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  1. Profile photo of ttsec
    ttsec Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    Link: Elephant Paints Self Portait - This elephant is a better artist than me.
  2. Profile photo of karenina
    karenina Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:32 pm
    dayum...
    maybe it`s trained?
  3. Profile photo of LBlues
    LBlues Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:34 pm
    my god that`s excellent
  4. Profile photo of omg209
    omg209 Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:37 pm
    saw it already
  5. Profile photo of omg209
    omg209 Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:37 pm
    giggity
  6. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:38 pm
    That`s amazing.
    Animals are much more intelligent than we give them credit for.

    The people going "Oh my God... Oh my goodness, wow!" was funny though.

  7. Profile photo of BikerTeen
    BikerTeen Male 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:38 pm
    very cool
  8. Profile photo of MadP
    MadP Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:39 pm
    Jesus Christ!

    Is that real? Or have we just been had?

    That`s amazing. I hope it`s real because then we really can`t pull any more of that whole "humans are the only animals that are self aware" nonsense

  9. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm
    Why can`t it be real?
  10. Profile photo of dianne
    dianne Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    I would buy that painting. Really.
  11. Profile photo of WinstonS
    WinstonS Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    It`s incredible even if it was trained to do the same picture, wich seems not be the case given the other paintings been shown around.

    Animal art. My brain will jump off from my skull...

  12. Profile photo of MadP
    MadP Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:45 pm
    Cuz it`s April Fools Day.

    I`m just covering my ass

  13. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:48 pm
    Haha!
    It`s not uncommon for elephants to be taught to paint, actually.
  14. Profile photo of staberind
    staberind Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:50 pm
    Whatever the reasoning behind it, I was spellbound.
  15. Profile photo of Okasen
    Okasen Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:51 pm
    I hate the "these animals are abused lololll" comments. Yes, in circus preformances they are chained up and beaten, but this elephant seemed perfectly happy with it.

    And on a side note... i`m at the top of my art class about.. and this ellie beats me out when it comes to drawing legs and flowers. It was beautiful.

  16. Profile photo of DeSheaaaaa
    DeSheaaaaa Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:51 pm
    Interesting...

    I think it is trained.

  17. Profile photo of karenina
    karenina Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:52 pm
    if they ARE taught to paint, which is likely,the way they hold the brush is mind-blowing. The trunk is actually used as a hand, and the sides of the brush are pressed against the canvas at different angles! The flower at the end is my favorite part. Also, the legs.
  18. Profile photo of karenina
    karenina Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    Okasen, you can`t really tell when an elephant is happy, especially when only the trunk is focused.
  19. Profile photo of Shellie84
    Shellie84 Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:53 pm
    I thought it was just gonna be a crappy splatter painting that looked nothing like an elephant... but I`m impressed!
  20. Profile photo of patthebaker
    patthebaker Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 10:59 pm
    first they use brushes now its a matter of time till they are weilding chainsaws
  21. Profile photo of DragonSageX
    DragonSageX Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:00 pm
    ...April Fool`s? Photoshopped? I`d be skeptical of Jesus` Resurrection on this day.
  22. Profile photo of SGC2C
    SGC2C Male 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    Pretty cool, I can`t imagine what it would take to train an elephant to paint even if it is only replicating the same painting over and over. WinstonS they showed multiple paintings but you could also see multiple elephants meaning each one may replicate their own unique painting but I could be wrong.
  23. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:03 pm
    ...April Fool`s? Photoshopped? I`d be skeptical of Jesus` Resurrection on this day.
    It`s not April Fool`s yet.
  24. Profile photo of the_windy
    the_windy Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    *cries*
    The poor paint brush. D:
  25. Profile photo of Neon_Fedora
    Neon_Fedora Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    ;-() WOW :O JUST WOW!
  26. Profile photo of Groogle
    Groogle Male 30-39
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:17 pm
    Looks like a fake because the camera focus way too much on the trunk ( Which may be a hand disguised to look like a trunk ) with some special effect and the blending of the two videos some people could come up with a video like that.

