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  1. Profile photo of eugenius
    eugenius Male 30-39
    1620 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
    Link: From Russia With Hate - Investigation of a movement in Russia where neo-Nazi groups brutally attack immigrants and post violent videos online.
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    panicxparado Female 13-17
    73 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
    That`s terrible. People are sick.
  3. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 11:33 am
    What the hell did I just watch. WOW! I can`t believe this is happening.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    Oh man. The immigrants are going to start carrying guns and shooting people dead. This is going to get a whole lot worse really really fast.
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    natakalt Female 18-29
    1697 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    How strange that neo-Nazi feel hate, really sometimes I wonder if they ever love/like something or someone.

    Why are there still nazis in 2008?

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 1:44 pm
    I`m actually feeling like throwing up...I`m not exaggerating here. I actually PHYSICALLY want to vomit.
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    NOFX14 Male 18-29
    1141 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
    Nazi`s make me sick. Talk about brainwashed times 1,000.
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    unsub Female 18-29
    925 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    This is so f.cking sick. I am kinda glad I don`t live in Russia ... but unfortunately it`s also a big problem in other countries. When will people learn from history???
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    thestringy Male 18-29
    483 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    you would have thought that the russians of all people would have realised that this is not the way to go. do they not realise the sacrifice that thier country gave to stop fascism?

    these people are sick and they should find every single one of them and have them shot.

  10. Profile photo of Hydrolysate
    Hydrolysate Male 70 & Over
    340 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    Natakalt, we are everywhere. Whether or not you like it, we will live on.
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    jesusgod0 Male 13-17
    68 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
    I can`t believe that there are people in the world like that. People that can`t look at another human being and treat him/her as an equal. It is a terrible world that we live in.
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    i-am-horny Male 13-17
    1053 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:10 pm
    Attacks on immigretrs are wrong, attacks on anyone is wrong. I dont believe illegal immigrants deserve to be in the country, but i do believe people who came legaly should be able to live freely, nazi`s are just like any other rogue group, this is terrible andshould not be.
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    i-am-horny Male 13-17
    1053 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    Although russia has neaver been a nice place, communists where control freaks, nazi`s where also control freaks, communism and captlism both SUCK and both dont work...
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    Angel25 Female 18-29
    298 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    Horrifying... OMG is that what the world is coming to?
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    Hydrolysate, I do hope you are kidding...
  16. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    Hydrolysate, it`s not "Whether or not you like it" It`s that we are surprised this ignorance continues with the knowledge we should have today.
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    i-am-horny Male 13-17
    1053 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    "
    Hydrolysate, I do hope you are kidding..."
    Its his choice what he follow`s if he wishes to follow a certain, religion, cult gand thats entirly up to him so you shouldent try and interfear. although i still think its kinda wrong.
  18. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    I-Am: I agree that it is his choice, but I would rather he look at the broad spectrum of things as well. Same thing goes for those people on the streets with their hate signs screaming god hates everyone and still trying to pose as religious.
  19. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    no need to explain Nidonemo, or at least you shouldn`t have to
  20. Profile photo of domisgood
    domisgood Male 18-29
    4868 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    fudgein sick bastards. those ruski drats need their bollocks chopped off and stuck on thir heads. genocidal priks. they need to sort their lives out. i cant belive some members of the government support this, then again, BNP
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    domisgood Male 18-29
    4868 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
    *BNP=Britsih Nationalist Party
    want to rid UK of immigrants
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    krembill Male 18-29
    1094 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    I got beat up by these guys a few months back(not in Russia though) i gotta tell you, it`s not pretty...simple creatures...
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    sewermonkey Male 30-39
    281 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm
    There has always been hate and always will be. I can see this happening here in the U.S. easily. With the loss of jobs and rise in immigration natural born citizens feel slighted and want what they feel is theirs. The immigrants are an easier target than the large corporations that want to save a buck on cheap labor. Basicly the situation will hurt many working class people while helping the wealthy. The sad thing is everyone just wants to survive and prosper, but the odds are against it.
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
    3302 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm
    drat! Why isn`t the russian government doing anything about this?

    Russia sure as hell is the proverbial wildcard of our world...

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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    Many people here seem to be suffering from a common misconception of neo-nazis. No, they are not evil, they do have feelings, and they are not ignorant. I doubt any of you have had a serious, calm conversation with one to discuss your different viewpoints on government and racial differences.
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    unsub Female 18-29
    925 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    @genericuser: Do you actually think you could talk to those bastards? Seriously, did you ever try it???

