I-A-B Poll o` the Day: Kids & Gender Reassignment

Submitted by: fancylad 9 years ago in

With the news of that 12-year-old girl being allowed to get a sex change, would you let your (future) kid do the same?
There are 82 comments:
Female 667
If I had a child (which I highly doubt that I ever will) I would support them in every way I could. I wouldn`t care if they were gay, bisexual, a drag queen, or trans-gender. They would still be my kid no matter what.
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Male 107
other-

id let them get the hormone treatment but id make them wait tll 18 cause then they`re adults and can do what they please

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Female 96
What does a kid even KNOW at 12 years old?? At 12, I wanted to be a cat. Now I know that fleas must suck, and that cat-guy..is just plain creepy.
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Female 182
I wouldn`t let them at 12 it`s far to young to be certain, but if the were a little older then maybe.
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Male 1,226
Mani : If your child decides he/she wants to be the other sexe, they`d need to take hormone blockers for 4 years...Gives them plenty of time to think it through, doesn`t it? The hormone blockers ARE REVERSEABLE, the hormones itself aren`t. So when the child wants to go through, they can swallow a big load of hormones and wait another 2 years untill they can finely go under the knife.
If they decide this at 12, they`ll get surgery when they`re 17-18...
This poll is getting false results because everybody thinks the same as you do, but you got to read the fine print! By the time they need to make their last decision, they`ll almost be adults and WILL know the right thing to do.
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Male 1,226
AND: This is not plastic surgery! Well, technically it is, but plastic surgery is vain and pointless and the children don`t even know what either both of those words mean! It makes them happy, just understand, and accept that.

(Sorry about the long post/rant on idiotic people, I just like to clear my opinion (: )

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Male 1,226
And yes, I think they`d need to consider it, think of what they`re going to do and how`s it going to effect them, but if they`re sure, backed up from psychiatrists, there is no way in hell I`d say no!
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Male 1,226
I think it`s disgusting...

No, I`m not a complete moron, please read on.

I think it`s disgusting howmany people here say no to something their child would really really really want. i mean, REALLY, want. Why would you possibly say no, I can`t imagine. I think most people here are as abusive as the guy who said: "I hope your kids get raped".
As for the dude(ette, maybe) who said: "Gender is not a choice": YES IT IS DAMNIT!

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Female 406
I picked no. It`s not that I would be against my child getting a sex change eventually...it`s just that I wouldn`t let him or her do it at the age of 12. You can`t make a decision like that at 12 years old. That`s a time when everyone is incredibly awkward and feeling weird about their bodies.
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Female 262
I voted yes. Because any child with a birthdefect needs it altered.
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Male 98
In this case THERE ISN`T A "I`ll let them do it when they`re older".

Hormone blockers just delay puberty. They don`t do anything bad to the person. It isn`t a sex change.

But they CAN`T BLOCK PUBERTY AFTER THEY`VE HAD PUBERTY!
Once they`ve had it, they`ve had it. Suicide risk has just rocketed, and you ain`t gonna bring it down again ever. Because they`re gonna be stuck like that for the rest of their entire life.

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Male 4,546
Looks like the nos have it in a big way.
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Female 523
I`m 13 and i know what hormones can make you want to do.

I would want them to think for a long time first.

But yeah, my hormones make me burst into tears the moment something bad happens ( at home) or want to eat my guinea pig alive (No f*ing joke there)

Of course, i have creepy hormones, but they can`t be too wierd, right?

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Female 1,172
I would want to know why my child is choosing this operation. If they feel strongly about the fact that they were born as the incorrect sex I would have them go through all the regular psychiatric steps to make sure this is truly how they feel. If I feel the child is mature enough to understand all the consequences at that age, then absolutely, it`s better for the mental health of the child. If they seem unsure at all though, I would ask them to wait a couple years and see how they feel, and we`ll talk about it again. Even if it is reversible, the hormones will stop puberty so they need to be sure about it before they take even the first step.
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Male 2,506
OTHER!

i would beat my kid until they did it themselves, so thats a fck NO

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Female 531
if they want to be reassigned, whatever, but not until after they are done fully growing! i`d love em any which way
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Female 4,197
umm isn`t that the point? they are having surgery at 18...
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Female 738
I think people are trying to be too PC with this.

