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wow listen to a book another genius we have here
It`s nice to hear his argument, but it`s real easy to out-debate a straw-man.
although in the video it kinda came across like he was hating on all Muslims, but I`m educated enough to know that he is educated enough to know what he`s talking about. which is the radical sects, of course. with that cleared up i would like to say BRAVO
As I’ve stated in the past, I am actually US born. I am serving overseas at the moment.
ur in ur 30s dude
anywayz hes right and wrong u see the facts may be true but since he is British he is technically not a real person
Think about it like a spectrum with a line down the middle. On the left side of the line you have those who would have western democracy fall. On the right you have those that would see it stand.
He is not telling you to pick a side between conservative and liberal he is saying you must be on one side of the line or the other.
Some are closer to the line, some are farther away, but you must be on one side or the other.
Actually, the compass was invented by the Chinese and estimated to be used around the 9th century (as a navigational tool), though the first recorded use was in the early 1400`s. Also, the hand grenade is credited to the Chinese around the 10th century. Keep in mind these were around the times of the Song dynasty, which was Buddhist and Neo-Confucian.
Baths....well they are very old.
BTW 2 things first Iraq invaded Kuwait b/c Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq which is illegal and the US gave Iraq the go ahead to invade b4 we flip flopped after a Kuwaiti princess got to the media and started telling a bunch of lies about atrocities committed by Iraqi`s
Saddam sent in hte Republican Guard and told them "treat Kuwait as though it were your home," and that IS what they did irrevocably
Secondly a fascist dictatorship and a Muslim theocracy are NOT mutually exclusive, Islam is complimentary to that form of government and who are we to say it is wrong? Saddam hasn`t committed any atrocities that could be compared to those of America against the Filipinos (sp?) or the Native Americans. As far as violent regimes go America is beating the crap out of anyone exc
Seriously, what the hell. How can you be proud of "not paying attention" to something? Please stop posting. If it didn`t interest you, move on to the next item instead of sharing your non-existant opinion.
Now that I`m done saying that, ehh, the argument was a bit weak because he assumes that either you are for the war or for Islam taking over the world. However, he is right when it comes to the simple fact that regardless of what we have done or what we will do, the extremists will hate us regardless simply because of our religions (or lack thereof) and our democracy.
I do agree though, where`s the "women`s rights" and "gay rights" talk? Cultural relativism? PC police?
Hypocrisy in the far left? Never!
has anyone been to Saudi Arabia?Or the U.A.E?im certain there islamic?oh yes they are, and they also happen to be filthy rich!I think he should read a history book the muslims invented the bath, the compass and even the hand grenade as much as 400 years before the west. in the islamic calender this year is around 1430in 1430 what were christians doing?? burning people at the stake an goin on witch hunts. so i do believ they should be given a chance.throughout history wars have been faught against the muslims so now when they decide to try and fight back they are all of a sudden a threat to the west. dont get me wrong, there`s nothin wrong with either but you can pick bad poo and good poo from both sides
so...STFU and stop tryin to be cleverhistory`ll probly repeat itself:in the 13th century the cathars seperated themslevs from christisnity, they were seen as a plague to the world, after finally suppre
He asked where the feminists and gay rights activists were because the same people who are crying out for their freedoms here are not crying out against the execution of gays in Muslim countries or the outrageous oppression of women in the middle east. The same people cry, "Darfur! Do something about Darfur! Innocent people are being massacred!", yet executions and torture of those with political opposition were happening in Iraq and they disagree with us going in and destroying Saddam`s regime. Where were the gay activists when Ahmadinejad said that gays did not exist in his country? Many liberals clapped wildly for him when he spoke at Columbia, despite the fact that gays are executed in Iran. Sounds like lunacy since they protest Christian fundamenta
Well, obviously you stupid git, that is an easy choice.HOWEVER what do you do in the real world where nothing is black or white?
Here are a few things you missed in your "reading" :- It is possible to be be a secular state with a Muslim population (Turkey)- It is possible to intervene in nations for other reasons than "saving democracy" (cf Chinese in Darfour. I also suggest reading "Colonization : a Global history by Marc Ferro)- You can believe the prevention of war (via the United nations perhaps?)AND not hate the soldiers fighting it- It is possible to fight terrorism (Al Qaeda but also ETA, IRA...) without ostracising about a billion Muslims- And finally it is definitley possible to support democracy and fr
Radical feminism, sparatist feminism, liberal feminism, feminist psychology, the feminist movement, etc all have varying degrees of equality.
For example, there is the belief men and women are the same vs the belief that they are different but equal.
There`s the concept of measured equality: That to maintain equality women should have better air conditioning in prisons because they are less able to cope with the heat.
Versus the concept of absolute equality:Men should have maternity leave.
There`s the idea that women`s numbers should be artifically forced to match their male counterparts. (Quotas)
VS. the concept that you should merely ensure they have the opportunity to work, and that there is minimal discrimination.
Not to mention Feminism the movement isn`t feminism the idea.
I personally disagree that women should have more rights then men involving children. It`s just ridiculous how much rights men don`t have compared to women. Anyway, thats alot off topic...
I of course have no way to back myself up on what I`m about to say. So take what Im about to say with a pinch of salt.
