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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 23, 2008 at 12:38 pm
    Link: Hip-Hop Stars to be Outed in New Book - Former music-industry insider is throwing hip-hop singers out of the closet. Right? Wrong? Anyone want odds on Eminem?
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:35 pm
    ha gotta love pop-culture...
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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    good lord. i hope kanye isnt cuz i love that guy. how about those sad-excuses-for-rappers ex: soulja boy? im mean, he`s gotta be as gay as his lyrics, guarantee!
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    DaPalooka Female 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    I honestly dont care about pop culture. But, intersting none the less.
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    Didn`t really read the article, title says it all.

    like an actor said, "who hasn`t had homosexual sex who is big named? some people just require you to sleep with them to get any where. Does it make me gay, you decide, but I see myself as straight who had to make some odd business decisions."

    with that, I`m sure that some of the "thuggiest" rappers have slept with other men, be it a "prison rape" or casual experimentation while high. we are getting in society where everyone feels they have to try being gay/lesbian.

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    mluther Male 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    i was hopping there wouldn`t be to many gay posts on here. i guess i was wrong.
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    DaPalooka Female 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    MNJ_gudluv:
    Agreed. I hate Soulja Boy.
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    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    Fancylad...I`m curious as to who tipped you off to this. You really don`t seem like the Queerty type. LOL
    Kanye probably is. But I`m suprised to see no mention of Tyrese anywhere so far. Rumors have surrounded his sexuality for YEARS, including one that his NFL star boyfriend`s name is tattooed on him somewhere.
    Outing people invoulentarily is kinda shady. But if their music and public views are homophobic, as most rap is, I have no problem with them being exposed.
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    ha yeah i could careless about popular culture either... but meh seems to be shoved down our throats as "news-worthy" nonetheless
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    *rolls eyes* not very suprised with a few....
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    citadel Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:51 pm
    haha ther all homos
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    silv134 Male 30-39
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:52 pm
    I met usher once in vegas and I always thought he was a little gayish, not saying I seen him kissing a dude, but seemed gay-ish....just saying
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 1:56 pm
    As a foremost expert on Rap and hip-hop this is a big thing. It is a lot easier for a conservative to say he`s gay than it is for a rapper. There are no gay rappers, the rap culture just wont allow that.
    Once I read this the first person I thought of is Kanye West. He has fought for gay rights and his lyrics are pretty gay. BTW I think he is the worst rapper alive, Bush has more street cred than him.

    Eminem, I don`t really see it but I can`t say I wont be surprised.
    Chi-town rap is where I would say you have to look at it. West coast is gangsta, east coast is notorious, the south is hood, chi-town is very poetic. Actually im surprised Kanye and Common even qualify as rap.
    And I do expect many R&B artist to appear like Omarion and Chris Brown (I dont care who they have dated).

    Soulja Boy I can ALMOST guarantee will not be there. Except for a close friendship with Arab there is nothing that will point to him. And people who dont like Crank dat normally have no dancing a

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:00 pm
    *ability.

    Usher is quite possible. And im pretty sure R.Kelly will not be there.

    Hip-hop is a culture that has made rappers famous with lyrics like "No homo but we c*ckin them"- Juelz Santana or "No homo but we harder than erections" lil wayne.

    I really hope Kanye appears and maybe then people will stop listening to him. He is a producer, not a rapper. How many samples must he take?

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    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    So what if they`re gay?

    What is the big deal?

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    Camelnoise Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    "As a foremost expert on Rap and hip-hop this is a big thing"

    Really now. Self proclaimed expert

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    Camelnoise Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:11 pm
    Estilo,

    IT seems to me black culture is probably the gayest of all cultures. They were the first to wear pink and think its cool (its not, ever) ...they wear their jeans around their ankles, which originates from prison. It was basically easy access for anyone who wanted to pound them...Im not racist, just an observation.

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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:16 pm
    primetime, i dont even know how you can SAY midwest rap doesnt qualify as real rap! their lyrics have substance and thought and come from real experience. if anything the south has the worst rappers witht exception of ti, lil wayne, and ludacris. all southern rappers talk about is how many hoes they got, how much money they got and how big their rims are. just because rappers have a "poetic" style doesnt make them gay, alright? your closemindedness and inability to see southern rap for how crappy it really is says everything: you are DEFINITELY not an expert on rap OR hip hop.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:18 pm
    Yes, it is a self-proclamation. Can anyone really argue that though?

