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    nat000 Female 13-17
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    January 20, 2008 at 9:51 pm
    Link: Norway FTW? - Michael Moore cut this scene about Norway from Sicko because no one would believe it.
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    Zerro Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:33 am
    Interesting.

    But I couldn`t get over how annoying Michael Moore is.

    :)

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    Berserk505 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:36 am
    Now I`m more depressed, thanks a lot nat000.
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    Poefan101 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:40 am
    Yes but America still wins because Norway`s shaped like a penis.
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    FatAnorexic Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:40 am
    Lol at the chainsaw murderer who`s now working as a lumberjack.
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    Steno Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:40 am
    ... Shouldn`t this just be Scandinavia instead of just Norway???
    It`s almost the same here in Denmark as in Norway.
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    lucid_wizard Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:42 am
    wow...life sucks.
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:46 am
    Wow...
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    kenneth7415 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:50 am
    goddamn. i wish i had gone to norway instead of the us. i have to watch that movie.
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    Iroj Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:52 am
    "It`s almost the same here in Denmark as in Norway."

    I was about to say the same thing. I used to live in Denmark and its almost exactly like Norway in terms of their health standard.

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    Tomolenko Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:55 am
    :O ...
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    notsoevil Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:59 am
    I hadn`t heard that bit about Norway not wanting to hand over prisoners to the U.S.

    Almost like how in Canada now the United states is now listed in a section of an official world travel brochure that lists countries where you have a possibility of being tortured. I almost wish I was kidding, but hell. We now live in a world where Barb Wire may just be the holy prophesy.

    Our giant breasted blonde savior will come! Just you wait!!!!

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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:06 am
    apparently a lot of people didn`t know this about norway, they have the healthiest people in the world, not just talking about health care either.
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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:07 am
    Norway is cool and all, but no country is perfect. Norway does have a relatively large trend of alcoholism and alcohol-related illness. Which goes to show that everyone and everyplace has it`s share of good and bad points.
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    calmelbourne Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:27 am
    I know I`m being presented with a biased opinion, but Norway sounds pretty cool.
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    Kaizer250 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:31 am
    I am SOOOOOOO moving to Norway.

    To Cashcleaner: Yeah, but I`ll take a country with alcoholism over a country with war, bad health, an obese, uneducated population, dying economy, etc. anyday.

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    Steno Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:42 am
    "Norway is cool and all, but no country is perfect. Norway does have a relatively large trend of alcoholism and alcohol-related illness. Which goes to show that everyone and everyplace has it`s share of good and bad points."

    But cigarettes and alcohol is so expensive in norway! 20 dollars for a pack of cigarettes, and this shows that they are trying to prevent cancer and the same goes with alcohol diseases. i don`t know the price for alcohol, but you often see norwegians coming to denmark to buy alcohol. the danes just goes to germany...
    I think the average dane starts drinking at about the age og 14. i did, and all of my friends did aswell. looking back, i regret it. Alcohol is quite a big part of scandinavia, but also very very dangerous. it is not against the law to buy alcohol, only selling it to people under the age 16 is illegal. in theori, you can buy cigs and alcohol at the age of 0.

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    tiguno Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:43 am
    "He cut up 2 people with a chainsaw"

    "He worked in the forest with a chainsaw"


    :-/:-/

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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:05 am
    I`m almost looking forward to seeing the flame war that will be borne from this.
    That proves I`m officially insane. Thanks, I-A-B!!
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    bob2083 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:07 am
    i live in london and what the fox news presenter said is bunch of b.s.. Are health care is not perfect but its alot better than a American system. I used to live in America for two years and i just couldn`t believe some of the things i witnessed.
    Also thumbs up for Norway and the other Scandinavian countries they set a great example of how the standard of living should be in all countries
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:08 am
    "Yes but America still wins because Norway`s shaped like a penis."

    Florida.

    Nuff said.

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    Tymberwulf Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:18 am
    They also only have 4.6 million people to take care of, or in terms most Americans can relate to, 22 states have more people in them than the entire country of Norway.

