Disfigured Woman`s Plea to Die Rejected!

Submitted by: fancylad 9 years ago in
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23394290-401,00.html

She wants to end her life due to her battle with cancer. What are your thoughts on right to death? Warning: Graphic pic!
There are 157 comments:
Female 52
I feel so bad for her. She`s right when she said that we wouldn`t let an animal go through what she has to live through. I`d like to know why she just doesn`t end her own life another way if she`s so set on dying.
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Male 2,159
She could just commit suicide.
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Male 992
WEIRD! It`s still March 19 here....whoa
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Female 1
Update: She was found dead on 20th March.
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Male 992
If she wants to die so bad, why doesn`t she do it herself?
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Female 9
To be fair, if I wanted to die that much, I`d fling myself off a bridge or something, instead of throwing the guilt onto somebody else who would have to live with it for the rest of their lives. A mutual and uninvolved party shouldnt be plagued by the memory of ending someone`s life and the worry that it wasnt 100% justified. If someone wants to die that badly there are a million and one ways of doing it without involving other people, especially someone who is just doing their job.

Watch the roads x

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Male 695
mrs marty feldman
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Male 943
"Death is not a right. :|

If she wants to die, there are other ways to approach it. Publically is not the best way. -_-"

I agree 100%

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Male 943
If she can`t take her own life, then maybe she doesn`t want to die as much as she says she does.
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Male 177
Death is not a right. :|

If she wants to die, there are other ways to approach it. Publically is not the best way. -_-

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Male 358
She should be able to make her own decision. But, as one who plans to take the Hippocratic oath, (...I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect...)A doctor, one under the oath, should not preform the procedure. This may seem cruel, but it would go against a doctor`s founding principles to end a life, no matter the reason. I agree with her, if I were like that, I would do it myself. But a doctor should not be involved.
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Female 1,269
im sad for her. the doctor`s involvement doesnt seem neccessary...it`s a bad terrible situation no one should have to go through...God be with her...(yes i did say God)go ahead flame me with "if there was a God He wouldnt do this to someone"
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Male 100
thats so sad, she was so pretty before..
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Female 208
You know, I just had to do a research paper on this for my English class. Personally, I think that if she really wanted to end her life because of cancer, she should have the right to do so. I know that`s kind of mean and cold-hearted, but wouldn`t you rather die because of pain or disease rather than living life like that? Again, I know it`s not really decent of me to say this, but...if she really wanted to end her life, her request should have been granted...:-(
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Female 377
You know, its not just that she wants to die.
It`s that she wants to do so PEACEFULLY to be put out of pain.

And shoving a toaster in your tub or stabbing yourself to death isn`t exactly painless.
Try paying more attention.

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Male 340
HA thats retarded.. going to court to get the "right to die" go to a shrink say u cant sleep get sleeping pills take the bottle.. its not that hard.. or jump off the roof of a really high building.. dive under a tractor trailer truck going down the high way.. get a gun.. slit ur writs.. put some explosives at the base of ur skull.. come on be creative!
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Male 2,781
SHE SHOULD GO TO THE HIGHEST TOWER(MAYBE THE EIFFEL TOWER)AND TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH. I`M PRETTY SURE THAT WOULD CHANGE SOME PEOPLE`S VIEW OF EUTHANASIA.
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Female 462
If she really wanted to kill herself, she would do it.
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Male 7,933
Oh and I dont think it should be easy to get euthanized. I think the process to get euthanize should be regulated (in her case I would say that they should let her). We cant have a society where anytime anyone got upset they can just kill themselves. There should be a process based on an individual basis. In her case, it should be allowed
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Male 1,882
"God alone decides when someone should die"

Not how I view it. God doesn`t "decide" everything that happens. Its called free will. God "knows" what we will choose, and God may intervene in certain circumstances. God doesn`t "decide" you will sin, you do.

"An animal in that condition would be euthanized, no doubt about it."

An animal in perfectly normal condition can be euthanized due to overcrowding at an animal shelter. Regardless, owners (or animal shelters) make the decision for the animal. We kill them, they don`t "decide" to die.

"My fix would be to kill the idiot judge who thinks he/she can tell me to live with the disease."

I know, let`s just kill everyone that doesn`t agree with us! That`s a perfectly rational response to opposing views!

"[If] my doctor denies me my right to die, I`ll raise hell."

Why ask someone to pull the trigger? Grow some balls and do it yourself.

