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123 Responses to French Oscar-Winning Actress Says 9/11 was Faked

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    Link: French Oscar-Winning Actress Says 9/11 was Faked - 2008 Oscar winner Marion Cotillard believes in the 9/11 conspiracy and she has doubts about the moon landings, too.
  2. Profile photo of snoopdawgg
    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:50 am
    the debates begin
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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:53 am
    just to let everybody know that if you are not an engineer for the wtc or nasa please dont comment on this because it will just annoy people like me.

    like 99.99% of you all, i dont know 5hit either

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    Phil_D_Rock Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:53 am
    ^NO it doesn`t. The only debate is how big of a dumbass this lady is.
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    Triplekia Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:55 am
    Heh, she knows how to stir. This way she would be remembered as that controversial actress instead of another Oscar winning actress.
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    Phil_D_Rock Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:56 am
    ^^really people like you are F`n stupid as well.

    "just to let everybody know that if you are not an engineer for the wtc or nasa please dont comment on this because it will just annoy people like me."

    DUMBASS

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    BikerTeen Male 13-17
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:58 am
    this lady is stupid
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 12:59 am
    Have we ever been in space?

    Does the internet..REALLY exist? Honestly though, all joking aside. Prove to me it does.

    and wind..what exactly IS wind? I`ve never seen it. Have you? I don`t think it actually exists.


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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:02 am
    AnwarNova is just as funny as that actress
    is the world flat?? need me to prove that to you too??

    you are funny

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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:03 am
    just telling you that you dunno the truth but you might already know the truth

    the good old white saying: YOU NEVER KNOW!!

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    snoopdawgg Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:04 am
    and just calling me a dumbass doesnt prove anything

    you are one of the annoying people who talk trash and does not address the topic of this issue

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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:05 am
    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseCha...

    Debate Settled.

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    aussieguy29 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:05 am
    haha awesome
  14. Profile photo of KoalaMeatPie
    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:06 am
    (Hmm, the link is rather inomnious and prone to people reading it without clicking. Therefore, it is safe for me to say that it is a point by point rebuttle of the "Loose Change" video which is OH!-soo-popular among enlightend 14 year olds and unthinking morons)
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:13 am
    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/...
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    _Requiem_ Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:14 am
    Aww, I thought they said she was in Ma Vie en Rose...I liked that movie.
  17. Profile photo of Phil_D_Rock
    Phil_D_Rock Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:15 am
    Yeah snoopdawgg i called you a dumbass and what of it? I don`t need to address the issue in this case.
    I mean, what do i need to address?
    That the USA went to the moon? we where there.
    That 19 pissed off people attacked my country? They did.
    Now shut up DUMBASS.
  18. Profile photo of Ms_Thang
    Ms_Thang Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:23 am
    Its funny how worked up people get about this crap.

    Everyone has different beliefs, some believe 9-11 was real, others believe it was a conspiracy set up by the gov. Some people believe in god and that god "created all" and others believe in evolution.

    Theres always going to be evidence supporting both sides so let people think w/e they want and get over it.

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    snow113 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:30 am
    She`s a moron. All buildings are not built the same. Therefore, some might fall more easily than others...Oh, especially when you have an airplane filled with fuel crashing into it. I really hope she apologizes as soon as possible and if she doesn`t, no acting companies should hire her to work in the US
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    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:44 am
    Nice, we got 9/11 and Religious beliefs in one page.

    Only thing left is...

    Nice, two birds, one stone.

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    gigglygiggle Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:57 am
    Crazy person..

    1.Buildings-are not like twins.
    2.If you studied BASIC 1st GRADE ASTRONOMY, you`d known better.

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    Zieveraar Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 1:59 am
    No references to the fact that she`s French? It must be a slow day!

    Stupid remarks by her though, typical view of "it didn`t happen then and there, so why did it happen with the WTC? Must be a cover up".

