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Date: 04/04/08 09:10 AM

143 Responses to Westboro Baptist Church gets Rick-Rolled

  1. Profile photo of BikerTeen
    BikerTeen Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:16 am
    lol and "anti-fad" sign i love it
  2. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:16 am
    I still dont understand how rick roll became so famous

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    Pastafarian Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:16 am
    The guy neglected to do the the dance properly. :(
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    kaptink Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:17 am
    brilliant. I love how the other side seemed to say "god hates mohawks"
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    bombsquad505 Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:20 am
    YES!!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha, that is awesome. You just got Rick Rolled, b*tch! I just wish that someone there would have at least looked a little peeved at his presence...
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    BikerTeen Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:20 am
    oops "anti-fag"
  7. Profile photo of Dynmitrave
    Dynmitrave Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:27 am
    It pisses me off when these people act like they represent Christianity.

    God doesn`t hate people. We all sin.

    Evolutionism can co-exist with creationism.

    I may disagree with your views about whether there`s a God or not, but that doesn`t mean I`m gonna start yelling about how you`re going to Hell. No arguments are ever won that way. So many Christians use circular arguments and fire-n-brimstone to plead their case that it makes a bad name for the ones who do have a brain cell or two and can have a reasonable discussion.

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    Dynmitrave Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:29 am
    And yeah, this was hilarious. :)
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    ayull Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:30 am
    ^Very tolerant and respectful of other peoples beliefs. You should be proud.
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    theuhstuf Female 70 & Over
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:35 am
    primetimekin on Friday, April 04, 2008 9:16:17 AM said
    "I still dont understand how rick roll became so famous"

    World of Warcaft forums :p

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    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:36 am
    I have a feeling some European will come along and say something along the lines of: "This is the ignorance you would expect from US."

    Let me back something up with a little thing called Spain:
    European Racism

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    Wey_Pooh Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:36 am
    Only people going to heaven are aborted babies. lol
    wait nevermind. they`re not baptised, so no one is going to heaven.
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    theuhstuf Female 70 & Over
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:37 am
    Also i`d like to say that christians who believe their religion is the only one that is true and that jesus is the only savior blah blah blah, makes you just as bad as islamic extremists.
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    Natsuki Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:45 am
    meh no one seemed to care :( - good laugh though
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    icantrecall Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:47 am
    Westboro Baptist is going to protest in my area this month. I think I might do something like that haha. awesome
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    paramecium Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:47 am
    Hmmm that was OK. How do we really know it was effective?

    jxl180: Some European might say that but I agree, lots of racism in good old England too.

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    azzerbdx Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:59 am
    Also i`d like to say that christians who believe their religion is the only one that is true and that jesus is the only savior blah blah blah, makes you just as bad as islamic extremists.

    Christian Extremists? It`s in the Quran that there were other prophets other than Muhamid, Islam is the least ignorant of the religions.

  18. Profile photo of jxl180
    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:03 am
    No, I think Judaism is.
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    Kay62442 Female 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:10 am
    Kudos to that guy. I think a homosexual couple should just start having sex right next to them and see how they like that. ;-)
  20. Profile photo of jxl180
    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:14 am
    ^ That`s pretty much my weekend ^
  21. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:14 am
    Wrong, Atheism is the least ignorant because there`s no rules to cram down other peoples troughts.
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    murrymalty Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:20 am
    "This is the ignorance you would expect from US."
    lol :D
    ps jxl180 ^dont make sense?
  23. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:24 am
    "Wrong, Atheism is the least ignorant because there`s no rules to cram down other peoples thoughts."
    Give it time, once the united atheist alliance comes, give it time. Disputes over scientific claims will cause atheism to grow into new forms.
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:24 am
    Humankind is ignorant, period.

    Anyways, that guy is my new hero.

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    theuhstuf Female 70 & Over
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:30 am
    religion = a way to be manipulated.
  26. Profile photo of FrankCastle0
    FrankCastle0 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:43 am
    as a Christian, I`m proud to see what Dynmitrave wrote. Not many Christians even understand their religion like we do. It is even written in our book. "LET HE WHO LIVE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE".

    Some Christians just need to get that grilled onto their skins. Don`t pass judgement on someone because they believe differently than you. Treat him as your brother, everyone is entitled to their opinion and beliefs.


    Stop making us look bad.

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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:47 am
    this is just pathetic

    meaning that racism video

  28. Profile photo of jxl180
    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:57 am
    ^ what do you mean Tonyjet ^

    Are you saying that the way people can treat another person so cruel is pathetic. (or the video itself, lol)

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    FrankCastle0 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:59 am
    Yeah, his comment was a little... out in left field.


    Wanna fill us in?

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    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 11:06 am
    Oh and I did not mean to post the video to show a representation of all Europeans, because one video can not represent a whole nation (or continent, I guess) of people, just as the racism and WBC cannot represent all of the US.
  31. Profile photo of Hypersapien
    Hypersapien Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2008 at 11:24 am
    "Wrong, Atheism is the least ignorant because there`s no rules to cram down other peoples troughts."

    No, because atheism isn`t a religion. You are correct that it is less ignorant than any religion, though.