    Imagine an entire national government spending it`s efforts (and the citizens taxes - ranging from a little under 30% up to almost 50%)only on the state of Alabama.

    It is easy to point at small (population, not area) countries and go "Why can`t American be like that?" And the answer is we have way to many people to do something like this. And before someone starts to preach the reduce military spending sermon again think about this. If Norway was suddenly invaded, who would that ask for help? NATO. And who provides a large majority of the resources for NATO? The United States.

    Face it, we pay the price of the military to keep things under control and this allows countries like Norway and Denmark and anywhere else you want to mention to focus more on health care.

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    jkahoon Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:24 am
    ^^What he said.
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    Mantolwen Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:27 am
    The NHS is so bad, they give patients vouchers so they can get free treatment in the private sector!

    Anyway, Norway looks amazing, but they have less than a tenth the population of Britain.

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    bob2083 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:29 am
    i don`t thinks so. Companies are making a huge amount of profit with the private health care. Over here in U.K, the medicine prescribed is alot more controlled. E.G so many of my class mates whilst i use to study in america were on adderall or the other drug to be able to study better and for exams. You can`t even dream of getting a drug like that here because of the health risks. Anti depressants are prescribed so easily there compared to how hard it is here. I feel like i can say this cause i`ve seen for myself. The country can afford if everybody payed their taxes and a percentage went to the nationalized health care.
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:31 am
    I was going to say something insightful but I think Tymberwulf covered most of it.

    I went to Norway for 2 days to visit a couple of friends, and they were living the life of luxury. And I couldn`t find any technically poor people anywhere (maybe I wasn`t looking hard enough).

    Stuff is relatively expensive though...

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    bob2083 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:31 am
    i don`t thinks so. Companies are making a huge amount of profit with the private health care. Over here in U.K, the medicine prescribed is alot more controlled. E.G so many of my class mates whilst i use to study in america were on adderall or the other drug to be able to study better and for exams. You can`t even dream of getting a drug like that here because of the health risks. Anti depressants are prescribed so easily there compared to how hard it is here. I feel like i can say this cause i`ve seen for myself. The country can afford if everybody payed their taxes and a percentage went to the nationalized health care.
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    jkahoon Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:46 am
    Well, I tried to look up problems in Norway such as Drug trafficking, politics or economy. None of that came up, however, the only problem noted was a rather high rate of suicides among gay and lesbians.

    o_O

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    _Requiem_ Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:14 am
    Dear Norway,
    Can I sleep over? Forever? I promise I won`t take up too much space :(
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    Skjold Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:18 am
    I`m Norwegian myself (although currently living in Denmark) and I can be the first to add something negative to my country (other than the penis shape). As jkahoon was talking about, Norway has a extremely high suicide rate, not only amongst homosexuals. We also have a large amount of drugs and drug-abuse, not alcoholism as was suggested earlier. Everything you see in the film is true, and it could last for another hour in the same track. Norways biggest problems is inflation (due to too much money) and the russians (as with everybody else). It was also mentioned that everything is really expencive, but looking at the income of the average norwegian, we have som of the cheapest (i.e.) groceries, gas, cars, real-estate in Europe, maybe the western world. Taxes are maxed at 41% and includes everything but free dental-care. We are not part of the European Union, which keeps imigration to a minimum and based on needs rater than goodwill. Feel free to comment.
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    miakauisan Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:22 am
    velcome to communist state of America
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    Bajatar Female 40-49
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:41 am
    @Tymberwulf:

    What does the number of citizens have to do with the quality of their government? If at all, I would expect that a system working for more people could be more efficient.