Another reason that they wont say about not going in, is that they already have an embargo, that would render any American company taking oil from them useless. So in effect, invading Sudan will have no benefit on them. Anyone who doesnt believe that a part of the reason for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was for the oil, should really rethink and read up on the issue. According to that guy, America took away Saddam because he was an evil fascist dictator. They will they intervene on evil democracies? I cant find an example where they have.. This tells us tha
Oh, and by and large indians aren`t muslims.
That is all I could be bothered to say to this hatefilled drivel.
... you cant say much in two minutes. You`d probably need weeks to explore every avenue.
Overall you have to listen to what he says carefully. It is a pretty balanced argument but by no means complete: you cant say much
It`s sad because I can see many people watching this and clinging onto it as a validation for their pro-USA, pro-hypocrisy beliefs. It hurts my soul to watch a video like this when I know how blatant this propoganda is.
Sigh. A lot of people are going to watch this and decide that they have actually studied US involvement in foreign affairs as a result. Fancylad already has, that`s clear. There will be many others.
It`s just sad. I wish people would put down their PS3 controllers and pick up a book or two now and then. But why read anything when you can "trust" stuff on YouTube that people like FancyLad has said is legit?
It`s a travesty.
Is Bush telling the truth? No. The terrorists have goals. They`re not random freedom haters. They want troops out of Saudi, troops out of Iraq, troops out of Afghanistan, right of return for Palestinian refugees. There were no WMDs. Saddam was not a threat. At his rate, it would have taken Saddam 120 years to kill as many Iraqis as have died.
Is Bush succeeding in his stated goals? No. There is more terrorism than before. Not less. There is more anti-Americanism than before. Not less. People are less safe in Iraq. Not more. Americans are less free. Not more.Americans are less safe. Not more.There are more WMDs in the world, and a greater nuclear threat. Not less.
Overall, complete fail. Screw the appeal to emotion. Screw the strawman. Screw any other logical fallacies I`ve missed.
Why are people still falling for arguments like that?
great video anyway x]
I think the two-party system we have in America is depressing. Too many people are willing to subscribe to pre-made ideologies and blindly align their political action (voting and such) to it. And for those of you who really truly do know what you believe and why you believe in it, kudos to you.
Blinding extremism is bad.
I was going to continue on some (hopefully) intelligent-sounding rant, but I am le tired, so let`s just all hug and be friends, k? K.
Ergo, he does need to do more research.
Am I a bad person for this?
Though, I did think and I do agree with some (most definately not all) of what he said.
But war is not black and white.
They hate us for blowback.
The US has been in the middle east bombing for YEARS.
I had to sum things up in the last paragraph, my point being that, as others have pointed out, these things don`t work out with sides. Foreign policy and public relations doesn`t exactly play out like a game of Risk nowadays.
One thing that is foolish about his argument though, is that there aren`t really any sides. Some children, and sometimes whole communities, are raised alongside people who express hatred towards other humans in place of an intellectual argument against foreign affairs, and those children/communities grow up to express illogical, blind dislike in place of thought. You`d think the word would have learned, especially after WWII.
this guy didn`t differentiate between Muslims and terrorists...Its kind of like saying the westboro catholic church represents all those who believe in Jesus.
so pick a side...the west with Bush, or with the middle east in a religious state of fear
well i vote for a third option
Such an educated mind. Maybe you need to read a history book on the 70`s and 80`s.
LISTEN AND LEARN!!!
It was Aristotle who said "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Just because he thinks he`s right and he has all these facts backing him up, though, doesn`t mean he can dismiss and not consider the points of views of others. It is a fool who does not seek to understand the thoughts of his enemy, if only to better defend himself against them.
I don`t hate Muslims at all, have had Muslim friends... but I do hate extreme views of any kind!
God forbid someone has a differing opinion. If you are surprised he only supported his view then you are a drating idiot. He never said that it was unbiased.
No, really, I did. Thank you, public education.
d3athcr33ps. "There are more people dieing all around the world in wars" In all the armed conflicts, how many were STARTED by muslims.
I`m sorry could you clarify what you said, "boring as bush". You seem to think he`s there to bust a rhyme or do stand up? Logic and reason, I think, go in one ear and out the other for a lot of people.
Like he said in the video. Know your subject before you argue. Otherwise, your arguments will fall on deaf ears.
Well, yeah, obviously he`s not very smart if he thinks one picture of Donald and Saddam shaking hands means Saddam was the "puppet of the CIA" lol.
Good for him!
And, he didn`t say he hated feminists, gays and liberals. He was just wondering why these groups aren`t speaking out (as they often do against Christian organizations) against areas of the world where feminists, gays and liberals are brutalized under certain Islamic regimes.
"He started off ok then he just let us know he hates women, gays, and liberals."
Don`t be so quick to accuse someone of hate. Maybe you weren`t aware, but it IS possible to disagree with someone without hating them. For example, I disagree with a lot of what feminism stands for, so does that mean I hate women? Um, obviously not. I am one.
I was also infuriated at his connection between liberals and terrorists. Liberals are not anti-American. They are dissenting with our leadership, which (last I checked) was *good* for American democracy.
Yeah, the guy`s a retarded non-nice individual, his "evidence" means nothing, and he says absolutely nothing interesting. THIS SUCKS!
poo, why couldn`t this come up earlier and save me a lot of research?
I still can`t fully agree with him, even though I like the British!
Sets it on fire