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Also, even though I don`t pay taxes yet, when I do, I do not want my money going towards something I don`t support. If they gave my taxes to orphanages and to kids who are loved and alive, it would be fine. But instead, they give tax dollars to abortion clinics, to dead babies and irresponsible (most of the time) mothers, even though the majority (57%) of American`s are pro-life. I think the states need to hold a vote on this issue, then make a decision regarding abortion laws. After that, I believe that all abortions should be handled at the state level until further decisions are made by our countries leaders and law-makers. Then, they can decide if the law would become national based on the number of pro-life states.
Although I do know that America pays their workers peanuts, so that needs to be sorted out first.
Here`s for a raise! lol
I still think the woman should have the right to choose. If I fell pregnant tomorrow I would abort as I have 3 month old twins and a 7 year old and I personally cannot handle another baby (aside from other reasons) But to prevent being in that situation in the first place I will take every precaution I can to NOT fall pregnant
If any side I`m really on, it`s with londoncallme (I think her name was) and that`s pro education
health risk abortions are still "murder" in my eyes just as much as rape or choice. I agree that women who constantly have numerous abortions because they don`t want a child are really just stupid (because they are abusing a system made for woman who see no other way out) Adoption works to an extent, but the back up and red tape would make an overload of unwanted children in the world. Too many kids and not enough homes to go to. Look at Chinese ...umm what are they called...? adoption home thingys. They have actual death rooms in them so the babies only end up dying anyway, albiet more painfully then if those woman had a chance(or choice) to abort in the first place
Sisters? Try brothers. You do realize that abortion was made legal by men, don`t you? In 1973, there were very few women involved in politics.
First off, I base my opinions on what I and only I believe is right. I don`t care what others think. I`ve done my research on the subject, and choosen the side that has a clear viewpoint, MANY clear reasons, and can defend their stance. I choose my opinions and my words wisely, and you have yet to be able to offer me a clear reason on why you believe abortion is okay, though I`ve offered you many reasons why it`s not.
If it`s a health risk, usually the baby and/or the mother dies. In this case, it would be murder to force a mother to carry a child that would kill her, especially if the child had no chance of survival itself. She the difference?
Vindicate: Why do you keep comparing humans to animals? Don`t you agree that we are much more supreme, civilized, and intelligent? If not, can I eat you? Cannibalism is part of the animal world.
actiongirl: I`m winning by proving points. You`re losing by saying stupid poo about Hannah Montanna. Prove to me why abortion should remain legal, and I`ll tell you why it shouldn`t be legal in the first place. Oh, that`s right...the only arguement you have is "It`s the mother`s body". I can counteragrue that with "It`s the baby`s body".
"I don`t have to reason, argue, or defend that."Then if I go and murder someone just for the sake of it, I don`t have to reason, argue, or defend that? Just because you say something is okay, doesn`t mean it is. You should realize that.
And you have yet to deny that you`re racist. And you have yet to argue against the point I made.
Vindicate: That`s nature. If the baby is born and dies...then so be it. If you purposely kill the baby because you don`t want it, it`s murder.
For most species, if there`s a baby animal born that won`t survive, it`s left to die. If it`s too small, too sickly, or otherwise lacking, the mother realizes there`s no point in trying to keep it alive, so leaves it to die and focuses on next year`s procreation.
IF YOU DON`T WANT AN ABORTION, DON`T BLOODY HAVE ONE. But get YOUR religious views out of MY life. And bloody well don`t make LAWS based off the bible. That`s my bottom line.
I mean, you guys don`t usually really care about the mother right, so what does it matter?
OK< over it now? fine. Good. NEXT!
"Owning" used to actually mean something online, but it has been diluted so much by static like yours that it sounds kind of babyish now to claim it.
Epic fail? ummm...no. Abortions are legal. I don`t have to reason, argue, or defend that. Not only is it legal, it probably always will be legal. Some woman`s probably having one right now. You`re the one getting all huffy over it and all I want is to point out that all the teenager hormone-hazed arguing isn`t going to change that. Enjoy and embrace the freedoms your sisters spent generations securing for you. If you don`t want to use them, if you never HAVE to...great! Then just don`t pee in someone else`s cereal because you "think" abortion is wrong. And by "think" I mean having overheard something someone said that sounded cool and informed enough that when repeated - especially by someone so young - would surely make you appear "...a mature and level-headed person for [your] age..."