    And hip-hop isn`t black, its worldwide. Jeans around ankles comes from the guards taken away their belts and shoelaces. How is that gay? You better do research before you comment.

    And Estilo, homophobia is essential for all rap artist. Its taboo in hip-hop to be gay. They will get absolutely no radio play if they are found to be gay. Well... Kanye will still get radio play because its a different market.

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    primetimekin, man you aint no expert on anything. what are you talking about `West coast is gangsta, east coast is notorious, the south is hood, chi-town is very poetic`

    east coast is notorious? lol? whered you get that from? OH BIGGIE, HA. hes dead, who do they have left thats `notorious` HA.

    south is hood? ok, no, who you been listening to, lil wang? HA

    you another kid who THINKS he knows the inner workings of hip hop, but really only knows or thought about or read on some website about some stuff kanyes been doing, and dont know SQUAT. quit acting like you an `EXPERT` man

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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    and for the record, people with REAL dancing ability have enough skill and capacity to dance to their OWN style. if anything, people who do the souljah boy dance DONT HAVE DANCING ABILITY because they have to follow the choreography of some STUPID DANCE.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    ^ ha, i know that `from the guards taken away their belts and shoelaces` , the hell you talkin about shoelaces. who uses shoelaces as belts man, how does that contribute to sagging pants.

    maybe they sag their pants because they ass hurts from that shower last week

  23. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:21 pm
    MNJ, because "Stronger" has substance? Because being a sample artist has substance? And experience? No one in the game has more experience than Trick Daddy, Young Jeezy, and Scarface. I`ll take Southern Smoke and Empire mixtapes over songs about a skateboard. The only good midwest rapper is Twista and he hasn`t made anything good since Spit Yo Game
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    proof1221 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:22 pm
    soulja boy and eminem are gay. eminem blows soulja boy while halie videotapes it
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    Probably fancylad got a tip-off from my link earlier, on the gay lyrics topic. Though the ad on queerty was interesting :)
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:23 pm
    chode, east coast has Dipset and Cassidy. They are still notorious.

    And all dances are based on previously choreographed movement. Most people who dont like Soulja Boy aren`t capable of doing those movements themselves

    And if you take away their belts, naturally their pants will sag.

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:25 pm
    primetime, how can you say `trick daddy and young jeezy have the most experience in the game`?

    trick daddy has no hits, and jeezy came out in like 2000, did you forget about snoop? he been rockin it since `90 and he just dropped an album weeks ago.

    i dont blame you though, all youve known all your life is hippop.

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    dipset fell the hell OFF, as if they ever had it goin on.

    and cassidy is nothing to talk about, boy can freestyle but his records are nothing special

    i really want you, mr. expert, to list me some rappers YOU think are `hip`hop.

  29. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:28 pm
    Trick has been runnin Miami for a while now. Music is secondary to him. And Jeezy is the hardest rapper out there. Snoop was good but he killed it with Sensual Seduction.


    Kanye is a joke. Ask anyone in the game. Common and Lupe do get respect from people; Common needs to loose Kanye and Lupe needs to make a few more songs until "Kick Push" becomes forgotten.


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    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    "As a foremost expert" of all things Queer (get over yourself, Prime), I agree that this IS a big thing. He`s also right that it`s easier for a conservative to come out of the closet. Strangely, the Fundies are more forgiving than rap culture. Rappers have to make themselves out to be as macho as possible. Anything gay could possibly and eroneously feminize them. But being gay doesn`t make you any less macho. Just look at Rock Hudson, James Dean, or Steve McQueen. Some of the most macho men Hollywood has ever given us have been gay or bisexual. The problem is that when the general public hears the word Gay, they think flaming queens...which are only a small part of the gay community. They just happen to be the most noticable. It`ll be interesting to see who`s careers change because of this misconception.
    "Thug culture is based on prison culture, and prison culture is really really gay." Even the whole pants sagging around your butt came from prison - to show you
  31. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    Real rappers
    East Coast:
    Cassidy (best freestyle in the game)
    Dipset Cams last album was aiight
    One.Be.Lo
    Jay-Z
    South:
    T.i.
    Wayne
    Jeezy
    Trick Daddy
    Three 6 Mafia

