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Date: 05/28/08 09:01 PM

134 Responses to How`s That For Democracy?

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 5:39 pm
    Link: How`s That For Democracy? - Special needs kid is voted out of his class by his fellow kindergarteners.
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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 5:41 pm
    ugh, after trying to listen to his mom talk, i would`ve voted that kid out too. annoying.
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    jdotjdot89 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:06 pm
    democracy = lose

    hooray for fascism

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    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:10 pm
    did you post this just to bash on autistic kids, fancylad?
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    Baconeater Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:10 pm
    how did she get to teach?
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    dilldog123 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    nvm, youre talking about his mom. my bad.
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    mitro Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    Teacher should be fired, sorry it`s a classroom and not a game of "survivor". Absolute horsepoo. If the kid is not behaving, talk to them, send them to the principals office, call the parents. Don`t ask kids what they don`t like about the child and then ask them to vote to keep or kick him out of class. Disgusting.I VOTE NO!
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    mitro Male 18-29
    37 posts
    May 28, 2008 at 9:12 pm
    Ugh i didnt type horsepoo. Stupid Filters.
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    sheaton319 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    thats drated up
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    mrwnt Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    this is the most outrageous thing i`ve ever heard of! How dare that teacher kick a kid with autism out of kindergarten. I want to smack her!

    i can`t put into words how angry this makes me. This teacher should never be allowed to teach again. Society as a whole has too little respect for the mentally challenged. This is horrible

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    vancouverite Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:20 pm
    and now she will sue the schoolboard, and rightly so. the teacher can`t do that...or am i mistaken? did survivor buy the school system for their new reality show?
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    LBlues Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:21 pm
    Microsoft
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:21 pm
    The inner video production geek in me is crying for that poor microphone. T___T

    I`m sure that what she said isn`t EXACTLY what happened. The teacher probably said it a different way.
    I wonder what the principal thinks, and if that teacher is fired. Because it should be the teacher that leaves, not the kid.
    Also, I remember at my school the special needs kids had a separate classroom. I was one of the volunteers that would go in a play with them on my free time. =) They really are wonderful, and so loving. I always got lots of hugs. ^-^

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    TheDoc2044 Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:23 pm
    See, this is why waterboarding and other forms of torture should be legal. That "teacher" is a prime candidate for being tortured....daily and excessively. That kind of action can emotionally screw someone up for a LONG time. Let`s vote her out of the human race.
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    Ashwindow Female 18-29
    775 posts
    May 28, 2008 at 9:23 pm
    This makes me so angry! drating teacher and principal say they didnt do anything drating wrong! They are so very wrong!
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    Shoyz Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:23 pm
    Is anybody else hearing is anybody an hearing echo an echo?
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    subzeroblue2 Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:25 pm
    some people should just not be around kids
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:28 pm
    Well now we should all get to Vote to decide if the Teacher gets to keep her Job. I for one Vote NO.
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    Gadget522 Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:28 pm
    assburgers
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    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm
    See, here`s the problem I`m having. I hate stupidity. I truly do. I find myself thinking very violent thoughts about people who demonstrate excessive stupidity. Like this teacher, for instance. I`m usually the type that is passionately opposed to violence against women, but this woman truly needs her ass kicked. At the very least, she needs to be fired. I have tremendous respect for teachers and what they do. I know I could NEVER put up with a large group of kids for hours a day. I`d go nuts. But if you can`t do it, and do it right, then you don`t need to be a teacher. You need to be fired. Quickly.
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    B-Hazard Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:40 pm
    the guy who looked like colin mochrie had a bad echo so I couldn`t get through the video.

    that is pretty screwed up, though.

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    Baconeater Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:41 pm
    arn`t special education kids usually in a seperate room though?
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:44 pm
    I`d vote him out too
    if he is THAT annoying

    Couldn`t he stop talking
    for a minute? And he does
    it just to bother and you
    can tell because when his
    mom isn`t speaking, he isn`t
    neither

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    shilo986 Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:50 pm
    it was wrong but i honestly don`t blame those kids. there`s a kid in my bio class that annoys the hell out of me and if i had the chance, i`d vote him out too
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    pseudonym28 Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    This is messed. I bet you anything that teacher`s fired right now, or I swear the sun`s coming up from the west...O_O

    I feel so bad for the kid; having to put up with an ignorant teacher AND an attention grabbing mom has to be a strain on his nerves.

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    Majin19 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    ...did she seriously compare the teacher to al-Qaeda?

    And to whoever said the mentally challenged don`t get respect, its because they`re a burden to society as a whole.