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Female 513
The problem, for me, is the fact that the legal system fully supports using any and all means of keeping people alive despite their condition. It doesn`t support compassionate end of life for those that desire it but cannot achieve it on their own. Such as a person with "Locked-in Syndrome", someone suffering from severely painful cancer who is not responding to treatment, an elderly, bed-bound patient or children with congenital diseases making their quality of life next to nothing.

The law fully supports torturing them to keep them alive, rather than doing the humane thing and letting them pass peacefully and without pain.

That is wrong. In a sense, they condone torture.

Doctors should be allowed to provide end of life measures should the patient wish it. Anything less, should be criminal.

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Male 928
Psh like a court can stop her from killing herself anyways. I think she should just roll her gurney out the window in the wee hours of the night.
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Male 1,882
Since when do you need permission to off yourself?

If she wants to die, then it is her choice.

At the same time, if the court (and government) do not want to put their hands in such a thing, then that is fine too. The court (and govt.) should be bound by the law to protect life, and to acknowledge the right to death is, to most people, condoning suicide.

In other words, if you want to die, then do it on your own accord. Expecting someone to be OK with giving you the thumbs up, or even providing the means to your passing, is a little much to ask, especially when it involves the court or government. The court and government has to be concerned with people who are not mentally stable that wish to commit suicide instead of seeking help.

The court has every right to reject her plea, to not condone her actions, to not involve itself in her suicide. She, however, does have the right to die.

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Male 30
God alone decides when someone should die, she has free will if she wants to kill herself nobody will stop her but why does she need a doctor to do it? Because she doesn`t have the guts to do it herself. If the government let`s her do this then when do they draw the line? I have arthritis I need to die, I am blind I need to die, I have herpes I need to die. I know somebody is going to say it needs to be a terminal illness but who are we to decide whats terminal? AIDS is terminal but somebody could live 30 or 40 years with AIDS.
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Female 243
That poor woman. I just want to hug her and read to her and be with her if companionship in the absence of sane government responsibility and in the absence of a motherload of morphine (which I`d offer if *I* were her medical practitioner, those ball-less bastards) if she felt that it would make things less bad.

She`s absolutely correct. An animal in that condition would be euthanized, no doubt about it.

The problem here is religious confusion. Or more accurately secular confusion. Those in power don`t really deserve to remain in power and they keep atheistic mores inarticulate in order to stay comfortable. An atheist power says without actually saying that we have to worship humanity in some way. But it doesn`t have the guts to say so. Just see, we`ll revert back to slavery because of these mindless values.

Metaphysically speaking ("by spiritual law"), suicide does make your future living hell, but this woman is already there, probably thru no fault of her own.

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Male 1,455
Making suicide legal would cause problems for someone not mentally sound- they could try to commit suicide, and nobody would be able to stop them.

On the other hand, there`s cases like this.

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Male 564
Sinfulsisi,
Your an idiot. Seeing someone in that knid of disposition and laughing is terrible.
Wateva_x,
Who`s "they"? The government? If so, then the insurance would charge family members for her death. That can be extremely troublesome. And if the family is non-existant, then I`m not sure if she could get a funeral at all.
BTW wateva, if you copy your text and then add what you need, it replaces the problem of a double post.
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Female 691
^ add-
and if we all have the right to live, why dont we all have the right to die as well? Even if suicide is/was illegal, there isnt much they can do about it when your dead.
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Female 691
It isn`t fair. If she is in that much pain, physically as well as mentally, they should let her go. Why are they keeping her alive (or trying to), when all she wants to do is die in peace, not in pain.
Let her go..
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Male 316
Glad to see "The Right To Die" is actually "The Non-Right To Die" in other places besides America. Jesus christ people, it`s there ****en lives let them do whatever they want. What makes this involve government anyhow!? If, upon reaching old age, I feel sick and in lots of pain and my doctor denies me my right to die, I`ll raise hell. Believe me, I`ll raise so much hell that they`d wish they`d killed me. Poor woman, I feel so bad for her.
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Male 102
My fix would be to kill the idiot judge who thinks he/she can tell me to live with the disease. Then let the cops shoot me while resisting. It`s her life to take if she sees fit and anyone else who feels like ending "their" life !!
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Male 1,263
Oh. My God.

I feel so bad for that woman...

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Male 550
I`ve got nothing nice to say, so I`m not saying anything substantial in this post.
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Male 4,546
1) If they legalize it, they have to then structure it against abuse.

2) If they legalize it, and don`t structure it well, you`ll have a 100% suicide success rate, as opposed to the 5% success rate in Women and 50% success rate in men.