Its immature to be o
"Also, all these prolifers should pony up enough cash to support these would-be babies or pipe down."
Well, with all the money that is spent on abortions every year, we would have enough money to support these real-live babies. Or how about adoption? Adoption agencies will pay for a child`s needs.
Abortions being legal has nothing to do with it either. Slavery was one legal. So was segregation. Or are you a racist, too? I wouldn`t doubt that you are.
Hey, remember that time last year when your mom died of Cancer? X-(
No longer having fun - I feel like I`m beating up on my kid sister. :-<
lol regarding #11 - Sweetie, you don`t even own the room in which you sleep, much less me. I bet your mom wishes you`d run away before the weekend comes so she can enjoy an otherwise quiet Sunday. Your preteen self-righteousness is making my ovaries dry up.
I seriously doubt you know 20 atheists. I can plainly envision you and your friends all in matching Hannah Montana shirts misinforming each other about abortions, each of you striving to prove your vast knowledge on the subject and not one of you knowing a single woman who`s faced the choice of abortion (besides your Aunt Victoria who has since turned her life over to the Lawd).
Wait...I just have to laugh once more - "...the EASY way out..." HAWHAWHAW
Thank god I`m not a teenager.
There`s a reason extremists use college campuses for their propaganda - young impressionable minds yearning to identify with a cause. Easy to find worker bees. Look at how passionate they get. ^^^
No way should any woman - especially underage - have to pay for an adolescent mistake for the rest of their lives.
Mur - go preach elsewhere please. Come back when you start shaving your legs. And by the way, people die in hospitals every day with no one to contact. You logic is riddled with religion. Sorry.
Don`t like abortions? Don`t have one.
"I am neurtal in this, I mean I know that the baby can have potental, but killing one for stem cells also has potental."
Okay, well my view on that is this:ONLY if the mother`s health is in danger should people be able to choose to abort... UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES ONLY!! And if they do choose to abort if their health is at risk, then those babies can be used for stem-cell research, but ONLY those babies. Other abortions are needless and selfish. Just because your "not married","poor","too young","have other things to do other than own up to my responsibility" or "just don`t want a baby" doesn`t me
I am neurtal in this, I mean I know that the baby can have potental, but killing one for stem cells also has potental.
I did my research. And WOAH....it`s the exact same date that he wrote that!
Given the large amount of abortions done each year, the actual number of abortions done after the first twelve weeks of pregnancy is quite large, even though it is a small percentage of the 1.3 million abortions done annually.
Number of abortions Weeks of pregnancy(per year) 90,000 13-15 weeks60,000 16-20 weeks 15,000 21 or more weeks600 after 26 weeks (after 6 months)
Young: 55% are under 25; 21% are teenagers. Unmarried: More than half (51%) of women who are pregnant and not married will abort their unborn baby. Unmarried women are 6 times more likely than are married women to have an abortion.
A baby would interfere with work, school, or other responsibilities (75%) Cannot afford to have a child (66%) Do not want to be a single parent or have Problems in the relationship with their husband or partner (50%) Only 1% of women aborting say they have been advised that their unborn baby has a defect, and only 1% say they became pregnant by rape or incest. (Facts in Brief, The Alan Guttmacher Institute, September 1995.)
Accidental falls (12,000) Drownings (4,000) Poisonings (6,000) Car accidents (40,000) Suicides (30,000) Homicides (25,000)
Altogether Total- 1,431,996
Totaly abortions since 1973- 48,589,993(1.6 million
LESS THAN 2 YEARS in prison does not, nor will it ever, pay for a life that will never get a chance to live.
If someone sucked my brains out through a tube and cut off all my limbs, I would hope to God Almighty that they would get more than 2 years in prison." (taken from my earlier post)
Okay, some species eat their offspring to SURVIVE (very few I`m assuming). We don`t abort babies so WE can survive, we abort babies so THEY don`t survive. Humans often abort babies out of their own selfishness, so that they can live their life in the way they want to, but in all reality, they made their choice when they decided to have sexual intercourse.
Killing children to "protect" them from a life of Hell implies that we should also kill everyone else in the world who is ALREADY living a life of Hell. If you are so eager to kill unwanted babies out of misplaced compassion, why are you not also eager to kill the masses of starved and diseased people in the world? Isn`t killing them a necessary evil? See the contradiction?
These are the types of abortion that are performed today:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvshMADC7...