  27. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:09 pm
    Please enlighten me on this common misconception you speak of and the Definition of ignorance so I know what to use when you defend your statement.
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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:09 pm
    Yes, I have. Not in person (there are no neo-nazis where I live), but I have held conversations with users of stormfront, as well as neo-nazis I met elsewhere. And I can tell you honestly that none of them have ever been the least bit mean to me, because I have not been disrespectful to them.
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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm
    That was @ unsub, by the way.
    Main Entry: ig·no·rance
    Pronunciation: \ˈig-n(ə-)rən(t)s\
    Function: noun
    Date: 13th century
    : the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness
  30. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:11 pm
    Are you white genericuser?
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    dljudo92 Male 18-29
    485 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    Exemplary reason why i hate arrogant Russian bastards
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    Zeckal Male 18-29
    118 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm
    ah yes, the mixing pot of Euro and Asian cultures... reminds me of home (tears)

    jokes aside

    we will always fight, wars make the world spin, `m not kidding with this one, with out war most economy would crash and anything left would be devastated.

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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm
    Yes, I am, but you do not necessarily have to divulge your race to have a conversation with someone.
    And they do not necessarily hate people of different races, they hate people of different races who live in countries that they consider to be belonging to them.
  34. Profile photo of unsub
    unsub Female 18-29
    925 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    @genericuser: It`s one thing to talk online to neo-nazis but I can assure you it`s very different when it`s in real life.
    I`ve had a very scary experience once at a train station in east germany, there was a group of at least 10 neo-nazis on the platform (plus a lot more nearby) and I was in a group of 6 people (all obviously leftist/antifascist). I was actually glad there were some cops around (there was a demonstration in a nearby city) otherwise things would have turned ugly.
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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    @ unsub - but nothing did happen, did it?
  36. Profile photo of unsub
    unsub Female 18-29
    925 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm
    @genericuser: no, nothing happened - because there were cops. but i do know people who have been beaten up by neo-nazis because of the way they looked (leftist or foreigners)
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    genericuser Female 18-29
    317 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm
    @unsub - I am not saying that neo-nazis don`t beat people up, or that they are justified in doing so, I am just trying to say that they are not the ignorant bastards everyone imagines them to be. Well, most of them aren`t, but there are ignorant bastards in every belief system.
    And I am glad that nothing happened to you, but who knows what would have happened if the cops had not been there?
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    kenny_f Male 13-17
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    May 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
    its like they dont realize that they fight like pussies with knives and a big group of friends.
    and yes, most racist skinheads are ignorant, because there ideals are incredibly wrong.
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    Razamire Female 18-29
    661 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    I got hit with a brick ffs when I was 3 by a neo-nazi.Now anyone,try to convince me that they`re not ignorant and cowards and so stupid,it`s become powerful???huh
  40. Profile photo of Aqausixio
    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:31 pm
    Definition of ignorance; uneducated in general; lacking knowledge or sophistication; "an ignorant man"; "an unlearned group ...
    I don`t think you will find many intellectuals running around bashing people on the street for the sake of an intangible goal.
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    Razamire Female 18-29
    661 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    as far as talking to anyone that promotes hate online,of course it would seem easier.It`s the internet.And let`s say a colored immagrants,said he was white and told them he understands,the noeonazi?He Hates people,he doesn`t even know,never sat with,never laughed with,never share any good moment with??
    Ignorant=lack of knowlegde..
  42. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:49 pm
    Hah, saw it on Digg, had to know it`d show up here.

    So many posts about ignorance, it`s not even funny. How ironic is you trying to point out ignorance in people about whose lives and motivations you know nothing about. The Russian people got ruined by capitalism. The few rich ones at the top keep getting richer while everyone else sinks into poverty. Unlike in the U.S. there`s no real developed welfare system (for better and for worse).
    Then the immigrants from even poorer countries come and undercut the Russians` for the already low-paying jobs. The nationalist propaganda actually uses the U.S. model to instill fear in people for what would happen if this is allowed to continue. The difference is, in Russia, unlike the U.S., people are willing to do the crappy jobs too (you know, the ones illegal immigrants take?).

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    Meh110 Male 13-17
    292 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    Heh cute. :-P
  44. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 4:56 pm
    Note that they`re not doing what they do out of pure hatred for all non-white, non-slavic, or non-Russian. They do it to scare off potential immigrants, to show them they`re not welcome in Russia to steal their jobs (kinda like minute men, eh?).