The remainder of which tend to get better after 2 to 5 years, and go on to live normal lives.

3) To argue that death is "what`s best" for someone is not an argument. It`s an opinion.

4) It`s easy for a judge to sit and say "Sure, die if you want" to every Tom Dick and Harry that comes into his court. "Life is yours to choose to live or not" blah blah blah.

If he would say the same to any old suicidal friend... he isn`t one. The government has a duty of care to every individual under it.

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Female 1,572
poor woman
she must be in a lot of pain :/
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Male 188
I`d hit it
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Male 1,162
StarChild_
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
I firmly believe that no one has the right to tell someone else how to live, or end, their own life. If she`s ready to go, it`s her life. Let her end it
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Yeah but no one is saying "you dont have the right to die". They`re saying "no, we will not help you kill yourself." She`s not asking for the right to die. She`s asking others to kill her. If some random woman asked you to kill her on the streets, would you? I wouldn`t.

Anyway:

If she`s so sick of living, why doesn`t she grab a knife, get some pills, or prepare the toaster in a tub of water? I don`t see her hands being bound. She`s not crippled as far as I can tell. If she`s so ready to die, then why can`t she do it herself?

Her life must not be that terrible if she`s having to ask someone else do it.

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Male 3,296
omg thats so sad i feel like crying for her

amma pray for her

thats about the only thing i can do

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Female 339
But this is why they invented suicide...
So we dont need euthenasia.
If she was TRULY upset, she would just do it herself.
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Male 2,113
god bless her thats the saddest thing i have ever seen
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Male 695
This is just stupid... The woman is just stupid. What? Did she want to make politicians pass a bill that makes euthanasia legal? If she just wanted to die she could have taken a bath with her toaster... This is about more than just her dying. I`ve seen this woman on the news and she`s clearly capable of doing everything on her own... That includes bungy with a noose, russian roulette with a fully loaded pistol, experimenting with drugs x10, playing tag with a truck/train etc... Once again; this is just stupid!
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Male 3,369
This is wrong, just as it is with many other terminally ill people. If your in pain and you want to die, no one should have the right to stop you. This is a religious belief thats been forced on the western world. The only person who has the right to choose is the person suffering, no one else!
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Female 1,890
i saw the picture and busted out laughing...
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Male 82
she brings up a very good point:
"One would not allow an animal to go through what I have endured,"

society`s ignorance towards other people is sickening. i see many points on her side: she wants it, she will die quick and peacefully instead of long and painfully, shes probably going to off herself no matter what, so clean up would be easier. seriously, so many valid arguments, yet i see no reasonable points against her decision.

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Male 2,486
Oh my god..

That is just terrible..

Why can someone else deny the right for you to die? Freedom, psh..

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Female 466
How is someone "unreasonable" to an insurance company when they are suffering....again, it all boils down to the Almighty Dollar!!!!!!!!!
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Female 466
It`s our bodies, but we`re not allowed to do what is best for us...that is a crock. You can "put down" a dying animal, legally, but a person who is dying can`t. So the hospitals,pharmaceutical/drug/medical supply companies, doctors, and anyone else who would benefit financially when this woman becomes incapacitated,wouldn`t get their monies if she ended her own life!!! Cancer is painful!! My mother was on a Morphine drip till she died of it!
It isn`t a MORAL issue, it`s a MONEY issue!!!!
And church/religious fanatics(and government) who stick their nose into other peoples business!!!
How do you judge "ethics", when it isn`t you that is suffering. You can`t... Just my opinion...
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Male 641
@SilverThread

If suicide was legal I can almost guarantee that it would violate your life insurance as well. Law decision is based on what the "reasonable" person would do, call it what you will that`s what it is. In regards to activities such as skydiving there is an "assumption of risk" involved and it isn`t covered in life insurance either. Unfortunately murder falls under "Malum in se" and is very rigid in it`s consequence and even more unwaivering.

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Female 377
I`m not sure how many women find someone as insensitive as you very attractive.
Atleast, most of the ones I know wouldn`t.
That was a horrible thing to say.
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Male 570
yes, most women fantasise about my genitals, but not in that way you sick freak.
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Male 3,431
The reason she hasn`t ended her life on her own likely has something to do with Insurance. In the U.S. an insurance company will generally not pay out on a life insurance policy if you commit suicide, leaving the bereaved financially strapped. It`s a flawed system, she has my wholehearted sympathy.

