Elephant Paints Self Portait

Submitted by: ttsec 9 years ago in

This elephant is a better artist than me.
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Male 2,576
Fluffy, you`re missing the paint entirly.
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Female 195
why are people bitching whether the elephant was trained or not? seriously! even humans train or practise to get good at drawing ffs

end of the day you cant improve on something that isn`t there.

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Male 2
They get elephants to dance and stand on their heads and paint and stuff. It takes an elephant a whole week in `the crush`. Basically a crush cage where they keep stabbing it and gouging its eyes until it can` t stand. Then when it falls down and then they hit it to show them that it can`t sit down until they say so. They then release it into the village for the locals to run after and hit it. It`s called the jaan - means breaking the elephants spirit. It is a local culture that the thais think is ok to do. The saddest thing is it can only be done to babies less than one year old and goes on for months. This sort of thing should not be allowed THE VIDEO SHOULD BE REMOVED FOR THAT REASON

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Female 85
horton hears a who! LOL
and i doubt this is fake since the whole video was uncut
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Male 52
nothing to say now ass said it all ^^^^^^
good sh*t ass
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Female 943
wowie.
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Female 134
Female 576
that was amazing O.O
even if it was trained its still
so effing midblowing lol
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Female 576
that was amazing O.O
even if it was trained its still
so effing mindblowing lol
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Male 101
Wow, that was great. I would buy that picture.
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Female 662
That`s seriously amazing. I wonder if they have other elephants that can paint like that, or if it`s just that one.
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Male 668
Wow... I`ve seen videos of elephants die from hunting. Like they get shot and instantly flop to the ground... Terrible, actually.

I refuse to believe that this elephant can paint that... But then again, elephants do have the best memory in the world.

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Female 61
Trained or not, that elephant kicks ass. If it can paint nicer than me, then I don`t care if it was trained!
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Male 2,576
bassstud09 - Screenshotted, I`m seeing a trend that more and mroe people are agreeing with me to blance out the people calling me a kook.

Galileo Galilei was also concidered a Kook.

I`m Screenshotting these and starting an album.

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Male 223
Trained or not, that`s pretty freakin` cool.

I used to be a vegetarian. If I saw a cow do this, I might become one again. ;-)

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Female 4
Oh my gorsh! Omg!
That elephant put my drawing skills to shame
Hmmmm.... kinda skeptical though....
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Female 1,470
Fing amazing
Period
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Female 299
dang, thats so good its scary!
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Female 486
ttsec -
Sorry, okay, when I see myself crapping internets I might get a submission through.

Do you think the canvas could have pencil lines drawn on it and the elephant just tracing it over?
But the flower was gorgeous.

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Male 2,199
holy crap thats amazing, that flower was the best.
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Female 134
Sorry for the long post. I need to learn to be more succinct, it seems.
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Female 134
...I’m just not willing to shut out any options yet. Humans like to think we’ve got the whole world figured out, but we’re just in our beginning stages as a species, and while we’ve come rather far, we still have a lot to learn.

With all this being said, there is certainly an argument to be made regarding the detail of the painting done by the elephant vs. that of the gorilla. One would think that an animal with fingers would be able to capture the same amount of detail, if not more, than an animal using its trunk.

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Female 134
That is the first time I`d seen the painting next to the picture of the dog - I actually saw a documentary about this a while ago. Don`t get me wrong, I`m not cashing in my chips here - I`m a skeptic, pure and simple. As I said, I WANT to believe.

There are, however, a few things that make one think when it comes to "Apple Chase":
1. It is not ink, it is paint, and the gorilla had the whole spectrum of colors from which to choose.
2. Michael is one of those primates that has been taught sign language. Now, I agree that the discussion over whether or not this is "conversation" is tenuous at best. But, Michael painted this picture, and was asked, in sign, what the painting was AFTER it was completed, to which he replied "Apple Chase".
3. The picture is a swirl of black and white - as if indicating movement. This may be a representation of the movement Michael associated with playing Chase with Apple. Or it may not...

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Male 192
and assimilate

your link refers to an animal who splotched ink on a piece of paper.

Man, using their ability to make shapes into pictures, see images in the paint. The resemblance you see in "apple chase", is pure coincidental.

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Male 192
NO.

it was TRAINED. geeze you guys are dumb.

Elephants cannot appreciate art. Their brains cannot comprehend it. Art is a man made creation, over thousands of years of evolution. Thats just common anthropology.

Koala is completely right.

and the smartest animal in the world is a chimp.

And a chimp cant appreciate art!


GOD i cant believe people actually think this animal can paint and enjoy art on it`s own!! LOLOLOL what a bunch of TARDS

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Female 134
I think the jury is still out on this one, and it may be a very long time until we have an answer about whether this was "natural" or "trained" behavior.

However, it does seem that some animals DO in fact have a concept of representation, and this has come out in their paintings. "Apple Chase" by the gorilla Michael is the most obvious (and probably most cited) example of this:

"Michael had a dog named Apple, with whom he loved to play chase. He executed the painting at left from memory using black and white pigments, the color of Apple`s coat, although he had a large selection of colors to choose from. "

See the painting, and the picture of the dog, here:

http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits....