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    wowibrandon Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm
    ouch, did the kid have turrets?
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    bsm Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:54 pm
    I-A-B has such classy message boards! I saw this and the first thing I wanted to say was, MILF!
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    Morbeh Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm
    I second the vote for no, and raise you an insult to fancylads intelligence for his comment on the mother.
    I dont blame her for being upset and hurt. Her child who is mentally disabled has been attacked by a person who should not only know better, but encourage the ailing child in learning and social growth. Instead she gives him mental and emotional scars that will never go away.

    Great job education system. Way to go.

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:09 pm
    I don`t necessarily find something wrong with not having him in that class anymore if it`s becoming a problem...

    But that is about the worst way to go about it.

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    Dragonlord Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:10 pm
    Wow, that`s fücked beyond belief. I feel bad for that kid, I feel bad for that kid`s friend, and I even feel bad for the classmates. I don`t think they really understood what was going on (they`re five years old!), and I think that the teacher took advantage of that.

    I think the mother went in the wrong direction with the Al Queida thing, but the rest of what she said shocked the hell out of me.

    I think the teacher should maybe look inwards a little bit. If I called her a n***** or a c***, and got a group of peers to tell her everything that was wrong with her and then exile her for it (and there have been times where this would have been acceptable), she would probably go bat-shît crazy. And yet she feels as though it`s legit to do the same to a five-year-old for being mentally handicapped. In another time or another place, it could be her, and I really don`t think she realizes that.

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    Monsdurr Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    This is why abortion should be legal.

    inb4
    "ur mother shuld`ve abortion`d u"

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:17 pm
    WEST PALM BEACH, FL.

    Add it to the list.

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    Morbeh

    Female, 18-29, Midwest US
    Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:55:26 PM

    I second the vote for no, and raise you an insult to fancylads intelligence for his comment on the mother.

    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

    I was talking about the kid--not the mom.

    Here`s the other way of looking at it: That kid is disrupting a class of snotty kindergarteners who are already a pain in the ass to begin with. This autistic kid is taking away the attention of 33 (in the school district I live in, it`s 34 kindergarteners to 1 teacher) other kids in his classroom because his teacher has to give him that much more extra attention.

    I`m not saying voting the kid out of the classroom is right, it`s not, but I`ve taught kids his age and I`ve had to deal with a couple of kids who has what this kid has and if I could have voted them out I would have.

    To paraphrase Chris Rock: I`m not saying it`s OK, but I completely understand.

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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm
    hmmm.... his mom looks pretty good.

    (that`s the only significant thing written in this post)


    also, did you happen to know that for every 5,000 dollars they spend on special needs children, they spend 5 dollars on accelerated children? so 15 year olds taking AP Calculus *ahem* get 1/1000 the support a special needs child gets... although it`s nice to help the retards, what happened to moving society forwards?

    o yeah, and these numbers were from Time Magazine, look up the article if you want. just in case u think i`m making em up. I`d think i were making em up if i were the reader, but then again i might have made them up. this post is too long.

    o yeah and that teacher is prob another one of those teachers that suck at their job. o well. deal with it, we got plenty of their kind. although that is kinda mean, voting him out...

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    Calibur15 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm
    That`s sick, the lady better burn in hell, crazy bitch. (The teacher, not the mother.)
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:30 pm
    BSM: If you`re not being sarcastic, you`re in for a shocking discovery...
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    Anish Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:37 pm
    There`s bound to be some problems when you integrate special needs children and those without special needs. It doesn`t change the fact though, that this teacher`s behavior was disgusting. Then again, I don`t know the whole story.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:41 pm
    Wow, that is totally insane. That teacher should be fired. That kid seems cool, but his mom, what a milf!
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    thesandwich Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    first off am i the only who noticed the teacher didn`t actually say for him to leave, but instead asked where is he going to go?

    but i don`t think what she is did is right, though we didn`t hear her side of the story, cause to every fence(issue) their sides, and the one side is always going to say the others grass(actions) were wrong and inexcusable, and there is your daily dose of metaphor

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    thesandwich Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:49 pm
    also i do have a cousin who has aspergers, and i do love him to death and he is family, but i`m not going to lie, he can get annoying and his behavior can become irratic, from being calm from moment to bitting me the next, also he can`t eat with the family, something to do with sound coming from many directions causes him to freak out, that`s just one of the symptoms and not always a symptom

    that and because of this is parents shelter him completely, so you know that gamer who is a complete shut in and doesn`t have any social skills, take that and minus the gaming, once i love him to death, but it can be annoying

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    RyanF701 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 10:59 pm
    "
    ouch, did the kid have turrets?"

