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Pardon but its true what Mani Jac says. Sure these people are dying but to kill a dog just for the fun of it deserves outrage. Plus people like him deserve to die. . .)
One isn`t a hero for joining the military willingly. Brave, perhaps, but not heroic. That is expressed in deeds and has always been since the time of the Greeks. I haven`t seen this man commit any particularly heroic acts, but I did see him unnecessarily kill a defenseless puppy. Call him a hero if you wish, but don`t dare wonder why the US and people in it are assumed to have a lesser moral compass than the rest of the world.
there are not that many financial benifits. Especially for enlisted men. There`s health care and teh GI bill but enlisted people don`t get rich off of the military.
Going to war doesn`t make you a hero. What makes him a hero is that he signed his life away for at least six years. he can be sent anywhere in the world at a moment`s notice. He was suddenly out fighting for me and for you.
In my book that makes him a hero.
and let`s not talk about the politics behind the war. We disagree and we will always disagree. He may disagree with me, but he obeyed his orders and did as he had to do. The reasons behind the war are moot.
Signing up for the military with the likely promise of future financial gain and other benefits tends to render the act of signing up significantly less heroic. Besides that, you`ve no proof he did anything heroic, puppy or no. I`m much more comfortable condemning him for what is easily seen\witnessed\verifiable versus revering him for what is not.
Yes, primetimekin, because you`ve shown exemplar aptitude in the past in distinguishing that which is fake and fabricated from that which is real and factual. Good job.
I`m not sure I care whether he is sorry in hindsight about the animal. It`s dead and he`s not and he should be responsible for his actions. Deplorable.
Here`s a direct quote:I want to clear somethings up before tomarrow. This might be hard to believe but I am sorry about the dog. At the time I just really didn`t care. When you are constantly under fire sometimes people develope a different sence of humor than what others are used to. That video was from over a year ago and i dont know who put it out there but it wasn`t me. It has been a real hard day. I don`t know how they got my information but someone got all my information and i had to disconnect my parents and my womans phone. not to mention i had to redo my myspace because it got hacked. I just want this to end.
Burn in hell?Hot knife to eye? that`s a bit much don`t you think?
I`m not saying I like it, but only that you guys are a little bit crazy for freaking out this much.
That guy should burn in the deepest pits of Hell
And this is obvious that is fake. Unless you have never seen a dog in your life and dont know about its reaction then it should be an obvious fake.
This video goes against the Doppler Effect, the dog has no motion, and notice how the camera man avoids touching the dog. If it were a real and alive dog, it would be squirming or atleast have its eyes open or follow the laws of the doppler effect. If it was a already dead dog it would be less stiff or rotten. Its a doll. fake.
....i like ur avatar pic
um yeah im sure the THING is dead...just saying...it went off a cliff...hehe
They have a point though, the whole `everyone cares about puppies and not people`, but he`s went about proving it the wrong way, he could have just SAID it lul.
I WANT TO GET A KNIFE AND PUT IT INTO HOT COALS FOR AN HOUR AND STAB IT INTO HIS EYE AND HOLD IT THERE UNTIL HE DIES! WHAT A dratFACE!
I think animals and humans have distinct differences. This is why I don`t think animals are capable of love. I think they`re capable of attachment and showing and wanting care, but not love. I think love includes complete self-sacrifice, even for a total stranger, without considering yourself or genetic perpetuation. On the other hand, anything an animal does, even those that are commonly seen as love, can be explained by genetic perpetuation, which is inherently selfish, and therefore cannot qualify as love.
Of course, we can`t compare humans and animals. Humans are sentient, and most animals are not.
Scientists have never observed Resident Orcas to eat mammals, they`ve only seen them eat fish, but Resident Orcas have often been witnessed killing and harassing seals and porpoises for apparently no reason. They don`t eat them. They just kill them and play around with their dead or half-dead bodies, or kill them by playing around with them. Clearly, they are killing for fun.
Me becoming violent is not a positive thing...
It annoys me when people love household pets but don`t mind killing some possum or rodent. This is a double standard. Your ideology should be the same towards all animals. Saying a puppy has more value of life than a shark is a double standard, and is a very shallow statement/belief.
I have household pets myself, and I`m not against animals. However, I am against double standards.
People already said the video is still atrocious even if the puppy is dead/faked, but if it was a dead possum, people would care a lot less. This is the double standard I`m talking about. This is what I`m against.
Also people who claim animals can have human emotions and can love, but yet deny any possibility they can hate. That is double standard also, and also what I`m against.
I`m not against animals.
