`Speak English` Signs OK at Philly Restaurant

Submitted by: fancylad 9 years ago in
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Courts ruled that the owner of a cheesesteak shop didn"t discriminate when he posted signs asking all to speak English.
There are 87 comments:
Male 2,113
@ scabies "That`s pretty ignorant, I hope you don`t plan to travel abroad any time in your lifetime, unless of course you speak the native language of all of your destinations." 1: no i don`t plan to travel 2:if i did i would learn the basic language BEFORE i went 3:and if i moved any were i would fully learn the language word for word and 4: it would never be a problem because i would Rather be in the USA best place on the planet and in Texas best place in the USA
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Female 4
I absolutley, 100% agree with this man. If you`re going to come into our country, which we allow hundreds to do everyday, then you need to at least learn the language to show your gratitude.
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Male 48
I have eaten there. Its not bad, and who cares about a sign?
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Male 263
You`re in America now...Speak Spanish!
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Male 125
Isn`t it the store`s right? People don`t have a right to eat anywhere they want, no exceptions. If they want to eat at my resturaunt, they have to play by my rules. If they don`t like it, they can find somewhere else to eat.

Also, about the Cherokee thing. Since Cherokee is no longer the common tongue (It wasn`t in the first place (It was split among ALL the languages around,) but that`s beside the point.) it`s not expected. The comic is ireelevant because even though [example] was the original language, it`s not the primary anymore. English is. And I don`t know about the owner, or others making my arguement, but if I go to Italy, I plan on learning basic Italian before I go there. The same applies elsewhere. I don`t plan on travelling the world, but if I did, I wouldn`t go with only English in my toolbelt.

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Male 130
Umm why put a sign up in English that says to speak English. Shouldn`t it be in other languages.

I can understand putting up the sign. I have to deal with clients that speak Spanish often on the phone and they act like I`m a prick because I don`t speak Spanish well and ask if they can speak English.

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Male 9,305
Ehhhh...there`s bigger things *net neutrality* to worry about.
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Female 252
Speak the language of the country or don`t live there pretty simple concept
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Male 992
Genos kicks ass......order in English Wetback, or go to Taco Bell, comprende?
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Male 3,296
all those comments are fine.. but this country claims freedom of speech

maybe they ougtha chaned the constitution since i guess is not wrong

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Male 1,149
The store owner should have the right to put up a "Speak English" sign on his property if he pleases as such action is protected by the FIRST AMENDMENT. I`m glad to see a logical court ruling.
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Female 1
If this sign was posted in a British shop the owner, the employees and the guy who made the ink for the sign would go to jail. LOL
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Male 12,365
Okasen - I agree. I`ve been to France for a holiday. I learnt some basic French, particularly how to apologise in French for not understanding it better. Their country, their language. It was common for us to then switch to English as their English was better than my French, but the crucial point is that I had the courtesy to use their language in their country, even though I was only visiting, and it was their choice to use my language. To *settle* in a country and not even use their language is beyond rude, except for older people who retire to another country.

If I emigrated to France, I`d become French. Speaking French would be a part of that. I wouldn`t expect France to become England to suit me. Likewise if I emigrated to the USA, or Chile, or anywhere.

To head off any morons blathering about racism (i) I think race is an invalid concept. (ii) I`m the first generation of my family born in England.

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Male 12,365
I think that the people making comments about Cherokee are overlooking a key point:

English replaced Cherokee (and all the other languages) because foreign invaders who spoke English conquered the land. It`s one of the differences between immigration and conquest - immigrants learn the language of the country they move to, conquerors impose their own language on the country they conquer. Even conquerors don`t always manage that, e.g. the Norman conquest of England did not succeed in imposing Norman French on England (although it did change English to some extent).

More power to this person for defending their country. If I ever go to that city, I`ll make a point of eating there because of the sign.

Having the sign in English makes perfect sense - it targets people who can speak English and choose not to. It won`t affect foreign tourists who can`t speak English, as they won`t be able to read the sign anyway.

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Male 2,172
The shop owner is dumb. Just hire C3PO to work in your restaurant. It`s a lot easier then to write a sign that people concerned wont even be able to read.

Problem solved.

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Female 523
and i`m sure they don`t mind people who give an effort, like maybe stumbling with words, i respect that they`re trying, but if they just come in and go full on foreign without consideration that i am not fluent in spanish/french/german/japanese (though i know a few words and phrases int eh latter two)

And really how hard is it to be able to understand. Do you want two cheesesteaks? hold up two fingers and try to pronounce cheesesteak... not hard.

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Female 523
In germany i knew how to order food... and they even speak english there so i didn;t have too!

"svi schnitzel bitta, ine coke unt ine sprite, dunka shen"

i think thats the right phrase for two schnitzel, a coke and a sprite, thankyou.