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    sirpsycosexy Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 2:14 am
    ms thang your really very very stupid so how bout you lust go lie down because we wont want you walking into anything dangerous like a wall or something.
    oh yeah, the reason why you are stupid is because the 9/11 conspiricy is a completely differant ball game to religous belief because if it is true (which i doubt btw) then it means that we are ruled by a load of psychotic evil bastards who will kill us on a whim which is slightly more relevant to the world at large than if we go to happy sugarcandy mountain land or nasty dark toasty red land when we die.
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    JannyMN Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 2:24 am
    There`s something on here about the moon landings and someone saying the way they moved in the video while getting up from a fall looked like they were helped by wires. It`s called Proof That the First Moon Landings Were Staged?
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    Zieveraar Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 2:24 am
    After reading a transcript of the interview (haven`t seen it yet, still trying to find a site), it would seem this is getting blown out of proportion.
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    robinbeirne Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 2:56 am
    moon landing 100% fake.
    911, everybody who wasnt directly affected GET OVER IT!
  27. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 3:34 am
    I thought there was a wonderfull thing called freedom of speech. Lets all be sheep and think and do what we are told!
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 3:35 am
    It`s best to have a full shaker of salt.
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    SpoonFork Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 3:38 am
    THOUGHT CRIME! THOUGHT CRIME!
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    morbay32 Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2008 at 3:55 am
    Even better than the guide posted earlier...

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

  31. Profile photo of R_U_Kidding
    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 4:09 am
    Hot French actresses say the darnedest things.
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    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 4:33 am
    "just to let everybody know that if you are not an engineer for the wtc or nasa please dont comment on this because it will just annoy people like me.

    like 99.99% of you all, i dont know 5hit either "

    Popular Mechanics. /debate

    Why did she say it was faked? Let`s see:

    Actor/actress wins award, must give speech. Depending on what they say, they become more popular.

    Anything positive about America: -50000 points
    Talk about how they used an insignificant fraction of their wealth for charity: +1 point
    Pretending to "owe it to" someone: +1 point
    World Peace: +10 points
    Hope for cure for AIDS: +15 points
    Anything related to loving animals: +20 points
    WARDROBE MALFUNCTION: +10000 points
    Pretending to "go green" while still putting out more CO2 than 90% of the world`s population: +15000 points
    Saying F*** JESUS: +20000 points
    Typical I HATE BUSH drivel: +25000 points
    9/11 Conspiracy trash: +30000 points

    What did I miss?

  33. Profile photo of R_U_Kidding
    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 4:43 am
    Bad vibes, man.
  34. Profile photo of love_lover
    love_lover Female 13-17
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    March 4, 2008 at 5:11 am
    AHAHAH you all are fighting over somthing so petty.
  35. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 5:32 am
    love_lover has a point.

    I`ve gotten over it for some time now.