Even if a child for eight years has felt they are the wrong gender, there is still a process that has to be followed regarding psychological testing. There are other, reversible things this kid can do. Gender reassignment surgery is PERMANENT. If you are okay with a 12 year old making a permanent decision about their body, then you really have no idea about adolescent development. A kid at this point is really still latent or just coming into adolescent sexual exploration. Why would you, as the responsible guardian to that child, give consent on this when, because of their development, they could a few years down the road feel differently. Now, if this kid at sixteen or seventeen is still feeling this way, then permanent surgery might be viable WHEN THEY ARE 18.

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Male 4,012
Not at 12, like many others. Once they`re 18 then I`ll let them go whereever.
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Female 4,197
ahh ok. I would be devastated if my boy ran away in the middle of the night. Regardless of a bf/gf/by himself. But hopefully if I`ve brought him up right he shouldn`t feel the need to run away. We tell him all the time he can talk to us about anything. Instead of being naughty or hurting his sisters when they were born he actually told us he was feeling left out :) He`s so sweet. He understood after we told him babies need more attention, but I`m glad he let`s us know instead of acting out. I hope he never changes *crosses fingers* lol
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Male 7,933
Shellie, not the going out i mean the running away at the middle of the night part
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Female 412
for the record i like the forum discussion and competitions etc...
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Female 4,197
I have a gay brother, I have lesbian friends. I think after the shock I could deal with my son and his boyfriend. Communication, not degradation ;)
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Female 412
i would say wait until they`re older, i remember being 12... just and what I thought and liked then is not really what I like now.

People can change thier mind, and then what?

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Male 7,933
"omg! I hope your children never come to you saying they are gay the poor things! When I gave birth to my son I swore from that day on I would support him in all his decisions in life. He is my child, he came out of me, something I created. If I could see from the age he his now up to twelve and it was very telling he was "girly" and he came to me about this I would get him checked out with psyches and let him go ahead with it. Last post I spoke about an old friend, we could tell he was gay early on, even though we never had a name for it. And the brains, brains are swapped. Most interesting though, it`s mainly americans who are against this... hmm"

You would support every decision? Wait til he is 16 and runs off with his boyfriend I guess?

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Female 4,197
another good debate would be one about naked kids being photographed and claimed to be "art"... I would submit the link to the article but I doubt it would get put up :(
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Female 220
I would absolutely let one of my kids have a sex change operation when they were 12. It would be the ultimate "I told you so" later on. Just the ultimate.
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Male 20,920
KMeatPiLover

Female, 18-29, Canada
42 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:11:53 PM
I`m sick of you and your stupid poles fancylad!

what happened to buddy?
he didn`t feel the need to insert his opinions into every post

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Hey, guess what--you can leave, now. Please.

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Male 2,172
I wouldn`t let my kid have a sex change even if he/she would pay for it.
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Female 200
I would have them wait until they were older and then make the decision again-to be sure it is what they want, but I would still fight tooth and nail I think.
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Female 4,197
ok thegrag, let me clarify. If I wanted any of my children to be doctors, but they chose to be vets, or carpenters, then I would support that just as much. I love them and want them to be happy. I`m not going to give them choccie or whatever because they want it because thats just trivial, and giving in to them about crap like that when they throw a tantrum sets them up to a selfish life as an adult. If my children TRULY felt they were in the wrong body from a young age, like I said in the post your quoting from, then I would support that too. I support them on the big decisions in life, not giving in to temper tantrums. I want to set an example to my children, and a good one at that.

My dad is a bit of a religious nut and even he concedes with this, why? Because it is (as some still seem to be missing the point) REVERSIBLE. There will be no permanent sex change operations until she is 18, not 12, like some of you appear to be thinking

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Male 47
Kids? I don`t care what sex they are or want to be. The stick is firmly up my arse.
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Female 326
I would support my kid for being trasgendered, and allow cross-dressing, etc, but I`d urge them to wait for the actual surgerie and hormone-treatment... if he realizes he`s made the wrong choice, and is really a girl, he`s screwed for a 12-yo mistake. He can wait, and if he still is sure in a few years, then fine.
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Female 375
id have my child wait til she/he was older before i`d let him/her get it. just to make sure that`s what he/she wants. if he/she still wants it after a few years, then i`d be ok with it. =]
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Male 1,497
Shellie, I doubt you supported ALL of your child`s decisions (example:" I WANT (some kind of desert or treat) MOMMY! RAAAAHHHWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAA"
"No. Not untill after dinner."
BUT MOOOOOOOOMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!! I NEEEEEEED ITTTTT!"). Unless you`re a rich person handing everything to him on a silver plater so he won`t complain or yell, and if thats true I can`t wait to see how he crumbles on his own. Unless he lives in your house forever...
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Male 297
i said other...i wouldn`t mind my kid having that, but i sure as hell wouldn`t want to pay for it, it`s pretty expensive yeah?
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Female 115
When they are a little older, yes.
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Male 1,497
"if i had a twelve year old girl who wanted to be a boy, i would say "go ahead and have the surgery but remember this: i have a daughter and not a son. If you become a boy i will throw your ass into the street and from then on you would be dead to me."