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    red_raven Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 11:34 am
    Why do these things always turn into religious disputes.
    I`m for letting people worship whatever they want as long as they don`t make me do the same.
    Also, that video was awesome.
  33. Profile photo of FrankCastle0
    FrankCastle0 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 11:36 am
    There really isn`t a religious dispute here. People just sharing opinions.
  34. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:00 pm
    "Give it time, once the united atheist alliance comes, give it time. Disputes over scientific claims will cause atheism to grow into new forms."

    If you get your religious philosophy from South Park, you`ve got a long ways to go before becoming even remotely credible.

    "as a Christian, I`m proud to see what Dynmitrave wrote. Not many Christians even understand their religion like we do. It is even written in our book. "LET HE WHO LIVE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE"."

    It is also written in your book that you must personally kill people who don`t listen to priests, witches, homosexuals, fortunetellers, kids who disrespect or hit their parents, adulterers, fornicators, followers of other religions and non-believers, false prophets, women who aren`t virgins when wed, blasphemers, people who work on the Sabbath, or the children of any of the above. I`d say you`re the one who doesn`t understand your own religion.

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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    Oh for drat sake here we go again.
  36. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    catbarf, you`re only taking things out of context again, stop making assumptions and whatnot. and citation? and also, most of the bible should be taken metaphorically, if you haven`t noticed

    as a final note, here are some references to the bible
    www.smouch.net/lol

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    angelicamber Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    :/ FAIL!
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    ClearSky87 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    there should be a new fad where people try and make the funniest vidoe of someone ruining westboro catholic church protests
  39. Profile photo of SpacemnSpiff
    SpacemnSpiff Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:37 pm
    I can`t believe how much people on this website attack Christianity. Why is that? I know people feel that Christians try to push their beliefs on to other people ,but isn`t that what free speech is all about? When it comes down to it how is standing in the street saying Jesus is great and you should follow him any different then saying Obama/Hillary/McCain is great and you should vote for him/her.
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    mlchris Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:54 pm
    These people piss me off. Especially the fact that they protested the funerals of the kids from NIU because Northern had some kind of gay conference (not sure what is was) at the school. They are all non-nice individuals.
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    mlchris Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:55 pm
    sorry for the double post...i didnt say non nice individuals. i said a-holes..but oh well. :\
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    TwilightLies Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 12:57 pm
    heh.
  43. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    also, i`d like to say, that rick astley > westboro baptist church. he lives in all of us.
  44. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    "catbarf, you`re only taking things out of context again, stop making assumptions and whatnot. "

    Not at all. Quite a few of these are very explicit instructions in Deuteronomy and Leviticus.

    "and citation?"

    In order- Deuteronomy 17:12, Exodus 22:17, Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27, Exodus 21:15, Leviticus 20:9, Leviticus 20:10, Leviticus 21:9, Exodus 22:19, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13, Zechariah 13:3, Deuteronomy 13:13-19, Deuteronomy 22:20-21, Deuteronomy 13:7-12, Deuteronomy 17:2-5, Leviticus 24:10-16, Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Romans 1:24-32, and Exodus 31:12-15. Have fun.

    "and also, most of the bible should be taken metaphorically, if you haven`t noticed"

    The references to the Earth being flat are just metaphor.

    Adam and Eve? Metaphor, there`s not enough genetic variation with just two people.

    Explicit instructions to kill people? Oh, come now, it must be metaphor.

    God? Obviously metaphor.

    See where this is going?

  45. Profile photo of jxl180
    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:12 pm
    "When it comes down to it how is standing in the street saying Jesus is great and you should follow him any different then saying Obama/Hillary/McCain is great and you should vote for him/her." - Spacemnspiff

    I don`t have a problem with that, and I wouldn`t care if they did that. It`s the fact that their signs don`t say Jesus is great, their signs say:
    God hates fags
    Thank god for 9/11
    thank god for dead soldier
    god hates america
    and much more
    plus they protest at soldier`s funerals

    Owned. By Fox News.

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:13 pm
    "Why is that? I know people feel that Christians try to push their beliefs on to other people ,but isn`t that what free speech is all about?"

    No, trying to enforce your beliefs on others by incorporating them into the legal system is not free speech.

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    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:23 pm
    Of course .. it`s only free speech when you`re bashing someone.. It`s definately not free speech when you defend your belief system.. Right Catbarf??
  48. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    Yes, but you`re completely taking all those quotes out of text. They`re all talking about doing away with evil, and most the bible is speaking about doing away with the evil actions, not the people themselves.

    Also Ross, if God is a metaphor, then we`re just biological things, our only purpose is to reproduce. Why aren`t you trying to have sex? Isn`t that your only purpose? Produce offspring? What`s the use of learning if it only means you`ll die?

    Also, Adam and Eve could be more literal, Cain and Abel happened to stumble upon cities, meaning God probably didn`t just create two people. Their could have been others, a whole lot at that, and it was never fully explained. Also, you only took examples of metaphors, Jesus was an actual person, he wasn`t just a metaphor, Isrealites are real people, hardships they faced really happened, there are real things that happened.