(Not graphic. The first one is a video illustrastion and the second one is an actual ultrasound of an abortion. The second one is very sad, seeing that it is still performed today).
Who said this? No, it wasn`t a pro-choice leader. It was Stephen A. Douglas, and he was defending slavery and the right of every slave owner to decide whether their actions were right or wrong. He was pro-choice.
"It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish" -Mother Teresa
"Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born"-Ronald Regan
"If you are pro-choice please go to your mother tonight and thank her for being pro-life"-Author Unknown
"They [the women] are never allowed to look at the ultrasound because we knew that if they so much as heard the heart beat, they wouldn`t want to have an abortion."Dr. Randall, abortion physician
I think it`s very disturbing that an abortion physician would admit that, but at least he`s honest, right???
Interesting how the girl has no real points.
If you had a medical procedure and it resulted in your death, your family and close friends would be devestated and furious. The doctor who performed surgery on you would lose his job, be sued, and be put away. So yeah, people would have an opinion if a medical procedure caused your own death. ...like it does every time someone aborts their child.
Yet they have to pay child support? It`s their child too.
Abortion will always exist. Hopefully, a safe avenue to abortion will always exist.
So you get to choose whether to have a baby or not, but men don`t have the choice whether or not to pay child support?
And a life by technical definitions is1. reproduction2. growth and/or differentiation through metabolism (which usually implies some form of respiration)3. adaptation to the environment4. the ability to distort entropy--that is, to increase or maintain the organization of the living system at the expense of the environment.
At week 11 when it is considered a fetus it meets all these criteria. (Week 11 is when they receive sex organs. If not it would be sooner)
Another point on that, here in australia it is virtually impossible to adopt kids. There is so much red tape it really is almost impossible. We need to make such things more accessible to familys who will genuinely look after kids
talk down to me all you want. you can`t completely ignore the fact that that clump of cells would grow into a person. skirting around that fact proves what i said about using stupid little "points" to prove something that can`t be proven if you argue keeping the whole picture in mind.
Jolindie: "grown enough to get yourself pregnant, you`re grown enough to accept responsibility for your actions." I disagree with that statement because girls can start being technically able to become pregnant as young as their pre-teens. Which is today`s world has very few that are capable of making a healthy decision regarding their sex lives imo. And I should stop there before I start getting all into the immaturity level that faces today`s youths... I`m pro-education!
Which is why I said late-term abortion is wrong. At this time the fetus does not act like a tumor anymore. Tumors do not often grow into babies, I understand that. Good job at spotting that critical difference!
Not all people who consider having or have had an abortion are spoiled, selfish wh0res, you know. There are plenty of individuals who are poor, cannot afford or not educated about contraceptives and do get pregnant by accident. Once the baby is had, many mothers can`t bear to give it up-and children are expensive. Now they have to not only pay for food and clothing and medical expenses and day care, or quit their job, but take on a whole new psychological role that they may not be ready for-which is detrimental to their children. Back to birthing-not only, on a vainer note, does it fuchk up your body, but 6 percent of mothers are affected with post-traumatic stress disorder after birth, which can last long after birth, adopti
Oh yes, it can. At an early state, a fetus is no more than a clump of cells feeding off the body without concious thought or feeling. :)
Late-term abortion, where the baby is aware and concious, is wrong.
Unfoutunately, you are wrong. If a woman can`t get an abortion any other way and having that baby is going to destroy her life then she very well might resort to illegal means. More likely she would try an herbal inducer first, though.
Thanks London, glad I did make sense to someone lol
Mur I can see where your coming from. It is truly a horrible decision, and for a lot of women the reason they grieve is because it`s like a miscarriage. It`s a death, simple as that. But they aren`t grieving cause it`s wrong. It`s wrong in your opinion. I dunno, some cases it`s wrong (when people get pregnant 5 times and abort 5 times because they are too lazy to use contraception)
As for people abusing their kid because they were born, it happens. I know a chick who wouldn`t take care of her baby (had at 16 I think) and when he was 2-ish she fobbed him off onto her grandparents, just so she could go out and party and use drugs. That kid is wild, seriously, he is one of those demon kids you see around wrecking everything, swearing. His grandparents love him and provide for him beautifully, but deep down he knows he`s not wanted.
If you believe that abortions are wrong if used as a birth control method, if you believe that life begins at conception, if you believe that abortions should only be performed under rare circumstances where the woman`s or the child`s health are at risk, and you believe in other forms of birth control (i.e. condoms, pills, abstaining from sex), you are most likely Pro-Life.
