Pagan Origins Found in Christianity

Submitted by: Gunit1 8 years ago Funny
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An intro to Christianity"s origins in ancient Pagan religion. Christmas trees and Easter eggs? They"re pagan byproducts.
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Male 90
I BELIEVE! *dies* agrees with beer vs. jesus.
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Male 411
You do realize that the very poorly written headline actually states that the orgins of paganism where found in christianity. If you said "Paganism found to be the origin of Christianity," that would be correct.

Go back to school thanks.

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Male 928
"you know if someone believes in God why ruin it. Truly I think people who have religions such as christianity are easy to get along with and make living much easier. I mean they are more trustworthy, forgiving, and happy than the normal joe. Ignorance is bliss so come on just live and let live."

Seeing as the normal joe is christian, it would be kind of hard for Christian to be happier than themselves. And ignorance of vaccination and flushing toilets and architecture does not cause happiness. Eradicating ignorance through discovery is the only thing that has ever advanced mankind.

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Female 850
aBISS, did you not see the fact that he said: This is not trying to bash other religions!!!! It`s just facts!!!

You pompous ass. And it is NOT atheist, it is FACTS you closed minded ass.

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Male 426
aaah, what great a specie(sp?) are we to have always stole from someone then said they lie...we base our civilization on so much from romans, incas, mayans, greeks, yet say that they are WRONG on a factor so vain....pathetic western religion...

and this may seem like common knowledge to some, but i know many people who dont know any of this stuff....i made my mom cry telling her that december 25th wasnt jesus`s birthday...

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Female 731
Nothing I say or do will "ruin it" as far as someone who is truly committed body and "soul" to some form of belief or other. maybe it will make them strengthen their belief, maybe weaken.. You can be certain, however, that people without some agenda or other that they wish you to comply with on pain of "going to hell", are easier to live with.
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Male 292
you know if someone believes in God why ruin it. Truly I think people who have religions such as christianity are easy to get along with and make living much easier. I mean they are more trustworthy, forgiving, and happy than the normal joe. Ignorance is bliss so come on just live and let live.
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Female 731
When did the word "work" morph into "T C of N" ? I mean, how much have you actualy read?
I went to school in Malvern and studied in Worcester, it was practically jammed into our eyesockets, then, when I was a bit older, I could actually compare it to great works of literature, it simply paled.

And good for you both, you have a couple of dates on the calender you set aside to remember stuff. I`m glad, However, I just try to be a good person 365 days of the year, without trying to shove my worldview into others faces. Good luck with that.

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Female 82
I`m a christian and got to say-honestly-our best holidays have pegan roots. I have no problem with this and find it interesting. Further all of you jesus haters...I better not catch you enjoying your christmas day off of work!!! :)
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Male 80
HA staberind! you ignorant fool. C.S. Lewis is a great writer! He DID write other books besides the Chronicles of Narnia.

I don`t really celebrate Easter or Christmas. I use it as a reminder that He died on the Cross and that God sent his Son down on earth.

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Female 731
ah, Lewis, that second rate hack, notice how its mainly children that read his work, while people of any age read Tolkein ?
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Male 117
How can you call Jesus names if you don`t believe in him? lol

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/author...

Lawlathiests
A man can no more diminish God`s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, `darkness` on the walls of his cell.
C. S. Lewis

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Female 731
I think the point here is that neither christmass or easter have anything to do with christianity either....
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Male 2,160
or in most cases,doing worse
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Male 2,160
that doesnt change that christianity used alot of pagan elements and essentially stole most of its ideas and holidays from paganism while at the same time going and burning the pagans at the stake for heresy
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Male 394
Wow, leave it to some arrogant historian to take American Idolatry and Commercialism and turn it into blasphemy.

Christmas trees and easter eggs have nothing to do with Christianity. Read the bible... lol

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Female 731
Well, its the carrot and stick approach, "join us or die" sounds a bit dramatic, eh?
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Male 2,576
DrewK "they adopted them in order to befriend the pagans."

OH - Yes, mass genocide, yes, very befriending.

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Male 2,576
Hobbs - Clicked on your second link - Clicked on "Fossils Discredit Evolution"

Some of the very first lines include "The myth of evolution, based on absolutly no scientific findings whatsoever"

Out right lying, yes, of course, can very much discredit science.

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Male 506
Great, another atheist website that tries to debunk Christianity with unrelated facts.

And it`s funny how they didn`t even take the Old Testament into account.

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Female 360
I hear more and more christians who refuse to celebrate Christmas because of it`s pagan origins.. It might sound idealistic, but why wait until certain times of the year to be generous, loving, and to show other people good will.. Why not do that every chance you get?? Yeah, I know..tra la la..
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Male 20
There are people who didn`t know this?