    These are to name a few. West coast fell off the map completely but I forgot this name of an artist that is West that I hear is good

  32. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    to show you are "easy access" geeze, why do my comments keep getting split?
  33. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:33 pm
    and pants sagging comes from loosing your belts not butt-drating
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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    ANY IDIOT CAN DO THE SOULJA BOY DANCE. now, whoever choreographs dances for other artists, now THATS skill. i agree with you, young jeezy is pretty skilled, but since when does rapping about cars, women, and money have stubstance? IT HAS NO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. why do i say that? cuz every other rapper talks about that stupid poo. everyone knows rappers have a lot of money. why drill it into their heads over and over? WE GET IT. talk about something that has meaning. you know, kanye may be a sample rapper, but he takes it and turns it into something worth listening to. rap nowadays is so generic and lifeless, the only thing that matters is having a good beat. what happened to having good lyrics? rappers like kanye, common, talib, and mos def are preserving that. southern rappers are the worst, i swear.
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    Camelnoise Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    "And if you take away their belts, naturally their pants will sag. "

    ME DO MY RESEARCH???

    Gueards dont take theirt belts away. They are simply not allowed to wear them. That and oversized garb contributed to sagging pants, but it really kicked off homosexuality as well, naturally. So either the person wearing them is advertising the fact that people in jail are cool (that we pay tax dollars for their stupid asses) or they are gay.,..ur choice.

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    Cassidy, freestyle, ill give you that one
    Dipset, no
    One.Be.Lo ill give you that one
    Jay-Z alright

    TI alright, but what he gonna do now? he in hella jail
    WANG? HAHAHAH
    Jeezy, sometimes a lil bit
    No.
    HAHA, HAVE U HEARD THEIR LAST SONG? what was it..LOLLI LOLLI ,, HAHAH. they hella sold out,. never liked em anyway

    west coast fell off? ice cube is making a new album. LOL

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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:37 pm
    since when is "soulja boy up in this OOOOO, while we crankin while we ROOOOOLL....YOOUUUUU crank dat souljah boy YOUUUUUU..."

    GOOD LORD any FIVE YEAR OLD can write those lyrics. no intellectual capacity to speak of. id like to think rappers are good with words and are witty in that sense, but souljah boy and other rappers with his style exhibit NO EVIDENCE OF WIT OR WISDOM whatsoever, and its pretty pathetic.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    Talib is good. Mos def is too political and is a better actor than rapper.

    Kanye? O.J. and Isotoners is not substance.

    Its all about wordplay, and thats what the South has.
    "I cover my track like butter so where the bread be. I see beef as dead meat." Thats sick.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:40 pm
    I agree soulja boy shows no wit (with the exception of maybe throw some D`s on that bitch) but people like him as a choreographer not a rapper. He isn`t a rapper, dont put him in that category.

    And Wayne gets a pass for lollipop. He just made that song to sell Tha Carter 3

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    Mos def is too political? i guess you`re feeble mind couldnt handle it?

    "Food for though so get a buffet plate
    The lyrics are so fat you might gain weight",

    Inspectah Deck`s entire first verse from `Triumph`, ooh but wait, do you even know who that is? i didnt think so clown

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    eladrelkce Male 30-39
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    Maybe the gay lyrics story yesterday were meant to be gay
  42. Profile photo of MNJ_gudluv
    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:45 pm
    ok, if souljah boy shouldnt be put in the rapper category THEN WHY IS HE RAPPING?? just like lil jon, they both SUCK FAT BALLS. there are a select few southern rappers that are tight on the wordplay, i will admit, but thats not what the south is known for. a lot of people would say east coast is good with wordplay. i respect your opinions but you CANNOT out midwest rap and say you cant count it as rap. i still say southern rap is still rap, just a sad excuse for rap. a lot of the artists coming from there are giving rap and hip hop a bad name. im not saying there arent bad rappers from other parts of the US, but theres been a lot of artists coming out lately who happen to be from the south, and they just SUCK. it boggles my mind as to how they possibly got a record deal with that little amount of skill.
  43. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:51 pm
    Yeah political rap is annoying. Thats why I dont listen to immortal technique or prodigy. I heard prodigys BET freestyle and all I heard was Freemasons and Illuminati.