It`s ludicrous that the legal system has a right to approve of or deny anyone the right to do with their own body what they choose. Why does no one intervene when a person goes skydiving? They are risking their lives openly yet we have decided that it`s not the place of the Law to prevent us from endangering ourselves senselessly but when a person that is clearly suffering horribly asks their society for the right to die (an act of unimaginable pain in it`s self) we honestly don`t have the right to disallow them the choice.

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Female 377
And I think defendors isn`t funny at all.

Do you really think you`re so hilarious because you can make fun of a woman greatly suffering from cancer?
I hope you develope genital cancer that makes them rot slowly, and then have them fall off and get them shoved into your mouth until you choke to death.

You`re not only insensitive, but very inconsiderate and rude.

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Female 377
I cried earlier when I read this, and again now.
It`s even worse when you google her name and look for before pictures.
This is horribly sad, I just hope she can get her way in the end. It`s her choice, and I wouldn`t want to live like that either. :(
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Male 641
The right to die... VERY grey area. Who owns your body? Yourself of course, laws (philisophically) are created to maintain order and necessity in our respective societies and suicide is murder (kill intentionally and with premeditation). To basically condone suicide is to condone a form of murder and to ask a doctor to prescribe lethal drugs is even more red tape. As sad as this case is I`d have to agree with the French government on this one you can`t make exceptions dependant on emotion... Law is an emotionless entity and rightfully so. Why do you need the right to legally kill yourself anyhow, there are plenty of painless ways to go and I doubt you will have to deal with the consequences. It`s just too bad that people have to deal with things like this poor woman.
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Male 63
The fundimental question is:

Who legally owns your life/body? a) You b) The State c) The Church.

Any other answer other than "a" is very frightening.

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Male 3,296
confucius never had a tumor in his nostrils
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Male 1,265
Confucius say:

Lot is learned through disappointment and suffering.

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Male 3,296
give me a gun ill go kill her myself

ill get my iab medal later
muahaha evil >:|

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Male 564
200 post above. Anywayz.
I do agree with you, nevertheless, about you statement. In most cases that I can think of, having a right to have something means there`s also a right to not have something. Good point on your part.
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Male 564
"There is a case to be made for the inalienable rights of all beings. As put down on paper many years ago be people much wiser than the here an now. All men (men in the venacular) are created equal, and bestowed upon them are certain inalienable rights and those are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These are some pretty simple things to fathom and all too often number two and three are taken and given away far too easily without thought. Yet number one on the list is such a fickle concept to embrace. Life is not only ours inalienable to possess but is also ours to relinquish as well. Our life is just that ours. We can do with it as we wish. We can live it or we can choose not to live it. So long as in the process of ending it we do not impinge upon those three rights of others there should be no law and no punishment against such. "
I`m sorry bud, you can`t use the Declaration of Independence as a legal document.
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Male 1,364
ppl should try to die oldschool.
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Male 1,364
i think its selfish of ill ppl to ask others to kill them. if they are able and they cant stand the pain anymore, they should kill themselves. the ones who cant should get very good pain treatment, which is easily available today. all that euthanasia demands put the whole society under pressure and spark unnecessary social discussions.
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Male 12,138
I think I love you FeeFee
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Male 12,138
^(Arber that is)
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Female 513
It should be a crime to keep people like this alive. I also feel the same for the older people, so wracked with pain and disease that beg to die. It`s inhumane to subject them to that sort of life. Like she said, you wouldn`t subject an animal to that sort of pain.
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Female 583
davymid, I think you make some excellent points and I agree with everything you said completely.
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Male 12,138
At last we agree on something Primetime! What an arsehole^^
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Male 1,078
yeah...id just kill myself by myself if i was like that.
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Male 7,933
arber must die
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Male 92
oh that sad ..well it her choice if she wants end her life our not frannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Male 7,933
France is now secular. Back in the pre-napolean days they werent and the loss of Netherlands hurt them.

And what the hell is go thuggin?

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Male 4,290
Anyways, back on-topic:

Let her die with some dignity.

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Male 1,556
Primetime go thuggin you never get the point

Old Jeezhead most annyoing guy alive

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Male 4,290
France is secular.

Maybe the Protestants are richer because they`re all fellow Masons who throw good jobs and promotions to each other and overlook the harder-working Catholic guy in the corner?

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Male 7,933
im catholic too. There is truth to it. Typically Catholic nations are poorer than Protestant nations.
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Male 4,290
I know you`re not, I`m Catholic. Just because we believe "blessed are the poor" doesn`t mean we`re a bunch of slackers. My family works harder than any family I know.