Exactly what I would do.^

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Male 209
Lol @ RPossum.

On-topic: I picked other. why? I wouldnt let my kid get a sex change if it was for a gay ass reason, however if it was something that was MANDATORY (AKA he/she/it needs it badly due to some reason) then I owuld let he/she/it do it.

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Female 168
Don`t forget that the article says the child can`t get surgery until he`s 18, so it`s just hormonal therapy now to stop puberty from setting in.
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Female 58
I voted other. I would be totally against it because i`d feel that my child is just that. A child. In my opinion, they`d be too young to totally understand what they want in life, and i`d hate to see them waste their live on a decision they made before they were able to understand and make their own choices in life.

If my child was considerably older, no matter what they wanted to do (within reason obviously) i`d be supportive of what made them happy.

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Female 168
Gender is as much a choice as homosexuality. Maybe even less as it`s harder to deny it. If someone is born male or female, that`s what they are. But you can`t see their mind from just seeing the outside.


Physically a person is male or female until the outside is changed. Biologically, DNA-wise, that person will always have XX or XY chromosomes. I think it`s sweet that the transgendered guy wants to be considered the first pregnant male, but I have a hard time accepting that he wants to be. If he still has female genitals, then he`s a pregnant woman, though I can see why he would want to considered the first pregnant male.

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Female 168
I would let my child have it if s/he were old enough (at least 18), but not at 12. That`s a bit much for a 12-year-old. I`m supportive of those that want it/have had it, but not at 12. A child of that age has yet to really get to know his/her own body/self and it is a big decision that would need a lot of thought put into it by both parent(s) and child.
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Female 15,763
I just don`t think it`s a decision, guys...
It`s as much of a decision as a personality trait is.
In fact, it`s less of a decision. Personality develops along with your frontal lobe, which helps you make decisions. Gender and sex have already developed long before puberty even starts.
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Male 1,406
12 is not the proper age to make a life-changing decision like that
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Male 486
amazing sdo many people voted against it kinda kewl children should not have sex changes no one should really but
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Female 781
I said no. I don`t think that children have a good idea of what`s best for them at that age. When they are adults, they can do what they like, but I`m not going to let them do that when they are children.
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Male 68
I would always be strongly against the idea, but if they had been assessed by professionals and they were an adult (+18) then I couldn`t stop them. It is their decision.
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Female 532
KMeatPiLover: "I`m sick of you and your stupid poles fancylad!"

C`mon, not all the Polish are stupid ;)

Haha, I`d never have children, so I chose the stick-too-far-up-arse option thing.

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Male 98
Yes, you`re right razordragon. i don`t know which side you`re on though.

Gender is as much a choice as homosexuality. Maybe even less as it`s harder to deny it. If someone is born male or female, that`s what they are. But you can`t see their mind from just seeing the outside.

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Male 98
One thing has been missed here:

The 12 year old is not having a sex change. He is just delaying his female puberty. It is reversible.

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Male 336
GENDER IS NOT A CHOICE.
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Male 4,393
No, there is no way in hell I`d let my kid have the operation. .... :P
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Female 160
It would be hard, but if this is what my child needed I don`t see any other alternative. What else could I do, but continue to show my love and support. It can`t be easy when you feel like your body is not yours, or that you don`t belong. Having your family turn against you would make it even more unbearable.
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Female 4
Did yall even read the original article? For 8 years(maybe longer being unable to express how they felt) that child felt like they were in the wrong body. It wasn`t that the kid turned around one day and said "Hey mom, I want to be a boy."

It`s not the age that matters. You shouldn`t say yes OR no. You should ask why, and support the child in finding happiness. Someone said "shame on you" for letting a child have body-altering surgery. I say shame on YOU for not truly supporting your child.

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Female 738
I would not allow my 12 year old to have it done; I don`t feel 12 is old enough to make such a big decision...

I watched this BBC special about a boy who wanted to have the whole gender reassignment thing done. It`s a long, tedious process that involves psychological testing to make sure there is truly a gender identity disorder. You can`t just walk in and have it done.