    No, and it`s tourettes, which is much funnier than Autism.

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    hunter4557 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 11:18 pm
    Special needs children should go to a special needs school.
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    Mufferin Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2008 at 11:25 pm
    Im goin to hell for laughing as bad as i did XD!
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    marencolleen Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 11:37 pm
    I can see how the mother could be upset, but i think this is entirely out of context... Come on if the teacher openly admitted to the mother and everyone else that she set this special Ed kid up in front of the class and made each individual kid say what they didn`t like about mommies little snowflake and then have the class vote him out and then throw him out of the class, do you really think the school would still have her there?
    i think this is what went on more like it:
    teacher tried discussing with the kids what was wrong Ed and what they thought about it, kids probably didn`t like Ed therefore had no pleasant things to say. the only consensus was that the class really didn`t want to put up with Ed...
    and you know what, i have mental illness and i can tell you that it`s not always easy for the class or the individual to be mainstreamed, theres a reason why alternative schools exist.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 11:49 pm
    special needs kids need to be in a special needs class! he should have been there in the first place!
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    Will-O-Wisp Female 18-29
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    May 28, 2008 at 11:57 pm
    That`s absolutely terrible. I know kids are cruel, but, daaaayum!
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    anglefan Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:03 am
    I cant believe a black woman would do something like that...This is why I think we overpay teachers. Theyre about as smart as the students. Well atleast public school teachers.
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    v10monster Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:48 am
    "other groups dont think wat their doing is wrong...al-queda for instance" rofl
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    Slyguy056 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:05 am
    fancylad:
    I`m not saying voting the kid out of the classroom is right, it`s not, but I`ve taught kids his age and I`ve had to deal with a couple of kids who has what this kid has and if I could have voted them out I would have.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Holy crap, fancylad was a teacher?! for kindergartners?!?!?! GASP

  51. Profile photo of Hydrolysate
    Hydrolysate Male 70 & Over
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:15 am
    I`m not exactly a nice pleasant person or anything...Yeah there`s people I hate and all that...but THIS is just so f*cked up I can`t believe it.

    I want to shoot that (extremely racist word) b*tch in the face like NOW.

    Fancylad making fun of the mom = FAIL. You may have "dealt" with children with Asperger`s but agreeing with voting him out of the classroom is NOT cool. There are other more mature people in the school that deal with these things, not the brainless 5 and 6 year olds that were prompted by the teacher to vote him out.
    That`s like putting preschoolers on congressional duties with rich people bribing them. It just doesn`t work.

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    PierrotLeFou Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:45 am
    She lost me at al-Qaeda.
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    Mouichi Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:56 am
    I feel like the teacher was wrong, only in that she went about it in a very bad way. She should have talked with the mother and/or school district about starting or enrolling the kid in a special needs program. It may have been for a selfish reason, but at least it would be something progressive.
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    Apple_18 Female 18-29
    475 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 2:30 am
    LETS VOTE THE TEACHER OUT!

    I saw this on tv the other morning...ugh! And did anyone see the ked whos parrents put a tape recorder on him and found the teacher was harassing him?? I Friken HATE the public schooling systems! Theyre so Fkced! No Child Left Behind My ASS! >=(

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    ze_pilot Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 3:18 am
    Did she just compare that teacher to Al Qaeda?
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    no_need Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 3:27 am
    @ everyone saying it`s hard to cope with disabled kids in classrooms:

    Did anyone else notice that the mother said "we`re in the *process* of being diagnosed with Asbergers"? Because a lot of kids don`t really show disabilities like this until they`re about this age, so I think it`s possible that the child hadn`t been diagnosed when they enrolled him at that school, and they maybe just thought he had Attention Deficit Disorder or something, which can be coped with in mainstream schools... It could be that the mother would have moved him to another school anyway once his diagnosis was finalised.

    That said, I think that the teacher was utterly out of line... if you have a problematic child in your class, you go to the headteacher and tell them about it, ask what you should do, and usually get in touch with the parent(s) as well. If she didn`t do that, then she deserves to lose her job, and I have no sympathy for her whatsoever.

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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2008 at 4:28 am
    caboose117: In the case of autists/Aspergers kids, the funds spent to "help the retards" may just amount to the same thing as funds spent on the gifted. Many autists are just as smart or smarter than Joe Average, they just lack the ability to understand "normal" social interactions.

    As for the video, it`s all a normalist conspiracy. You get kicked from the team if you`re too talented, you get voted out of school if you`re annoying. Everything deviating from the norm is to be treated with mild suspicion and/or hostility.