    Also, the instructions to kill people you gave were all with the exception of the passage in Romans

  49. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    from the Old testament, where God shows wrath to sin, Christians believe that humanity has been forgiven through Christ, so we`re not supposed to be persecuting others, we believe that no human is more "righteous" then the other in the actions that do. We are not supposed to be protesting other people`s faults when we have plenty of our own.
  50. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    Oh, and your country was founded by people seeking religious freedom.. I don`t think it should be a surprise that our laws, at one time, were created to preserve a christian sort of morality.. Granted, the continent of North America was already well populated by a very proud and beautiful culture, but the past is the past.. Earn some respect and admit that religious `zealots` created this land where you`re entitled to believe whatever you want.. If it wasn`t for them, we`d all be under the rule of a monarchy..
  51. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    why atheists care about religion

    catbarf is entirely correct to criticize these parts of the bible. even if they are meant metaphorically (which they clearly aren`t) HOW THE drat CAN YOU EVEN BEGIN TO DEFEND THIS DISGUSTING EVIL BIGOTED poo?!

  52. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    also, in Christianity, we are taught to forgive our enemies and our friends indefinitely, somewhere in Mathews we find Jesus saying that, so we`re not trying to be bigoted. Christianity may seem ignorant, but it`s only those who misinterpret the Bible, people who don`t look at the Bible as a whole happen to mess things up.
  53. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm
    and usually the people stated above are in power, which yeah, that does lead to quite a few problems. but it`s not our fault, if it wasn`t christianity, it could be something worse. maybe a power hungry atheist dictator? a jew with a bit of angst and lust for revenge? a radical muslim? ok maybe not a buddhist. maybe we shoudl all just convert to buddhism to solve our problems.
  54. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    caboose, that is nonsense and you know it

    if that`s what atheists believed then what would state would predominantly atheist countries (like, oh, half of europe) be in?

    just because there isn`t a god doesn`t mean life is worthless! in many atheist`s eyes it means it is worth more

  55. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    This isn`t to every athiest here.. Just to the ones who find it necessary to push their own beliefs onto other people.. Intolorance goes both ways buddy.. I just love the way that it`s perfectly acceptable to rip on christians.. Something bothers you? Don`t listen.. Ignore it.. If someone tries to force it on you, go ahead and speak up for yourself.. But if something has absolutely nothing to do with you, than why trouble yourself with it?? No, you`d rather go around like bullies brandishing your awesome internet copy and paste skills and then try to pass it off as absolute truth and proof of your enlightenment? You know what, screw you and your faux intellectual BS.. You`re no better than any of the "christians" you fear so much.. Let`s face it, if you weren`t afraid, you wouldn`t give a damn about what they said.. I`m just sick of the crap..
  56. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    and.. just to lighten the mood a little.. I think people should do what the guy in the video did everywhere those people decide to protest.. That`d let them know that people aren`t taking them seriously
  57. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    (that was meant to refer to your first post, caboose)

    minjofu, you think the quotations catbarf made need to be tolerated?

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    cannibal151 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    here is the other part of the video where a member of the baptist church verbally attacks the guy who rick rolled them

    When Westbro attacks!

  59. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    hm.... what WOULD be the meaning of life? as science goes furthur on, we discover that happiness is just chemicals and hormones, feelings are just different impulses, so on, so forth. so the things that make you happy, is just one chemical moving from Point A to Point B. or maybe an electrical impulse. something of the sort. although you may find some other meaning, Christianity is the meaning I find. and well, rickrolling people. that`s good too.

    also, I don`t tolerate injustices and irrational killing, nor do i tolerate forcing people into anything. What I don`t like is when people generalize Christians into one big category of bigotry, I don`t think I`ve ever forced anyone into anything, and what I believe in are peace and the things Jesus taught. anything wrong with that?

  60. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    Do they harm you in any way? Or, are you simply offended? I`m not a fan of `Mein Kampf", or Satanism.. but do they trouble me to the point that I feel like I have to attack people who embrace the philosophies those two things encompass? Nope..
  61. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    if you weren`t afraid, you wouldn`t give a damn about what they said..

    this is 100% correct

    i dont give a poo what people believe, i do give a poo when i see reason to be afraid about how their beliefs affect me

    this is irrelevant to the x% of christians out there that dont elect leaders based on their religious views, which will inflict the limitations of those views onto me

    if you feel you are part of that %, i sincerely apologise if i have offended you

    anyone has a guess at what % that might be?

  62. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:50 pm
    The thing that gets me is that there are so many people here.. middle class american young people.. who never had to deal with oppression.. Who never had to live in a place where they weren`t garenteed the freedom to be who they are.. to say what they want.. to pursue their own `happiness`.. and they act as if a belief in God will be the thing that topples this country?? No.. if anything it`ll be an economic collapse.. Not a moral or spiritual one (if you believe in a `spirit`, that is)..
  63. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    Minjofu could be an atheist too for all i know, but I agree with his beliefs. He`s one of the few reasonable people that I see...
  64. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    RelaxEnjoy.. It`s cool.. ya know.. I myself prefer to elect people who have demonstrated that they have the best interest of their country in mind.. It`s been difficult this go round though, because honestly it seems like there`s so much pandering and two-faced hypocritical bull*hitting, I just don`t know who to vote for..

    and there seem to be a lot of christians in this form who don`t want obedience, or supreme rule.. they just want to be respected as people.. A spiritual belief is a strong thing, and becomes very personal.. You attack that part of a person, it makes them feel rotten.. Live and let live is the message..