Sad.

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Female 26
I meant Yule as in Winter Solstice. Sorry, I often use the two words interchangeably in these situations. And to everyone who says otherwise, Angilion and I are right; from what is written in the Bible, scholars can and HAVE concluded that Jesus was born in early September.
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Male 145
WELL DUHHHHHHH!!!!!! PAGAN WAS FIRST AND THEY NOW DISCOVER THAT CHRISTIANS STOLE EVERYTHING FROM PAGANISM anyone who believes chritians made that crap up is retarded im pagan
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Female 513
No one really cared WHEN Jesus was born; all early Christians cared about was when he died and rose from the dead. That`s why there`s not much about his birth other than the manger story. Up until Christianity became a big enough power to hold sway in a political community, did they (the church) decide to place Christ`s birth near the Winter Solstice so that those celebrating Saturnalia would in turn be celebrating Christ`s "birth".

Or something like that. I`m wretchedly sick right now so my thinking is a little fuzzy.

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Male 385
Great article! Very informative. This just in; oxygen related to breathing!
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Male 12,365
"Yule was co-opted by Christians."

That`s hardly likely - Yule is a northern European thing, so it`s the wrong area.

Saturnalia is more likely, i.e. the winter solstice festivial in the Roman empire. It made conversion to Christianity easier.

Easter is the real giveaway - they didn`t even change the name! Oestre, pronounced "Easter". Female fertility, hence the eggs.

It`s all about ease of conversion and burying other religions.

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Female 98
This is why I think religion is a bunch of bullpoo.. its so complicated. ><
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Male 48
Religion`s just adapt on the religions before them, adding and changing certain bits of it`s predecesors. Religion is also used as a way of control and to make money. Though that doesnt mean that i think it should be, people just do, which is why i`m an atheist. To much corruption in religion, though it does teach the right moral codes to a point, e.g. ten commanments.

P.S. jenneh are you a jehovah`s witness then cause my aunt is and she doesnt celebrate things like christmas and easter.

P.P.S. Jesus was born around the march april time, possibly the same time he died.

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Male 12,365
"I mean Im jewish but wasnt jesus really born in june/july?"

It`s unknown. It wasn`t important in early Christianity and no-one else kept any records of his birth (why would they?)

The indirect references to his birth in the Christian bible place it in late autumn, based on the birth of John and an average length of pregnancy. That ties in with the story of the Roman census - the preferred time was after harvest and before winter, to minimise disruption to the efficient running of the empire. This does have a plausible tie-in with late December - that would be the time of conception. It also, maybe by coincidence, makes Tabernacle a possible birthdate for Jesus.

However, lambing season is in the spring. So the references to shepherds out at night with their flocks is a problem - that generally indicates lambing season. Although September in that area is warm enough for it.

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Male 60
Come on IAB, if you wanna post religious stuff to start a flame war that will generate massive hits and thus ad revenue, find a better site than this. Did you guys not know this stuff, cause it seems all of us did. San Dimas High School football rules!
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Female 460
Stupid, because the Catholic church invented Christmas and Easter to befriend pagans to get them to convert little by little. Look up Estre, a Norse goddess of Spring and light. That`s wehre the word `Easter` comes from, so the pagans wouldn`t feel threatened. Christmas is a pagan holiday, too. I`m a Christian, and I don`t believe in all that crap. I think that the Catholics (and it was proven that Catholicism wasn`t part of Christianity) just wanted to convert the pagans to Cathlocism.. By the way, Jesus was born in spring, not winter or autumn.

The idea of salvation isn`t new, either, or forgiveness. Just because religions have similarities doesn`t mean anything.

So, hate me because I`m a Christian, or don`t care. Just letting you know that there are actually some Christians who don`t believe in pagan holidays. :)

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Male 99
Didn`t the Da Vinci Code make this widely known already?
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Male 1,014
Common knowledge and unnecessary.
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Male 54
Johnny Blaze, more accurate on science is it? The Koran states the world is a large carpet.

(.)

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Male 249
For the people that bashed on Islam, just so you know, it`s way more accurate according to history and science than Christianity is.
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Female 504
not really much of a conspiracy, christianity chucked its religious holidays and events on top of existing pagan ones to stamp out the pagans..s`worked
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Female 504
not really much of a conspiracy, christianity chucked its religious holidays and events on top of existing pagan ones to stamp out the pagans..s`worked
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Female 4,225
MJ_ Spelt is a word.

