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end of the day you cant improve on something that isn`t there.
I refuse to believe that this elephant can paint that... But then again, elephants do have the best memory in the world.
Galileo Galilei was also concidered a Kook.
I`m Screenshotting these and starting an album.
I used to be a vegetarian. If I saw a cow do this, I might become one again. ;-)
Do you think the canvas could have pencil lines drawn on it and the elephant just tracing it over? But the flower was gorgeous.
With all this being said, there is certainly an argument to be made regarding the detail of the painting done by the elephant vs. that of the gorilla. One would think that an animal with fingers would be able to capture the same amount of detail, if not more, than an animal using its trunk.
There are, however, a few things that make one think when it comes to "Apple Chase":1. It is not ink, it is paint, and the gorilla had the whole spectrum of colors from which to choose.2. Michael is one of those primates that has been taught sign language. Now, I agree that the discussion over whether or not this is "conversation" is tenuous at best. But, Michael painted this picture, and was asked, in sign, what the painting was AFTER it was completed, to which he replied "Apple Chase".3. The picture is a swirl of black and white - as if indicating movement. This may be a representation of the movement Michael associated with playing Chase with Apple. Or it may not...
your link refers to an animal who splotched ink on a piece of paper.
Man, using their ability to make shapes into pictures, see images in the paint. The resemblance you see in "apple chase", is pure coincidental.
it was TRAINED. geeze you guys are dumb.
Elephants cannot appreciate art. Their brains cannot comprehend it. Art is a man made creation, over thousands of years of evolution. Thats just common anthropology.
Koala is completely right.
and the smartest animal in the world is a chimp.
And a chimp cant appreciate art!
GOD i cant believe people actually think this animal can paint and enjoy art on it`s own!! LOLOLOL what a bunch of TARDS
However, it does seem that some animals DO in fact have a concept of representation, and this has come out in their paintings. "Apple Chase" by the gorilla Michael is the most obvious (and probably most cited) example of this:
"Michael had a dog named Apple, with whom he loved to play chase. He executed the painting at left from memory using black and white pigments, the color of Apple`s coat, although he had a large selection of colors to choose from. "
See the painting, and the picture of the dog, here:
I want to believe.
...You don`t know the first thing about art.
It isn`t "Abstract art" It`s scribbles. Thats all. Doodles. It doesn`t represent or mean anything.
It doesn`t Have a concept of Abstract - it just scribbled lines on a piece of paper.
It`s people like you who see anything in a Frame and deem it "art".
It was trainned to do this, pure and simple, it has no idea what the lines represent. This is not natural. You want to see natural elephant paintings?:
That`s what they look like.
amazing. i love elephants.
Come on people. Stop squabbling over minor details.
Sorry for double post. LOL
1. There isn`t any cuts in the video.2. Although he only focused on the trunk which some people might think that it is a himan hand, there are foreigners watching.3. We could see that the elephant is TRAINED and that it already drew quite a few pictures.
What really amazed me was that it knows where to stop the lines and when it drew the ground, it totally blew me off. It knows how to connect the ground to the feet.
This video is really good! :)
Anyway, clearly it was trained, clearly. But what does that matter? Its still awesome.
I`m not saying that I do know for sure, and thinking about it, you`re probably right, I`m just wondering if it`s an informed fact or your opinion.
And I`m willing to agree that that particular elephant was trained. But I did see a website once about an elephant painting its own stuff, without being shown what to paint. It used negative space rather than drawing a clear outline and it wasn`t as precise as that elephant`s picture, and it perhaps painted aspects of the pictures that we would`ve left out and didn`t paint it how we would`ve painted it, but it definately wasn`t just random lines and blotches on a canvas, either.
I am aware that just because it was on the internet doesn`t make it true, so I`m not saying that elephants can absolutely definately without a doubt paint, I`m just wondering what you know about it. If there`s any animals I can believe is capable of it, it`s elephants and apes.
And this isnt the only elephant that can paint. This one might be trained a lot more precisely than the other ones though. They`re trained to do all kinds of silly chit like playing football, beating drums, balancing themselves on two legs on chairs while moving their trunks in hula hoops, etc
The elephant just does what its master conditions him to do repeatedly, there is no deep thought process behind what he`s doing.
Having said that, its still pretty cool to watch.
They are my favourite animal and one of the smartest animals around.
I suspect that we might be the fourth most intelligent species on this planet, rather than the third.
It might be trained to hold a paintbrush but I don`t think it`s trained as to what to paint. I`ve seen this thing before and the elephants come up with what they paint themselves.
Uh, no... then it would be harder to trick people. It`s hard enough as it is for some to believe it`s the elephant.
I`m not saying it`s a trick, but I can see where he comes from...
Elephants are highly intelligent creatures. It is not impossible for one to have done this. As for [quote]focusing too much on the trunk,[/quote] ever think maybe they were just focusing on the picture?
If someone really wanted to trick people, wouldn`t they have made the painting a lot more extravagent?
If the elephant is trained to paint like that it`s kinda sad because you just know that the elephant was litteraly brutalised into submition to perform such a trick. Just like in circuses.
If it`s real and they`re doing this on their own... I for one welcome our new pachiderme overlords.
I think it is trained.
And on a side note... i`m at the top of my art class about.. and this ellie beats me out when it comes to drawing legs and flowers. It was beautiful.
I`m just covering my ass
Animal art. My brain will jump off from my skull...
Is that real? Or have we just been had?
That`s amazing. I hope it`s real because then we really can`t pull any more of that whole "humans are the only animals that are self aware" nonsense
The people going "Oh my God... Oh my goodness, wow!" was funny though.