  65. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    followers of mein kampf deserve everything they get (thankfully there isnt enough of these people left to have any effect on the world)
    (if being offended inst enough motivation to post on an internet forum i dont know what is)

    ill just take this moment to point people back my first post.. i was specifically referring to the quotations catbarf made, not the bible as a whole

    caboose, you are heading in the direction of a much more interesting and worthwhile discussion than what is currently a rather pointless (and seemingly misunderstood) argument, ill maybe follow it up after this post

  66. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    I`m a christian caboose.. lol.. Not hardcore like some.. but.. I believe there`s more to existence than what we can see..
  67. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 1:59 pm
    Oh, and the point of all of these religion posts on IAB is webtraffic.. thats it.. It keeps people here, and posting.. lol.. It`s a hot button issue..
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    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    Woah. I just now heard of these guys... WTF. This gives me the urge to shoot Phelps (I think that`s his name...) and use their "It`s a punishment from God for our acceptance of homosexuality" to explain it to them.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:17 pm
    "Of course .. it`s only free speech when you`re bashing someone.. It`s definately not free speech when you defend your belief system.. Right Catbarf??"

    It`s no longer free speech when you are trying to get your beliefs made into law, as is the unfortunate case in the US where religion has an extremely large amount of control.

    "hm.... what WOULD be the meaning of life? as science goes furthur on, we discover that happiness is just chemicals and hormones, feelings are just different impulses, so on, so forth. so the things that make you happy, is just one chemical moving from Point A to Point B. or maybe an electrical impulse. something of the sort. although you may find some other meaning, Christianity is the meaning I find. and well, rickrolling people. that`s good too."

    Believing in no god means I value my life and others lives more. If I kill someone, they aren`t going to live in paradise. And since I have no afterlife, I`ve got to make this one count.

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:18 pm
    To an atheist, life exists because it exists. That doesn`t mean it has no value or purpose.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    "from the Old testament, where God shows wrath to sin, Christians believe that humanity has been forgiven through Christ, so we`re not supposed to be persecuting others, we believe that no human is more "righteous" then the other in the actions that do. We are not supposed to be protesting other people`s faults when we have plenty of our own."

    Uh, no. As Jesus says in the Bible, `I come not to replace the teachings of your fathers and prophets, but to complete`. You insist that I ignore context. The Old Testament exists to provide context for the rest of the book. You can`t just say `We don`t follow that` and ignore half the teachings of the Bible.

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    "also, I don`t tolerate injustices and irrational killing, nor do i tolerate forcing people into anything. What I don`t like is when people generalize Christians into one big category of bigotry, I don`t think I`ve ever forced anyone into anything, and what I believe in are peace and the things Jesus taught. anything wrong with that?"

    People are fine. Their beliefs, not necessarily. I`ve got no issue with you or anyone else so long as they don`t act unreasonable- but I am against theism in general.

    Consider Russel`s teapot- If I were to suggest that there is a teapot (One too small for a telescope to see) currently sitting in the orbit between Earth and Mars, you could not disprove it. But if I were to state that I am absolutely convinced that exists beyond a shadow of a doubt, or that because it cannot be disproved it is illogical to deny it, would you not think me insane?

  73. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    "It`s no longer free speech when YOU are trying to get YOUR beliefs made into law, as is the unfortunate case in the US where religion has an extremely large amount of control."

    First off.. I`M not trying to get any of MY beliefs made into laws.. I haven`t heard one christian in response to any of your anti-christian rants say "there ought to be a law...".. Nope.. but I HAVE heard the phrase "they should outlaw religion"..

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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:24 pm
    And unlike belief in Russel`s teapot, religion is powerful, tax-exempt, and propagates through children too young to defend themselves. Teapot-believers don`t stone teapot-unbelievers, teapot-apostates, and teapot-infidels. Parents don`t warn their children against marrying people whose parents believe in more than one teapot. People who put the milk in first don`t kneecap those who put the tea in first, and vice versa.
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    "First off.. I`M not trying to get any of MY beliefs made into laws.. I haven`t heard one christian in response to any of your anti-christian rants say "there ought to be a law...".. Nope.. but I HAVE heard the phrase "they should outlaw religion".."

    I never specified you in particular, the `you` was meant as a third-party declaration.

    As for religion being outlawed- I`ve heard it suggested that atheists be declared enemies of the state. And which has caused more violence, grief, and bloodshed in human history? Religion or atheism?

    Yeah, we all know about those atheist suicide bombers- they go around blowing themselves up for no reason.

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    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    One more thing.. Spouting regurgitated theories from well known athiests will not change the mind of any true christian.. Most churches teach christians that they are likely to face a great deal of opposition/persecution.. It`s pointless to keep on this quest, and perhaps all of the energy, time, and research skills people put into disproving the existence of God or an afterlife would be better spent getting an education in medical research and inventing cures and treatments for diseases so the `one and only` life of themselves and others can go on as long as possible. It`d be a much nobler, and appreciated cause.. and something you`d definately be remembered for.. unlike faux intellectual rhetoric spouted on an internet forum.. which NO ONE will remember you for..
  77. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    "Yeah, we all know about those atheist suicide bombers- they go around blowing themselves up for no reason."