Thank you for the liunks! TAKE THAT! Too bad its old news

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Male 335
@ melissawissa - Actually, despite what my spellcheck says (and yours, if you`re using one), spelt is a word. It`s a rarely used past tense of spell, and is also a type of wheat.
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Female 14
Aphrodite, your comment was irritating. Knowing that there are pagan influences in Christianity doesn`t make Christianity look bad. While I am not too fond of it myself, at least hate it in a not-dumbass-manner.

Also, you may have spelled something wrong. Spelt isn`t even a fu*cking word.

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Female 26
Yep. Just doubled checked my old research papers from school. Some time in September, six months after John the Baptist was born. J the B was born just after Passover.
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Female 26
IF Christ existed, he was born in Autumn.
Sorry to rain on your parade. Yule was co-opted by Christians.
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Female 691
To who asked whether jesus was born in the summer- yes, if he was real, he was.But they moved it forward to the winter solstice.
Winter solstice= PAGAN HOLIDAY
How `weird`
Pagan FTW
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Male 7,933
THIS IS BULL! WE ALL KNOW THAT JESUS DIED AND RESURRECTED AS A COLORFUL EGG! (jk). And the Church never actual took this tradition it just stayed.

And I dont know any Christians who worship Christmas Trees and eggs. And another reason for why the celebrate christmas in December is because if they had it in his actual birthday (which would be in spring) it would be too close to easter.

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Female 26
Sometimes Sunday is just another day.
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Male 3,369
It`s only holy to you because you think it`s holy!
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Male 147
I really hate to stop all the athiest love going on here but a tree and a hard boiled, colored egg have nothing to do with Christianity. It is just a continued tradition but the Church has never hijacked, rejected nor endorsed the rituals.

Secondly, while I only read the first part of the article you should read about the Big Bang Theory and Georges Lematre (sp?).

Finally why does IAB always seem to place these articles on the Christian holy day?

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Male 495
^^^ You know because the public school system now indoctrinates kids against Christianity as does the main stream media.
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Female 1,890
o now i remember my pagan friend was talking about it in science class last week

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Female 1,890
even i know this and i never went to church in my life 0.0

how do i know? i dont even know, i just knew >->

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Male 495
Christians did not "borrow" or "steal" the pagan rituals, they adopted them in order to befriend the pagans.
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Male 363
Hey, hey guys.... news flash.... none of that is news. 98% of Christianity was taken from pagan traditions. In a lot of cases, its as simple as changing some names around.

Deal with it Christians, your stories and ideas aren`t unique to Christianity, and everything you thought was wholesome and good never existed.

Sorry.

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Male 205
manorrd.. what ligitimacy?

also ill just second what kikij said earlier


and link again the wonderful picture for those who expected something that would take effort / aload of bs about god
picture

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Female 26
VikingGuy, not all Christians are like that.
I`m an atheist because, in my opinion, society has evolved to a point where we do not need religion. Religion only came about in the very beginning because cavemen were terrified of the Sun and started worshipping it. As I said, that is my opinion and I`m not here to disprove anything or waste my time trying to make other people feel guilty for believing in something.
There are similarities within ALL major religions. Tell us something we don`t know.
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Male 205
kikij, i suggest you check the link ;)

(its a picture)

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Male 2,160
oh,we dont hate you for being religious,we just laugh at how you try to push off a cheap copy of what was once a actual major religion and a modern day political control method as the absolute truth behind the world,in any case,good link,even if i´ve seen it all before.
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Male 2,372
What, is this supposed to be some kind of `big win` for `our team`

Why are people so obsessed with jumping up and going "ooo! ooo! This Christian thing is PAGAN! That Christian thing is PAGAN."

Who gives a sh*t? It`s boring.

Just because some symbolism from the past can still be seen in use in today`s Christianity does not necessarily diminish the legitimacy of Christianity, nor does it make it a pagan religion.

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Female 268
Umm ... whats new?

and i`ve seen this site already

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Female 40
As has already been said: "duh"
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Female 311
thisidrocks - I`m from Britain. Everyone knows this Pagan/Christianity link. No-one believes in God.

RelaxEnjoy - it is only a theory. Theories are liable to change. Christianity is just as much of a theory as the big bang is. I find it very hard to believe in either.

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Male 49
This is pretty common knowledge.
How do you think Christianity grew so quickly? The leaders incorporated pagan ideas and myths into their faith and huge numbers of conversions followed.
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Male 4,431
Anyone who`s above the age of 15 or so and has bothered themselves to do any reading and/or research outside of the Bible and FoxNews should know this stuff already--it`s not mysterious, or false. And amazingly, unlike so much in the Bible and on Fox, this stuff can be and has been proven.