I want to believe.

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Male 666
^ That elephant built all this pulley system using elephant engineering, and every line had clear purpose. It is real art.
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Male 2,576
ttsec -

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You don`t know the first thing about art.

It isn`t "Abstract art" It`s scribbles. Thats all. Doodles. It doesn`t represent or mean anything.

It doesn`t Have a concept of Abstract - it just scribbled lines on a piece of paper.

It`s people like you who see anything in a Frame and deem it "art".

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Male 666
^ They have no sense of abstract, yet the link you show is abstract art. It`s clearly an abstract representation of love.
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Male 2,576
It doesn`t know what it`s doing.
It was trainned to do this.
It has no clue about signs of love, such as holding up a flower, or perspective.
Look at the way it drew the ear, that was abstract, Elephants have no concept of abstract.

It was trainned to do this, pure and simple, it has no idea what the lines represent. This is not natural. You want to see natural elephant paintings?:

http://www.solsup.com.au/greenman/elepha...

That`s what they look like.

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Female 2,074
I`ve read in National Geographic that elephants are very, very intelligent creatures that are aware of `self`, so when they see themselves in the mirror, the know they are looking at themselves, and not another elephant or something. But yea, this is pretty beautiful.
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Male 7,933
My IQ went up 4 my self-esteem dropped 6...
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Male 2,160
whatever the reasoning,that was purely amazing
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Male 1,024
@ binxyboo HAHA!
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Female 235
i think it`s amazing ^^ and cute!
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Male 1,024
wish i could draw with my nose.

amazing. i love elephants.

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Female 45
Amazing!!!
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Male 464
I submitted this two days ago. :(
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Male 260
Fake. You could see the seams in the fake elephant trunk.
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Male 1,122
this blew my mind...my only question was did the Elephant draw it from imagination or was it trained to do that design? But wow either way, double wow if that was just the elephant thinking it up.
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Male 666
^ I submitted this last week. You need to be faster. Speed is everything. Do not fight the internets, you must embrace it. That is how you win in life. You must eat, sleep, drink, and crap the internet. You must be one with the internet. When you can snatch this pebble from my hand...
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Female 486
I submitted this, yesterday! =/
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Male 1,788
Act Swiftly Awesome Packaderm
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Male 60
you could see that there were people holding up boards with drawings of elephants and flowers for the elephants to copy from...besides the proportions were waaaaaaaaaay off
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Female 652
he paints better than most people. that was awesome
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Female 67
I think it`s altered (superimposed elephant`s trunk over a human hand painting). However, I think it`s a great video. If it gets us to stop poaching those magestic creatures, I`m all for it.
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Male 22
Also, whether he is drawing another elephant or himself, does it matter? An elephant being able to draw. An elephant being able to draw. An elephant being able to draw!!!!

Come on people. Stop squabbling over minor details.

Sorry for double post. LOL

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Male 22
I don`t see how this can be staged.

1. There isn`t any cuts in the video.
2. Although he only focused on the trunk which some people might think that it is a himan hand, there are foreigners watching.
3. We could see that the elephant is TRAINED and that it already drew quite a few pictures.

What really amazed me was that it knows where to stop the lines and when it drew the ground, it totally blew me off. It knows how to connect the ground to the feet.

This video is really good! :)

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Female 673
Yeah, I probably could`ve. But I can`t be bothered editing.
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Male 10,440
teiso > you could have said all that in 1 sentance.
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Male 10,440
Hey! Not Bad! Elephant makes a good artist. But elephants ARE mammals, they`re quite smart. We`ve seen a whole load of things dogs can do...

Anyway, clearly it was trained, clearly. But what does that matter? Its still awesome.

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Male 1,383
Fk me! I don`t know what to say!
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Female 673
Do you know that for sure, Victor?

I`m not saying that I do know for sure, and thinking about it, you`re probably right, I`m just wondering if it`s an informed fact or your opinion.

And I`m willing to agree that that particular elephant was trained. But I did see a website once about an elephant painting its own stuff, without being shown what to paint. It used negative space rather than drawing a clear outline and it wasn`t as precise as that elephant`s picture, and it perhaps painted aspects of the pictures that we would`ve left out and didn`t paint it how we would`ve painted it, but it definately wasn`t just random lines and blotches on a canvas, either.

I am aware that just because it was on the internet doesn`t make it true, so I`m not saying that elephants can absolutely definately without a doubt paint, I`m just wondering what you know about it. If there`s any animals I can believe is capable of it, it`s elephants and apes.

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Male 188
Oh, and another interesting tidbit - there are only 4 species that are known to recognize themselves in the mirror - humans, chimps, dolphins, and............. elephants.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/3...

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Male 188
Teiso.... no effing way an elephant paints that without training.

