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That sounded way less nerdy in my head.
This is in comparison to the 574 Agnostics (Those who either don`t know for sure or don`t care, by definition) and the 883 Atheist IAB users.
Folks, by the numbers, Theism wins.
also, spelt buddhism wrong
But really, I like the way Buddhism works
"I`m the Malcolm X of AtheismBy any means necessary take it to em`This how I`ll break it to em`Your God is logically impossibleAnd can`t even survive the most basic logical obstaclesGod of the impossible huhIt`d be impossible for him to be the God of impossible stupidYou really need to look at the facts,Look at holes in your religion, look at the cracksInfinite Regression prevents a God from even existingLet alone an intelligent one this is just the beginning"
Just because people can have a set of beliefs doesn`t mean it is called religion. Religion is more complex than that.
I don`t have a religion.
And we`re born atheist to all (made up) gods. It`s the default state. It`s not a religion.
And viczko, YOU`RE an atheist to all gods, but one - the Christian god. Atheists who don`t believe in any, just go one god further than you.
So however you veiw it being an atheist/agnostic is a religiouse choice, even if it is not a religion.
And actually, I think Catholothism/Chistianity is pretty much equal to the rest
It`s like saying Theism as a whole is a religion.
No, no ironies there.
And really, I`m a muslim and an islamist. Redundancy much?
I wish people wouldn`t think their religious choice was right to the exlusion of others, or that it made them better or smarter or more special than anyone else.
Catholicism may or may not be right, but it`s right for me. I hope whatever you choose feels right to you and makes your world better.
powpowking, atheists have accepted that heaven and hell don`t exist. And anyway, being conscious forever - even in paradise - would be a torturous bore. And imagine the horror of suicidal people if an after-life existed. They`d `wake up` and think "Aww... man. My brain is still alive? How long does this go on for?" and then god would say "For all eternity. You *can`t* die" and they`d respond "god, you`re one twisted f***, you know that?". And then all the rest of us will *become* suicidal after a while.
Atheist, although that goes without saying considering, as Hemingway put it, "All thinking men are atheists."
I`m quite surprised, I actually expected more athiests here... I guess they just talk about their own religion more than Christians.
Make research before you say something.
What`s the difference between practicing the Islamic faith and being Muslim?????? Oh. There isn`t any. Ha!
It pertains to knowledge, not belief.
Now, I am neither theist nor atheist. Based on a lot of scientific and spiritual introspection, I have come to believe that "god" is not an entity outside of ourselves, but rather the fundamental energy of which all things in the Universe is composed (based on the findings of Quantum Physics.) Thus, I am neither theist nor atheist. Again, as Zira said, this is the false dilemma fallacy.
I, personally, believe that the modern, societal conception of God is a means by which religions can control and further divide people. This fact has become increasingly evident in today`s tragically "Bush-ist" society.
What better way to gain power over people? Divide and conquer. Make the people fight amongst themselves and they won`t be paying attention to the real enemy. OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK.
This is why you`ll find most atheists to be agnostic. They`re willing to believe/accept god(s) as real were there a sufficient amount of evidence.
I`m not arguing over what `agnostic` means. It`s people considering it a position outside of atheism and theism that I find ignorant.
And in fact, "atheist" doesn`t necessarily mean godless. As puddies quoted earlier from Stephen Roberts: "I contend that we are both atheists - I believe in one less God than you do. Once you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours". So everyone is atheist to at least one god.
Thefore, without knoiwledge.
Whereas, a-theist, is godless
Impossible TO know, not impoosible without the to and without the know
Or you try to change the meanings of them.
We`re born atheist. We`re also born agnostic. Everything else we`re taught or indoctrinated to be.
I have taken several philosophy classes - that is irrelevant. What people are mistaken about is that `agnostic` is a third position, when it is not.
So the best answer one can really give is "I don`t know."--
Agnosticism and gnosticism have to do with knowledge. Saying "I don`t know" is agnostic. But then the question is `agnostic what?`.
Saying "I don`t believe/I lack belief" is atheism. So if one doesn`t believe in Jesus then (s)he is atheist towards Jesus. But also say (s)he isn`t certain of Jesus not existing - that makes the person agnostic-atheist.
QueenZira, how is this a false dilemma fallacy? Or do you just not know the definitions of the words?
Bekll: Uh, hate to say it but everything is not all black and white, like most Americans think. For example: was Jesus a real person? Uh, there`s no proof to the contrary, but there`s not sufficient proof to say he was real either.
So the best answer one can really give is "I don`t know."
Why do people have such a hard time dealing with uncertainty? It`s a part of life!
NicoleIsALie: "Agnostics... we neither believe or disbelieve in God."
Incorrect. You have to either believe or disbelieve. Do you believe Santa Claus is real, or not real? You can`t say "I don`t know". It`s either yes or no.
And that `has to be out there` you deduced from the COMPLETE lack of evidence? Way to show us `heathens`.
Let the bible fight commence.. [:<
Born Muslim, consider myself agnostic.
Am I afraid? No. It’s just that the world is too damn screwed up right know.
I believe in Abraham’s god. Mohammad’s god, Ishmael’s god, Isaac’s god, but I do not take all those words for fact.
There are differences that can cancel out each other, and facts as well that prove events or verses in ways…but these books were still written by mortal men with dreams and notions…
Hey, since we’re all talking in peace where the world is blue and green with a single heart…what do you say we ah…compare books? So to speak?