    The "who will protect you in case of an invasion" argument is also turning in recent years. Who says it won`t be the US that`s going to invade again? ;)

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    zoinks Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:44 am
    WTF!!! they arrest a guy for killing people with a chain-saw, and then as soon as he gets to prison they give him another one! one day someone isnt gonna be all nice and complacent and then hes gonna go on a fricken killing spree
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:53 am
    Skjold. i wish sweden didnt take in as many imigrants as we do now, they kinda ruing the economy with theyr "not working and living of wellfare" oh and the FACT they stand for over 90% of the crime in sweden... but asid from that sweden is a nice place to be, denmark seems nicer though, with "skåne" the southern part of sweden would go over to denmark again
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    veislakt Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:53 am
    I`m norwegian and that prison on the end of the clip is for the very last part of the inmates sentences. They only get to that prison after careful examination and it`s only a small percentage of inmates that get to go there anyways. Oh, and in Norway we have prisons to stop people from doing more crime, make them better kinda, not to keep them away from the public like in most of the US.
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    gnctrkcll Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:05 am
    I saw Sicko last year and loved it. I wish I lived in Norway lol.
    Tymberwulf, you got a point though, just the city I live in has 10 million people in it.
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    rodrigorenzo Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:15 am
    "He killed ten people with a knife, now he works at he kitchen"

    ...and think that people used to be wikings...

    uhaEHUaeuhaEUhuHUAEuhAEAU

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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:17 am
    In response to Tymberwulf: The figure I heard was that if the USA halved the amount of money it spends on military, EVERY child in the WORLD could have a proper education. So I don`t think America is low on money or anything.

    As much as I like America, the education system and health system are no where near as good as they should be.

    Thought this might be relevant to the video. This is the United Nations ranking of countries based on quality of life (list from 2007).

    1.Iceland
    2.Norway
    3.Australia
    4.Canada
    5.Ireland
    6.Sweden
    7.Switzerland
    8.Japan
    9.Netherlands
    10.France
    11.Finland
    12.United States
    13.Spain
    14.Denmark
    15.Austria
    16.United Kingdom
    17.Belgium
    18.Luxembourg
    19.New Zealand
    20.Italy
    21.Hong Kong
    22.Germany
    23.Israel
    24.Greece
    25.Taiwan
    26.Singapore
    27.South Korea
    28.Slovenia
    29.Cyprus

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    Skjold Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:42 am
    @ vintagepizza: Just an additional fact to the UNs list: All 2004-05-06, Norway was first. The reason for the fall is not due to poorer lifequality in Norway, merely a boost of lifequality on Iceland :)
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    MagicPaul Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:44 am
    plus... hot Scandinavian blondes!
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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:49 am
    Yep. From what I remember Norway, Iceland, Canada and Japan are frequently in first place.
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    Mhackqz Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:51 am
    The most annoying thing, in my point of view, is the news that just lie straight up in the face of every american. Telling the country how micheal moore is a pathetic liar. Hes honestly not lying.
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    Strange-Days Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:56 am
    Im amazed as an Australian citizen that we are 3rd. Bwahahahahaha me thinks things are askew. Education yes but healthcare, legal system, freedoms/rights no. I`d love to visit Norway well i guess most of scandanavia looks (from the small amount iv heard and seen) a great place to live.
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    jkahoon Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 5:10 am
    ^^Well no. Michael Moore is a pathetic liar. Most of his movies are ridiculously elaborated and stretch the truth. I`m sure he`s not lying about Norway. But notice he didn`t put it in his movie. Because THEN, he would be telling the truth, and that`s just not what he is known for.
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    kongen Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 5:32 am
    Tymberwulf: USofA dont HAVE 2 be a world-police.
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 5:41 am
    It`s not the case of how much you`re spending, it`s the matter of *where* you`re spending it.

    Norway evidently spends the money on welfare, and luxury, while I`m guessing US spends a lot more on military than norway, so probably that`s why even though US may produce more money, but is not living the same standards.

    Besides, if 2 countries produce the same amount of money, and one country has less population, obviously there`d be more money to spend for the people there, no?