It`s not hard. And that`s three or four years after my trip... maybe five. idk.


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Male 610
@Baalthazaq

lol nice.

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Female 523
He should get an award. This is america. WE SPEAK ENGLISH! If you`re too much of a lazy non-nice individual to learn the native tongue, then you can`t order.

I mean really, I learned german when I went there for vacation for two weeks! you`re planning to /live/ here and you won`t learn the native language?

And how is it discriminating against who can eat there? it didn`t say not immigrants! it said speak english,the native language! an immigrant can do that!

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Male 778
Personally, I hate it when people get all upset about this stuff "That`s not right. you`re descriminating!" No. Did I say I hate mexicans? Did I say I hate asians? Ethiopians, Turks, Germans, or the French? No. But I live in America. The national language is ENGLISH. If you want to live here then learn the language. I don`t go to your country expecting you to automatically know English. I at least make the effort. So why don`t you?

I`m Okay with people wanting to move to the United States. More power to you. All I ask is that you make the effort to learn the language and culture of the country you`re moving to. Learn even basic English and I`ll welcome you into my country. Hell, I`ll even take you out for an American Dinner and an American Beer. On me. Just. Learn. English.

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Male 741
Mmm, anyone who comes to this country and doesn`t learn English are really losing a lot. It`s not the official language, but it`s used by the overwhelming majority of people here.


And, the owner is just losing customers, not only from recent immigrants, but from any tourists too. What a dolt.

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Male 1,725
lol, i remember when they were gettin in trouble for this way back when
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Female 2,695
if they can`t speak english, they can`t read the sign.
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Male 34
It`s about time someone stood up.
Political correctness FTL.
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Male 2,159
So being ignorant pays off...

...only in America.

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Male 227
Have a Geno steak

complete with vegetables picked by those job-stealing mexicans...

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Male 1,149
Finally a sane ruling.
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Female 2,258
The comic that I believe quite a few people here have referenced.

I`d have just added the image, but it was too big, and I`m feeling to lazy to do anything about it.

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Male 44
I agree with most of the comments here, you should speak english if you want to function in an english speaking country

People should however be more tolerant of people who don`t speak good english. If they are in an english speaking country they are probably learning, it is downright rude for them to expect people to speak in their language however

And when people are travelling abroad they should make an effort to learn and speak the language, it isn`t that difficult, you can`t expect other people to speak english over their native language in their own country


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Male 1,024
the anti-mexican bias on this board is appalling.

The default assumption seems to be that people are going in and ordering in Spanish. Not German, not Gaelic, not Malayalam.

The sick thing is that most everyone in Europe speaks at least 2 languages, and Americans, by and large, look like fools by comparison.

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Male 1,024
i`m assuming that when this guy travels abroad (HA!), which, i`m guessing is often (HA!), he learns the native language so he can order food. </snark>
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2,767
good for him!
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Male 1,024
@ maggierose78

"Good for the owner. I don`t see why I should be "required" to learn a second language for people who live here (illegally) who refuses to learn my language."

God, you`ve taken it hook, line and sinker, haven`t you? Pliable as clay.

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Male 1,024
This is Merka. Speak Merkan, you forner!
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Male 591
before I start, yes I did get the Cherokee joke, but the main thing I have to say about that, is there were SO many native tribes here, that "speak Cherokee" thing doesn`t work, before english there were probably over 50+ different languages in the north american continent. Also, if your going to say that, then what about all the different native tribes in every other part of the world, that spoke all the other different languages, before a "civilized" group of people slaughtered them and made the language what you speak now?

Besides that point, I made an effort to learn other languages, and one of them is spanish, but I refuse to speak it to people in situations that should require to speak english. I do commend that person for not being afraid to put that up.

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Male 734
How are you supposed to carry out an order if you can`t understand the language the person is speaking it? That`s common sense there, mate.
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Male 77
This is Sparta. Speak Spartan.
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Male 1,289
It says "when ordering"
deal with it...jeeze
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Male 1,204
Osio Randy Dawado.


Although learning English is usually a good idea, just remember that it isn`t the "language of the land"

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Male 145
English is the official language of the US, not Spanish, or French, or Punjabi. Learn to speak it or go build another roof somewhere
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Female 1,572
well if he can`t speak any other language...
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Female 713
No matter what, Genos Steaks will always do good in business. No one in Philly really goes there. It`s a very touristy place, thats why the sign was up. The situation might have been a lot better if he would have put, "Please order in English" Instead of "This is America: Please order in English." I can see why others would think that it was offensive.
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Female 1,211
I agree with the signs. If you`re going to live in the US, learn english! If I was going to another country, I`d learn their language to function there. It`s just as bad in south Florida where english has become a secondary language in the workplace!
Utter crap, I tell you.
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Male 65
Genos has the best cheesesteaks anywhere. I`ve been there a few times and seen the sign in person. I agree with it as well. Why should workers learn a new language? They provide a service which requires they can understand you!
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Male 21
"I LOVE IT!!! This is America so speak English or get out end of story!."