  36. Profile photo of VONLINE
    VONLINE Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 5:42 am
    Maddog,
    I never understood why there`s always one person who cries out "freedom of speech" in defense of these people. It`s not an issue. She has the freedom of speech to say whatever stupid, crazy things she wants. But it`s a two-way street, and everyone else has the freedom of speech to call her a complete moron if they want. Freedom of speech doesn`t protect you from the ridicule of society.
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    stevenash Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 6:16 am
    yup...why would she be bash for her remarks...I mean even U.S. made remarks about other country and people all the time....like how Palestinian are responsible for the Gaza Strip issues...while in fact they`re the one dying...why would they kill their own people????...
    Well actually there are people who would kill thousands and millions of people for power...Hitler..and apparently Bush...for killing innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Somalia...I think if Osama bin Laden went for holiday in antartica, U.S would bomb that too...So maybe someone did plan the whole thing...who knows...or maybe the company that built WTC lied and use some cheap stuff and structure...btw...I really hoped that those innocent people that died of other people`s selfishness can find peace..the WTC victims...iraqis...afghanistans...soldiers...they all died without a cause...they`ve bombed many places but the victims of the explosions was never the terrorist...
  38. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 6:18 am
    Ahh Vonline..there are allways going be people like you who think that people who have a differing opinion should be ostracized and punished. Freedom of speech is VERY much an issue. Just because someone had a diffrent view, it dosnt allways mean they should be punished in someway. Of course..I`m saying this to an American..and we all know that if it`s not Americas way its the wrong way!
  39. Profile photo of B-Hazard
    B-Hazard Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 6:28 am
    Anyone who cites loose change as evidence 9/11 was a lie is just as stupid as someone who cites the media as evidence it was the truth.
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    Apple_18 Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 6:32 am
    I dont know what to believe on the 9/11 or moonlandings...theres so many movies and stories and whatnot about our government lying, i mean, we have even caught presidents in the act! So regardless of weather it was all real or fake i think the government did it all to itself by lying about things in the past...they ruined theyre own credibility in my opinion. However as for this woman, shes entitled to her opinions and i dont believe that makes her dumb or stupid.
  41. Profile photo of VONLINE
    VONLINE Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 6:41 am
    I never said she should be ostracized and punished. I personally never critisized her for what she said. I was just saying OTHER people have the same freedom of speech to say she`s stupid if THEY want. And how, infact, is she being punished? She`s certainly not being punished by the government. I guess you can say she`s being "punished" by ridicule from the collective population. But that comes with the territory that is free speech. I can say that I think eating babies is perfectly moral, but it doesn`t mean I`m going to be popular.
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    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:18 am
    I´m just waiting for the whole debate on whether the holocaust happened or not to come up now
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    JGESS Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:30 am
    fake?? what happened to the 2000+ people who were killed...ask their families how fake they think it was...fawkin retard...some people shouldnt be alowed to leave their house...ever
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    fattpill Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:33 am
    AWWWWEEEEE who the fart cares what she believes in. there are plenty of american who say it is a fake. so freaking what. did the woman act good enough to get an oscar if yes leave her the fart alone. cheese people you are starting to sound like muslim fundametalist. trying to make her believe in the wtc and space.
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    SilentFray Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:35 am
    Being a welding engineer Ive studied about the structure of the twin towers. Even if the jets didn`t tear away the insulation on impact and the jet fuel hadn`t aided the fires, the tower`s would of still fell. It would of bought time though. About 2-3 hours. That would of bought enough time to get everyone out.

    Plus American Engineering can be different than Spanish engineering. (please correct me if i`m wrong about the next statement.) I doubt the tower was as tall as the WTC so right there, there are different components to this. She`s an actor not a designer/tradesman/engineer. what the f*ck does she know.

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    Vikstar Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:39 am
    I hate getting into debates like these.. but..

    I don`t think she means 9/11 was faked. I think like most people she`s apalled that all those innocent people lost their lives, I think what she means is that the situation was somehow engineered (presumably by American goverment) and orchestrated to make what happened, happen.

    Disclaimer: The above does not reflect my personal beliefs, it`s simply an interpretation of her words based on what I know of other 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:45 am
    "She`s an actor not a designer/tradesman/engineer. what the f*ck does she know."

    Nothing other than the evidence presented to her! She`s simply said she`s seen enough evideince though research anyone could do.

    I can ask the same of you..what the f*ck do you know about the moon landing. the answer is nothing other than what you`ve choosen to research!

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    Vikstar Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:49 am
    Dainty - I`d be inclined to agree.
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 7:56 am
    I dont agree. The truth about 9/11 is twisted as best. No one can disagree that there are certain questions that have never been answered and probably never will be!
    I simply have to acknowladge the fact that the world is a far darker and sadder place since that day!
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    msimmons Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:13 am
    I`d also agree with dainty, and extend it to many other conspiracies. Ever heard of the one of the lizard people ruling the world from a secret elite organization involving Bush and the Queen of England?
  51. Profile photo of Stiletto
    Stiletto Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:20 am
    Fire doesn`t melt steel, according to experts like Rosie O`Donnell.

    I guess it just came out of the ground shaped like the World Trade Center. Luck-y!

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    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:27 am
    I`m not coming down on any oaricular side here but it is odd that the WTC towers were DESIGNED to survive the impact of a jet liner

    and furthermore WTC #7 which supposedly "burned down", had fire on only 2 floors and as it stands is the only tower of its size to have been destroyed by fire.

    I think SOMETHING else happened, at least at tower 7 cuz fire can`t cause skyscrapers to collapse, flames just don`t burn hot enough, even with jet fuel, to melt the support girders in any of those towers

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    monkeymynd Female 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:31 am
    For all of you sitting on here and bitching about the people who question the `official` story of 9/11, asking them to prove their theories or not even comment because they aren`t engineers, etc.