And the correlation between Catholic/Protestant ratio and good economy exists only in your mind.

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Male 7,933
Catholics believe that blessed are the poor. Im not making this up, thats why the netherlands had a head start on France after it gained independence that hurt Frances economy because tehy were the last hard working state.
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Male 59
No, I Didn`t read the whole 80 somments, so sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Why go to your government? Take a gun and do it yourself. What are they gonna do, arrest you? Besides, getting those drugs would get other people in trouble, and I`m sure the old lady doesn`t want that.

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Male 4,290
primetime: "(im surprised that Italy is that high. Catholics aren`t normally good at working while protestants like the Netherlands normally do better)"

Screw you, sectarian wanker.

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Male 7,933
I believe that she has the choice
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Male 7,933
I dont know davymid, you can say the same about the population of luxembourg as in Qatar. I can see how it is a factor, but I dont think its what would determine it.
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Female 1,398
"One would not allow an animal to go through what I have endured"
100% right. She should make the decision on whether she wants to die, not the government. Fascist pigs.
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Male 12,138
primetime, here`s your list of GDP per capita

1. Luxembourg
2. Norway
3. Qatar
4. Iceland
5. Ireland
6. Denmark
7. Switzerland
8. Sweden
9. USA
10. Netherlands

[Source: IMF">. This top-10 includes the most radically secular countries of the world with a few exceptions (USA:World Superpower, Ireland: EU Subsidies, Qatar: Vast hydrocarbon reserves and tiny population)

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Male 28
Never before has a link from IAB made me shed tears. This shouldn`t be their decision.
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Male 12,138
Again, I stand by my point. Of course this woman should be allowed to die with dignity and without pain if she is of sound mind and that is her wish. The reason (as she rightly pointed out) that we would not put an animal through this torment but make a person suffer it is rooted firmly in the RELIGIOUS belief that we are somehow different from animals, better than animals, that we have a SOUL and they do not.

All religious dogma. It has it`s place, but it`s not in law, especially where human suffering is concerned.

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Male 7,933
I cant find a list of gdp per capita but among the top ones include the US, Sweden, and Ireland.
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Male 7,933
1. Because there are ethical questions (not limited to religion) that go along with the horse.
2. There is no official documentation to prove that. So until then im sticking to that.
3. nonetheless it is still a group of cells that develop into humans. To say they are not living is ridiculous. And the Lacy Peterson case set a landmark which recognize a fetus as a life.
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Male 12,138
primetime, you`re mixing up GDP and GDP per capita. In GDP terms, China is 4th in the world (ahead of the UK, France, Canada etc etc) because they have so many damn people. GDP per capita is the metric you need to look at to understand the wealth (as a good proxy for standard of life) of the INDIVIDUAL. In that case, China is not 4th in the world but 104th, which is a better reflection of reality, wouldn`t you say?
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Male 1,406
She needs the new owner of the death note to kill her
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Male 12,138
primetime, as usual, you missed my point.

1. Please cite (with peer-reviewed scientific references, not pseudo-religious websites) which "alternatives" to stem cell research are just as effective. The possibilities of SCR are enormous. It`s like saying "there`s no point trying to develop the combustion engine, horses can do the job just as effectively"

2. Marriage is a legal bond between two people. And don`t start with the whole "Council of Trent" bullsh*t again- Marriage exists in every society from neolithic Egyptians to central African tribesfolk to Eskimo/Innu cultures. Christianity/religion does NOT hold the copyright on MarriageTM.

3. I wasn`t talking about it advancing medical research. I mean the rational for making it illegal is based purely on religious grounds because some 2000 year old books tell us that the "soul" (whatever that means) enters the undifferentiated clump of cells at the moment of fertilization.

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Female 195
I agree wholeheartedly, she should have the right to choose her own mode of death.
I do worry however, given enough cases like this, if assisted suicide would become completely legal. There are significant issues raised (I certainly don`t mean religious!)- in particular those considering people who are not competent enough to so verbally put across their want to die.

A system legally allowing suicide leaves itself open to all manner of manipulation. It would need very careful policing to make sure that the odd case where family members pushed for it to ease their own burden/cash in the inheritance did not slip through - there are some vulnerable people to protect from such a law.

So I believe that assisted suicide should remain largely illegal, but be open to cases, such as this, where it is an obvious move to consider.