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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 4:48 am
    did the mom describe the kid`s type of Autism as `ass burgers`?
  59. Profile photo of MBlazel
    MBlazel Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:02 am
    This is ridiculous, the teacher should lay off the cake.
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    MBlazel Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:03 am
    "I want to shoot that (extremely racist word) b*tch in the face like NOW."

    So do i.

  61. Profile photo of blackmind
    blackmind Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:27 am
    I have asperger`s too, but I`m not as bad as him.
    This is absolutely insane.
    Why did she even do that?
    I can`t even express how much I want to kill that teacher >-(
  62. Profile photo of realblender
    realblender Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:32 am
    did anyone call for a recount..?
  63. Profile photo of PopeBenedict
    PopeBenedict Male 70 & Over
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:33 am
    did anyone call for a recount..?

    HAHA!!! It did happened in Florida...

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    ValeX Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:52 am
    First off, the child doesn`t seem autistic at all, it seems more like hyperactivity. The mother is showing, at least in this clip, no discipline to him for his actions.

    I`d be interested in knowing if this child has true `special needs`. My guess is ADHD, in which case, he needs to take medication and his mother needs to discipline him instead of ignoring him.

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    PopeBenedict Male 70 & Over
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    May 29, 2008 at 6:01 am
    Yeah for ValeX!!!! You get to skip graduate school and go right to hanging your doctorate on the wall.
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    imSUPERduper Female 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 6:45 am
    I emailed that bitch teacher. And told her that she is a bitch.
  67. Profile photo of Mariam67
    Mariam67 Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 6:47 am
    What the hell is wrong with people?
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    X-Potatoe Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 7:16 am
    did anyone listen to that love line where the girl kept saying ASS-burgers instead of asbergers? soon as this chick said it i laughed an closed the video =)
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:05 am
    is that ever ipposoible to VOTE kindergarteners
    out of the school?? )-| and so what if he got autistic???.....
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    simplename9 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:29 am
    I`m sensing some major bullpooting on the Moms part. Either that or the school hired some horrible horrible teachers.
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    ghostofme Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:50 am
    Yes, it is pretty messed up...actually, if it happened exactly the way they are reporting it, then it`s incredibly messed up.

    But there is something more pressing here to discuss...and that is how effing hot that Mom is! Jenny McCarthy lookalike anyone?

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    kaechan Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:59 am
    OMG...The poor little guy! Damn teacher needs to shot.
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:10 am
    wow im not as mad at the video as some of the comments in this forum, he had autism and something wrong with him, but he is just like you and me, my cousin has autism but she is one of the nicest people i kno and some of these comments are very wrong
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    LUVPEACE90 Female 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:29 am
    that is really effed up poor kid dumb bitch teacher need to be shot
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    maddyn99 Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:40 am
    This is why retards and other "special needs" students dont belong in classes with normal kids. They are disruptive to the learning process. The tolerance and inclusiveness to all things ends up lowering all expectations to the lowest common denominator. The teacher should be commended for standing up for the rest of her students instead of coddling one student that is a constant irritation and trouble maker.
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    marvelking4 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:42 am
    hehe...i think this is kinda funny
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    J-sic Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:58 am
    God I hate that word "Special" how condescending, its RETARD. I hate retards, they shouldn`t be kept alive, or at least reproduce, F-U-C-K-S up our evolution.B-|
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    wtfpeoplewtf Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:04 am
    The teacher number is on the internet... I feel like calling her and telling her off...
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    SubElixer Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:11 am
    J-sic, you fail at life
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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:23 am
    Hydrolysate
    Male, 13-17, Eastern US
    288 Posts
    Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:15:48 AM
    I`m not exactly a nice pleasant person or anything...Yeah there`s people I hate and all that...but THIS is just so f*cked up I can`t believe it.

    I want to shoot that (extremely racist word) b*tch in the face like NOW.

    Fancylad making fun of the mom = FAIL. You may have "dealt" with children with Asperger`s but agreeing with voting him out of the classroom is NOT cool. There are other more mature people in the school that deal with these things, not the brainless 5 and 6 year olds that were prompted by the teacher to vote him out.
    That`s like putting preschoolers on congressional duties with rich people bribing them. It just doesn`t work.

    + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

    Wrong again, genius. I wasn`t making fun of the mom. I want to bone the mom, I want to vote out the kid. How many times does it have to be said.

    And no, I`ve never been a teacher.

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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:32 am
    I think he should have been voted out, too. He obviously needs to be in Special Ed, not a regular classroom. All you people crying a river for Alex ought to consider all the other students in that classroom who are forced to put up with that brat day after day.
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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:44 am
    of course it`s Florida again! We need a separate link on this site just for Florida.
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    JoeBordel Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 10:51 am
    M-M-M-MILF!!!
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    Jugganaut Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:16 am
    "...because he eats crayons or..."