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Male 1,556
Well. If my child was positive about it. Then I really dont see anything wrong with it. I wouldnt want to put my child through being in the wrong body. I think it like buying a puppy.
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Female 4,197
"if i had a twelve year old girl who wanted to be a boy, i would say "go ahead and have the surgery but remember this: i have a daughter and not a son. If you become a boy i will throw your ass into the street and from then on you would be dead to me.""

omg! I hope your children never come to you saying they are gay the poor things! When I gave birth to my son I swore from that day on I would support him in all his decisions in life. He is my child, he came out of me, something I created. If I could see from the age he his now up to twelve and it was very telling he was "girly" and he came to me about this I would get him checked out with psyches and let him go ahead with it. Last post I spoke about an old friend, we could tell he was gay early on, even though we never had a name for it. And the brains, brains are swapped. Most interesting though, it`s mainly americans who are against this... hmm

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Female 338
Imagine back when you were 12... if you were completely sure that you were meant to be the opposite sex. Then why wait to have the operation?

Why should you go through the wrong puberty if you don`t have to?

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Male 178
hell nah
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Male 551
Fancylad sure knows how
to keep the forums active

I voted for Yes, and i
think i made my point
on the other post

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Female 129
I`m sick of you and your stupid poles fancylad!

what happened to buddy?
he didn`t feel the need to insert his opinions into every post

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Female 2,196
I would never let my kid do that no matter what age.
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Male 629
Not at 12, that`s too young for such a big decision.

Then again, I don`t even want kids.

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Male 1,122
Hmm, I chose other. There doesn`t seem to be the option that I would force my kid to do it so I could have the boy I always wanted.
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Male 1,114
I said I would let them, but fight against it, because if a child is willing to fight strongly for something, they truly want it.

Also, the only thing the Australian(?) parents let their daughter have was hormone treatment, which is reversible.

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Female 1,697
I`d let my son or doughter have a sex change if she`s 21 or older, not less. after the 21, do whatever you wanna do, before nope.
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Male 65
if i had a twelve year old girl who wanted to be a boy, i would say "go ahead and have the surgery but remember this: i have a daughter and not a son. If you become a boy i will throw your ass into the street and from then on you would be dead to me."
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Male 163
Lets face it, if the child wants the surgery that badly, I think they`re pretty damn sure. This isn`t an issue though, up until 18 they can only have REVERSIBLE hormone treatment to stop them going through the hell of puberty in the wrong body. After 18, their body`s their own to do with what they see fit. Plus, this child will have been psychologically assessed to kingdom come, the professionals are also pretty sure this is a true gender re-assignment candidate
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Female 59
I agree with ppasion, I would let them after they`re an adult, but only after counseling and whatever they need to assist them with their decision.
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Female 168
stick too far in ass
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Female 31
I would let my child go through with it, but not at 12. I would support them in taking the steps they`d need before being able to have the procedure done, and once they were 16, then I would agree to it. 12 just seems much to young for me.
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Female 104
Not at 12 NO WAY NO HOW would I let them do something like this. But at a non minor age such as duh...over 18, then I would support them only after extensive counseling and any other therapy they may need to decide. As an adult no one should be able to tell you what to do. But as a 12 year old (CHILD) they need time to grow up and be sure.....REAL SURE
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Female 8
if my child was 12, no. but if s/he was about 18 or 20 i would go tell him/her to go do it. hell i would even help them find a doctor. it is there decision and theres nothing to do about it but accept it.
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Male 516
I would thell the kid that he can do whatever he/she wants when he/sche turns eighteen... And that I am not prohibiting him to perform the operation because I don´t want it, but because she/he´s too young and might change his opinion...
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Male 109
Let the flaming debate begin .
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Female 104
Personally, I`d rather my kids wait until they were mature enough to really think such a rash decision before going through with the surgery. Twelve is too young an age to do something as life-changing as that. Although I would never think of doing that to myself, I feel that it`s their body, and they have every right to do whatever they want to do with it. But then again, I`ve got a long time ahead of me before I have kids, lol.
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Male 109
my children will never ever do anything that stupid. in fact they would never have plastic surgery at all.
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Female 34
Yeah I don`t think a 12 year old understands the weight of what they`re doing. Wait until they`re adults and can really make that decision.
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Female 449
I would never, ever let my kids get any type of surgery to change thier physical appearance... And those of you that support this type of thing; SHAME ON YOU!
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Male 20,920
Male 20,920
Link: I-A-B Poll o` the Day: Kids & Gender Reassignment [Rate Link] - With the news of that 12-year-old girl being allowed to get a sex change, would you let your (future) kid do the same?
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