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Female 744
I cried. That`s so sad, and seriously, if you don`t give her the drugs, she`s just going to do it herself, and maybe in a way that`s a lot more messy.
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Female 4,225
Actually, it woulkd be an interesting subject for ethics...but yes- terrible.
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Male 7,933
I still consider German government somewhat religious. If you belong to a religious institution the government has a tax for that. 25% of the population there does not believe there is a God. United States= 11% sure but 44% are not certain. So its not a big reach to say Germany is somewhat religious.

As far as GDP of the nations you mentioned the highest (im not including Germany) is Netherlands which ranks 16 (still pretty good) but italy and Spain (which are very religious) are ahead of them. I think your placing too much emphasis on religion and success of the nation (im surprised that Italy is that high. Catholics aren`t normally good at working while protestants like the Netherlands normally do better)

As far as she goes, she can still kill herself, its just going to be done by herself

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Female 4,225
That is sad, I am glad that no ass is coming on and spamming FREAK.

So, let us agree that we agree that she is the master of her own right to life. This poor woman, ok- the brain dead woman from a years back- that was murder. But this, she wants to take her own, let her.

What kind of cruel world is this?
What sort of insanely cruel world is this?

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Female 501
that made me really sad.. i hope she doesnt suffer for much longer..
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Male 7,933
1. There are alternatives in stem cell research that can be used which are as effective.
2. Get marriage out of government altogether.
3. How does abortion- advance in medical research?
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Male 80
she has no reason to kill herself.
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Male 1,152
oh well oops my bad, i thought he was. But that dosent defer from my point really. He was caught there was a huge tudo about it and he was sent to prison cuz its illegal.
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Male 9,305
"Dr. Kevorkian was NOT put to death. In fact, he just got let out of prision and is thinking about running for political office."

Now THAT`S going to be an interesting election.

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Male 12,138
[continued] The most secular societies in the world such as here in Holland (other notable examples being Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany etc) where relgious dogma have been largely removed from state law have legalised euthanasia, abortion, same-sex marriage, and are some of the global leaders medical research.

I would suggest that it`s no coincidence that these societies have some of the best healthcare, highest standards of living, excellent education systems, fair legal/penal systems (with no Death Penalty), lowest murder and crime rates, and longest life expectancy in the world.

Coincidence? Maybe. Correlation? Definitely.

Time to distance ourselves from the hangover of what can only be ascribed to dark-age religious hangovers in strictly legal/secular matters. I mean come on, it`s the 21st century FFS.

And that was my 2 euro-cents worth.

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Male 396
was not ready for that pic
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Female 1,516
Oops, to the person above me - "Unbelievable" Dr. Kevorkian was NOT put to death. In fact, he just got let out of prision and is thinking about running for political office.
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Female 1,516
I think the point she made is very true - We wouldn`t even allow an animal to suffer in that way. I can`t believe we live in a World where we kill murderers humanely, yet let decent people suffer while they beg to die.
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Male 1,152
Here are my thoughts. Its called Human Rights, basicly says that every human has the right to live. But thats as far as that one gos, says nothing about the right to have a doctor help you kill yourself. There would have to be all sorts of laws past for this sort of thing as well as depending on what the sircumstances are. Its not legal for doctors to assist in suicide and as far as im concerned it never will be. I think Dr Kavorkian was put to death for his involvment in assisted suicide. Something like that just couldent be put forth cuz if it were every nut job that wanted to end there life would be seeking it. If she really wants to end her life so bad she will find a way to do it and get it done herself. Thats what people do, its just the way it is
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Male 12,138
From reading the posts it seems like everyone without exception here approves of consentual, requested euthanasia. It seems to me that the only reasons for not allowing it are draconian, archaic laws which are rooted in RELIGION, nothing else. Other examples being:

1) Illegal stem cell research, which could unlock some of the most profound advances in medical science seen in a century. Based on what? Ridiculous 2000 year old scriptures about the timing of conception, life, the inception of the "soul" etc etc

2) Illegal gay marriage in many places. Why? Again, based solely on Biblical dogma that homosexuality is an abomination. Again, ridiculous, archaic, and indefensible in a modern equal-rights society.

3) Illegal abortion in many countries, for same reasons as point 1.

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Female 2,258
coranthulle said it perfectly.

I cannot imagine having to live life in such pain, both physically and emotionally. Why can`t they just allow a willing doctor to prescribe her the medicine she needs in order to die with some dignity? Why can`t she be "put to sleep"? It`s painless and quick and there is no messy clean-up. She could go with a smile on her lips and surrounded by her family instead of some horrible painful way alone.