    When is the last time you heard of a christian suicide bomber? I mean, if I`m wrong about this I`m more than willing to admit it if you can present accurate proof.

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    April 4, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    "When is the last time you heard of a christian suicide bomber? I mean, if I`m wrong about this I`m more than willing to admit it if you can present accurate proof. "

    All religion is guilty, not just Christianity. Islam has suicide bombers and constant fighting in the Middle East. Christianity has the Crusades and Inquisition, among other events.

  79. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    noone in their right mind wants to outlaw religion

    please dont attack catbarf for using an example that has been used before, it is a good example and if it needs attacking, then go for it directly rather than catbarf for using it.

    noone really does research into disproving god, and the number that do are insignificant compared to the massive amount of money / effort put into proving god / spreading his word

    "faux intellectual rhetoric spouted on an internet forum.. which NO ONE will remember you for.."

    what? i dont think either mine or catbarfs motivation is to be remembered by IABers. we are merely making our views known and trying to have a discussion, my the same way you are

    simply because an example catbarf made has been made before doesnt make it a worthless example, however criticizing him because of it certainly is worthless; indeed your whole post above was pointless, and by extension: my post now.

    please lets end this line of discussion now
    no more p

  80. Profile photo of greyday
    greyday Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:46 pm
    RICK ROLL FTW!
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    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm
    no more personal attacks please
    (got cut off)

    christianity has all that poo in ireland, and in abortion clinics in the US

    again, noone cares about chrisianity specifically, just religion as a whole

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    April 4, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    "One more thing.. Spouting regurgitated theories from well known athiests will not change the mind of any true christian.. Most churches teach christians that they are likely to face a great deal of opposition/persecution.. It`s pointless to keep on this quest, and perhaps all of the energy, time, and research skills people put into disproving the existence of God or an afterlife would be better spent getting an education in medical research and inventing cures and treatments for diseases so the `one and only` life of themselves and others can go on as long as possible. It`d be a much nobler, and appreciated cause.. and something you`d definately be remembered for.. unlike faux intellectual rhetoric spouted on an internet forum.. which NO ONE will remember you for.."

    1. Perhaps, without religion, all the time spent mindlessly memorizing rhetoric in church can be put to better use.

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    2. It sure doesn`t take me much effort or time to type this, it`s not like I`m employed to do it.

    3.

  84. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    Relax, I wasn`t attacking him.. I`m calling attention to a persistant problem on this site.. and, using my own opinions to do so.. I don`t have a right to be heard, but you two do? Hmmm.. Hypocrisy runs thick in these parts..
  85. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    "Spouting regurgitated theories from well known athiests will not change the mind of any true christian"

    what would?


    ps. your "true" is superfluous, anyone that chooses to label themselves as christian, is a christian

  86. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    "1. Perhaps, without religion, all the time spent mindlessly memorizing rhetoric in church can be put to better use."

    I can`t say much for anyone else, but personally.. I haven`t been to church in almost 7 years.. yet I still consider myself a christian..

    and yeah.. I`m done with this line of talk.. I just realized I`m arguing with someone who is almost a decade or more younger than me. I have no idea what sort of terrible abuses christianity has heaped upon them.. That was foolish, immature, insensitive and I apologize. God bless..

  87. Profile photo of SpacemnSpiff
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    I was thinking about everything be said here about pushing ones belief onto someone else. Isn`t that kind of what a true Democracy is? Say I believe that my money that I`ve earned, shouldn`t be taken from me so it can go towards a national healthcare program that I believe won`t work, but the majority of people believe it would. So they elect someone who can make it into a law. Couldn`t that be considered forcing your beliefs on someone. I mean, if I don`t pay my taxes I can be thrown into jail. Too me it just seems everyone is trying to force something that they believe onto someone else. I know its not as black and white as that, but it was just a thought.
  88. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    aagh, minjofu you misunderstand me (or i misunderstand you)

    i wasn`t saying you don`t have a right to be heard, i was criticizing you for (what appeared to me) to be you saying we didnt have a right to be heard

    "Spouting regurgitated theories from well known athiests"
    "unlike faux intellectual rhetoric spouted on an internet forum.. which NO ONE will remember you for.."
    sounds like personal attacks to me
    and by that i mean, attacking the person making an argument rather than the argument itself

    i didnt mean "attack" in the hurtful sense

  89. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    "anyone that chooses to label themselves as christian, is a christian"

    Yeah, I`ll concede to that.. It`s looked upon differently when you`re actually IN christian circles.. Trust me, I know a few hardcores who belive I`ll be rotting in the pits of hell. My objection has nothing to do with the lack of a theist belief, but with the idea that in some way anyone who does practice or apply a religion to their everyday life is somehow less intelligent, or ignorant, and must be `saved`, or informed of their terrible mistake..