    Hah. What?

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    Lauraly Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:51 am
    I should be shocked by most of the comments on here.. but frankly I`m getting pretty used to the ridiculous amount of ignorance on this site.

    In many cases it is important for special needs children to be included in classrooms with "normal" children so they can learn better social techniques. Even if you think that Alex should have been put into a separate classroom with other special needs children, don`t you think that the teacher standing him up in front of the class to be told by nearly everyone that he is basically a loser and no one likes him was horribly wrong? I mean Christ, have none of you ever been picked on in your life? Was it all gumdrops and happiness and rainbows? Learn to have some empathy.

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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:57 am
    Someone had a rough childhood ahem ^^

    yeah basically they do need to be separated
    i had a special ed kid in my class in 5th grade it was a nuisance if anything he didn`t even learn the same things as us and he had his own teacher teaching him how to count ducks in the back of the classroom if anything it was distracting because he would randomly make loud noises

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    kenric08 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:57 am
    *sigh*

    The comments I have seen have little or no knowledge of with Aspurgers is. My little brother has it, and Aspurgers kids are known to usually be highly intelligent, they just lack social skills. So retarded? I think not, considering my little brother scored a 1100 on the SAT and he is in 6th grade. They take some different classes to help with their social skills and motor skills, but they definitely do not need a "special ed" class to help learn. It is a form of autism, not mental retardation. The fact is that Aspurgers kids have a hard time understanding what people mean, whether or not they are joking or being serious, or reading peoples expressions. The kid probably has no idea the severity of what the teacher even did. You can`t vote a kid out, no matter what the reason. That is what the head faculty have to decide in CLOSED DOORS, not for 6 year olds to decide in front of the child.

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    Kalimdon Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:58 am
    That mom is lying about something. Am I the only one who elt that she seemed really fake on camera?
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:59 am
    "Society as a whole has too little respect for the mentally challenged."

    So if someone is dumber than you, a little strange or annoying, it`s okay to make fun of them, but if they`re so messed up you can slap them with a sticker full of unpronounceable jargon, then suddenly they`re untouchable and should be respected?

    Come on.

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    basketkase Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:01 pm
    caboose117: In the case of autists/Aspergers kids, the funds spent to "help the retards" may just amount to the same thing as funds spent on the gifted. Many autists are just as smart or smarter than Joe Average, they just lack the ability to understand "normal" social interactions.

    Caboose in New Jersey at least the amount of money spent on a special needs kids when i was in elementary school was about $1000 dollars a day for EACH student opposed to the Gifted who received about 75 cents a day for kids who could better the world

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    "I mean Christ, have none of you ever been picked on in your life? Was it all gumdrops and happiness and rainbows?"

    You say that they must be integrated with students to learn social skills, then reverse 180 and say they need to be protected from their fellow classmates. Facts of life: People pick on anyone who`s different. Trying to shield them from that isn`t going to help when they`re finally released into the world.

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    kenric08 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:06 pm
    By the way... people who show asperger characteristics or who are actually known to have aspergers.

    Albert Einstein.
    Isaac Newton.
    Bill Gates.
    Henry Ford.
    Hans Asperger.

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:11 pm
    "caboose117: In the case of autists/Aspergers kids, the funds spent to "help the retards" may just amount to the same thing as funds spent on the gifted. Many autists are just as smart or smarter than Joe Average, they just lack the ability to understand "normal" social interactions."

    Sure, they might. But whereas a gifted child is likely to be better than his fellow students in some way that will further his career, the autistic (for example) children are more likely to be unable to hold a job. So in the end, it`s a matter of risk vs reward, and they`re paying pennies for the promising but fortunes on the near-useless.

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    White_Wolfos Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:22 pm
    Teacher`s a bitch.
    Mom seemed like a bitch.
    Feel sorry for the kid stuck between those two and autism.
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:31 pm
    what a controversial delimma
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    greengiant Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    I feel sorry for the kid but nobody should treat him specially and NOBODY should treat him like that teacher did. He would be better off if everyone treated him normally, that`s the best way to learn social skills.
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    NumbuhZero Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:34 pm
    I can`t blame the kids for it.
    The mentally disabled need to be kept in a separate room, so as not to drool on others crayons and such.
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    fghj Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    sickening
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    Bekll Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:04 pm
    "also i do have a cousin who has aspergers, and i do love him to death and he is family, but i`m not going to lie, he can get annoying and his behavior can become irratic, from being calm from moment to bitting me the next, also he can`t eat with the family, something to do with sound coming from many directions causes him to freak out, that`s just one of the symptoms and not always a symptom that and because of this is parents shelter him completely, so you know that gamer who is a complete shut in and doesn`t have any social skills, take that and minus the gaming, once i love him to death, but it can be annoying"

    Asperger`s ranges from person to person.
    "something to do with sound coming from many directions causes him to freak out"
    This is because they`re sensitive to sound - they can`t concentrate on one thing when there are too many sounds coming from different directions.