    Well, are you an engineer? Can you show proof of why the towers fell? Can you completely debunk things like Loose Change by yourself, w/o citing Popular Mechanics.

    I didn`t think so. So, why not allow people their right to free speech and free thought?

    If you can`t prove your own theory, don`t rag on someone else`s.

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    Lou-Saydus Male 13-17
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:32 am
    Don`t bother arguing with those who haven`t studied the facts. They already know what`s going on :) But in all seriousness, you guys should get the vera chip early, just to be safe from the terrorists. No, really you should.
  55. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:32 am
    @stiletto

    an open flame CAN`T melt steel, it burns several hundred degrees too low, but if you put additives the flame it increases its burn temperature and then it can burn steel, the point is none of those required additives (jet fuel isn`t enough) were present so the fire at ground zero could not have caused that steel to melt.

  56. Profile photo of Stiletto
    Stiletto Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:37 am
    @GH4ND1

    Congratulations, you fell into the trap like every other moron who thinks "fire can`t melt steel" discounts the concept of intense heat generated by a jet fuel fire weakening steel (as in softening like butter, not melting) to the point where the structural integrity is compromised.

    In other words, fire doesn`t melt steel. However, this wasn`t a campfire. It was an accelerated, compacted and contained blaze. That makes steel pretty damn mushy.

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    Stiletto Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:39 am
    "Can you completely debunk things like Loose Change by yourself"

    Listen up, jackasses. It is not our responsibility to prove your theory wrong. It is never the responsibility of another to prove a proposed theory wrong. It is always and appropriately the responsibility of the theorist to prove their theory right or sound.

  58. Profile photo of Stiletto
    Stiletto Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:47 am
    Oh, and don`t forget that even though the US Government was willing to kill 3000 Americans, they refuse to kill the makers of "Loose Change".

    Riiiight.

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    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:52 am
    If the US government were to blow up a very important and valuable building to (supposedly) stir up a war so George W Bush could spend billions of dollars on his own jollies, why wouldn`t the US government have labeled the Iraqi government at fault ("revenge for the Gulf War blah blah blah")" That way, instead of making a merry-go-round of the "terrorists in Afghanistan", we could have taken the direct route to Iraq instead of going to Afghanistan and then take a tangent off that into the current mess we call a war in Iraq?

    It doesn`t make sense. All you "free-thinkers" out there who are "unblinded by government propaganda" better think again.

  60. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:52 am
    Ah conspiracies.
    Lets remember Occam`s Razor. ""All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."

    Its obviously more complicated than that, but its powerful in science.

    Applying it to the 9/11 conspiracy theories, what is more likely?

    That a group of Islamic Terrorists, engaged in Holy War against the U.S., planed and executed several coordinated highjackings and crashed them into the WTC and the Pentagon? (Planes had been easily highjacked before, are not super complicated to fly, and Islamic Terrorists had bombed the WTC before.)

    Or, is it more likely that the U.S. Government, hell-bent on starting a war, secretly planted explosives in the WTC without anyone seeing, falsified the lives of every passenger on the planes who then dissappeared (and those family members who say their family is gone are all liars), remotely piloted 4 planes into their targets (they were all empty), and then also used explosives in the buildings to bring them down

  61. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:53 am
    Which theroy has the most "assumptions?"
    First, steel will soften at high temps. Second, a fricken plane striking a stationary object has a lot of kinetic energy - its going to destroy many steal girders on its own.

    You can believe whatever you want.

    Prove this wrong - "God is a flying spaghetti monster." That is just as likely as a 9/11 conspiracy.

    But, again, if a theroy requires a huge amount of assumptions and a large number of entites, and a competing theory has far less assumptions (we know why the terrorists did it, who they are, and who the victims are, plus they SAY THEY DID IT) THE THEORY USING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ASSUMPTIONS IS LIKELY CORRECT.

  62. Profile photo of yellowsquare
    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 8:56 am
    Anyway, French chick has a right to say what she wants.

    She`s only an actress for goodness` sake. Not like she`s a global diplomat.

    And no, she shouldn`t be banned or blacklisted from Hollywood. Just because she thinks the US government is a conspiracy-factory doesn`t mean she can`t play roles in movies.