  90. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    "aagh, minjofu you misunderstand me (or i misunderstand you)
    i wasn`t saying you don`t have a right to be heard, i was criticizing you for (what appeared to me) to be you saying we didnt have a right to be heard"

    No.. I wouldn`t attack you as a human being.. and to be honest it`s not so much about wanting people to stop doing what their doing.. I know, it`s funny.. I sometimes feel the need to speak up for other people.. Which is likely what you feel the need to do as well.. and I respect that.. It`s a touchy feely notion perhaps, to want to see everyone being able to make their feelings known, and have those feelings respected, but you can`t blame a girl for trying ;)

  91. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    yeh, democracy is a pretty majorly flawed system spacemn, unfortunatly its the best one we have so we have to put up with it. on the whole, its not that bad. with public health care, its supposed to be for the good of the people (one i happen to believe) but gay marriage, there is no reason against it apart from a religious one.

    so to minjofu, THAT is one of the terrible abuses christianity has heaped upon me: forbidding me to marry (pretend for the moment i am gay)

  92. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:06 pm
    ah, atleast we cleared that up :) i agree entirely
  93. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:09 pm
    Now.. take this into consideration.. I believe in a God.. I believe in an afterlife.. I believe that Christ was the son of God..

    And.. I believe that two people who love each other, and want to be commited in mind, body, and spirit to each other should be allowed to do so.. The doctrinal side of my religion conflicts with this belief.. but, it doesn`t change the way I feel in my heart.. I don`t know what that means for me ultimately, but it`s not something I feel guilty about..

    If I, as a christian, feel this way.. I think it should be taken into consideration that many christians feel this way.. and so christianity as it is now, in this modern world, is as deserving of respect as those two people who wish to be married to each other.. I guess thats the point I`ve been trying to make all along..

  94. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    "If I, as a christian, feel this way.. I think it should be taken into consideration that many christians feel this way.. and so christianity as it is now, in this modern world, is as deserving of respect as those two people who wish to be married to each other.. I guess thats the point I`ve been trying to make all along.."

    I explained this to lilkrnboi1018 earlier. You`re fine. You have the freedom of mind to think rationally. But your religion (which you do not follow to the letter) is not good, since it preaches the opposite of what you do.

    I`ve got no quarrel with you, it`s just the religion you indirectly represent.

  95. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    thats good, but i hope you understand why religion angers me. there would be no problem if it didnt intrude on non believers personal lives
    (i dont even care about people preaching on the street, just when govt gets involved)

    it is a just pity that most people dont feel the same way as you minjofu :(

  96. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    Alright.. it`s cool.. and I`ve got no problem with you either Cat.. I just feel like sometimes there are a lot of strong forceful voices going against a certain group of people here.. and that someone needed to say something.. I`d do the same if I thought that a race of people was being treated unfairly.. or if a specific individual was being treated unfairly..

    and I realize how way off topic this has gotten.. LOL

  97. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    sorry, just to correct my post above:

    perhaps most people do feel the same way, it is a pity that the numbers of people that dont are still too great to allow legislators to raise the issues with confidence

  98. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    "thats good, but i hope you understand why religion angers me. there would be no problem if it didnt intrude on non believers personal lives
    (i dont even care about people preaching on the street, just when govt gets involved)"

    You know what Relax.. I completely understand that.. It bothers me a lot the way that people use people`s beliefs to control, or manipulate them.. I hate the way that evangelical preachers on television ask for money, or sell God SWAK (200 dollar donation buys you a piece of the `true cross`.. yeah, right.. a bottle of holy water.. uh huh..) .. It`s a perversion of a beautiful thing.. and condemnational preaching does more harm to the cause than good.. I`m sick of the hypocracy.. but I wont let it allow me to dump the whole idea of a creator, and an ultimate purpose and destiny..

  99. Profile photo of AFTERSHOCK
    AFTERSHOCK Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm
    NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP!
  100. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:28 pm
    yeh i am the same, but in a different way to (most?) people.

    i am very critical of christianity , but very forgiving of islam. i think i do this to try and counter out the massive cultural bias here (in reality i view them identically)

    on topic: RICKROLL LOL!!1


  101. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    Wanna hear something funny? I think we`re the "luke warm" sort spoken about in a few biblical passages.. lol.. It`s difficult all around..

    back on topic..

    I saw the episode of southpark last night about Canada going on strike.. It featured the chocolate rain guy, the numa numa guy, the laughing baby, the star wars kid, the dramatic chipmunk, and a few others.. BUT NO RICK ROLL!!! I was entertained, but a little disappointed.. lol

  102. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    "(200 dollar donation buys you a piece of the `true cross`.. yeah, right.. a bottle of holy water.. uh huh..) "

    im pretty sure it says somewhere in the bible that anything that comes into contact with a burnt offering becomes holy.... i could make a killing on ebay with some tapwater and a baked potato

  103. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm
    LOL .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9U882vxt...
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    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm
    At 102 comments, this forum is getting pretty drawn out. So, how about we just blame it on the jews and call it a day.
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    jxl180 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm
    By the way i`m jewish and was only joking.
  106. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:35 pm
    i was very tempted to reply "Intolorance goes both ways buddy"

    "im not your buddy, guy"
    but thought the reference would have been lost... my life is now full of regret :(

  107. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:35 pm
    "im pretty sure it says somewhere in the bible that anything that comes into contact with a burnt offering becomes holy.... i could make a killing on ebay with some tapwater and a baked potato"