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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2008 at 5:47 am
    If Mr. Moore thinks so much of Norway, I for one would like to invite him to move there and get the hell out of my life.
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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 5:52 am
    I WANNA GO TO EUROPE
    except (insert long list here)
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:04 am
    Noone wil probably read this since its not on the first page but: Norway rocks and looks like a utopia next to any counrty, but ppl here are spoiled, seriusly, i was in America for a month on vacation and ppl there was waaay more polite. seriusly, this problem will most likely not go into any register or anything but it realy can be senced.
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:05 am
    Oh and Michael more rocks!!! (,,).
    but he did make Norway sound bether than it is :P
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    icantthink41 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:24 am
    a country run by liberals? no wonder they are so messed up, helpful kind people. terrible
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    janeyyet Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:47 am
    Well, I tried to look up problems in Norway such as Drug trafficking, politics or economy. None of that came up, however, the only problem noted was a rather high rate of suicides among gay and lesbians.

    ^^ Look at the united states and it`s suicide levels? The #1 reason teen boys kill themselfs is because they`re gay and people won`t accept them. 1/3 of all gay and lesbians in collage attempt suicide. And there`s probably plenty more scary statistics.

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    uuaschbaer Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:59 am
    I`m moving to Norway, goodbye.
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    bored-am-I Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 7:13 am
    Dear Requiem
    You can come and stay at my place in Oslo. Forever :)
    X
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    mago Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 7:22 am
    With a very small and completely homogeneous population it`s not surprising the Norwegians can make socialism work.

    Try it on a larger scale (i.e. the US) and a similar program would be doomed to failure.

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    Powernuke Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 7:27 am
    My favorite thing about Norway... Norwegian Black Metal!
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    alikabul Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 7:37 am
    "Yes but America still wins because Norway`s shaped like a penis."

    Well, we`re a bunch of vikings... What`d you expect?
    Nice vid... Made me feel good about being a norwegian viking. We also have the biggest annual LAN-party in the world and some of the worlds best gamers.(a little sidenote for all you geeks.)

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    Ruswut Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 7:42 am
    His voce just makes me want to strangle him till he shuts up... watched it long enough to get that Norway is great and US sucks and that for some reason he was narrating for a movie that he wouldn`t make o.O
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    dameloth Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:15 am
    More is very one sided in all of his movies, even a blind man could see that, but aside from that, he presents facts that pretty much anyone could find on the internet in about fifteen minutes, given you know how to use goggle effectively.
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    biffyclyro27 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:17 am
    yeah but that would never work in any country with a higher population than Norway. Norway has a pretty low population and it`s very expensive
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    museike Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:22 am
    "completely homogeneous population"

    you`re a moron

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    elHadji Male 70 & Over
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:36 am
    I don`t know how it is in norway, but here in Sweden you`re allowed to say "drat you" and other curse words to the police without being arrested/getting into trouble for it XD
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    Doodally Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:42 am
    I still can`t stand micheal moore
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:49 am
    "Cultural Melting Pot". That defines the United States. Where in Norway are the Black Folks? The Mexicans? The Asians? Norway is now where the U.S. Was in the fifties, with a Predominantly White Population. Norwegians draw their roots from the Same Cultural heritage. Similar Customs, Ethics, and Physical Characteristics. *IF* that were the case in the United States, I am sure we`d be living in a halcyon wonderland too. I didn`t see the Racist Gangs in the Norwegian Prisons because there apparently is no reason for them to be racist.

    Sure, it looks good on a Video, but I don`t see Michael Moore moving there for some reason. Norway is now where the U.S. Was in the fifties, with a Predominantly White Population. By the time you twenty somethings watching this video are getting ready to retire your country *WILL BE* facing the exact same bull poo we are because in the Fifties, the rest of the world was reading the same bullpoo propaganda about how great the U.S. was.