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Female 360
Personally, as a human being I agree with everyone so far who`s said that the woman should have the right to end her own suffering. People have mentioned religious reasons as being the only reasons that caused her request to be denied. If one is going to go that route, I guess I`d prefer to believe that God, who is supposed to have a profound connection with you on a spiritual level, would understand and forgive you.
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Male 290
ouch sorry bout your guinea pig leesah i know how you feel :C back on topic she has 3 kids didn really research but they might be young but its just a thought...
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Female 208
i wonder if they can just cut the tumour out
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Male 1,361
tru dat^^^

*cough*

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Male 3,296
thats this stupid ass world for ya

you could get away with murder (oj)
but u cant end ur own suffering
wtf

i seriously woulda shot myself long time ago

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Female 920
crazy timing. we talked about euthenasia in my gerentology class today.

Poor woman. I wonder if she`ll attempt plain ole suicide now? That would be terrbile.

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Male 57
Religious people try to tell us how to live, when and how to have sex, and how to die. Isn`t enough that we let them decide how and when to do those things for themselves?
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Male 184
Poor woman.
I don`t think they`re doing any good by denying her lethal meds.
If she doesn`t get them, she`ll kill herself another way if she really wants to.
It`ll just be more painful for her without the meds.
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Male 580
Let her go. She deserves to do what she wants.
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Female 46
that poor woman
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Male 326
I agree wholeheartedly with coranthulle. It`s her life. Let her live (or die) as she pleases. I think that in cases like this, doctors should be able to choose. Don`t force them one way or the other. Eventually a patient would find one willing to help. Some countries do allow it. Those who don`t, in my opinion, should follow suit. My two cents.
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Male 27
i agree with her. we wouldn`t even think about letting an animal go through this...
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Male 466
So why cant we give that same sympathy to an intelligent living being that requests as much?
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Male 466
It constantly amazes me how man can be so concieted to think they absolutley know whats best for the populace of all humanity. When in truth man is the last to know what is trully best for all let alone even what is best for themselves. One thing is certain though, if its my right to live my life, its also my right to chose how i live my life so long in that living of my life i dont interrupt the lives of others. What harm would it be to allow this woman her last dignity? Her death would not affect anything in the world. The agony of having to live her life against her will reeks of the crulest of cruelty. This reminds me of the kind of people that wont put a dog down after its lived to 16+ years, had two strokes, and is so ridden with arthritis that they cant even pick their body up enough to make it to the paper to do their business but instead lie in their filth with no recourse. Most people would not only put a dog like that to death but would rejoice in it.
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Female 475
let her do what she wants with her life.
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Male 466
There is a case to be made for the inalienable rights of all beings. As put down on paper many years ago be people much wiser than the here an now. All men (men in the venacular) are created equal, and bestowed upon them are certain inalienable rights and those are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These are some pretty simple things to fathom and all too often number two and three are taken and given away far too easily without thought. Yet number one on the list is such a fickle concept to embrace. Life is not only ours inalienable to possess but is also ours to relinquish as well. Our life is just that ours. We can do with it as we wish. We can live it or we can choose not to live it. So long as in the process of ending it we do not impinge upon those three rights of others there should be no law and no punishment against such.

TBC...

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Male 1,003
she could take her own life. it`s not that hard to die. it will be the same as suicide if she asks someone else to do it. i would kill myself if i couldn`t do anything. (being blind)
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Female 105
I understand why she`d want to die, and it`s her life, so why not give her a painfree way to end it?
Almost all "regular" ways of suicide involve some sort of pain, no matter how quick the method. (For instance, pills might make you sleep, but they can also make your last hours on Earth very painful as they ruin your insides.)

Personally, I`d try not to look at her while I ramble off various way for her to end herself. (Quickfix: Bridge or tall building.)

It might be a horrible thing to do, but sometimes the "right" thing to do is just... wrong. And cruel.
(And "oddly fitting" as my sardonic side compels me to write.)

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Male 150
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLvJNPef...

heres a little more. A clip of her. It`s all in French.