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    dougsimpson Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:10 pm
    I have had some experience with Asperger`s... He appears to be further up the AQ scale than Asperger`s.

    Oh, the teacher should be taken out and shot.

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    Bekll Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    So if the tv is on, the baby is screaming, there`s a truck outside and music is playing and you`re the wife of an Asperger`s husband and you`re telling him about dinner... it may seem like he`s listening - but he`s not. He`ll completely forget about what you said. That`s just one example. And Asperger`s people tend to be VERY intelligent; they`re not retarded, they just have mild autism. My boyfriend has Asperger`s and he had a very tough childhood because of it. I feel like I`m the only one who knows him.

    Even now, when he`s in his mid-20s, people misunderstand the littlest things he does and they turn on him - becoming enemies and spreading lies about him like sexual assault -- while he`s dating me.. for eight months even! It`s ridiculous how people treat people who are different. It really is.

    This little Alex boy just may very well have it too - and what this teacher disgustingly did is just the beginning of a long, hard road for him of disrespect and misunderstandings.

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    Bekll Female 18-29
    1984 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    "I`d be interested in knowing if this child has true `special needs`. My guess is ADHD, in which case, he needs to take medication and his mother needs to discipline him instead of ignoring him."

    Oh please... like 9 out of 10 kids diagnosed with ADD and/or ADHD don`t have it. And medication -- at his age? In todays` world kids as young as two are taking very strong medication most likely when they have no problem at all - they`re just acting like kids! In my Abnormal Psychology class, when this was discussed, one of the "symptoms" to look for was childishness. O_o Hello?! They`re kids!

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    Trexa Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:17 pm
    Why the hell would the teacher make the other children tell them what they don`t like about the boy? Every child deserves to be taught with equality and stuff. We`d have to hear the teacher`s side of the story, as well. But still... that was sick and wrong of her.
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    Noodlez Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 1:52 pm
    omg, that teacher is a bitch! my brother has autism.
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    CZX11 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 2:03 pm
    wow that teacher is a bitch and needs to burn in hell
  106. Profile photo of CZX11
    CZX11 Male 13-17
    178 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    that teacher is such a bitch she needs to burn in hell
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    pomunium Female 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    as horrible as the teacher sounds, i think there must be details left out of the mom`s recap of what happened. I can understand if the teacher got angry with a kid who disrupts class and maybe might be a little violent. maybe she thought that some input from his peers would encourage him to behave well. the voting thing is messed up, but sounds to far fetched. no ones that evil, especially not if they work with toddlers
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    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    i say shenanigans
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    LemonTarte Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    That teacher did a sick thing. You don`t do that to children regardless of whether they have special needs or not.

    I sympathised with the mother until:
    "A lot of people think what they`re doing is right, like, Al-Qaueda."

    Then it just went downhill.

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    Bekll, ADHD is actually underdiagnosed; it`s typically misdiagnosed in the kids who "have it" and many kids are missed because they`re primarily inattentive and not hyperactive.

    Also, Asperger`s is NOT mild autism; it`s completely seperate and usually involves a lack of understanding of social cues. Yes, people with Asperger`s can be smart like anyone else, but it`s not a result of Asperger`s either.

    Before going and stating you know all this stuff from a class you took, make sure you are learning the information correctly.

    And if you want to question my credentials, I have a master`s degree in psychology and am a practicing therapist working with children.

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    marencolleen Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 4:11 pm
    guess momma shouldn`t have let some dude hop in her pants in the first place...
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    harrydick Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 4:58 pm
    Uhh, she brought up Al-Qaeda, wtf? I`d hit that.(The mom)
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    nirvana_kid Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:49 pm
    "Plenty of people who think what they are doing isn`t wrong, like Al Queda"

    "woah, hold on, let`s not go there!"

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    nirvana_kid Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 5:50 pm
    I`m sorry i can`t spell btw.
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    Bekll Female 18-29
    1984 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    "Bekll, ADHD is actually underdiagnosed; it`s typically misdiagnosed in the kids who "have it" and many kids are missed because they`re primarily inattentive and not hyperactive."
    ADHD is overdiagnosed.
    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9909/01/adhd.o...