That`s pretty ignorant, I hope you don`t plan to travel abroad any time in your lifetime, unless of course you speak the native language of all of your destinations.

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Female 31
I LOVE THIS

i work at a restraunt and the MOST annoying thing is when ppl dont speak english. Not only do they change thier order 10 times, they point at like, 5 diffrent things, they get mad at us for not understanding, [and one thing i do know is when they r cussing me out in another language] they dont pay the proper amount for what they ordered, and then the ppl behind them in line get mad at me too. ITS RIDICULOUS!!!

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Male 10,440
Why is there an issue at all? The man should have the right to hang any sign he damn well likes in his restaurant, even if its `only Americans eat here`. If its offensive to some people then thats their problem, its his business, his property... If people don`t like it then that will hurt his business plain and simple.
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Female 1,004
What I think is hilarious is that the Americans also go to another country and expect them to speak English to them there.
Yes, this is America. Know what it`s known for? Being the `melting pot` of the world. As in people from all over come here, bringing different cultures and languages. So technically, we can`t have a set language because so many languages exsist.
I do, however, agree that if the person making your food only knows English, try to speak it. When I go to a Mexican food restaurant and the waiter only speaks Spanish, I make an attempt to speak a little from my poor 2 years of spanish class in school...
And yes...If you want a truly American set language, set it to Cherokee.
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Female 157
A Philly Cheese steak place out in scottsdale has the same sign. I love it.
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Female 1,492
I agree with several of the comments ahead of mine. So, you`re not happy with the way things are going in your country and want to move to America? Well that`s fine, however you should make an effort to have a basic understanding of the language. I love the French culture, and would love nothing more than to visit France or even live there for a short period of time; but will I? No. You know why? Because my French is Sh*t. I`m not going to make some waiters job harder because I can`t speak the language. Granted the US is a super power, but can we stop for just a day playing Angelina Jolie to the world`s immigrants? We`ve got enough crap to deal with concerning the idiots we`ve got here.
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Male 4,290
He has the right to ask people to speak English, just as they have the right to refuse, and he has the right to refuse service to anyone. Hooray.

Also "can`t see the forest for the trees" means someone is too concerned about the little details to realise the bigger picture.

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Male 2,395
WHy? It`s not the people`s fault they didn`t learn english in their country.
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Female 731
That`d be even more difficult here in SoCal...
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Male 1,584
i think its completly fair. the guy shouldn`t have to learn to take orders in different languages just because people don`t order in English. It`s his restaurant, he speaks English so if you want to order, speak English.
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Female 340
no doubt rattling away in Italian as they make these gut busting calorie laden heart attacks in a bun..
I wont comment more...I`m from England, and PC correctness is pure fcukery here also <sigh>
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Female 2,074
""This is America: WHEN ORDERING `PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,`"

Wow. Really. This is America. Surprise, surprise.

The dude that came out with that is a true pr|ck.

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Male 967
Damn straight! English is the official language of the U.S. and commerce abroad. It ought to be common sense that it would be the language of commerce here, too. Anybody who wants to live here should learn the language and pay their dues, like the rest of us.
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Male 1,014
Whatever happened to the right to refuse service to anybody? I think it is ridiculous that the case even went to trial. In the U.S. we`ve got incredible corruption on the right and ludicrous PC hounds on the left. I want to move to Sweden :(. I really didn`t expect this case to turn out this way, but I`m very glad it did.
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Female 2,196
if you cant speak english move or go on vacation in LA you wont have any problems with spanish

if you are going into a restaurant dont expect them to know your language if the main language in that country is something else

couldnt the sign have just said Order in English Please

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Female 40
Good point about the language of the sign, it should be translated into several different ones.
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Male 1,003
hey. who`s asking you to learn a new language. These people attack hispanics mostly because we`re one of the biggest minorities. It also applies to other people. So yeah, you can`t learn over 100 languages, can you? Most of you can`t even spell.
Just leave immigrants alone, they`re only here to take our jobs.
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Female 466
America, freedom of speech, if I have offended anyone, tough crap!!!
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Male 576
If you can`t speak english, then how are you supposed to read the sign telling you to speak english! I guess this is a case of "can`t see the forest for the trees." (or maybe not cause I never understood that goofy ass Cliche)
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Female 466
It`s about time someone stood up for that!!! Why should I HAVE to learn another language to live here!!! You go to France, They aren`t changing their country to accomodate someone who doesn`t understand French now are they!!!! Forget 200yrs ago, this is America, English the primary language, so if you don`t like it, take a copy of OUR constitution pack up your dishes with it, and go back to where ever it is you came from!!! We American born tax paying citizens are Tired of catering to everyone else, while we have to pay out the ass for what illegals get for free!!! More power to the owner of the place!!!!!!
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Female 660
lol wey

anywho,I just say,I don`tunderstand,please speak dutch or english when talking to me,not make a big deal and continue living.