    Now feel free to scroll up for the many people trying to define ignorance ignorance. These people are not ignorant. Actually, Russian education (at LEAST up to graduate level) is better. Notice that they`re well spoken, and communicate complex ideas clearly. That`s more than can be said about the racist hillbillies I`ve met in the U.S.

    All this having been said, I`m half Jewish and actually moved to the U.S. from Russia to escape potential persecution. I do not support how they`ve chosen to accomplish what they see as their goal, but I do understand them. A childhood friend of mine became a skinhead (age 15 at the time).

  45. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
    I`ll live it up to you to decide what to think about all this, but hopefully at least now you have more understanding of what prompted their behavior. Frustration can only build so much in people until it finds an outlet.

    There`s the right/wrong line of thinking, and also appropriate/inappropriate. Either of those are very subjective, so if your brainpower allows it, imagine yourself in their place for a bit. Needless to say, they fell under influence of persons who push Nazi ideology onto them and young people are impressionable (kind of reminds me of all the environment speeches on campus).

    Just remember, one country`s "terrorist" is another country`s "freedom fighter."

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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:14 pm
    this is what happens when you mix cultures.
    its a BAD idea to take in many immigrants at one time.
    in my country, the immigrants hitt us
  47. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:22 pm
    err 3rd post live=leave. Happens when I type too much.

    Also, I re-watched the video, and some of the translation is inaccurate.

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    n0n Male 18-29
    342 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:25 pm
    they brutally attack lone, innocent people in packs just because they think they`re superior - nah, not ignorant at all.
  49. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:33 pm
    n0n just go kill yourself. Please. You`re more ignorant than they are by far. You don`t even know what ignorant is. I`ll also assume that you`re a complete wuss as you don`t grasp the basics of intimidation. Then again, you think they`re proving their supremacy while the video tells you several times they do it to deter immigration.

    As much as I can`t agree with what they do, I loathe you even more.

  50. Profile photo of Fuchsbrauner
    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:45 pm
    I really can`t respect anyone who denies the Holocaust, especially these "educated," rational "freedom fighters." Not a bad way to judge people. Holocaust denier=delusional.
    And am I the only one who doesn`t understand why an American would go to school in Russia?
  51. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
    I didn`t see anything about Holocaust in that video, nor have I heard anything like that in person while I lived there and spoke to several of them.

    As for an American going to Russia to study: have you looked into what it costs here to become a plastic surgeon and how competitive the programs are? I`d bet it`s at least 5 times cheaper there, if not 10. Consider this: in Russia, you get a government stipend and free dorms to study at a University, here you pay for classes and living arrangements. But U.S. is #1, right?..

  52. Profile photo of FloridaSnow
    FloridaSnow Male 18-29
    416 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    Go watch the video again
  53. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 6:28 pm
    Hmm, I`ve seen it twice. You go watch it again and then give me the time where they takl about holocaust.
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    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 6:35 pm
    Go watch it again. At the rally, some guy was showing off a book titled "The Holocaust Myth." Don`t get smart with me.
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    FloridaSnow Male 18-29
    416 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm
    Irony.
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    Mafibofweeb9 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 7:08 pm
    "Natakalt, we are everywhere. Whether or not you like it, we will live on."

    Hydroslate go get buttdrated by one of your neo Nazi freaks.

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    Mafibofweeb9 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm
    genericuser I understand the views of the neo Nazis and I still disagree with them. Did you see the videos? How could anyone do something so horrible. Neo Nazis may be human but the people they are harming are also human.
  58. Profile photo of Fuchsbrauner
    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    I think Genericuser has been watching too much "Oz." Which, incidentally, is why I refuse to watch "Juno."
  59. Profile photo of TeHrussian
    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    Again, I don`t see anyone denying Holocaust in there. I see a bearded guy holding up pamphlets, and we all know that images like that are never out of context. I mean really, radical thinkers never come to other radical group`s rallies to push their own agenda?

    It`s not something skinheads deny and I know that Russia as a country does not deny it. If anything, a lot of them would just say that Holocaust was justified. If you want an example of denying the Holocaust, there`s a little country called Iran.