    "A recent study says attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, may be overdiagnosed, and the drug used to treat the condition may be overprescribed."

    "Also, Asperger`s is NOT mild autism..."
    Yes it is. Asperger`s is a mild autism spectrum disorder.

    "Before going and stating you know all this stuff from a class you took, make sure you are learning the information correctly."
    I wasn`t citing the accuracy of anything from a class. Simply providing an example of how ADD/ADHD`s symptoms are looked for in children.

    I believe you should take your own advice.

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    angelbrat Female 18-29
    178 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    I seriously think it is kindergarten teachers as a whole. I had a horrible kindergarten teacher who just about did the same thing to me, And I -know- I didn`t do anything wrong or disrupt the class, I was so quiet half the kids didn`t even know who I was. My neices both have gone through something where the teacher singles them out, and they -were- in special needs classes.

    Seriously though, this teacher needs to be fired and her license be taken away ASAP.

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    Bekll:

    Autism "spectrum"- if Aspergers were mild autism, then on a kid`s diagnosis, the word Aspergers would not exist- it would be classified as "mild autism."
    They are not the same thing, hence why there are different diagnostic criteria and classification in the DSM-IV.

    I love how you just whip out an article from CNN to make your case. CNN is not a psychological journal for one, and second of all, the quotes you use say "may" be overdiagnosed and the medication "may" be overprescribed.

    As for medication being overprescribed, that`s because people run to the PCP`s saying "my kid can`t pay attention in school" and the doctor gives them an ADHD medication. There`s no trip to a psychiatrist to make sure the kid actually has ADHD or needs medication... hence my point on misdiagnosed children.

    As for your snide comment, I don`t need to take my own advice because I actually know what I`m talking about; I don`t need CNN to pad my

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    angelbrat Female 18-29
    178 posts
    May 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm
    Also, to the comment about more money being spent on the slower kids, Uh, yeah. Because the super smart gifted kids don`t really need much extra help. Where some one in special ed has to work twice as hard to get a C, barely get noticed at school, and have to deal with jerks all day. the gifted kids barely have to do anything, get special attention and awards up the butt (and every award has a freaking assembly, where we had to sit through and pretend we gave a crap, when all we really wanted to do was go back to class and..y`know..learn)Along with teachers who treated you like crap.

    *Ahems* yes, I had a really..really bad time in school.

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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm
    point.

    Oh, and another thing, because you just didn`t even bother to open up the DSM-IV for yourself and check the diagnostic criteria, "childishness" is not listed. Go figure.

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    PsychoSis11 Female 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 7:59 pm
    Astridhaze...I don`t want to be mean or rude but I`m going to have to disagree with you. Aspergers is more than just a social thing. I have it and there are much more things I have to deal with. For example I have sensory and anxiety issues... I don`t know if it`s on the spectrum or not (I`ve heard from MANY different people it is), but it does have several Autism like symptoms...
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    PsychoSis11 Female 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm
    And if there are any typos or stupid errors, I`m sorry. Don`t pick me apart for them...
  122. Profile photo of BrotherBob
    BrotherBob Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 8:16 pm
    To the two kids who voted to keep Alex in the classroom:

    GOOD JOB, GUYS, I`m very, very proud of you! The world needs more people like you two in it.

    If I were the parent of one of those two, I`d strut around all day with pride and shower my boy with gifts and take him to Chuck E. Cheese for supper for being so awesome!

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    teiso Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2008 at 9:34 pm
    ^ Agreed. And if I was a parent of one of the kids who voted, whether they voted for or against, I`d be angry at the teacher for teaching my kid the value that a person has less rights than their peers just because they have a disability or hard to get along with.
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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:24 pm
    Asperger`s sucks. Kids who have it are f cking annoying in the classroom too.

    I have an Asperger`s kid in two of my classes in high school this semester. He`s not stupid, but the main downside of the disorder is he doesn`t understand diddlesh t about... basically, social interaction.

    no one really likes him.. i`m nice to him but i`ve never really had a conversation longer than a minute with him, and it gets pathetic sometimes, too... he gets lost sometimes when we`re doing Physical Education, and in Biology he`s always interrupting class.

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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2008 at 11:27 pm
    everyone gives him sympathy, and he`s troublesome, but it`s not like anyone would ever vote him out of the classroom.

    that teacher needs to be fired.

    kindergartners are way more honest than grown-ups though.