    And I really aint into Wu-tang. They`re just not my thing.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    Lil Jon is the same as Kanye, a good PRODUCER. No one actually thinks WHAT? YEAH! As rap. And what southern artist are giving rap a bad name?
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:54 pm
    ^ LOL, lil john cant even do a song by himself, what, snap your fingas? was that solo? i dont even care, it was terrible, fun, but bad.

    what southern artists are giving rap a bad name? well all of them

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm
    HAHAH just looked up snap yo fingas, its featuring two other people, NVM LOL
  47. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    Sean P is a beast. And E-40 comes out with good songs everyone once in awhile....maybe...
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    ^ theres no reasoning with you,

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=8nVzSr3yDcA

    watch that and google the lyrics and read along because i honestly dont think you could even keep up with it

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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    fat joe, rich boy, chingy, nelly HELLA fell off, field mobb...i would say they ALL give rap a bad name except for ludacris, maybe TI if that f*cker wasnt in jail, and wayne. dude, where have you been this whole time?? everyone bags on how bad southern rap is. its so bad i can even stand it most of the time.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    up till now, i agreed with you MNJ

    rich boy is garbage, but his last song on his only album made me have a shred of respect for him

    wang not giving rap a bad name? what wayne have you been listening to?

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    PandaCookies Female 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    "There are no gay rappers, the rap culture just wont allow that"

    The army dosent allow gays either but that dosent stop them. You cant know if someone is gay or not unless they act or say theyre gay. The rap culture dosent allow that because theyre ignorant and wrapped up in the image where you have to have money cars and hoes. However that dosent mean they arent gay, it just means that they act not-gay.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    Chode, hearing that makes me think Wow, One.Be.Lo had really crappy producers.

    Fat Joe is starting to comeback and he is east coast. Chingy.... yeah. He is technically Midwest but yeah thats south. Nelly did fall off. I blame the song Tip Drill and no one wanting to play him anymore. But Country Grammar was hot when it dropped. Rich Boy has hits. Throw Some D`s, Boy Looka Here, Get to Poppin. Plus he had that BET Freestyle that was sick. Field Mob.... yeah he sucks.

    And T.I. is still going to have an album this year, Paper Trail

  53. Profile photo of MNJ_gudluv
    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    chode, ive been listening to pre-lollipop wayne. you have to admit, he has skill when he`s not selling out.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:10 pm
    Fat Joe is starting to comeback? HAHAH. his last album basically dug his own grave

    and yeah mnj, now that i think about it, i was actually a semi-wayne fan last year. he does have some clever metaphors, and his delivery really is unique. Rich boy only has hits because hes what the majority of the rap population enjoy, LIKE U.

  55. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    Wayne has the best metaphors in the game.
  56. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    & really, why do you have to categorize every artist? west coast mid west east coast south, im surprised you havent mentioned the bay area.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    i said wayne does have SOME clever metaphors, but that last line you quoted, lemme find it ,

    "I cover my track like butter so where the bread be. I see beef as dead meat."

    so he gets money, yeah ok, oh so he doesnt get into any beefs?

    really thats as shallow as it gets, i doubt you`ve ever listened to a song where you have to pause and rewind and actually analyze the underlying message.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    Bay area? Hyphy rap is okay. But I haven`t really listened to bay area since Luniz
  59. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm
    maybe a little e-40
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:17 pm
    no he sees beef as no competition
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    PandaCookies Female 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:17 pm
    Personally i like Young Jezzy. He makes me laugh
    "And don`t talk to square niggaz, you know, spongebobs"
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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    dude, that is SO true, which is what i meant by kanye and all them having substance, because you actually have to decipher the hidden meaning. "stronger" is more of an inspirational track, rather than having substance. and may i add lupe fiasco to the list cuz that dude i hella sick too, you know, since prime wants to bag on artists that write about skateboards. open your mind man, its NOT about the skateboard! listen to the track because he`s another one of those artists that have underlying meanings in their songs.
  63. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:19 pm
    anyway, your problem is all you`ve been exposed to, and all you`re willing to notice is mainstream

    lemme guess, you think mixtapes are underground.

    wayne has lyrics, but really, yeah i agree wayne PROBABLY put out lollipop to get some more attention, as if he needed anymore, but come on, theres no excuse for the lyrics

    "Told her to back it up like erp erp
    And make that *** jump like shczerp shczerp"

    if he was really true to himself, he`d make lollipop commercialized enough that it brought in more consumers but still kept his previous fans happy with lyrics that actually MADE SENSE.

    wayne has the lyrics, but just chooses not to use them.

    it must be that sizzurp finally getting to him.

