslims invented the bath, the compass and even the hand grenade as much as 400 years before the west. in the islamic calender this year is around 1430
    in 1430 what were christians doing?? burning people at the stake an goin on witch hunts. so i do believ they should be given a chance.
    throughout history wars have been faught against the muslims so now when they decide to try and fight back they are all of a sudden a threat to the west. dont get me wrong, there`s nothin wrong with either but you can pick bad poo and good poo from both sides

    so...
    STFU and stop tryin to be clever
    history`ll probly repeat itself:
    in the 13th century the cathars seperated themslevs from christisnity, they were seen as a plague to the world, after finally suppre

  100. Profile photo of murrymalty
    murrymalty Female 18-29
    2673 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 10:08 am
    ...ssing them through much violence christianity continued blah blah
    something like that`ll probly happen but i dont know who will win
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    FTAB2010 Male 18-29
    28 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 10:18 am
    I love how when he mentions an activist group, you idiots quickly jump to the conclusion that he hates them. Did you listen to what he said, or are you such boobs that you don`t give a rat`s ass about his message until he challengingly and accurately mentions a group of people? This guy has very strong points, and I suggest you watch again, and actually pay attention to what he says this time.
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    zenderlee Female 40-49
    11 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 10:38 am
    I am a liberal, Democrat, feminist. And I agree with this point of view. I am an atheist, and used to feel all religions were equally bad. I no longer feel that way. I`d rather live under ANY Christian regime than under ANY Muslim one. And I am so grateful for the separation of church and state here, even if that separation is shaky. There IS no separation in many parts of the world.
  103. Profile photo of Maelstrom_x
    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
    1883 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 10:54 am
    Wow, nice to know most IABers are such progressive, intelligent people that they plug their ears with their fingers and hum when something they might not like is being said.

    Seriously, what the hell. How can you be proud of "not paying attention" to something? Please stop posting. If it didn`t interest you, move on to the next item instead of sharing your non-existant opinion.

    Now that I`m done saying that, ehh, the argument was a bit weak because he assumes that either you are for the war or for Islam taking over the world. However, he is right when it comes to the simple fact that regardless of what we have done or what we will do, the extremists will hate us regardless simply because of our religions (or lack thereof) and our democracy.

    I do agree though, where`s the "women`s rights" and "gay rights" talk? Cultural relativism? PC police?

    Hypocrisy in the far left? Never!

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    Drahcir Male 13-17
    144 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 11:25 am
    I completely agree with everything he said. Although GWB is a bit of a nob.
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    IslandLotus Female 18-29
    410 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 11:36 am
    Thank you, Maelstrom_x. I agree with everything you said.
  106. Profile photo of mal_BB
    mal_BB Male 18-29
    1231 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm
    Bull poo. The guys a complete arse. How can you `choose sides`?. He didn`t mention china and its abysmal human right records at all. Or Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. Yes Sadaam was an evil dictator, who killed many of his own people, but it goes on all over the world; Hu Jintao, Stalin, Robert Mugabe. Are we really going to invade all of these countries? They need to solve their own problems; after all, Great Britain, America and Europe did, why the hell can`t they?
  107. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm
    fcuk this guy, all i heard was "lie, lie of omission, distortion of the truth, jingoism, jingoism, jingoism, democracy, limp-wristed left wings fags, jingoism, I suck George Bush`s d!ck."

    BTW 2 things first Iraq invaded Kuwait b/c Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq which is illegal and the US gave Iraq the go ahead to invade b4 we flip flopped after a Kuwaiti princess got to the media and started telling a bunch of lies about atrocities committed by Iraqi`s

    Saddam sent in hte Republican Guard and told them "treat Kuwait as though it were your home," and that IS what they did irrevocably

    Secondly a fascist dictatorship and a Muslim theocracy are NOT mutually exclusive, Islam is complimentary to that form of government and who are we to say it is wrong? Saddam hasn`t committed any atrocities that could be compared to those of America against the Filipinos (sp?) or the Native Americans. As far as violent regimes go America is beating the crap out of anyone exc