    If the elephant is trained to paint like that it`s kinda sad because you just know that the elephant was litteraly brutalised into submition to perform such a trick. Just like in circuses.

    If it`s real and they`re doing this on their own... I for one welcome our new pachiderme overlords.

  27. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:21 pm
    Jesus, people act as though animals are retarded or something.

    Elephants are highly intelligent creatures. It is not impossible for one to have done this. As for focusing too much on the trunk, ever think maybe they were just focusing on the picture?

    If someone really wanted to trick people, wouldn`t they have made the painting a lot more extravagent?

  28. Profile photo of karenina
    karenina Female 13-17
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:25 pm
    "If someone really wanted to trick people, wouldn`t they have made the painting a lot more extravagent?"

    Uh, no... then it would be harder to trick people. It`s hard enough as it is for some to believe it`s the elephant.

    I`m not saying it`s a trick, but I can see where he comes from...

  29. Profile photo of dragonshadoz
    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    March 31, 2008 at 11:28 pm
    I suppose, but there have been hoaxes with other things before that have been extravagent.
    Which, yes, is strange, but some people do it...
  30. Profile photo of vilem
    vilem Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:11 am
    Beter than i could do for sure, and when he started painting the third leg i was thinkin "thats probably being a little generous buddy" but than i realized he was doing 3D legs and was extreamly impressed.
  31. Profile photo of binxyboo
    binxyboo Female 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:13 am
    But how do we know it was a self portrait, and not a portrait of one of his elephant freinds?
  32. Profile photo of Oshidutako
    Oshidutako Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:14 am
    Awesome.
  33. Profile photo of richoricho
    richoricho Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:36 am
    Simply amazing
  34. Profile photo of cruxshadows
    cruxshadows Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:41 am
    I Dont Think It Is A Fake And Whether Or Not He Was Trained, It`s Still Amazing! I Loved This Video.
  35. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 2:22 am
    I`m impressed that they understand symbolism.

    It might be trained to hold a paintbrush but I don`t think it`s trained as to what to paint. I`ve seen this thing before and the elephants come up with what they paint themselves.

  36. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 2:26 am
    And I agree with binxyboo. The elephant doesn`t know what it looks like, more likely it was drawing another elephant.

    They are my favourite animal and one of the smartest animals around.

    I suspect that we might be the fourth most intelligent species on this planet, rather than the third.

  37. Profile photo of Victor_Watts
    Victor_Watts Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 3:51 am
    Teiso.... no effing way an elephant paints that without training.

    And this isnt the only elephant that can paint. This one might be trained a lot more precisely than the other ones though. They`re trained to do all kinds of silly chit like playing football, beating drums, balancing themselves on two legs on chairs while moving their trunks in hula hoops, etc

    The elephant just does what its master conditions him to do repeatedly, there is no deep thought process behind what he`s doing.

    Having said that, its still pretty cool to watch.

  38. Profile photo of Victor_Watts
    Victor_Watts Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:10 am
    Oh, and another interesting tidbit - there are only 4 species that are known to recognize themselves in the mirror - humans, chimps, dolphins, and............. elephants.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/3...

  39. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:21 am
    Do you know that for sure, Victor?

    I`m not saying that I do know for sure, and thinking about it, you`re probably right, I`m just wondering if it`s an informed fact or your opinion.

    And I`m willing to agree that that particular elephant was trained. But I did see a website once about an elephant painting its own stuff, without being shown what to paint. It used negative space rather than drawing a clear outline and it wasn`t as precise as that elephant`s picture, and it perhaps painted aspects of the pictures that we would`ve left out and didn`t paint it how we would`ve painted it, but it definately wasn`t just random lines and blotches on a canvas, either.

    I am aware that just because it was on the internet doesn`t make it true, so I`m not saying that elephants can absolutely definately without a doubt paint, I`m just wondering what you know about it. If there`s any animals I can believe is capable of it, it`s elephants and apes.

  40. Profile photo of Trizz
    Trizz Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:22 am
    Fk me! I don`t know what to say!
  41. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:50 am
    Hey! Not Bad! Elephant makes a good artist. But elephants ARE mammals, they`re quite smart. We`ve seen a whole load of things dogs can do...