  63. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:04 am
    bringing the flying spaghetti monster theory into this is nonsense b/c then you shift the conversation from comparing evidence to disproving something about which no evidence exists, in any case it`s impossible to write off any of these theories because we don`t have evidence to back it up. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. I don`t know what happened at the WTC i was talking about tower 7, the one that wasn`t hit by anything and collapsed because of fire, btw notice how it collapsed in a textbook controlled fall. there wasn`t any special conditions present in that tower that would have allowed the fire to grow hot enough to even weaken steel
  64. Profile photo of ciaran036
    ciaran036 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:09 am
    If you don`t believe everyone then please watch `Zeitgeist: The Movie` on video.google.com. It`s one of the most popular videos on Google Video and will be shown in cinemas and theatres all around the world on the 15th of March... well worth a watch.
  65. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:09 am
    I was talking about assumptions. Someone is quite reactionary. There was no shift, we are talking about assumptions (which posit reality when factual proof IS NOT POSSIBLE). Someone needs some classes on logic.
    In order to have a flying Spaghetti monster, one needs to assume a lot. So too with a 9/11 theory that posits secret government interference rather than stated terrorist intentions.

    Someone needs to practice critical reasoning.

  66. Profile photo of ciaran036
    ciaran036 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:12 am
    How could that affect her career? Feck those who think otherwise!
  67. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:13 am
    My point was, as you said, we can`t prove a negative (Spaghetti monsters, God, Bush caused 9/11), BUT, we sure as $hit can say some theories are crazy and highly unlikely.
  68. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:16 am
    @jerry, the "stated terrorist intention" that you refer to, i.e. the video released shortly after the attacks has been debunked as a forgery for years and the man that is "Bin Laden" looks really nothing like the man. And with all the times America has used flag-waving to get us into wars: Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, The Maine, Attacks on settlers by Indians, Mexicans et al... is it really that much of an assumption that the government would do it all again especially considering all of these instances were either flat out lies or results from a combination of America`s failure to act upon intelligence and a foreign policy that could be viewed as hostile at best and warmongering at worst
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    Wey_Pooh Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:29 am
    oh great. the media twisting people`s words again... oh who cares about 9/11. people died, yes. instead of looking at conspiracies, let the authority find out who did it and make them pay.
  70. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:29 am
    Look, believe what you like. None are so blind as those who won`t see. Anything is possible, some things are just unlikely.

    My entire point is, the more assumptions you have to make, the further from the truth you get. If we believe the official account, there are not many assumptions.

    We know who did it, we know where they sought flight training, we know what plane they got on, and we know who else was on those planes. To say otherwise is to assume a lot which cannot be proven.

    NOW, using the tradgedy for political game is an ENTIRELY seperate issue. But, because Bush used the tragedy as an excuse to goto war does not mean that the tragedy was anything other than a terrorist attack.

    You are conflating the two. I agree with you, Replublicans were secretly happy they could get a war. That doesn`t mean they manufactured 9/11.

  71. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:32 am
    Same thing with Pearl harbor. Sure, intelligence dropped the ball on that, BUT do you think the US was secretly gearing up for war? How do you explain the years of isolationist policies pre-pearl harbor then? Wasn`t pearl harbor just an attack by a foreign nation on the US that woke the giant up? In that sense it is like 9/11. But you aren`t suggesting the president secretly wanted to enter WWII, are you?
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    GeN_Ex Male 13-17
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    March 4, 2008 at 9:53 am
    9/11 happened. Closed.
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    grassclip Male 18-29
    88 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 10:00 am
    A few years ago, all the asbestos in the two towers was taken out due to "safety reasons" (even though it was perfectally safe in the walls). If it was left where it was, the world trade centers wouldn`t have fallen down.
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    shamille Female 18-29
    831 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 10:04 am
    yesss i can hate her even more.
  75. Profile photo of vilem
    vilem Male 18-29
    372 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 10:20 am
    Who cares. let her believe whatever the hell she wants to.
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    jetmark Male 30-39
    1024 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 10:59 am
    @ Stiletto

    "Fire doesn`t melt steel, according to experts like Rosie O`Donnell.
    I guess it just came out of the ground shaped like the World Trade Center. Luck-y!"

