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the fact is that white dolls are used more than black ones in advertising, and so children are more prone to prefer the white ones...
No one can say that stereotypes aren`t effecting black children
I mentored and taught children in the ninth ward (very bad neighborhood) in New Orleans and I will never forget this one time in particular I asked a little boy about 11 years old who gave me frequent trouble why he always felt the need to misbehave and his answer was...
"Because I`m black."
Also this 12 year old black girl named Kaylin who I had to have multiple heart to hearts with because she refused to speak with other black children because in her words,
"Black people give me a bad name."
the stories are endless...
The new Disney Princess is going to be an African-American. The story`s The Frog Prince, and it`s set in New Orleans, I think. I`m excited for it, actually.
I`m such a Disney dork. haha
If you think slaves created this country, you`re delusional. Before the Revolution, it was a colony, ruled by the British and only white men had any real influence and could hold office. Then the Revolution came and nothing really changed except the British were out of the picture. It`s still based of West European model. Systems do change, maybe a black president can facilitate that, but don`t fool yourself, it will always be a system set up by and for the WASPS. The rest of us are just trying to make it in their world.
That`s the African culture, not the Afro-American culture.
and i agree with what people have said about the interviewer forcing the kids to pick good from bad, she`s forcing them to be racist.especially how she follows the good and bad question with "which one looks like you?"it`s like, trying to make the kid adopt some over-generalized sterotype, which is most often that he/she is the `bad` race. kids remember stuff like that, they`re like sponges. when parents fight over money, the kid hears and thinks that it`s because he asked his mom for a new gameboy game. my point is, kids are impressionable and i think this study does more harm than it does good. it`s just saying "HEY! AMERICA IS RACIST!", and you`re like "ok, what are you gonna do about it? keep on bringing up race as an issue so it will never go away?"
It`s not fair to blame racism on white people. Everybody is racist, and the most racist people I know are african american.
oh did anyone else think that the interviewer guy was hot?
Also, I`m glad to know some of you understand the meaning behind this while clearly the messages went over a few heads.
back to the comments on the first page AnwarNova`s comment "what about the asian doll...or the arab doll...or the hispanic doll? Maybe the kids would have chosen the asian dolls over the white. "there really arent any asian or arabic dolls... there are very few... and there are more hispanic dolls than asian and arabic, but there are still so few of them... i dont really remember where i was going with this, but i wanted to point that out.
what if they had had an asian or arabic child do this test? what would they have done then?
Theres PLENTY wrong with the black community in America.
Actually, slaves created this country. Sure, white people wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution (which was hypocritical at the time), but black people slaved over the land in America, they built monuments, and they fought in wars.
The white American culture has been one that is a barbaric culture, immersed in enslaving people. The culture carries those same racial ideas down to our day. They may be more "accepting", but they have no qualms with certain racial statements in the privacy of their own home. Growing up in a black household, I know for a certainty that the white jokes made in black film are probably more jokes about white people than a black child will hear in his family in his LIFETIME. Simply put, the black culture isn`t one based on hate like the white culture, but it does bring with it the bitter sting of poverty since the pervading cu
So did I... lol
What a dumb experiment. So black kids have to choose black babies or they are racist? When you are a 7-year-old, the last thing you think about is political correctness and race. We`re talking about children young enough to see a Lucky Charms commercial and beg their parents to get them Lucky Charms the next time they go to the store. Hell, they could hate the cereal, but the commercial was cool.
Kids that young will take in whatever "looks better", and in the mind of a child, brighter colors and shades tend to more pleasing to the eye. Daycares and nurseries are painted in pastel colors, not navy blue or crimson.
The problem is when a 7-year-old is subjected to racism out in the real world, like a white mother not letting the child into her son`s birthday party. That would take a toll on the child and open up such a perspective.
I`m a white girl and I would love a little black baby. Actually, I don`t care what colour my babies skin is as long as it`s cute which of course it will be with me as a mother.
Can`t be bothered writing a serious comment on race issues tonight.
I`m not saying that it is completely objective or anything, just saying that it wasn`t the highschool girl who came up with the original experiment.
It WAS just a high-school project.
Yeah, that is pretty bad. I`m glad to see that you`re not being influenced them though. I myself am for interracial dating, see my above post.
Though I think it depends where the children live. Give the same interview to girls in africa and you`ll get the black doll as the attractive one all the time.
Beauty is percieved differently in all cultures. These children are growing up in a white majority where all magazines and beauty products are nearly always set alongside stick thin white girls with huge bazongas. Many baby ads have cute cheruby pale monstrosities with shiny lips and rosy cheeks - it`s natural they`d think that`s the norm.
Advertising and cultural preferences will change with the population.
So maybe this is just a transition phase - perhaps we will see more black people portrayed in beauty and baby powder adverts.
I am sure there are exceptions to this, but all of the people with mixed genes that I know of, whether white ancestry was part of their genes or not, have been exceptionally attractive. Often I have found them to be also intelligent and athletic.