Yes animals do kill each other, same as humans. Should we kill all household pets like ttsec says, no. The Vets wont then become human doctors and that takes away from the economy. Good in theory but it wont work in practice.
People who enlist in the military know about the risk of wars. Its just in their job descriptions. People are forgetting that war causes new jobs (people leave and others have to fill in, making weapons etc.) which was important after Katrina. After Katrina our unemployment stayed relatively low.
And it may seem terrible but wars, famine, genocide, etc, is actually important. by the year 2020 the population would be so high that some countries like El Salvador would need to start purchasing water from other nations. But most importantly ITS NOT A REAL DOG!!!
I love how everybody talks so tough over the internet!! Americans on here saying they would kick this marines ass and kill his family over a dog!!??? YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF CUM SOAKED TWATS!!! Talk is cheap.
And as far as you pathetic titty baby punks from outside the US...GO drat YOURSELVES!!!!
"Hundreds of innocent die in iraq? hey they all have a chance to throw down their weapons."
that literally says all of the innocents that die in iraq refuse to put down their guns and pose a threat. I truthfully cannot see any other way it can be taken.
I never said civilian casualties were "intentional", YOU said they were justifiable by self defense.
I mean, an innocent casualty wouldn`t be much of an innocent with a gun in their hands, so how does that work?
And of course I haven`t taken a life in the service of my country. I`m female after all.
People didn`t freak out like this over Michael Vick.
If you don`t know about animals killing each other for fun in nature, then you`re clearly ignorant about animal behavior. It`s been documented that animals also exhibit breedism (racism for humans). The so-called "hate" is just as useless of an emotional attribution made by humans as "love." If animal lovers claim animals can love, I can use the same nonsense logic to say animals can hate. I can also use the same nonsense logic to say animals have moral conscience and therefore can "know better."
"Life`s not fair you bitch stfu n00b I pwn your ass!!1! There`s gonna be controversy in life so stfu and care for the soldiers more than the puppy!one! We should pwn ALL animals! BWAHAHAHAHA1!forty!one"
There, I said it for you, and I reply with: Blahblahblah, not caring what you think.
Should not. Have been. Posted. I rest my case.
lmao. animals murder each other all the time.
babies are eaten by siblings or parents, chimps brutally attack each other over territory, sharks beat dolphins senseless with little intention of eating them afterwards.
how many times has a house cat killed a mouse out of necessity?
& Btw, that was horrible. ]:Hopefully this is `shopped. If it`s even possible /;
And also, if the puppy was dead or not, if the video is fake or not, or even if its just a "stupid puppy", the brutality of it is just the same. No one should ever be this sadistic to anything. Living or dead, fake or not, its the principal of the thing. However, I think that it is important that people see this kind of thing so we can all stop living in our bubbles and start to realize that this kind of sh*t goes down everyday,
Persony, I think this is disgusting, and it is videos like these that give everyone a bad opinion of America when only one in a million people would do something like this, whether the puppy is alive or not does not change the brutality of the act.
Animals kill each other and hate each other more than humans do. So happy living in your animal only world.
If this was real (how most of you are claiming) what is a puppy doing in the middle of the dessert? Why isn`t it moving? Does this video disprove the Doppler Effect?
If people cared about their neighbors, the poor and the helpless, as much as they did about animals, our country would be a better place.
This is a very moral and humanitarian solution.
If you think countries like Iraq would just sit back peacefully and not bother the U.S., you are way too naive or just plain ignorant.
Bill Clinton already once affirmed Bush for going to war, so if you think this is isolated to Bush or republicans, you are also too ignorant. If you think Hillary or Obama wouldn`t have gone to war, you are too ignorant or naive. They only say things that sound good to liberal voters because they want to get elected. Everything changes once people actually become president. Especially once they learn top secret information they otherwise wouldn`t have known had they not become president.
i hate animal cruelty this made me cry >_<ide torture a person for hoursbut i had to kill a cat fish and cryed
There is no movement from the puppy`s body. Not while being held, not while being drawn back, and not even while jerking it to throw it.
The yelping from the puppy is quite clear and loud and does not get faint as the puppy travels away from the camera. Usually when someone adds a sound effect in post-production, they aren`t quite that retarded.
My conclusion: Throw fake puppy + add sound effects = offensive video.
The guy`s still a sicko for doing it.
Dont know if it`s fake or not...hmm..
Fake or not.
I could be mis-reading it, still interesting..
It disgusts me.
Animals are asses. They deserve to die just as much as humans.
i`m going to die.
Their real crime is not eating the puppy. What a waste of meat. If it was properly cooked, whatever disease in the meat would be cooked to death anyways. There are hungry people dying in Iraq, and the soldiers just waste such good food.