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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:19 pm
    and hyphy rap AND dance is F*CKEN GAY AS HELL. hyphy dancing is worse than the souljah boy dance! it doesnt take a genius to jump and wail your arms around. LONG LIVE BREAKDANCING!!!
  65. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    Yeah blah blah blah trouble and hard times blah blah criticism haters blah blah just go through it blah blah. In the end its still about a skateboard
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    again to me substance would be Hustlers Muzik or Live in the Sky. not no skateboarding song. I`ll admit Superstar isn`t bad but the chorus was annoying
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:23 pm
    ill put one song that is recent, just because you SHOULD know it.

    Lupe fiasco - the coolest

    from his previous album, hes been talking about his fictitious character somewhat based on himself, called Michael, (my cool, michael, get it?)

    listen to the lyrics, who is he referring to as `her`? the streets. the streets can make him a king, they can give him all the money he can imagine. together they could do anything. the streets will never leave him,

    all in all its about the hustler`s mentality when hes out in the streets

    to full understand the complete message, youd have to listen to the cool from his previous album, and the die, and analyze them too.

  68. Profile photo of MNJ_gudluv
    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    ^^^and that just says a lot about your "expertise" and your unwillingness to listen to music that actually took skill to write. lupe fiasco is an amazing artist, and its just sad that youve stereotyped "poetic" hip hop as "gay".
  69. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    I cant really listen to Lupe until kick push goes into a small little corner of my mind. Its like a mouse eating electrical cheese over and over again.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:25 pm
    why are you so hung up on kick push? ill admit i dont like it either but its what got him his inital fame
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm
    Its one of those I cant get past. I was able to get past fat joe`s Lean Back but I cant with Kick Push. Its just stuck there.
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:28 pm
    fat joe sucks dude, trick daddy sucks
  73. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    trick daddy is the poo. Tuck Ya Ice in, Bet that, he`s sick. The reason he doesnt make as many songs is because Rap isn`t his primary source of income
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    MNJ_gudluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    seriously, "kick push" doesnt define who lupe is as an artist. it may be a bad track to you, prime, but its like i said before, you lack openmindedness. you think just because he came out with one "bad" track, that all his tracks automatically suck. and id hate to say this, but i think youre a little biased because youre from the south.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    I can normally get past an artist first song. It just doesnt happen with kick push
  76. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    so what is trick daddy`s primary source of income
  77. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    Lets just say he controls Miami
  78. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:36 pm
    thats way too ambiguous, what does he control a drug ring in miami? is he an infamous drug lord? he doesnt control anything.

    & btw, what did you mean one be lo had bad producers, because of the beat? theres nothing wrong with the beat. so in your opinion, a song is well produced if it has a flashy beat right? thats what i thought. sometimes a simple beat is used to emphasize the topic being discussed.

    thats the whole point of `triumph`, there was hardly a beat. that was the point. 6 minutes of lyrical genius

  79. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    A beat is just as necessary as the lyrics. Its the complete package. One.Be.Lo has gotten better because he has better producers. Look at the Ghetto. It had lyrics and beat. Even Rakim who is the best pure lyricist had decent beats
  80. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:38 pm
    if you want a history lesson, ill give you one

    Decades ago, rap was a largely unnoticed genre, flourishing mostly underground, and without much commercial success. The commercial success common people are receiving today for simply saying slang words is disgusting and is ultimately the genre’s downfall.

    http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=19543

    instead of typing everything this man says, ill just link it. He makes the most sense of any explanation I’ve ever heard about the subject.

    The only way to know what hip hop is is to live it, to have been there when it first starting coming out with simple beats, and corner rapping just for fun.