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Female 4,028
I never really did understand why suicide is against the law.
Are they going to put your carcass in jail? )-|
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Female 1
They should let her do what she wants. She looks like shes in a lot of pain. :-(
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Female 582
its so weird, i dont think there is a person in the world who truly thinks that she should not be able to die. I think the only reason they arnt letting her is because its against the law. It doesnt mean its wrong, it just means its a law. Such a useless rule too.
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Female 662
That`s very depressing.
I hope she feels better soon, whatever the decision is.
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Male 1
that sucks for her. i mean if she really wants to die cant she just shoot herself in the head or take like two bottles of tylonal. id overdose on heroin that would probably be nice
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Male 1,556
gotham i was just about to change my pic to Black Widow and you took it:( well i still think she should have the right to die if she wants to.
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Female 72
I feel so sorry for this woman. And at the same time in the back of my head, I`m thinking it`s perfect for my ethics class. I`m a terrible person.
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Male 124
Ugh, this makes me hate france even more.
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Female 68
I firmly believe that no one has the right to tell someone else how to live, or end, their own life. If she`s ready to go, it`s her life. Let her end it, and further more, she should be able to choose how she goes. I think I`d rather have a doctor assist me, so that I may go peacefully, instead of having to choose a messy, painful, or otherwise inconvenient method of ending a life.

I mean, maybe the poor woman doesn`t feel like having the people who care for her find her somewhere after she has commited suicide. It would be much easier to handle it in a hospital, where the death, and her remains, can be handled properly.

The only argument that I have seen so far is based on religious beliefs about death, and I think we ALL agree that it is unfair to FORCE your religious beliefs on others.

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Female 4,028
That is incredibly sad.
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Male 1,704
i never knew u had to go through a court to get a right to die??
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Female 1,566
Eff that.
Her eye just looks plain painful.
If she wants to end her life peacefully and painlessly with a willing doctors aid, she should be able to.
Why was it okay for my guinea pig to be put down because he, similar to this woman, had a swollen eye due to irreversible illness, but this poor woman is being told she needs to get over it and keep living?
That`s not right.
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Male 4,290
Poor woman.

Someone get me a pillow and a flight to France.

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Female 40
Weird when you think about it, not being allowed to die.
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Male 471
If she wants to die, let her commit suicide, or go to Holland or someplace that allows euthinasia.

But if the doctor doesn`t want to kill somebody, he shouldn`t have to. And if it`s illegal, that`s the law. I support her if she really wants out of her life, especially if she wants some dignity, but she needs to find a legal way.

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Male 1,837
oh man, i feel bad nao. thx alot fancylad, i was happy and having fun.
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Male 1,149
Allow her to take her own life i say, but with no doctor involvement. It`s not a doctors place to intentional take a life.
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Female 85
Bless :(
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Male 9,305
If she wishes to end her life, let her make her own decision. We are the masters of our own fates. No one else. If she wishes to die, let her pass into the next life.

According to the report, she has lost sight, smell, and taste, as well as the fact that she is enduring incredible pain.

["One would not allow an animal to go through what I have endured,`` she said before urging President Nicolas Sarkozy to intervene and grant her request.]

Isn`t the logic behind animal euthanasia the idea that they are suffering and we do them the mercy of ending it for them as they don`t have the means to do so? Why is it so different for us?

Spare the religious spewforth. BESIDES the religious aspect, why is it so different?

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Male 340
LOL defendors:
"maybe she should phone home and ask them to do it."

That`s so mean you can`t help but laugh..

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Male 340
She should be allowed to die if she feels that way...It`s really not anyone`s decision but hers.
There`s gonna be some heavy discussion on this post I bet.
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Male 2,395
Aaaawww... that`s just sad. :(
That`s very brave of her.
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Male 444
first posters should die.

that poor woman.

i wonder how the trial went as to not letting her choose her way to die.

i mean, do they want her to suffer more?

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Female 51
if people ran away at the sight of me
heck if i had what she had
i wouldnt go to the press i would live alone
with my music
suffering like that is unimaginable
your face is how you great the world.
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Male 1,583
that poor lady. :(
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Female 288
that is a tough situation, i feel for that poor women :(
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Male 570
maybe she should phone home and ask them to do it. (yes, i am very insensitive)
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Female 42
i really feel bad for her, and i know i would have to be in her place..but i don`t think its right to take your own life.
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Male 223
Is that all you can post you self righteous prick..
Gah First Posters for the lose.

She should be allowed it, i`m sorry but all I could say to that is drating change the law, if her quality of life is affected then for drats sake help her out.

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Male 56
sick
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Male 20,900
Link: Disfigured Woman`s Plea to Die Rejected! [Rate Link] - She wants to end her life due to her battle with cancer. What are your thoughts on right to death? Warning: Graphic pic!
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