But, since those over 15 who`ve never bothered themselves to read or tune into anything other than the party line aren`t going to change anyway, then, whatever. I`m out.

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Male 4,547
Common knowledge:
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm...
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm...

And a trajillion more I can`t be bothered to search for.

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Male 5
This is not common knowledge. However, I do believe it is common knowledge that those you associate with have similar opinions and interests though, as well as statistical normalities associated with certain web sites.

As for the link, it is useful to have that information cataloged in one space so thoroughly.

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Female 385
It is common knowledge, to anyone with the wherewithal to question what`s presented to them. You`d be surprised how few people there are that do that.
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Male 50
as people here has allready said: isn`t this common knowledge?

christianity "stole" from other religions and pagan beliefs, and they again stole from something before them and so on.

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Male 2,113
too long very boring
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Male 205
CHEMICAL PERIODICY IS A MYTH
TEACH BOTH SIDES!!!
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Male 9
COME TO THE TRUTH..MY LAST WORDS TO EVERYONE OF YOU LUCKY ENOUGH TO READ THIS.. COME TO THE TRUTH..

THE WAY TO THE TRUTH

THIS WILL COUNTER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER HEARD ABOUT SCIENCE

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Male 57
johnny blaze

you can not "prove" beer exists ( you cant "prove" anything ) but you can collect overwhelming evidence that the beer is currnetly in your hand. and your about to drink it :)

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Male 249
Top Ten Reasons That Beer Is Better Than Jesus:-
1) No one will kill you for not drinking beer.
2) Beer doesn`t tell you how to have sex.
3) They don`t force beer on minors who cannot think for themselves.
4) Beer has never caused a major war.
5) When you have a beer you don`t knock on people`s doors trying to give it away.
6) Nobody has ever been burned at the stake, hanged or tortured over a beer.
7) You don`t have to wait 2000 years for a second beer.
8) There are laws saying beer labels cannot lie to you.
9) You can prove you have a beer.
10) If you are devoted to beer then there are groups who can help you stop.
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Male 2
History is nothing more than a collection of people agreeing upon what happened. It doesn`t really exist. It used too, but not anymore. Arguing about it can be fun, I guess, but ultimately pointless. Furthermore arguing about the history of a belief structure has to be the utmost example of it`s pointlessness.
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Female 80
I`m an athiest, and I always figured that if I end up being wrong, that it doesn`t matter. I still think Jesus is a douchebag.
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Female 513
Pretty much every religion in the world has "borrowed" stuff from other religions. Egyptians borrowed from their enemies and forefathers, Greece borrowed from Egypt, Rome borrowed from Greece, Japan and China borrowed from each other, etc etc. So on and so forth.
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Female 2,249
^^^ wait till u get to 500... now THAT`S exciting
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Female 416
*get`s ready for yet another religious debate*
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Male 54
Elway, why aren`t you muslim then? They believe in the same God, but not in Christ`s divinity.
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Male 185
h hows that for a 100th post?
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Male 185
ya i agree with Kaizer, inst this common knowledge? I mean Im jewish but wasnt jesus really born in june/july? I didn`t read all this because I study latin and understand how saturnalia (if its not in there look it up) is the basis of Christmas and Hanukkah, one of the reasons they invented both holidays was because they wanted to please converted pegans who liked saturnalia.

I think the bible is more of a book than guidelines, if we took the damn thing literally we would be drating our family and still living in the Middle East. Its a good book, dont get me wrong, with some very interesting stories but I`ll start following the damn thing word for word as soon as I start believing there is a Harry Potter and Hogwarts is a real place.

You may ask, after that, how are you jewish? well I believe there is a god that started the big bang b/c someone/something had to be there to kick start the universe, and I believe jesus was not the son of this god. therefore, I by definition am jewis

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Female 42
already knew about this but i think more people should.. just because i hate christianaity..however thats spelt
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Male 54
Coming later on I-A-B, Bears defecate in the woods? And did you know that the Pope is Catholic?
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Male 162
i don`t understand how two religions and cultures having similar statues indicates that one derived from the other. too bad most people won`t ask questions and will now go spouting random crap about how christianity is b.s.
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Male 1,825
wasnt there a video on youtube, about pretty much the same thing?
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Male 777
Isn`t this common knowledge?
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Female 338
What a well-organized website, I`ll have to send a nice e-mail to the webmaster as soon as I finish having this seizure.
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Male 354
wow who didnt already know this!?
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Female 850
Link: Pagan Origins Found in Christianity [Rate Link] - An intro to Christianity`s origins in ancient Pagan religion. Christmas trees and Easter eggs? They`re pagan byproducts.
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