    The reason so many people are against rap is because all they’ve been exposed to is the commercialized garbage that’s being glorified right now. Right now “snap and dance” music is hot, but it will die down eventually. Times are changing. T-Pain i

  81. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:39 pm
    Underground is where hip hop flourished, and it is where it continues to flourish to this day. Good rap varies due to taste. some people like the flashy beats and loud yelling because that’s what they’ve been brought up to enjoy. Some people like mellow storytelling with a simple beat and a soulful singer on the chorus.

    Now, to anyone who wishes to educate themselves, although im not expecting any of you to be honest, copy and paste the url.
    Here is a list of rappers that covers the broadest of sub-genres, included are the artist, my personal favorite song by the artist, and a link to youtube.
    AZ – I feel for you - http://youtube.com/watch?v=l_sqK7ompR0
    Big Daddy Kane - Symphony Vol. 1 (not on youtube)
    Binary Star – Honest Expression - http://youtube.com/watch?v=8nVzSr3yDcA
    Black Sheep – The Choice is Yours - <

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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:39 pm
    Blackalicious – Blazing Arrow - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bdxcc2o7ZCc
    Camp Lo – Luchini - http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZtqwFdT0RS4
    Cunninlynguists – 616 Rewind - http://youtube.com/watch?v=2ykw0hQehxw
    De La Soul – Millie Pulled a Pistol on Santa - http://youtube.com/watch?v=_duFqVxv3uY
    Del Tha Funkee Homosapien/Deltron 3030 – Madness - http://youtube.com/watch?v=v_HW_AQiKkc
    Digable Planets – Where I’m From - http://youtube.com/watch?v=d7TXb-_fUiU
    Dr. Dre – The Watcher - http://yo
  83. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    Jurassic 5 – Back 4 You - http://youtube.com/watch?v=jYma_rXJ6rc (&#61663;--- Live)
    KRS-One – Mortal Thought - http://youtube.com/watch?v=qkbvyUuOrNk
    MF Doom – Benzi Box - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRifZDcZ8bw
    Nas – The World is Yours - http://youtube.com/watch?v=mYZ_RD--Lpg
    Naughty By Nature – OPP - http://youtube.com/watch?v=4FWI_fLkw3k
    Notorious B.I.G. – My Way of Life - http://youtube.com/watch?v=21RIiLLf_Pk
    Ol’ Dirty Bastard – Shimmy Shimmy Ya - http://youtube.com/wat
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    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    Whodini – Friends - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4NkyWXfofM
    Wu-Tang Clan – Triumph - http://youtube.com/watch?v=R8RtMSA_AAo
    Zion I – The Bay - http://youtube.com/watch?v=oByNhqlS3mY

    i included LOT Of mainstream tracks, just for you

    mwah

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    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    ". T-Pain is the new Nate Dogg, and the dirty South is the new West coast. "

    got cut off.

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    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:42 pm
    Ol’ Dirty Bastard – Shimmy Shimmy Ya - http://youtube.com/watch?v=6AYY4EqFBWM
    Pete Rock – T.R.O.Y. (They Reminisce Over You) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=wyk5Sb7ADi4
    Public Enemy – He Got Game - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rs6gNhx5A6E
    Rakim – Microphone Fiend - http://youtube.com/watch?v=icebvk4Ewq4
    Run DMC- Christmas in Hollis - http://youtube.com/watch?v=BKTPVl6q7bU
    Surreal – They Call Me - http://youtube.com/watch?v=GqecCL7eqW0
    Theory Hazit – Ghetto - http://youtube.com/watch?v=jNlw
  87. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    Tupac – Me Against the World - http://youtube.com/watch?v=2cjv7hEAytU

    a lot got cut off..

  88. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    Eminem – My Name Is - http://youtube.com/watch?v=CmdRauWVbwg
    The Gift of Gab – Ride On - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rn_YxB7sfWg
    GZA – Liquid Swords - http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZiQoVv0FSKQ
    Heavy D – (no stand out favorite)
    Ice Cube – Friday - http://youtube.com/watch?v=xA_NdaedMGk
    Immortal Technique – One (remix) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=81u9nxh8xtE
    Inspectah Deck – That Ni**a – (not on youtube)
  89. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    AZ is good. Cunninglynguist has 1 good song and a name that sounds like they made in 6th grade. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien. Worst.Name.Ever.