    Dunno anything about R.O`D.
    However, I do know that a hydrocarbon fire (jet fuel) does not burn hot enough to melt steel. Omission of important little details like these that just sounds a little dumb.

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    Jaydeejj Female 70 & Over
    713 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 11:03 am
    "9/11 happened. Closed."

    DUH! That`s obvious!

    She`s allowed to believe what she wants. Has anyone mentioned the American celebs that also believe 9/11 was staged? She`s only getting flack because she is not American and she just won an Oscar.

    Because she`s made this statement, she comes off as "unamerican." We can`t have people saying anything about out country now can we. If they do, they`re either terrorist, or communist!

    Is it 1962 already!?

  78. Profile photo of Stiletto
    Stiletto Male 18-29
    95 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 11:19 am
    "However, I do know that a hydrocarbon fire (jet fuel) does not burn hot enough to melt steel."

    And for the 836th time, it didn`t have to melt. It had to weaken enough to compromise the integrity of the girders to support the superstructure. Hence the inward collapse.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3369 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 11:29 am
    I think nearly everyone here has acctually missed what point she was making!There are a lot of "facts" about 9/11 that dont add up and still dont. these are not to do with the acctual towers falling down but events before, during and after.

    To many people, as proven in this thread, dont have all the facts!

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    angelicamber Female 18-29
    1572 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 12:09 pm
    my goodness....what?!
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 12:18 pm
    Allright, as I said in another post, if I had a gun, I`d shoot her, I`m serious, I really would. Animals have more sense than this.

    Now, based on what Ive seen here, I can see that the oscar is not worth winning.

    Also, Johnny Depp is starting to look like Michael Jackson, which is a shame cause he did a good job in POTC.

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    notsoevil Female 18-29
    101 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 12:56 pm
    A conspiracy afoot?


  83. Profile photo of vilem
    vilem Male 18-29
    372 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 1:09 pm
    lazyme: you`d shoot someone for having a different oppinion? i dont buy into any of this conspiracy stuff but what you said is just as stupid as anything she`s spouted.
    Except for the johnny depp thing, thats unfortunately true.
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    ghostofme Male 18-29
    516 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 1:38 pm
    Koala, thank you for posting the link to Maddox. I was hoping someone would do it before I did!
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    LemonTarte Female 18-29
    1441 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 1:50 pm
    Oh no! Marion Cottilard I was rooting for you to make it big! It`s kinda sad that she believes in this. It makes her seem really dumb.
  86. Profile photo of SilentFray
    SilentFray Female 18-29
    678 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 2:05 pm
    "A few years ago, all the asbestos in the two towers was taken out due to "safety reasons" (even though it was perfectally safe in the walls). If it was left where it was, the world trade centers wouldn`t have fallen down."

    Not true. if the asbestos was still there, It would of bought enough time to evacuate everyone but saving...no. The metal of the towers were under extreme heat, that caused a structural change in the iron making it brittle. Plus there was a problem with who they assembled the floors.

    Plus there is proof that we went to the moon. When Apollo mission landed they set up a series of mirrors so that NASA can monitor the orbit of the moon. we still use those lasers today. Also i`ve heard people say that if you have a good telescope that you can see where they landed.

  87. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    stiletto

    ok man i don`t know if you`re left but things have cooled down some so we might could have an intelligent conversation.

    here`s the scoop on pearl harbor, so first of we cut of US and European oil to japan using our navy and naval outposts which by any definition constitutes a blockade and a declaration of war as such. The Australians warned us of a Japanese battle group coming to pearl harbor days ahead of time but nothing was done, who knows why.

    anyway back to 9/11, this is something that i don`t know why noone has entertained the thought of, the two theories can both coexist if certain omissions are made, with our intelligence we could have tracked the soon to be pilots to when they got their tickets, then we know flight times and plans, like the NATO flight exercises that drated up all attempts to spoil the attack could be made. I believe Bush went into office wanting war b/c historically war presidents are re-elected and i think after everything that we now know.