    I`d buy it, but I already blew my whole paycheck on the "jesus tortilla" :P

  108. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:36 pm
    "im not your buddy, guy"
    but thought the reference would have been lost... my life is now full of regret :(


    LOL.. I woulda got it.. see the above youtube video .. LOL

  109. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    SEEE.. NO RICKROLL!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bnZ5oRyd...
  110. Profile photo of RelaxEnjoy
    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    perhaps rick is giving out the money?
  111. Profile photo of minjofu
    minjofu Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    Perhaps the majesty that is Rick Astley is just too much for the South Park crew to fathom.. or it`s just a fad that popped up after the episode was made.. lol..

    either way I have every confidence that Rick has given out `something` in his lifetime :P

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    Monsdurr Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 4:03 pm
    Stupid. He should haveve played "What what (in the butt)" by Samwell.
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    astridhaze Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 4:15 pm
    For a minute, I wondered if the guy with the hawk was my brother... `cause he would totally do that.

    But it wasn`t.

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    MagicFerret Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm
    That Westboro Church.. ugh.. I want to kick Phelps in the nuts.. well, if he has nuts, that is..
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    MarthFador Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 5:23 pm
    Here`s an idea: Make it illigal to tell anyone what religion you are unless they ask, you`re in your own home, or in your place of worship! Then we won`t have any of this bothering us!

    As for the video....I`m going to have to find a place to download this song, put it on my iPod, and blare it walking down the street in a `You just got Rick Rolled!` tee shirt! Then i`ll be annoying EVERYONE! :D

  116. Profile photo of jakeman203
    jakeman203 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 5:34 pm
    The thing is about REAL Christians is that we are not supposed to judge non-Christians... It says so In I Corinthians chapter 5 verse 12!
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    sixclaws13 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 6:17 pm
    I have a new hero.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 7:36 pm
    "The thing is about REAL Christians is that we are not supposed to judge non-Christians... It says so In I Corinthians chapter 5 verse 12!"

    No, you`re supposed to execute them as infidels, and at the same time not judge them. Welcome to the wonderful world of hypocrisy and contradiction.

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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    April 4, 2008 at 7:57 pm
    They held a "protest" at my husband`s cousins funeral. The city rerouted all traffic four blocks early and barricaded all the streets within visible distance of the church. Nobody had to even look at those douche bags. The Patriot Guard riders did a very good job leading the procession and making sure the grave services went smoothly and uninterrupted. Some states now have laws that place restrictions on "protests" during funerals as well. Though I must admit none of that is quite as catchy as a good Rick Roll. =^.^=
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    catlikegrace Female 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm
    I get so tired of the religious debates that happen on here. I guess I always saw this site as a place for lighthearted distraction from boredom...anyway...

    Let`s all enjoy watching the silly man annoy the Westboro Baptists. We can all agree that those people are awful, right?

  121. Profile photo of Vogt
    Vogt Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 9:53 pm
    By watching this video...you just got rick roll`d.


    Owned!

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    thats_nifty Female 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:51 pm
    I agree with Monsdurr. Lol.
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    April 4, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    Im thinking of rick`rolling everybody at school by playing it over the intercom.
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    jakeman203 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2008 at 11:36 pm
    catbarf....yeah not sure where you get that from.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 6:06 am
    Check on page two where I cite my sources.
  126. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 6:06 am
    Your own religion requires execution for even some of the smallest crimes.
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    SpacemnSpiff Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 6:35 am
    EnjoyRelax- Government provided universal healthcare would be horrible to have in the US. They (US Gov.) would have all my private medical info and be able to say what doctor I should see. A doctor would have a hard time starting a private practice. People who take care of themselves would have to pay for the ones who don`t. Malpractice lawsuit costs, which are already sky-high, could further explode since universal care may expose the government to legal liability, and the possibility to sue someone with deep pockets usually invites more lawsuits. And there isn`t a single government agency or division that runs efficiently; I really don`t want an organization that developed the U.S. Tax Code handling something as complex as health care.
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    Noobfruit Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm
    I love that guy now <3
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    superfish Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm
    i dont understand.....
  130. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    "No, you`re supposed to execute them as infidels, and at the same time not judge them. Welcome to the wonderful world of hypocrisy and contradiction."

    What the passages were trying to say, they`re pointing towards destroying evil, rather then the people themselves. Their is more meaning behind the passages, God is not trying to have us kill people who are infidels, because if that`s the case, we`d have to kill ourselves as well. We believe (or at least should) that every Christian is just as sinful as an athiest.

    Also, what is the purpose to living this life, if it`s just a circle of ups and downs? Why would i live it if the only reason to live is just to meet some other meat/water bags and to congregate meat/water bags and to die with these meat/water bags?

  131. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 2:00 pm
    "Uh, no. As Jesus says in the Bible, `I come not to replace the teachings of your fathers and prophets, but to complete`. You insist that I ignore context. The Old Testament exists to provide context for the rest of the book. You can`t just say `We don`t follow that` and ignore half the teachings of the Bible."