    Most of the artist there are good but hip-hop has evolved from simple corner rapping. Snap will change but that doesnt mean it isn`t a crucial part of rap. And yes T-Pain does suck.

    And what Andre said is true, but with that said, the first thing I think about are umbrellas. They couldn`t put Big Boi or someone else could they?

  90. Profile photo of Kalimdon
    Kalimdon Male 18-29
    114 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    If listening to classical music makes you smarter, does it follow suit that rap makes you dumber?
  91. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7936 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:48 pm
    Cant you say the same about rock, or pop, or any music post 1900s?
  92. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    this discussion could go on for weeks. many subgenres of hip hop glorify getting shot and getting arrested and thrown in prison, but you can also say rock is for drug abusers and devil worshippers
  93. Profile photo of gothic_roses
    gothic_roses Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 4:02 pm
    and this is why I listen to rock and metal...ppl don`t care if ppl are gay...i mean look at Rob Halford and his band Judas Preist, he`s come out as gay and ppl still love him no matter what, Judas Priest is still going stron...and of course u have Queen with Freddie Mercury... so if these hip-hop and rap artists are gay, lets just hope the culture doesn`t go down in flames.
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    gothic_roses Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 4:03 pm
    strong*
  95. Profile photo of Pabasa
    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 4:08 pm
    "Good rap varies due to taste"

    Couldn`t have said it any better (well I probably can). End of discussion.

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    Razamire Female 18-29
    661 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm
    rofl "anti-gays love butt-sex"
    sooo true!!!
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    buttersisluv Female 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 4:35 pm
    I CAN`T WAIT!!!!!!!!
  98. Profile photo of MarthFador
    MarthFador Female 18-29
    1004 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    Wow. I`m not surprised at all. Any guy who color co-ordinates his clothes, has a different hat and shoes for every one of his outfits is quite metro to say the least. Not to mention the fact these guys seem to try to all wear the same color on the same day. "So what are you wearing? Blue? No, can`t, my blue is in the wash. How about green? Alright girl~friend!"
    These hard-core gangsta rapper folk are more feminine than I am. They just need to grow a pair of boobs and they`d be all set...
  99. Profile photo of tatervent
    tatervent Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 5:19 pm
    primetimekin is a retard
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    January16 Female 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 7:09 pm
    Seriously, who cares if someone is gay. I`m disappointed in your lameness Fancylad. This is sorta homophobic,and it just gets crap started.
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 7:18 pm
    Primetime kill yourself please. Nobody here likes you because you think you are and expert. Well hate to break it to you, but you are dumb dude, freakin stupid. Do us all a favor and put a bullet in your head. Soulja Boy sucks, His dancing sucks. White people cant dance, sure... but black people cant bob their heads. That is the one thing we have learned to to better than the rest. Looking forward to seeing you on the news, oh yeah you`re not good enough to be on the news, not even the paper man. You`re just pathetic man, you arent an expert you arent the sh*t you`re nothing like everyone else. But we shedded our "stupid" a long time ago. But you will always be stupid. Thats the way you were made. Besides, the world needs idiots, what else are we going to laugh at? other than everything having anything to do with you of course.
    Needed to be said dude. Take my advice. Make sure you rooster the gun before you pull the trigger? and dont forget to load it.
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    April 23, 2008 at 7:19 pm
    lol rooster the gun.
  103. Profile photo of Kinga750
    Kinga750 Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 7:27 pm
    I`ll give you this: this site`s hip hop debates are more legible than most.

    However, they are no more interesting or useful.

  104. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm
    "Seriously, who cares if someone is gay. I`m disappointed in your lameness Fancylad. This is sorta homophobic,and it just gets crap started."
    The Urban Community

    Red5TheFinn, how many times did you contradict yourself?
    "Soulja Boy sucks, His dancing sucks. White people cant dance"
    I never did bring out race but if your white, then using your logic you cant say Soulja Boy`s dancing sucks since you yourself wouldn`t know about dance. Thats like Paris Hilton calling someone anorexic.

    "but black people cant bob their heads."
    Congratulations, you have mastered the moves of 1980s movies. Give yourself a pat on the back.