  88. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    bush is unbalanced if not rooster-nut insane. If you want to go to war and know you`ll be attacked is there any better war than to appear the victim so you can claim the road of crusader for peace. Perhaps America didn`t DO the attacks but i believe we saw them coming and perhaps either remained apatheitic to any attempts to prevent them or even (possibly) helped the attacks become effective, through planting evidence (like the bin laden video or pilot`s passport) or even going to far as cutting support beams for the towers, i can give you links to these pictures of girders in the towers that have been cut at 45 degree angles if you`re at all interested. And, in my opinion the cuts are far too precise to be by chance.

    Whether you agree or not I thank god that we can both have our respective viewpoints because without ppl like you there would be anarchy and without ppl like me there would be a dictatorship.

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    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    hah i typed c*ck and it came out rooster, so for the record i meant c*ck nut crazy
  90. Profile photo of EstiloPanama
    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
    2074 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm
    There is a conspiracy around 9/11, but it`s not around whether it happened or not. It clearly happened. A few things did not.

    And in regards to the moon thing...I`m not one hundred percent sure it happened, either. But I lean more toward the `it happened` realm. At least...I hope.

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    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
    2074 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    Oh yea, and Bush = Total moronic foul-faced freak.
  92. Profile photo of EstiloPanama
    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
    2074 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    And by the way, in regards to that picture a few posts above...those are some of the worse `cosplayers` EVER! LOL
  93. Profile photo of paperplate
    paperplate Male 13-17
    48 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 3:55 pm
    This stuff happens at my school plenty of kids act like they know about stuff when really they don`t... :\
  94. Profile photo of ttsec
    ttsec Male 18-29
    666 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:21 pm
    ^ Don`t ALL kids act like they know stuff when thy really don`t?
  95. Profile photo of mlchris
    mlchris Female 18-29
    920 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:37 pm
    How bout we think of it this way...

    9/11 happened 7 years ago. It`s done, get over it.

    Did we land on the moon? Maybe, maybe not? Who cares. Though...if we did land on the moon, how come we havent sent anyone back there since then?

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:38 pm
    What do you expect from someone who portrayed a crack addict? Elle une grande idiot!

    And here is my conspiracy theory. The government set up all the conspiracy theories to not appear weak. Think about it. If we get attacked we appear weak, if we attack ourselves, thats bad ass.

    And I dont think people realize Bushes master plan.

    The whole idiot thing is just an act. You people dont remember him as the Owner of the Texas Rangers and dont look back at the sports interview he has had. Its obvious, he is faking stupidity. But why? Think. Every president dreams of war. War started the "Cool" era (Coolidge) It ended the Great Depression, and it sells movies. But why would stupidity help? Its obvious that they haven`t communicated why we are at war or the downside of leaving. We just focus on the bad. That means that we all protest. Other Nations see this and say "hey Americans might not be so stupid, maybe its just their government"

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:40 pm
    So we create a situation where the world hates the president, but not the people. The government can go to war all it wants and the world thinks its the governments fault but the people their have the right idea. Thats called making a cake, and eating it too.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9308 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:45 pm
    Who would vote for me if I ran for world emperor?
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    littlexmew Female 13-17
    131 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:49 pm
    Yes.. many innocent people died.. and they`re families can say it was all just a fake..
  100. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 4:54 pm
    ^
    ^

    nope Bush is just a plain old-fashioned idiot

    And how does killing your own people make you badass? In my book that just makes you crazy. If i was in, say, Britain, and all of the sudden an ally just started killing there own people I would get the hell away from them ASAP, and i know history doesn`t support this course of action but in history none of those nations have ever shown there willingness to drop a nuke. If someone is willing to kill their own people what is to stop them from killing mine?

    That kind of madness rectifies a necessity for destruction, such disregard for human life is simply abhorrent, unfortunately i believe that is the era we will reach right before the age of enlightenment.

    but if we can survive through that time then i think we`re in for some smooth sailing for a millenia or so.

  101. Profile photo of Red5TheFinn
    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
    1556 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 5:01 pm
    This is the interwebz. We have the right to say our opinions as long as they dont offend anybody.

    Personally i think that 9/11 was a fake and they detonated it from the inside. If you watch it in frame by frame you will see.