but I can imagine why the sign is there..the this is america speak english..should have been,I only understand english,so please speak english to me lol

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Male 1,003
This is America, have kids, and if you can`t support them, sell your body. If all fails, sell your baby.
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Female 40
I don`t think that was rude at all. If you`re moving to or yes, even visiting another country, you should have a basic grasp of the language, at minimum. It`s one of those unspoken common courtesy rules. It shouldn`t have to be up a sign, but now it does. In fact, there should be more up, if that`s what it takes. Forget worrying about drawing in customers of every nationality; if they come, they come, just be polite to them and treat them like everybody else. Obviously if the person`s struggling with the language but at least making an effort, the staff isn`t going to start shouting at them, they`ll be trying to help them. Working in a restaurant atmosphere can be hectic enough; imagine how frustrating it must be if you suddenly had another language thrust upon you. Then everybody else is waiting for their orders, you`re getting screamed at because you can`t go fast enough, and then you`re accused of being discriminating, and all you want to do is figure out what the person wants.
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Male 1,003
This is America, have kids, and if you can`t support them, sell your body. If all fails, sell your baby.
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Male 205
How would you order a taco in spanish? You say taco right?
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Male 564
"This is America: Speak Cherokee!"
I bet few would understand that joke.
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Female 688
Good for the owner. I don`t see why I should be "required" to learn a second language for people who live here (illegally) who refuses to learn my language.
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Male 335
This guy is an idiot. All he is doing is loosing business. I think the sign is perfectly legal, he has his free speech right just like everyone else, but why as a business owner would you intimidate people from coming to your operation? But go there on a Friday night after closing time and I guess you`ll see he doesn`t need the extra business, Pat`s and Geno`s lines are about 60-80 people long.

Cowboysrgr8, yes Pat`s is much better, and oh, DALLAS SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Male 136
What about tourists? Should someone in the US for a week have to learn English?
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Male 438
that`s completely retarded that there was 1 vote against. Speaking both the official international language of business and being able to communicate in the commonly understandable local language are keys to carrying out business. That`s like saying a customer can`t be refused service because they barter with gold coins instead of pay with money.

If anything not having the liberty to use such signs might be educationally discrimination against store owners... they aren`t all lucky enough to learn multiple languages, yet seem to be excluded here.

I didn`t even get he connection but honestly these laws mentioned here are highly illegal. They were created to reduce racial discrimination issues 40 years ago, but honestly they are illegal. They are necessary nonsense laws but here, something that isn`t even good in the first place and violates personal freedom rights is being used for something that`s not even in the spirit of it. Being black has no business implications but this does.

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Male 23
The sign is fine, but across the street Pat`s is better
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Female 28
I saw this in the deli (I live in Philadelphia)
It was just a mean and snarky remark
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Male 592
in my area, you basically don`t need to know English to live here. but yeah, people should make an effort to learn English. Learning English can be harder than most other languages, but one of the first things you learn is how to order food. It just makes things easier for everybody.
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Female 450
make *an* effort lol I grammar nazid myself. ^^
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Female 450
Yeah, I really don`t see a problem. I mean if you go to live in Mexico, make an effort to learn Spanish. France, French. England, know the lingo. Japan, Japanese, you get the drift. Seeing as English is the unofficial yet official language of America, you really should make effort to speak the language if you`re going to be living or spending some time here.
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Male 4,546
"This is America: Speak Cherokee!"
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Male 1,162
drat yeah. Why wouldnt it be ok? Why the drat should we bend over backwards when you`re in our coutnry, eating at our diners? Learn our drating language if you want to order food.
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Male 2,113
I LOVE IT!!! This is America so speak English or get out end of story!.
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Male 680
well as long as its not in a discriminative way, it should be perfectly fine, seeing that the restaurant may have waiters or waitresses that only speak english. not really a problem.
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Male 3,301
Heh, no argument from me. Political correctness GTFO.
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Male 908
I think it is right for it to be that way
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Male 20,830
Here`s a video I found of the owner of Geno`s Steaks in Philadelphia, PA. It gives you more background on the whole situation.
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Male 20,830
Link: `Speak English` Signs OK at Philly Restaurant [Rate Link] - Courts ruled that the owner of a cheesesteak shop didn`t discriminate when he posted signs asking all to speak English.
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