If you believe that it`s the woman`s decision regardless of the situation, you are most likely Pro-Choice.
Mur: You have a point about that. I`m sorry for assuming that you are judging the women. And sometimes people make decisions they regret... We`re only human.
Damn... I feel like I`m ripping my hairs out with frustration over this... Why can`t any decision be simple? For me, it`s far more difficult because I can see both sides and I have a hard time understanding where I stand technically. For me, the biggest thing is educating people. If more people knew there options then there would be less of this happening. I don`t know if the world would be perfect, but at least more people would know.
Also, if I murdered a full grown human being, it wouldn`t matter what reason I had. It`s still murder and I would still be put away for a VERY long time.
Would a good parent really abuse their kid because of something that was not their fault. Would they really use that against their child and tell them "I didn`t want you. You were a mistake. You ruined my life."??? Would someone really do that?
Most parents wouldn`t. Most parents would grow to love their child and they were never regret the decision they made.
My friend was going to be aborted, even though her mom was married and had a good job. She just didn`t want kids. Well this girl survived the saline solution,thank God. She`s perfectly fine. I don`t know where I would be without her. And her mom is happy she survived too, but she regrets tr
Honestly, if someone is going to try to perform an abortion on themselves with a coathanger, they need mental evaluation. No one in their right mind would do such a thing. The pain would be brutal, and they would undoubtedly injure themselves.
What happens is that the woman becomes emotionally attached to the baby.Isn`t the whole point of abortion to get rid of the child before you become emotionally attached, because deep in your heart you want your child and you`ll miss them for the rest of your life. You`ll always think "What would have happened".
Shellie: And the women who have abortions end up regretting it and grieving their loss for the rest of their lives. Therefore, they know it`s wrong. So why did they do it in the first place?
Again, is it really the crosses that are bothering you? Because it`s not just a religious view, it`s determining whether or not we`re killing our own human beings-murder is against the law and unethical no matter what religion you are. That Pro-life group can replace the crosses with regular tombstones and it would be the same concept. Also, why are women who WILLINGLY abort their children grieving? If they did it by their own choice, why do they regret it? Because they know it`s wrong. If their life is threatened, that`s different.
And just how are these tumors demonstrated to be alive?
Anyway I fell pregnant regardless of the precautions I took. I chose to keep my son because I felt I could do it. I was failing at school and I was young, but I still done it.
Anyway point of that dribble was it still happens, even though it is rare. Am I making sense? lol
Absofrickinlutely, I`m with ya on that one
More education is needed, I think, to help girls who may end up raped and in this situation know that there`s nothing to be ashamed of. They weren`t in the wrong.
told ya im tired lol
A lot of women are too ashamed to go to the doctors or tell the police about being raped
*sob* I`m too tired to debate lol
I dunno, to me it always seems as if women are judged... here, an example :
a lady who asked for help after an abortion
Furthermore, if you`re raped - you sure as hell don`t wait for the sperm to reach the ovum. You get your ass into the local ED and get a D&C performed. It`s not an abortion, it`s scraping and cleaning the uterus to make sure there`s no sperm and no ovum therefore no resulting pregnancy.
The whole rape defense is lame on that very basis. Get your butt in to the ED pronto.
I`m pro-choice, to an extent. It shouldn`t be used as birth control but I wouldn`t want to take away a woman`s right to choose whether she wants her baby to live with a debilitating disease (such as Tay Sachs) or other diseases that cause horrific symptoms (such as breaking bones every time you change a diaper).
Yes, there is adopting, but a lot of adopted kids do not have happy endings and get a proper home for life. Not only that, there is the emotional side for the mother to carry the baby for 9 months and hand it over. (I did say could not care for the child, not could not feel for it)
I know a couple of woman who have had abortions and it killed them emotionally, but I believe they done the right thing. Don`t judge the woman, they know what they have done and believe it or not, it hurts them for the rest of their life.
Or just kill all the Africans who are the primary source of starvation in the world.
A crime is nothing more than a belief that a group of people agreed on. There are still crimes which are debatable like drugs or immigration. So how can you say that this is any different than those. At one point slavery was the norm until people pushed for reform. At another point the killing of Jews was acceptable. But people shoved their beliefs down other people`s throat and it became law.
All of those require energy, with the exception of more gas which requires fantasy. And energy comes from our currently woefully-underdeveloped energy network relying on a system that is quickly becoming unfeasible. So no, it is not an option to just `pump more gas`.