  108. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:09 pm
    ept russia and germany (maybe Japan during the rape of nanking but I`m still pretty sure we have them beat)
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
    4682 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm
    To sum up anything I would post...
    “I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally.” - WC Fields
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    mlchris Female 18-29
    920 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 12:48 pm
    his teeth looked black..?
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    panicxparado Female 13-17
    73 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    I like this guy.
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    MorknGork Male 13-17
    5 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    murrymalty - "I think he should read a history book the muslims invented the bath, the compass and even the hand grenade as much as 400 years before the west."

    Actually, the compass was invented by the Chinese and estimated to be used around the 9th century (as a navigational tool), though the first recorded use was in the early 1400`s. Also, the hand grenade is credited to the Chinese around the 10th century. Keep in mind these were around the times of the Song dynasty, which was Buddhist and Neo-Confucian.

    Baths....well they are very old.

  113. Profile photo of jetmark
    jetmark Male 30-39
    1024 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    feminists? gays? liberals?
    what does that have to do with the price of oil?
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    BABY_BEAR Female 18-29
    1395 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:29 pm
    I stopped it after he said America started to gulf war to defend kuwait (as if it was some sort of altruistic super hero intervention). People dont risk their troops if theyre not serving their self interest.
  115. Profile photo of galaxguy
    galaxguy Male 18-29
    92 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    I think what he is saying is true, there are only two sides.

    Think about it like a spectrum with a line down the middle. On the left side of the line you have those who would have western democracy fall. On the right you have those that would see it stand.

    He is not telling you to pick a side between conservative and liberal he is saying you must be on one side of the line or the other.

    Some are closer to the line, some are farther away, but you must be on one side or the other.

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    boredfjord Male 13-17
    928 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    So if those liberals are pseudo liberals then who are the real liberals? The problem this this kind of political polarization is the liberal and conservative aren`t mutually exclusive. He`s just an angry, pretentious ranting conservative warmongering douche who thinks he has a monopoly on history. Additionally, the past is irrelevant when considering current issues. Whatever the U.S. might have done in the past that was good does nothing to make up for the pooty things we`re doing now.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
    928 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 3:13 pm
    Also, the first "fact" out of his mouth isn`t true. First of all, it`s nearly impossible to judge who "fought hardest" on behalf of Muslims, but it`s definitely not the U.S. Since he says "in all history" I would imagine the answer is probably the Ottoman Empire.
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    Mafibofweeb9 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    manorrd

    lol?

    ur in ur 30s dude


    anywayz hes right and wrong u see the facts may be true but since he is British he is technically not a real person

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    toneman Male 30-39
    527 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 5:16 pm
    Wow! Normally, I would disagree with people speaking on this topic. However, this guy has it right on the mark! As a US citizen, I must admit that I am not a bit fan of G.W. Bush. In fact, I think that he is and embarrassment and will go down as the worst president our country has ever seen. However, I love our country and, by and large, the government that it operates under. As he has said, a democracy is far better that a theocracy or a dictatorship under the likes of Hussein.

    As I’ve stated in the past, I am actually US born. I am serving overseas at the moment.

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    TieDyePlatap Male 18-29
    75 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 5:53 pm
    I reallu think calling thsi man is wildy inappropriate Once again I disagree with him but he has a right to his opinion just like every one else here.
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    germylaw Female 40-49
    1 post
    May 5, 2008 at 5:56 pm
    thank you very much from an American who appreciates that there is at least one BRIT who gets it. God Bless our ally, Great Britain and my prayers go out to EURABIA... that they wake up before it`s too late.
  122. Profile photo of muffliato
    muffliato Male 18-29
    65 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 7:35 pm
    three cheers for the soldiers and three cheers for you, good sir.

    although in the video it kinda came across like he was hating on all Muslims, but I`m educated enough to know that he is educated enough to know what he`s talking about. which is the radical sects, of course. with that cleared up i would like to say BRAVO