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    Lauraly Female 18-29
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    May 30, 2008 at 9:06 am
    catbarf: You say that they must be integrated with students to learn social skills, then reverse 180 and say they need to be protected from their fellow classmates. Facts of life: People pick on anyone who`s different. Trying to shield them from that isn`t going to help when they`re finally released into the world.
    ---
    When in the hell did I say that they needed to be protected? I said that the people posting here should have a little empathy. Unless you all lived a perfect happy childhood then you should have some idea as to what it must be like to be stood up in front of everyone and told that you`re worthless. Failing actually having been picked on you should at least learn to empathize. Also, it is one thing to be teased by your peers and something else entirely to be called out by an authority figure who`s job it is to help children resolve fights and discourage bullying, not encourage it.
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    January16 Female 13-17
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    May 30, 2008 at 10:37 am
    That a bunch of BS. I hate evil people. The kid didn`t deserve that at all. I can`t believe the teacher did that. What a complete douche B****. I`m a senior in high school now, and we have tons of ignorant a** kids in the class, but their a**es don`t get voted out. WTF os wrong with people now and days?
  128. Profile photo of tjanator
    tjanator Male 13-17
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    May 30, 2008 at 9:22 pm
    okay, so that kid really couldn`t stop talking, yes. but NO KINDERGARTENER CAN. Come on. "Does your FIVE YEAR OLD have problems staying still? He may be stupid" no. And that mom didnt even seem sad. more like.. glad?
  129. Profile photo of Woot45
    Woot45 Female 13-17
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    May 30, 2008 at 9:30 pm
    I remember kindergarten very clearly, I was definitely past the stage where I sat in my moms lap and went `waaahshghghh baaaaah ooh look purty thing I`ll eat it`. Normal kindgergarteners are obnoxious and stupid enough, this kid is that and beyond as well as having mental problems.

    There is no greater motivator for children than peer pressure, and having the entire class telling him to sit the hell down and stop being a moron just might help.

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    Collussus_ Male 18-29
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    June 1, 2008 at 8:52 am
    I just had to register to reply to everyones posts.

    I have lived my life among normal children, i have PDD-NOS, a disorder close to Asperger, just less heavy. I`ve been on a school with "same" children and it just made me feel worse about myself. In a class Normal children are children you look up to, and try to be like them. That`s better than any "special needs" class.

    And in reply to woot45. Every person with Autistic disorders will not work in that way. If you`d tell me to stop being a moron i`d either ignore you, or kick you to death. That`s how these disorders work. Asperger is even worse, they live in their own world. Making friends is bloody hard. You calling a kid with asperger a moron is such bull. You should get your head to the fact that there`s not only normal people on this world. There`s also the people who need extra help or have NO idea that they do anything wrong, even when they`re told that they do something wrong they wont know. I`m done wi

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    iamboredtooo Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2008 at 2:09 am
    it turns out the kid was NOT special needs in any way. he has neither aspergers nor adhd. he is just a naughty disruptive child having a negative effect on the ability of his peers to learn. his teacher had his peers explain to him what the effect of his bad behaviour was before voting to exclude him from the class for the day.

    so it sounds like his attention grabbing mom tries to convince her naughty child that he has special needs to avoid her own responsibility for his bad behaviour - the result? one screwed up kid who according to his mom lays in bed saying "i`m not special, i`m not special" trying to come to terms with his mother`s abuse towards him in trying to treat him as though he is.

    the child is reported to have further lied about his teacher`s actions, saying she physically abused him - something which the rest of the class have denied.

    nasty mom makes nasty screwed up kid. hopefully more people in his life will tell him his behaviour is unacceptable.

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    Bridget49 Female 13-17
    231 posts
    June 2, 2008 at 4:57 pm
    Okay, first of all, yes, kids with disabilities are disruptive, but does that mean they have to be hauled to a special school and treated as if they had a contagious disease?!
    God, people, LISTEN TO YOURSELVES. Talking about a KINDERGARTENER like that!

    And also, that little boy couldn`t have been put into a special class because he had just been diagnosed. Up until then, they were probably convinced that he had ADD, or ADHD.

    Anyways, that teacher needs to be FIRED. As soon as possible!
    Alienating a little boy like that!
    Can you imagine being stood up in front of your classmates and being told that you are annoying or dumb?
    I can hardly imagine how bad this boy must feel after this whole ordeal.

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    hitoshi92 Male 13-17
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    June 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm
    she just compare a kindergarten teacher to al queida, am i the only one who caught that?
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    BellaEdward Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2009 at 7:19 am
    this is for iamboredtoo: where`d you find i it wasnt true?

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