    "Besides, the world needs idiots"
    "That is the one thing we have learned to to better than the rest"

    And I still consider myself an expert since I was actually in the game. After a few months I left my group "Proj3ct Boiz" because there rhymes were different. One of the people in the group got

  105. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm
    got signed. He offered me a spot but I said no. Right now I just do freestyles on corners.

    "Looking forward to seeing you on the news, oh yeah you`re not good enough to be on the news, not even the paper man. "

    Okay, I`m really confused here.
    When you say looking forward to seeing you on the news do you mean as a criminal or has an expert. Then when you say not even the paper man do you mean Not even the paper, man OR not even the paperman? And what do they have to do with the previous statement?

    "But we shedded our "stupid" "
    Shedded isn`t a word. Irony is a bitch.


  106. Profile photo of LastPrincess
    LastPrincess Female 30-39
    8 posts
    April 23, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    All I can say is Mr Dean better wear a kevlar jumpsuit with matching hood 24/7
  107. Profile photo of R_U_Kidding
    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
    4246 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 12:53 am
    Bah, you kids an` yer rap music, with the hippin` an` the hoppin` an` the bippin` an` the boppin`.
  108. Profile photo of R_U_Kidding
    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
    4246 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 12:55 am
    Hey, wait a second...Kimora Lee? As in, Lil` Kim?? LIL` KIM IS NOT MANNISH, DAMMIT!!! >-(
  109. Profile photo of Tiredofnicks
    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    April 24, 2008 at 7:41 am
    Does this really merit five pages of comments?
  110. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
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    April 24, 2008 at 11:42 am
    ^ primetime you`re so full of it. whats your friend`s name that got signed, and if you`re so good, drop me a verse., better yet, upload a video on youtube
  111. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 11:48 am
    i was just reviewing past posts, and you dodged like 10 different questions. what, you dont know the answer to them ? quit acting like you hip hops advocate, cant even answer straight questions
  112. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 24, 2008 at 12:45 pm
    Friends name is Robert, his rap name was D1nero. And once I get a camera I will upload it.
  113. Profile photo of January16
    January16 Female 13-17
    234 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 12:59 pm
    WTF you mean "The Urban Community". Please do explain this primetimekin, since you just know everything.
  114. Profile photo of chode095
    chode095 Male 18-29
    85 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 1:09 pm
    why do you have to categorize every artist? west coast mid west east coast south,

    and "He offered me a spot but I said no. Right now I just do freestyles on corners."

    you cant get signed then offer a friend a record deal like that. if you could do that, some guy that just got signed could sign his 1 yr old nephew too. the record deal would have to hear some sort of demo of yours, which you SHOULD have somewhere downloadable or viewable/listenable on the internet, which you obviously dont, and where the hell are you rapping on corners HAHAH

    and if you guys were anywhere near good enough to get signed, then googling Proj3ct boiz and/or d1nero SHOULD result in SOMETHING. but alas, nothinig. guess u guys sucked

  115. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 24, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    January by urban community I mean inner city. Its taboo in the inner city to be gay. Sure these artist will be able to attract the gay community, but from the "hood" where most rappers get their respect from being gay or not is a serious issue.

    And chode095, we were a small time group. We were going to perform in Biscayne Bay as a part of a festival but we were the headliners. And by offer me a spot I meant he will take me to his studio (he owns one) and we will lay down tracks and then he will take it to the record company. The company is local so it probably wont be on google. And his name use to be Da Don so it might be there as that.

  116. Profile photo of unintrasting
    unintrasting Female 18-29
    1121 posts
    April 24, 2008 at 2:03 pm
    Ha ha `Honky Homos`.
  117. Profile photo of tourettes
    tourettes Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2008 at 3:23 am
    First off this is one of the coolest IAB things ever; rappers that are gay! Fantastic! some names of rappers that I really freaking think SUCK SOME ROUND HAIRY SWEATY GREASY RUMP!!! Thank you!

    Carlos Mencia made a sweet diss of Kanye on his show after that Kanye lost all his cred! :)

    I do like some rap/hip-hop. I tend to not like popular artists; underground rap tends to be cooler and more "real". I like my flows with a cool beat. Hyphy is great it is more fun to listen to than alot of rap and E-40 is solid.

    Cunninglynguist has a really skilled song there; I listened to a lot of the links- that`s one artist that was really cool, sweet flow great beat!

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