    Anyway, clearly it was trained, clearly. But what does that matter? Its still awesome.

  42. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:51 am
    teiso > you could have said all that in 1 sentance.
  43. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:08 am
    Yeah, I probably could`ve. But I can`t be bothered editing.
  44. Profile photo of dragonwei
    dragonwei Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:17 am
    I don`t see how this can be staged.

    1. There isn`t any cuts in the video.
    2. Although he only focused on the trunk which some people might think that it is a himan hand, there are foreigners watching.
    3. We could see that the elephant is TRAINED and that it already drew quite a few pictures.

    What really amazed me was that it knows where to stop the lines and when it drew the ground, it totally blew me off. It knows how to connect the ground to the feet.

    This video is really good! :)

  45. Profile photo of dragonwei
    dragonwei Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:20 am
    Also, whether he is drawing another elephant or himself, does it matter? An elephant being able to draw. An elephant being able to draw. An elephant being able to draw!!!!

    Come on people. Stop squabbling over minor details.

    Sorry for double post. LOL

  46. Profile photo of Robinski9
    Robinski9 Female 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:28 am
    I think it`s altered (superimposed elephant`s trunk over a human hand painting). However, I think it`s a great video. If it gets us to stop poaching those magestic creatures, I`m all for it.
  47. Profile photo of FxyRoxy777
    FxyRoxy777 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:39 am
    he paints better than most people. that was awesome
  48. Profile photo of badnusty
    badnusty Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 6:04 am
    you could see that there were people holding up boards with drawings of elephants and flowers for the elephants to copy from...besides the proportions were waaaaaaaaaay off
  49. Profile photo of _Perfection_
    _Perfection_ Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 6:33 am
    Act Swiftly Awesome Packaderm
  50. Profile photo of Yoma4
    Yoma4 Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 7:23 am
    I submitted this, yesterday! =/
  51. Profile photo of ttsec
    ttsec Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am
    ^ I submitted this last week. You need to be faster. Speed is everything. Do not fight the internets, you must embrace it. That is how you win in life. You must eat, sleep, drink, and crap the internet. You must be one with the internet. When you can snatch this pebble from my hand...
  52. Profile photo of RPossum
    RPossum Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 8:09 am
    this blew my mind...my only question was did the Elephant draw it from imagination or was it trained to do that design? But wow either way, double wow if that was just the elephant thinking it up.
  53. Profile photo of Camelnoise
    Camelnoise Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:04 am
    Fake. You could see the seams in the fake elephant trunk.
  54. Profile photo of BrokenJohn
    BrokenJohn Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:21 am
    I submitted this two days ago. :(
  55. Profile photo of Rainbow_Haze
    Rainbow_Haze Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:30 am
    Amazing!!!
  56. Profile photo of jetmark
    jetmark Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:31 am
    wish i could draw with my nose.

    amazing. i love elephants.

  57. Profile photo of flamingbambi
    flamingbambi Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:32 am
    i think it`s amazing ^^ and cute!
  58. Profile photo of jetmark
    jetmark Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:33 am
    @ binxyboo HAHA!
  59. Profile photo of VikingGuy
    VikingGuy Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:54 am
    whatever the reasoning,that was purely amazing
  60. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 10:20 am
    My IQ went up 4 my self-esteem dropped 6...
  61. Profile photo of EstiloPanama
    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 11:10 am
    I`ve read in National Geographic that elephants are very, very intelligent creatures that are aware of `self`, so when they see themselves in the mirror, the know they are looking at themselves, and not another elephant or something. But yea, this is pretty beautiful.
  62. Profile photo of KoalaMeatPie
    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 11:53 am
    It doesn`t know what it`s doing.
    It was trainned to do this.
    It has no clue about signs of love, such as holding up a flower, or perspective.
    Look at the way it drew the ear, that was abstract, Elephants have no concept of abstract.

    It was trainned to do this, pure and simple, it has no idea what the lines represent. This is not natural. You want to see natural elephant paintings?:

    http://www.solsup.com.au/greenman/elepha...