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    Agentk120 Male 18-29
    510 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 7:43 pm
    Everyone posting (and the guy in this video) is being very silly.
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    mandapanda28 Female 13-17
    112 posts
    May 5, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    psuedo liberal floppies! that got me..but that seemed a little boring..i only made it through 9 23 seconds
  125. Profile photo of hanintp
    hanintp Male 18-29
    29 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 12:15 am
    Wow a 3.4 stars for this drivel. Way to vilify a good portion of the world. Pick a side and what? Kill your Sudanese neighbor? Support a cronyist draft-dodging warmonger of a president? and for what? Recession? Tax cuts for the rich? Hey at least Halliburton and the oil companies are doing well.
    It`s bullpoo like this that keeps the attention away from real issues. There is no culture war,
    Fox News is not your friend.
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    pvj2000 Male 18-29
    59 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 12:20 am
    Time for the crusades to return!!! Come on really none of this is going to end untill one religion is wiped out! And im an atheist i would be happy if islam was gone out of all the world religions its the worst, at least christianity has progresed over the years! i just want everyone to smack their roosters together and get it over with.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 5:47 am
    Wow. jmk4422 needs to get his head out of his a$$
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    FxyRoxy777 Female 18-29
    652 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 10:44 am
    his lips and teeth grossed me out I couldn`t finish watching it
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    153Fish Male 13-17
    162 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 2:13 pm
    I`m pretty happy with the whole thing he`s saying here. I don`t care what you people say, I agree with him.
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    DemonCurtain Male 18-29
    244 posts
    May 6, 2008 at 9:26 pm
    Simply because Bush and the West is a better option for our people than Islamofacism does not mean that Bush, and his policies of selling out the West, are greater than our alternatives.

    It`s nice to hear his argument, but it`s real easy to out-debate a straw-man.

  131. Profile photo of sandrock42
    sandrock42 Male 13-17
    37 posts
    May 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm
    "WOW Delta255,Such an educated mind. Maybe you need to read a history book on the 70`s and 80`s.
    LISTEN AND LEARN!!!

    wow listen to a book another genius we have here

  132. Profile photo of tatervent
    tatervent Male 18-29
    373 posts
    May 7, 2008 at 5:57 pm
    Even if hes not 100% right, its still blatantly obvious he has twice the intelligence than the liberal, wanna-be intellectual, starbucks humping morons.
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    randyintwin Male 50-59
    730 posts
    May 7, 2008 at 6:50 pm
    wow.. too many posts to finish!
  134. Profile photo of mugzy5
    mugzy5 Male 30-39
    2 posts
    May 8, 2008 at 9:24 am
    Finally............someone that tells it like it REALLY is and has the facts straight. I am sure there will be some Liberal harsh response to this but nothing of substance. I was going to check and read myself but you know what? I gave up trying to understand or debate a Liberal years ago. They have no facts. Only emotional reponse based on anger. As evident on the face of the gentleman that posted a video in response to this. Nice job!! Way to come back.
  135. Profile photo of mugzy5
    mugzy5 Male 30-39
    2 posts
    May 8, 2008 at 9:28 am
    Well said Tatervent. "Oh, let me get my latte and submerse myself in some bullpoo book my professor told me about". Prosessors who happen to be the driving force behind the Liberalist movement. What they never tell you is that most, not all, professors are those that couldn`t hack it in the real world so they decided to teach what they already knew for a living and that way, everyday would be the same. No pressure, no comflicts. Just going to a aprty here and there and talk about how smart I am because I am a professor.
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    scott-13 Male 13-17
    962 posts
    May 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    i kinda like this guy
  137. Profile photo of schfifty
    schfifty Male 13-17
    3 posts
    May 11, 2008 at 7:57 pm
    It`s about time someone has some sense in this world of ours...I almost thought people like him were extinct outside of the good ol` midwest. The world is getting so bad. I feel an apocalypse coming

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