"No, AIDS is a disease that kills and harms the human body. Babies don`t kill."
Fine. Tumors. Tumors do not always kill (Humans, which babies will become, do not always kill) and can be demonstrated to be alive.
We don`t need your Canadian water.
You derailed off your original point, phail.
"Okay, let`s replace pepper with single-celled organisms, which have the ability to react to stimuli and avoid threats.
AIDS must now be given rights. It is immoral to kill an organism that can be physically demonstrated to have a capability present in all life for the past 4.5 billion freaking years."
No, AIDS is a disease that kills and harms the human body. Babies don`t kill. Babies don`t harm us, so why should we
Okay, let`s replace pepper with single-celled organisms, which have the ability to react to stimuli and avoid threats.
AIDS must now be given rights. It is immoral to kill an organism that can be physically demonstrated to have a capability present in all life for the past 4.5 billion freaking years.
There is not, however, enough food, water, medical supplies, school space, gasoline, or available jobs. Overpopulation is very real and it`s a massive problem.
Social Darwinism. It works for me.
EmoGangster,If you didn`t want to argue about whether pepper is alive or not, what did you want to argue about? You knew that your video was out of context, and you didn`t have a point.
Also, I live in a town of about 10,000 people. There`s thousands of empty homes here. My community can give babies a place to live.What about all the plains out west? You could drive 300 miles down a road without seeing a single soul. Let`s put the babies there. Build them their own town even.
Just because you live in a rural area does not mean the world is not facing over-population.
Or does it really matter that much? It`s the same concept.
not much of an atheist then.
Also, I live in a town of about 10,000 people. There`s thousands of empty homes here. My community can give babies a place to live.What about all the plains out west? You could drive 300 miles down a road without seeing a single soul. Let`s put the babies there. Build them their own town even.
Overpopulation is not the issue.
I want you to1) Get a cup.2) Put some water in it3) Sprinkle pepper all around on the water.4) Pump some liquid soap into the center of the glass.Or watch this video;;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx-qVyeX2...
OMGZZ!!! the pepper is HAVING A WILL TO NOT GET SOAPY!!
Now I want you to argue how pepper does not fight for it`s lack-of-soapiness in the glass of water.
heh.heh. just kidding.
Is that why my aunt victoria has been waiting over a year to get a child, because they are millions of them?
Atheists believe in Pro-life too, so no.
Some atheists get buried with crosses instead of headstones.
First off, I learned evolution in high school and I went to a catholic high school. Second, you can have demonstrations on a public or private university b/c its FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It doesn`t matter if its about religion or not. So a private canadian college wouldn`t allow this...I think they would. And you just insulted 300 million people by calling us gross.
I can name 50 on my atheist friends who are pro-life
"what about the separation of church and state?" Freedom of speech.
"A Canadian university or College would never allow this to happen..." Canada must lack freedom of speech.
"but hey they teach us evolution in high school too."
So do U.S. schools.
"This is why the rest of the world thinks the U.S is CRAZY !!!" Only stupid Canadians
"The religious right (and G.W`s policies) are giving the states a very bad name in almost all western countries." And non-nice individuals like you.
Over-population is a huge problem facing the planet, why bring an unwanted child into this world when there are 1 000 000`s of children who already need to be adopted???
1. It was probably a private university2. so they dont allow freedom of speech in Canada?3. Biology, all they teach you for an entire semester is evolution.
Also, babies were sometimes LEGALLY aborted at FULL TERM up until 2003!!! And have you seen the sentence for performing or recieving a partial birth abortion??? Only a fine...or less than 2 years in prison!
If someone sucked my brains out through a tube and cut off all my limbs, I would hope to God Almighty that they would get more than 2 years in prison.
Also, 15 percent of the population of the United States has been aborted, and only .5 percent were necessary to the mother`s health or were result of rape.
We`ve started something that no one can stop no matter what we do. Abortion has gone too far.
This is why the rest of the world thinks the U.S is CRAZY !!! The religious right (and G.W`s policies) are giving the states a very bad name in almost all western countries."
Dude shut the hell up.
This is why the rest of the world thinks the U.S is CRAZY !!! The religious right (and G.W`s policies) are giving the states a very bad name in almost all western countries.
"Why isn`t that cell human?" It is a human cell, but not human as defined by us.