But this has nothing really to do with the video.
This may not have anything to do with what happened in your scenario, but I have an opinion that people with mixed genes, whatever races their genes are made up of, whatever shade of colour their skin is, are often more attractive than either of their parents.
I believe this has to do with genetics. Their features are more evened out and therefore more attractive. When inbreeding occurs, the features that the parents have in common are more pronounced and obvious, which is less attractive.
I think this is also to do with health. Healthy creatures are generally more attractive in nature. There are often health problems due to
I know how they feel.
When I was 8 I remember seeing a picture of me holding my first dog and thinking...this isn`t right, this doesn`t look right. I`d never seen a black kid with a dog.
"Show me the bad doll." Picks up black doll. "Show me what doll you are more like." Picks up black doll.
The color of your skin should, at all times, be irrelevant. A child shouldn`t be proud to be black or white. It`s just irrelevant. As long as it`s threated as relevant it will be.
The fact is simple: black people are a minority - you could conclude children do not enjoy feeling part of a minority.
If you asked a young jewish child if he`d rather celebrate christmas or hanuka, and he chose christmas (cause that`s how most stores are decorated) would it mean he has a low selfsteem and, overall, a diminished perception about himself? No. It would probably mean he`d hope to be like "most kids".
I`m not proposing a definitive view of whatever this "test" may mean, I`m just thinking about all the things that it can mean.
1. Most sociologists agree that crime and poverty are definitely linked--at least as far as certain types of crime.
2. Many people of many colors are trying to change that system set up by white people in this country, and progress is being made, despite the tone of this video. Systems change, societies evolve and grow, and this one is. In your words, if you want to succeed in it--adapt.
The black doll could be considered "bad" because of the stero types all around us. What good black role models are there? Alive that is and current. Not much to choose from.
Or it could be as simple as picking the doll that is farthest from yourself. I would like to see this with white children. I really would.
Anecdotal evidence? Hmm, I guess I should wait another 5 years and live in a couple more cities. Maybe then...
Poverty turns them to crime? Way to take my premise and turn it into your own conclusion. Let`s just go in circles now that I know you can`t come up with your own ideas.
Ice cream to murder connection? Obviously flawed. You don`t even provide any causal link between the two. The informal fallacy there is ignoring a common cause, by the way.
Oh, and as far as "identity" goes: there`s a system set up by the white people who created this country. If you want to succeed in it, adopt. S i m p l e.
When you learn to properly read an argument, cast your prejudice aside, examine it, and reply thoughtfully, maybe I`ll read a post by you again. Until then, don`t bother. I don`t talk to close-minded people.
I also agree with quick_sand. This little girl is obviously untrained in interviewing techniques. Many of the questions she was asking were certainly steering and could only have one outcome.
Aside from that, race will be an issue for a long to come in the US. (By the way, I am a US citizen. I am presently serving overseas.) I do think that if Barak Obama is elected president, however, that may quail much of it. That is mere speculation.
Call it prejudicial if you want, but I`m a poor immigrant, who has been living in the crappy areas of NYC and San Diego for 5 out of last 9 years (4 on a Marine base). I have seen the people who struggle, the people who collect welfare, and the people who turn to crime to earn a living somehow. Guess what? Easily 80% of those people are minorities, mostly black (in NYC) and hispanic (in SD).
What may be prejudice to you is an observation from someone`s everyday life over the years.
I`m not even going to touch on whether black people should become more "white". I`m rather pragmatic so as far as I`m concerned, cultural identity is something that can be sacrificed for the sake of suc
It matters not what skin your shell wears, your spirit is what counts, and the life you live and how you live it is more important anyway.
Remember that different households, families, ages, they all are different. The child growing up in an angry religious home would most likely see and develop differently than a child growing up in a home where there is little of such imagery.
Also, time may be a factor as well, I`ve overheard people talk about their grandparents still gripping to the war attitude like it happened three months ago. They use words like "jap" and such because that`s what people said back then. Now you`d receive a nasty/shocked look if you utter that phrase.
In other words, they will become more white, and America would be a better place?
I`m not saying that there`s nothing wrong with the black community in America (I can`t really say one way or another since I don`t live in America) but I`m sure the white community has problems, too. The white community don`t have LESS problems than the black community, they just have different ones.
And at that young age, self-esteem is really important. Self-esteem is what motivates people, lack of self-esteem is what de-motivates people. Having little self esteem will not aid you in becoming better people.
It`s just as easy to intepret this "study" as follows:-Black children see more white role models, and want to be more like them-Their parents are less successful than their white counterparts, which makes them prefer the white dolls-Because black kids look up to white people, they will also to follow in their foot steps to success such as getting a better education, setting goals, and working hard-The kids become successful and change black stereotypes
I`m not saying above is more likely, but considering the simplicity of the "test" and lack of explanation behind the children`s choices, we can make any conclusion we want, if any.
On second thought... I don`t care, black people have darker skin because the early origins of their existences were closer to the equator or armer part of the world. (vanishes)