I`m occasionally a winner with no convictions, too.
Interesting Poll, although I would remove the losers answer.
lol hydroslate, calm down.atheist was there. and atheist do have a conviction, they`re convinced that there is no such thing as a god. whereas religions are convinced of serving, in their opinion, the real god.
I`m certain they`ll `f` it up.
P.S Slightly disturbing that an IAB religious post didn`t end in a holy war? lol people aren`t living up to their usual standards! It`s all been very civilised so far.
There are a lot of hypocritical people out there of ALL religions. Their religions teach them peace, friendship, be good to one another and they do the opposite. Some people belive that going to a place of worship every week makes you a good person, but I know for a fact that there are plenty of people who don`t practice religion that are far better people because they are simply decent to others, not because they go to pray every week.
I disagree with preaching a load of waffle and then not living by it.
And I agree with what you are saying. No one should be hypocritical.
But fyi you`re NOT agnostic if you... "know there`s some divine being, but not sure what""have beliefs that span many religions"or"are too afraid to admit you`re atheist"
Agnostics are people that believe that humans cannot know all of the "answers", due to a faulty perception system.Therefore, we neither believe or disbelieve in God.So if you say "I know there`s something out there.." you`re not agnostic.
But enough of my ranting, lol.
The whole sex/race/religion thing on application forms shouldn`t be relevant I feel.
I`m a bit confused "teaches it specifically" what do u mean? (I lost the thread of the convo somewhere lol.)
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It`s called a delete button. Everyone has access to it.
ok ok. forgiven :P
please don`t generalise! We aren`t all like that lol. Read the above ^
ony joking :)
At first I was just born into it, and I was baptised as a catholic. Then at the age of seven I was happy to sit my communion. Early teens I sat my confirmation to confirm that I wanted to be of the catholic faith. So I most definately chose it.By the time I sat my confirmation I was at an age where I was informed enough and mature enough to decide. I still stand by my choice today although I`m not practicing, I`m happy in my beliefs. Although, as i said earlier I don`t agree with everything, and i accept/am open to considering many parts of other religions.
Also, my parents had no say in my choices. They allowed me to ask questions as learn about other religions if I wanted to. My dad was actually protestant and became catholic when he married my mum. My mum has always been catholic.
Oh dear, we`ll have to fix that. SH.IT F.U.CK. DAMN. PISS. C.O.CKPOTATO.
and if your agnostic, i dont care if your offended because you know its the truth
Being Agnostic also includes being humble enough to concede you don`t know.
Get over yourself, please.
Then again, I could just be extreme.
cambriaseyes, I would definately disagree with Catholocism being a cult, it`s a well established religion (I know this may not be your personal view), but I do agree when you say there are big differences between catholicism and other branches of christianity. Personally, I would class RC as christian because aside from the differences, there are also numerous similarities.
Enough religious argument for today, I`m off to umm... not argue about religion?
That is the most ill-formed sentence I`ve seen all day. Which is actually quite an accomplishment, I applaud you.
See: Martin Luther
Haha, I think that`s why I`m also here so much. IAB religious arguments rock.
And that`s why the internet is a cesspool of human vice, and also why I spend so much time on it.
Seriously, if you don`t know their viewpoint or perspective, don`t be negative about it or them.
Is it too much to ask that people actually show each other respect? If people want to debate, they should debate, not insult.
What a wonderful life.
Atheism is an opinion regarding religion, and therefore I don`t see why it`s inappropriate to discuss it here.
Muslim is one who follows Islam.
Does your god not teach kindness and acceptance? Why are you an ass and intolerant then?
Although my favorite part is when Jesus swallows a puzzle piece and has to be taken to the hospital by the man in the big yellow hat.
To be honest, I`m not a religious person, but I was baptized as a Christian(Lutheran)
Blinded by religion much? You can have your imaginary friends if you want, it doesn`t bother me, but attacking me for not having an imaginary friend is something I don`t take well to.
I definitely don`t parade around telling everyone how "cool" I am because I`m an athiest. I also don`t post huge ying-yangs in forums to proclaim how great my religion, or lack thereof, is.
One more: I don`t insult your beliefs to better my own.
and if your agnostic, i dont care if your offended because you know its the truth
Hahahahaha best word filter ever. Anyways yeah, this poll reads like it was written by a blind retarded kid who just learned english and the existence of all these religions yesterday.
and as for the ying yang, I always love that symbol and what it means.
The fck dude? That`s a VERY bad joke. An atheist has no convictions, so they`re losers?Douchebaggery at its finest, and whoever submitted that mocked the 70+ athiests here. I seem to be the only one that realized it...unless I`m wrong?
I know, Puddies. I was just hoping to keep it that way. The description implied "Taking the gloves off" which usually denotes argument or debate.
For the record, I am Christian, but I don`t believe that Christ is God. I don`t believe in the "Holy Trinity." I do believe that he is the son of God and is our savior. That`s a different view than mainstream Christianity, though. And Catholics are Christians, so they shouldn`t have their own entry in the poll.
I strong believe the "something" out there right now is the holiness of the Human spirit and Human consciousness.
I haven`t studied philosophy enouvgh either to know what that`s called.
I chose Agnostic.
Live and learn. =)
Have fun posting your pointless arguments about religion, I`m gonna sleep. Laters