    From what you`ve said, either I worded my answer badly or you misinterpreted. We Christians believe each and every part of the Bible as important as the other. The Old testament is context to the New testament, we believe in the things Jesus say, the Old Testament builds up to him. Christians follow the things he does, so in the old testament, God told us to kill, but in the new, all humans, including non-christians are forgiven for their actions. We Christians should not do any harm, we were taught by Jesus to love our enemies, to do onto others as we want done to ourselves (please don`t say your emo), and we believe that each person Christians included are just

  132. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    sinful as the next. Old testament is just as important, but the laws provided are just context before Jesus, the reason why we still don`t burn animals as an offering is because we believe everyone has been forgiven, no human should be killed for their actions because every human is forgiven.
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    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 2:02 pm
    That`s what CHristians should believe, although not all do, and because of bad punctuation and lack of editing, I`m sure a lot of things i`ve said will be misinterpreted. Oh well. Time to laugh at people getting hurt on collegehumor.com
  134. Profile photo of tictocmonkey
    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    Thankyou caboose. You said exactly what I was thinking while reading this forum. I am a christian and I hate what the westboro Baptist church do, say and believe, as do all of the christians I know who have spoken about them. Please understand that most christians are reasonable, moderate people who respect the beliefs of others and do not try and ram their beliefs down people`s throats. When a christian goes on TV or whatever and shouts some extreme view please do not assume they stand for all christains. I realise, however, that you all do not think most christians agree with westboro baptist church. The law of the old testament existed because man sinned and had to make up for it by its actions, but christians believe that because Jesus died the law was completed and man was forgiven because of Jesus and not through following the law. I hope that clears some stuff up for you catbarf. I do not want to get into a huge drawn out debate about all this, i just want all beliefs, atheism
  135. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    April 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm
    i`m pretty sure he got cut off and didn`t realize it... he wants all beliefs to co-exist peacefully?

    anyway, wats up with rickrolling lately? last month i`ve been rickroll`d at least 15 times, last year, i didn`t even know what it was..

  136. Profile photo of tictocmonkey
    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm
    included, to be respected.

    And remember that just because someone tells you about their beliefs, it doesnt mean they are ramming it down your throats and you dont have to listen. Also, in response to an earlier comment saying that christians should not say that only their faith is true, the truth of one religion rules out the truth of another. Truth is absolute, two things that contradict eachother cannot both be true. My faith says their is only one God and tells me not to accept the existence of another God, therefore I cannot accept that another faith is true. I will respect this other faith, but I cannot say it is true.

    thankyou for reading
    XD

    p.s. "Never gonna give you up..." HILARIOUS!

  137. Profile photo of tictocmonkey
    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    Yes...i got to my charecter limit and had to continue on another one.

    sorry

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    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2008 at 5:04 pm
    maybe youre right spacemanspiff, all i know is: if they they tried to take away national health care in my country they would have a drating riot on their hands.


    caboose, maybe that is what the bible is TRYING to say, but that is not what it DOES say. it does say that you should execute the people.
    this may not be the intended interpretation, but the book being the only evidence we have, any interpretation is correct. (given the historical context it was written in, probably the literal interpretation is the intended one)

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    liztherocker Female 13-17
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    April 6, 2008 at 3:18 am
    Stop being so narrow minded.
  140. Profile photo of tictocmonkey
    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 6, 2008 at 4:55 am
    It is what the bible says:

    "Now it is clear that no one can be made right with God by the law, because the scriptures say, `those who are right by God will live by trusting in Him`. The law is not based on faith. It says, `A person who obeys these things will live because of them.` Christ took away the curse the law put on us. He changed places with us and put himself under that curse. It is written in the scriptures, `Anyone whose body is displayed on a tree is cursed.` Christ did this do that God`s blessing promised to Abraham might come through Jesus Christ to those who are not Jews. Jesus died so that by our believing we could receive the spirit that God promised." - Galatians 2:11-14

    The law was written for the Jews. We are not commanded to follow it any more. You have read these parts of the bible but not understood them. We are free of the curse of sin which is the law because Jesus died. That is the message of the Bible. If we were supposed to follow it now, Jesus

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    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 6, 2008 at 4:58 am
    would not have said, "You have heard that it was said `An eye for an eye, A tooth for a tooth.` But I tell you don`t stand up against an evil person. If someone slaps your right cheek turn to him the other cheek aswell." - Matt. 5:38-39
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    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 6, 2008 at 5:09 am
    And in response to the "you are commanded to stone adulterers argument:

    "They said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught having sexual relations with a man who is not her husband. The law of Moses commands that we stone to death every woman who does this. What do you say we should do?" They were asking this to trick Jesus so that they could have some charge against him.
    But Jesus bent over and started writing on the ground with his finger. When they continued to ask Jesus their question, he raised up and said, "Anyone here who has never sinned can throw the first stone at her."" - John 8: 4-7

    Also: "Don`t judge other people, or you will be judged. You will be judged in the same way that you judge others, and the amount you give to others will be given to you.
    "Why do you notice the little piece of dust in your friend`s eye, but you don`t notice the big piece of wood in your own eye?" Matt. 7:1-3

    We are not called

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    tictocmonkey Male 18-29
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    April 6, 2008 at 5:10 am
    to judge others by the bible, we are called to forgive them.

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