  60. Profile photo of Fuchsbrauner
    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm
    Did I ever imply that all of Russia is in denial? Way to jump to the wrong conclusion.
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    juicygirl20 Female 18-29
    24 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm
    sickening. completely sickening. where the hell is the gov`t why arent they taking action against this?
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 9:39 pm
    To whoever said "we are everywhere...we will live on," I have only this to say.
    Where you instigate hatred, WE will always be there to oppose it, and we will oppose you until the stars grow cold.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 9:42 pm
    nonviolently of course...
    Where is Maddog when you need him?
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    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 10:01 pm
    Um...I ate him. Sorrz.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
    Sorrz? What does that mean? {just curious}
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 10:14 pm
    OHHH I get it now, slow moment!
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    pariahnola Male 18-29
    649 posts
    May 12, 2008 at 10:44 pm
    not working i can`t see a damn thing
  68. Profile photo of scott-13
    scott-13 Male 13-17
    963 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 12:21 am
    those sick drats.

    the russian goverment acutally thinks that they can take over. trust me i watched it on ross kemp on gangs.

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    Fuchsbrauner Female 18-29
    183 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 12:26 am
    It`s my own patented personal slang.
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    mamencho Male 18-29
    9 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 1:20 am
    call me crazy but with all these hate, corruption, wars, greed and natural disaster that are happening it looks to me that the world is getting ready for a major change, just look a the signs...but of course that is just my personal opinion (apologies for my grammar)
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    NunuChan Male 18-29
    279 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 2:50 am
    You can say whatever you want about it, at the end it`s wrong, why ? The means use to do it. Beating people up won`t make russia any better, killing people won`t make anyone feel better, genocide / revolution will just lead one poo to another. We`ve seen that in the past, they think they can over come the past, but anyway...

    And wtf, did those draters ever heard of what the nazis did to them ? Hitler sure did some harm in the past, and he`s still going to make more with that kind of drattard who follows his ideology.

    K, no open bet : Who will go there to clean up that mess ? :D drama+++

  72. Profile photo of Hydrolysate
    Hydrolysate Male 70 & Over
    340 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 4:14 am
    Mafibofweeb9. You`re a Jewish person as your profile says. You live in Pennsylvania as your profile says.

    I`m the same age as you and I also live in Pennsylvania, shall we organize a fight?

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    NowPleaseRea Male 70 & Over
    176 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 8:48 am
    this is an early warning of bad conflict to come if unrestricted immigration of third world overpopulated regions have free access to the more organized societies and their carefully crafted infrastructure that has taken billions of man hours to create. The hoardes cant wait to leave their own crummy countries and put pressure on the systems of the first world. Thats a fact, its not racist. If I was them I`d leave mexico, the middle east, africa, india tommorrow if i knew I could be living in such clean and civilized places as europe and scandanavia that have far far lower birth rates. The first world is not a pressure relief valve for the disorganized third world. The problems they have there have to be solved there. Transfering their populations to the first world does not solve their problems but it does spread their problems elsewhere - which ultimately does no one any good.
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    icantrecall Female 18-29
    61 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 8:56 am
    "I doubt any of you have had a serious, calm conversation with one to discuss your different viewpoints on government and racial differences."

    I totally would if it wasn`t for the fact that they`d beat the poo out of me.

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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 10:05 am
    Don`t worry Mafibo, our neo nutsi would probobly be too busy torturing kittens and feasting on the flesh of the living to ever really loose in a fight with you.
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    yesssssssss Male 13-17
    61 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 10:32 am
    neo-nazi`s are just idiots, do they not realise that HITLER is not someone you should follow?
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    DavidCameron Male 40-49
    109 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 10:38 am
    this is a reason why i hate the Russians
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    bergeracman Male 18-29
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    May 13, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    Putin has connections with the russian mafia and also invests in nuclear power. the government don`t give a poo about the poor. there r also too many billionaires in russia, and its just too unbalanced. so its obvious that this would happen.
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    Queen_Jay Female 18-29
    241 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 5:19 pm
    This disgusts me. And unfortunately I saw the decapitating video...
    It is very sad that the government looks the other way when it comes to these horrible extremists...
  80. Profile photo of JJMUG
    JJMUG Male 18-29
    25 posts
    May 13, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    The Russian people got ruined by capitalism.
    Ironic that you are also ignorant. It was too fast of a switch from Command to Free market. There was no evolution like in Vietnam. Just a well now its supply and demand not what the government wants.

    Putin may do something or not who knows.

  81. Profile photo of Doomlike
    Doomlike Male 13-17
    416 posts
    May 14, 2008 at 11:13 am
    Their so brave. :0

    Seriuosly I get their point, and I think it`s hard to have immigrants work for somuch less and having to deal with that. But this is not the right way to solve the problem.

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    angelicamber Female 18-29
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    May 14, 2008 at 2:02 pm
    wow o_______0

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