And this isnt the only elephant that can paint. This one might be trained a lot more precisely than the other ones though. They`re trained to do all kinds of silly chit like playing football, beating drums, balancing themselves on two legs on chairs while moving their trunks in hula hoops, etc

The elephant just does what its master conditions him to do repeatedly, there is no deep thought process behind what he`s doing.

Having said that, its still pretty cool to watch.

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Female 673
And I agree with binxyboo. The elephant doesn`t know what it looks like, more likely it was drawing another elephant.

They are my favourite animal and one of the smartest animals around.

I suspect that we might be the fourth most intelligent species on this planet, rather than the third.

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Female 673
I`m impressed that they understand symbolism.

It might be trained to hold a paintbrush but I don`t think it`s trained as to what to paint. I`ve seen this thing before and the elephants come up with what they paint themselves.

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Female 2,144
I Dont Think It Is A Fake And Whether Or Not He Was Trained, It`s Still Amazing! I Loved This Video.
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Male 1,036
Simply amazing
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Male 272
Awesome.
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Female 109
But how do we know it was a self portrait, and not a portrait of one of his elephant freinds?
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Male 372
Beter than i could do for sure, and when he started painting the third leg i was thinkin "thats probably being a little generous buddy" but than i realized he was doing 3D legs and was extreamly impressed.
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Female 4,028
I suppose, but there have been hoaxes with other things before that have been extravagent.
Which, yes, is strange, but some people do it...
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Female 192
"If someone really wanted to trick people, wouldn`t they have made the painting a lot more extravagent?"

Uh, no... then it would be harder to trick people. It`s hard enough as it is for some to believe it`s the elephant.

I`m not saying it`s a trick, but I can see where he comes from...

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Female 4,028
Jesus, people act as though animals are retarded or something.

Elephants are highly intelligent creatures. It is not impossible for one to have done this. As for [quote]focusing too much on the trunk,[/quote] ever think maybe they were just focusing on the picture?

If someone really wanted to trick people, wouldn`t they have made the painting a lot more extravagent?

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Male 2,172
Looks like a fake because the camera focus way too much on the trunk ( Which may be a hand disguised to look like a trunk ) with some special effect and the blending of the two videos some people could come up with a video like that.

If the elephant is trained to paint like that it`s kinda sad because you just know that the elephant was litteraly brutalised into submition to perform such a trick. Just like in circuses.

If it`s real and they`re doing this on their own... I for one welcome our new pachiderme overlords.

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Female 450
;-() WOW :O JUST WOW!
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Female 1,589
*cries*
The poor paint brush. D:
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Female 4,028
[quote]...April Fool`s? Photoshopped? I`d be skeptical of Jesus` Resurrection on this day.[/quote]
It`s not April Fool`s yet.
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Male 25
Pretty cool, I can`t imagine what it would take to train an elephant to paint even if it is only replicating the same painting over and over. WinstonS they showed multiple paintings but you could also see multiple elephants meaning each one may replicate their own unique painting but I could be wrong.
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Male 193
...April Fool`s? Photoshopped? I`d be skeptical of Jesus` Resurrection on this day.
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Male 1,766
first they use brushes now its a matter of time till they are weilding chainsaws
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Female 4,197
I thought it was just gonna be a crappy splatter painting that looked nothing like an elephant... but I`m impressed!
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Female 192
Okasen, you can`t really tell when an elephant is happy, especially when only the trunk is focused.
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Female 192
if they ARE taught to paint, which is likely,the way they hold the brush is mind-blowing. The trunk is actually used as a hand, and the sides of the brush are pressed against the canvas at different angles! The flower at the end is my favorite part. Also, the legs.
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Female 186
Interesting...

I think it is trained.

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Female 523
I hate the "these animals are abused lololll" comments. Yes, in circus preformances they are chained up and beaten, but this elephant seemed perfectly happy with it.

And on a side note... i`m at the top of my art class about.. and this ellie beats me out when it comes to drawing legs and flowers. It was beautiful.

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Female 731
Whatever the reasoning behind it, I was spellbound.
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Female 4,028
Haha!
It`s not uncommon for elephants to be taught to paint, actually.
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Female 332
Cuz it`s April Fools Day.

I`m just covering my ass

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Male 123

It`s incredible even if it was trained to do the same picture, wich seems not be the case given the other paintings been shown around.

Animal art. My brain will jump off from my skull...

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Female 80
I would buy that painting. Really.
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Female 4,028
Why can`t it be real?
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Female 332
Jesus Christ!

Is that real? Or have we just been had?

That`s amazing. I hope it`s real because then we really can`t pull any more of that whole "humans are the only animals that are self aware" nonsense

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Male 2,113
very cool
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Female 4,028
That`s amazing.
Animals are much more intelligent than we give them credit for.

The people going "Oh my God... Oh my goodness, wow!" was funny though.

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Male 208
giggity
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Male 208
saw it already
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Male 713
my god that`s excellent
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Female 192
dayum...
maybe it`s trained?
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Male 666
Link: Elephant Paints Self Portait [Rate Link] - This elephant is a better artist than me.
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