    That`s what they look like.

  63. Profile photo of ttsec
    ttsec Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 11:58 am
    ^ They have no sense of abstract, yet the link you show is abstract art. It`s clearly an abstract representation of love.
  64. Profile photo of KoalaMeatPie
    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 12:04 pm
    ttsec -

    ...
    You don`t know the first thing about art.

    It isn`t "Abstract art" It`s scribbles. Thats all. Doodles. It doesn`t represent or mean anything.

    It doesn`t Have a concept of Abstract - it just scribbled lines on a piece of paper.

    It`s people like you who see anything in a Frame and deem it "art".

  65. Profile photo of ttsec
    ttsec Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 12:16 pm
    ^ That elephant built all this pulley system using elephant engineering, and every line had clear purpose. It is real art.
  66. Profile photo of Assimilate13
    Assimilate13 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 12:34 pm
    I think the jury is still out on this one, and it may be a very long time until we have an answer about whether this was "natural" or "trained" behavior.

    However, it does seem that some animals DO in fact have a concept of representation, and this has come out in their paintings. "Apple Chase" by the gorilla Michael is the most obvious (and probably most cited) example of this:

    "Michael had a dog named Apple, with whom he loved to play chase. He executed the painting at left from memory using black and white pigments, the color of Apple`s coat, although he had a large selection of colors to choose from. "

    See the painting, and the picture of the dog, here:

    http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits....

    I want to believe.

  67. Profile photo of bassstud09
    bassstud09 Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 12:39 pm
    NO.

    it was TRAINED. geeze you guys are dumb.

    Elephants cannot appreciate art. Their brains cannot comprehend it. Art is a man made creation, over thousands of years of evolution. Thats just common anthropology.

    Koala is completely right.

    and the smartest animal in the world is a chimp.

    And a chimp cant appreciate art!


    GOD i cant believe people actually think this animal can paint and enjoy art on it`s own!! LOLOLOL what a bunch of TARDS

  68. Profile photo of bassstud09
    bassstud09 Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 12:56 pm
    and assimilate

    your link refers to an animal who splotched ink on a piece of paper.

    Man, using their ability to make shapes into pictures, see images in the paint. The resemblance you see in "apple chase", is pure coincidental.

  69. Profile photo of Assimilate13
    Assimilate13 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:20 pm
    That is the first time I`d seen the painting next to the picture of the dog - I actually saw a documentary about this a while ago. Don`t get me wrong, I`m not cashing in my chips here - I`m a skeptic, pure and simple. As I said, I WANT to believe.

    There are, however, a few things that make one think when it comes to "Apple Chase":
    1. It is not ink, it is paint, and the gorilla had the whole spectrum of colors from which to choose.
    2. Michael is one of those primates that has been taught sign language. Now, I agree that the discussion over whether or not this is "conversation" is tenuous at best. But, Michael painted this picture, and was asked, in sign, what the painting was AFTER it was completed, to which he replied "Apple Chase".
    3. The picture is a swirl of black and white - as if indicating movement. This may be a representation of the movement Michael associated with playing Chase with Apple. Or it may not...

  70. Profile photo of Assimilate13
    Assimilate13 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:21 pm
    ...I’m just not willing to shut out any options yet. Humans like to think we’ve got the whole world figured out, but we’re just in our beginning stages as a species, and while we’ve come rather far, we still have a lot to learn.

    With all this being said, there is certainly an argument to be made regarding the detail of the painting done by the elephant vs. that of the gorilla. One would think that an animal with fingers would be able to capture the same amount of detail, if not more, than an animal using its trunk.

  71. Profile photo of Assimilate13
    Assimilate13 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 1:21 pm
    Sorry for the long post. I need to learn to be more succinct, it seems.
  72. Profile photo of Mantistador
    Mantistador Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 2:16 pm
    holy crap thats amazing, that flower was the best.
  73. Profile photo of Yoma4
    Yoma4 Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 2:20 pm
    ttsec -
    Sorry, okay, when I see myself crapping internets I might get a submission through.