The puppy`s sounds defy the law of physics, namely the Doppler Effect. This is a fake. The marines who did this are probably laughing their ass off over people`s reactions. They are trolls.
I once threw a Pomeranian out of a moving car, only got 30 feet...
fu** you... maybe if you were a real american then you would appreciate the values of our american lives. (not directed towards any others, just to this dumbass). yeah people are dying in Iraq, but that`s not our fault, they have the courage and the drive to want to go and fight for our country and i respect that 110%, but this was disgustingly wrong for them to do; or even the person who may have photoshopped it.
Well, I told someone the fastest way to get onto my despicable persons list was to hurt a puppy... so yeah... there he goes. Right at the top with my most hated figures.
I am simply taking the long view about this; where does it end? When will the condemnation stop? It won`t, unless we put our heads in the sand and refuse to expose ourselves to this garbage.
If the long line of condemnation does not stop due to these long line of incidents, I will be blamed for something by the Blame America First people! I will not be happy about that and the only logical thing to do is to blame this all on liberals. To Hell with the puppy, This nation and its soldiers are more important!
When he lowers the dog to his side before he throws it he would have switched it out for anything that looks similar and has weight then added in the sounds. Soldiers have been making videos for fun the whole time they`ve been over there.
I`m not saying that what they`ve done is right, real or not, but cmon people look at an important issue at least rather than making 100 comments about a real/unreal dog. Man I hate modern society
You are right. But nobody is questioning that it is wrong to kill people. In fact, nobody is talking about that. What does it have to do with this inhumane act?
How did this come about? - you can hear dogs barking in the background and the area looks run down. Maybe the dog and puppy owners couldn`t feed them and asked the soldiers to dispose of them. And these naive soldiers thought it would be "fun" to record the disposal, without thinking about the consequences if it were revealed.
But I doubt it.
A serious lack of empathy, I don`t know if the guy would do anything different if it was a baby he were holding.
Neither of them suck, you`re just a dick.
I`d never think to say this but I hope these two pricks get shot.
Needless to say, I will not be watching this video and I think it`s disgusting that you posted it.
Isn`t he in Haawii now neway?
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They pointed out that the sound of the yelp seems to be too clear for a camcorder or a camera phone that they seem to be using.
I do believe he did throw a puppy off the cliff but the PUPPY WAS DEAD. The sound didn`t fade so thats fake, its just his idea of a joke, sicko.
I`m talking about the thousands of dead Iraqi civilians that are killed everyday in equally cruel ways.
If anything, it just gives bored idiots more ideas...
Nice justification, but utterly lacking in one small detail.
Men and women who join the military do so of their own free will.
A puppy is at the will of it`s owner or individual who is larger than it.
A soldier`s job is to serve our country, that comes with great KNOWN risk.
A puppy`s job is to bring joy to our lives, that comes with the hope of love and care in return.
A soldier is an adult who can make choices, they can take care of themselves when sick, during injury, or prevent bad things from happening to them by taking caution.
A puppy is young, defenseless, and cannot make choices like that of an adult human. They cannot fight back often times, due to age and general limitations as it is an animal.
How can anyone try to compare compassion for a poor innocent puppy, flung to it`s death in outright cruelty to a soldier injured or killed in Iraq? There are casualties in any war... both military and civilian... But this was a puppy, and it makes me sick.
also: all you people wanting to kill this guy and what not, you guys crack me up. All you senseless people are just like that soldier in the video. Ridiculus.
and how do you know that puppy aint as mean as them (joking lol)
Thankyou, someone who agrees wit me.
1. Does it look like the puppy is alive in the first place?
2. Does the screach from the dog fade out as it gets further away?
3. Does the scream sound added in, do you think it would be the screach from that dog?
Yes i do think it is a messed up video but clearly the dog is dead in the first place.
Part of the guys job description is to kill people surely?!? If we fills himself with remorse then he wouldn`t last very long.
I also find it interesting that people are so horrifed by a puppy dying but not thousands of members of the Iraq public being killed
Poor puppy btw. it`s these times that I wish someone would throw the guy off the cliff.
This reminds me of that one video a while back of some other solders shooting an innocent dog for kicks.
but im 98.7 percennts sure hat is was fake
and to snoopdawgg:because its a damn PUPPY, not only is it a baby but its an innocent dog. this wasnt done because they had to, or they were ordered to, but because that was their sick minded idea of fun.
I seriously hope that it a good fake... a lot of news media have the story now and are waiting for a confession from the soldier.
David Motari is the name of the soldier according to this news article.
That`s because people suck and puppies are awesome.
so now a puppy is dead, the whole world is made