"Does a fully functional brain make one a human?" No, brain dead people are human.
"Does that mean those with a mental disability are less human?..." Mental people are just as human, and even more human the fetuses.
This is taken from wikipedia:The approximate number of induced abortions performed worldwide in 2003 was 42 million.
I think we can all agree that at the moment of conception there is a living cell. Why isn`t that cell human? Does a fully functional brain make one a human? Does that mean those with a mental disability are less human?...
But, without me, there would be no debate. :P
It`s like killing bacteria and then people saying "OMG! MURDERZ111!"
Anyway, I think I`ve tolerated IAB enough for constantly bashing my religious beliefs, and it pisses me off to an extreme. But if Life/Choice becomes IAB`s new debate topic, I vow never to come back to this site.
(Even though no one will miss me)
and women do get to choose what to do with their bodies. they choose to have unprotected sex and get pregnant. thats their choice. they should stick to it
In the third trimester maybe, but not before that.
It would really matter at that point, b/c abortion would be illegal.
And I`m very sorry for her loss, and I hope they serve a very long sentence.
Johnnyk- Yeah, my pregnant friend got beat up by some girls at my highschool. They were charged with attempted murder. She was like 7 months, clearly showing.
We realized slaves were sentient beings. Fetuses are not, and never will be.
The abortion issue comes down to one and only one question: Where does life begin?
Everyone (or most everyone) agrees that murder is bad and should be illegal. Therefore, if you believe life begins at conception, you should be anti-abortion.
However, if you believe life begins at birth, abortion should be less of a moral issue to you.
And before you go trying to cite science or religion to prove when life begins, please realize that it is a purely philosophical question that cannot be definitively answered. Each person will have their own opinion, and they are entitled to it.
Alright, now I feel like I helped even though this is too ling and no one will bother to read it.
Only if they are injured during a violent act against the mother.
I.E. - if the mother of the fetus is shot and killed, the killer is considered to have killed 2 poeple.
The chance of becoming pregnant from a rape is EXTREMELY rare. And a true mother would never hate her child, regardless.
"I am entirly pro choice - it is a woman`s body and it is her choice what to do. If she wants to keep it fine, if she wants to be prolife, fine. but EVERY woman should be given the choice."
Some women may not be psychologically able to make a decision regarding abortion. Perhaps they are distressed? Or under pressure from a third party.
I am pro-choice and will remain so until the world finds an alternative solution for the unwanted/parentless kids who just want to live.
My cousin is 10 now, but wouldn`t be if his biological mother hadn`t made a very difficult decision. She was raped at the age of 11. Her family wanted to abort the baby, but she refused. My cousin and his biological mother were luckier to have found my uncle than most of the women, who do end up choosing the more desperate route, but I will support them in that decision, because it is their decision to make until the fetus is capable of being born alive and can survive on its own.
I also think that the pro-life folks can show all the dead fetus pictures they want, because I believe in the first amendment and I know it won̵
Your logic is on a completely different level. You`re talking about real people in your post, fetuses technically aren`t real people, and therefore do not have rights, and are not on the same level as slaves. Or anybody else.
That is still a matter of debate. Some say they can just have the baby and give it to an orphanage so that they wont have to bear the difficulties of it, and others say that it would still be discomfort for the mother either way. I am undecided on that.
What about rape? Should a woman who is raped have to bear a child from that incounter, and perhaps bear a hatred for the child because of how it was conceived?
I am entirly pro choice - it is a woman`s body and it is her choice what to do. If she wants to keep it fine, if she wants to be prolife, fine. but EVERY woman should be given the choice.
runs away before debate ensues*
I understand how you think, which is why I agree with a policy where abortion is safe, legal, and rare.
Western society is collapsing thanks to these pussies.
If the demonstration was on school property it would probably have to be sanctioned by the school. If the anti-abortionists went through all the hoops of securing permission, then he had no right to tear out the crosses. Sucks, `cause I agree with him, but rights go both ways.
i think it is ok to do as long as you don`t ram it down their throats, like protesting at a funeral is not fair because they can`t ignore you
i don`t know where this is or if there is more to it...but this seems like overkill to me
Guy "Since its a right, you don`t have the right to challenge it." Ummmmm...yeah, they do. Its called freedom of speech. Since its a right to burn the American flag, does that mean people can`t challenge it? I believe many have before, and many will in the future.
"I`m against abortion, but for killing babies"
What are they talking about and why the hell are they removing the crosses?