    Do you think the canvas could have pencil lines drawn on it and the elephant just tracing it over?
    But the flower was gorgeous.

  74. Profile photo of Jujubean3333
    Jujubean3333 Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 4:14 pm
    dang, thats so good its scary!
  75. Profile photo of shiggin
    shiggin Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:13 pm
    Fing amazing
    Period
  76. Profile photo of imadork04
    imadork04 Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 5:19 pm
    Oh my gorsh! Omg!
    That elephant put my drawing skills to shame
    Hmmmm.... kinda skeptical though....
  77. Profile photo of Myxgyglplx
    Myxgyglplx Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    Trained or not, that`s pretty freakin` cool.

    I used to be a vegetarian. If I saw a cow do this, I might become one again. ;-)

  78. Profile photo of KoalaMeatPie
    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 7:53 pm
    bassstud09 - Screenshotted, I`m seeing a trend that more and mroe people are agreeing with me to blance out the people calling me a kook.

    Galileo Galilei was also concidered a Kook.

    I`m Screenshotting these and starting an album.

  79. Profile photo of Lorynne
    Lorynne Female 13-17
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    April 1, 2008 at 8:46 pm
    Trained or not, that elephant kicks ass. If it can paint nicer than me, then I don`t care if it was trained!
  80. Profile photo of Charizzo
    Charizzo Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:05 pm
    Wow... I`ve seen videos of elephants die from hunting. Like they get shot and instantly flop to the ground... Terrible, actually.

    I refuse to believe that this elephant can paint that... But then again, elephants do have the best memory in the world.

  81. Profile photo of ilovetristan
    ilovetristan Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2008 at 9:30 pm
    That`s seriously amazing. I wonder if they have other elephants that can paint like that, or if it`s just that one.
  82. Profile photo of Noobfruit
    Noobfruit Male 13-17
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    April 2, 2008 at 5:04 pm
    Wow, that was great. I would buy that picture.
  83. Profile photo of omggilyy
    omggilyy Female 13-17
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    April 2, 2008 at 9:47 pm
    that was amazing O.O
    even if it was trained its still
    so effing mindblowing lol
  84. Profile photo of omggilyy
    omggilyy Female 13-17
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    April 2, 2008 at 10:00 pm
    that was amazing O.O
    even if it was trained its still
    so effing midblowing lol
  85. Profile photo of Assimilate13
    Assimilate13 Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2008 at 7:45 am
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/ele...
  86. Profile photo of ashwey
    ashwey Female 13-17
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    April 3, 2008 at 5:15 pm
    wowie.
  87. Profile photo of nicc1
    nicc1 Male 18-29
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    April 6, 2008 at 3:27 am
    nothing to say now ass said it all ^^^^^^
    good sh*t ass
  88. Profile photo of swankdat
    swankdat Female 13-17
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    April 6, 2008 at 3:26 pm
    horton hears a who! LOL
    and i doubt this is fake since the whole video was uncut
  89. Profile photo of Daviduk
    Daviduk Male 18-29
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    April 7, 2008 at 5:01 am
    They get elephants to dance and stand on their heads and paint and stuff. It takes an elephant a whole week in `the crush`. Basically a crush cage where they keep stabbing it and gouging its eyes until it can` t stand. Then when it falls down and then they hit it to show them that it can`t sit down until they say so. They then release it into the village for the locals to run after and hit it. It`s called the jaan - means breaking the elephants spirit. It is a local culture that the thais think is ok to do. The saddest thing is it can only be done to babies less than one year old and goes on for months. This sort of thing should not be allowed THE VIDEO SHOULD BE REMOVED FOR THAT REASON

  90. Profile photo of fluffyhoob
    fluffyhoob Female 18-29
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    April 19, 2008 at 6:51 pm
    why are people bitching whether the elephant was trained or not? seriously! even humans train or practise to get good at drawing ffs

    end of the day you cant improve on something that isn`t there.

  91. Profile photo of KoalaMeatPie
    KoalaMeatPie Male 18-29
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    April 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    Fluffy, you`re missing the paint entirly.

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