  102. Profile photo of Nidonemo
    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9308 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 5:02 pm
    GH4ND1: So you`re saying we will reach an age of enlightenment after a large-scale disaster?
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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
    1556 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    Primetime
    Doin whateva we can to survive on the raw streets of the SUBURBS

    Raw thuggin

    old jeezhead most annoying guy alive

    gggggggg-g backpack!

  104. Profile photo of B-Hazard
    B-Hazard Male 18-29
    2958 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    It may be pure coincidence, primetimekin, but both of those ideas:
    "The government set up all the conspiracy theories to not appear weak. " and "So we create a situation where the world hates the president, but not the people. The government can go to war all it wants and the world thinks its the governments fault but the people their have the right idea."
    are from South Park.

    Not saying you took them from it, just saying it really looks like you did because you put it pretty much exactly how it was put in the show.

  105. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm
    I`ll admit I did. (Puts head down) But I find behind all that satire, it seems feasible. And Like I asked you Red in another post, do you even know what thug life means?
  106. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 7:06 pm
    when has enlightenment arisen from anything other than a disaster? Whether a disaster of war or an age of ignorance or of dilution ultimately only through recognition of our wrongs do we find and commit to progress
  107. Profile photo of robbery525
    robbery525 Male 13-17
    329 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 7:11 pm
    if she wantrs to think that let her. she has a right to an opinion.
  108. Profile photo of headwound
    headwound Male 13-17
    559 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 7:17 pm
    wow no france bashing whatsoever, I`m proud of you, IAB. also, that woman is retarded but she can say whatever she wants cuz dis iz `merka.
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    aBISS Male 13-17
    506 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 7:24 pm
    what a dumb b*tch
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 8:03 pm
    Well, if it comes from the the lips of a movie actor, by God that`s good enough for me!
  111. Profile photo of GH4ND1
    GH4ND1 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 8:14 pm
    Headwound: Does that mean we get a cookie???!?!?!
  112. Profile photo of adilicious
    adilicious Female 13-17
    377 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 8:25 pm
    Who cares?
    This just makes her like the other million people in the U.S. who think the same thing.

    It`s not any more important just because a girl who knows how to act is saying it.

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    kcpd2050 Male 40-49
    330 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 11:14 pm
    The one saving grace is that she`s....what`s the word I`m looking for???....oh yeah! AN ACTRESS!!!! Who gives a crap what she thinks LOL. I know I base all my deep thinking on what some silly dink from Hollywood says.
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    Pilanus Male 18-29
    675 posts
    March 4, 2008 at 11:26 pm
    You want proof of the moon landings, take a high quality telescope, and look at the moon, you can see the US flag.

    and as for (/11 how the hell could it have been faked... unless David Copperfield was in town doing a show, and accidentally destroyed the towers instead of making the Lion disapear...

    It was all David Copperfield`s Fault!!! ITS A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU! HE IS WORKING WITH THE ALIENS TO ANALLY PROBE US IN THEIR ANTI-CHRISTIAN ,HITLER SUPPORTING, UFO`S!

  115. Profile photo of Declan191919
    Declan191919 Male 13-17
    1275 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 3:24 am
    Well she never attacked the subject
  116. Profile photo of Declan191919
    Declan191919 Male 13-17
    1275 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 3:24 am
    She never came ou like IT DIDNT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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    John_Mclane Male 18-29
    31 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 4:47 am
    @ Dainty: you forgot about native americans.....;)
  118. Profile photo of shiggin
    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 7:46 am
    Fcuk sake whats the point of putting this shyt up? Onestly, dont u now that friggin 18 pages of hatred is going to be burned here
    Fcuk u dont know how to run a site
  119. Profile photo of gorgack2000
    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
    4682 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 10:10 am
    Free speech? It`s what she believes, even if it is about something as sensitive as 9/11.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 11:57 am
    And, what she says is absolutely retarded.
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
    868 posts
    March 5, 2008 at 7:40 pm
    She`s French- what else need be said ..French = stupid
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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
    4246 posts
    March 7, 2008 at 2:45 am
    Awww, rogue_knight ruins everything. No cookie for you.
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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
    319 posts
    August 3, 2008 at 2:31 pm
    Wow. If a French entertainer says it`s a conspiracy, who am I to argue?

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