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    EvianPosh Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:12 am
    *moves*
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    RelaxEnjoy Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:20 am
    lol @ people who think that countries without massive military spending would get invaded
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    Crystal949 Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:26 am
    They`re a country of 4 1/2 million, of course there`s less corruption because there`s less people
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    rakata Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:36 am
    i wish nobody drat this country so they can stay away from the world , no ww1 no ww2 no muslims around , no jews , no asians evanding us
    yep i always be proud of my scandinavian descendets
    but im in russia and im drat up noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
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    nat000 Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:41 am
    ^
    What??
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    nycballa890 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:01 am
    seems like a great way to live but look how vulnerable they are to terrorists, foreign invasions, US got nukes marines >:-D
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    tatervent Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:18 am
    lol, this is hilarious.

    Anyone here tell me what follows golden ages?

    Anyone want to take a guess as to what would happen if the Norwegian government had our population to serve (and I don`t mean just the numbers, I mean the individuals)

    Michael Moore is pathetic. I can`t argue against this video, but I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that if I took the time to research (which I won`t) the country would be no where near the utopia he makes it out to be.

    Half of this is based on the fact that I know the U.S. is no where near the hell he, and asses like him, make it out to be.

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    Doomlike Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:25 am
    Bah, who eats patatoes 3 days in a weak ? WE THE DUTCH !

    Who has a sea ready to kill them if they don`t ensure the dikes become higher ? THE DUTCH !

    Who has a growing percentage of people who tend to lean towards to extrme right wing politicall toughts ? THE DUTCH !

    And which country has the most laws in Europe !? WOOOHOOO ! YHEA IT`s Holland baby ! Oh man why was I ever unhappy to live here ! :0

    Face it people where to hot to handle ! The Netherlands is the way to go.

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    s0urcandie Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:37 am
    wha........
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    daftshadow Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:37 am
    Interesting enough.
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    ukulelemike Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:42 am
    Sure-great health care system-paid for by the almost 50% tax rate! So, give us half your money every payday, and we`ll "give" you free health care.
    You know why that policeman wasn`t wearing a gun? Norway has the higest percentage of private gun ownership in Europe, and the lowest crime rate, along with it.
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    Doomlike Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:45 am
    Mike makes sense. But still I wouldn`t mind paying some extra tax to get that much awsomness.
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    shishkabob Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:46 am
    i hate michela moore , so bad, im not saying that what he says is false, its just all he seems to do is make every country look so much better than the U.S., its like he hates the U.S. with every bone in his body. and kno what i have to say to that? GET THE F*CK OUT OF THE U.S. IF DON`T LIKE IT THEN WHY ARE YOU A F*CKING CITIZEN OF IT!? GO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THERE`S PLENTY OF COUNTRIES WHO AGREE WITH YOU
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    shishkabob Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:47 am
    micheal**
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:59 am
    Call me old fashioned, but I`d rather have murderers and rapists in prison for the rest of their lives. Norway rewards killers by sending them to some spa? WTF? Something isn`t right, and Michael Moore is a dumb@$$. Healthcare might work for smaller countries, but the United States` Federal gov`t is full of greeding SOBs.
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    cookii Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:03 am
    so, Norway has massive suicide rates, drug problems, far too many taxes, and a predominantly white population, which could make way for racism. it doesn`t sound as brilliant as it did five minutes ago. im moving to Ireland. they have leprechauns there.
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    jmk4422 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:10 am
    Yeah, so they get free health care, free college, a year maternity leave, paid tropical vacations, <40 hour work weeks, mandatory vacation time, and renewable energy. But we get tanks and guns and big ol` warships. Tell me truly, which benefits the average citizen more: utopian-like labor, health, and education laws, or the ability to blow crap up? I rest my case.
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    Twotall Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:22 am
    Speaking as a Norwegian...

    please remember that you are seeing a Michael Moore propaganda movie here. For one thing, Bastøy is a MINIMUM-security prison, reserved only for a select few who has shown good behaviour during most of their stay in normal prisons. We also DO have the opportunity to lock people up for life, although it is then not referred to as "prison", but as "protective care" (for the public, that is).

    In addition, lots of what Moore said was technically true, but he did not mention the downside of living here, such as overcrowded retirement homes, public buildings (schools, town halls etc) practically falling down from disrepair, all the bureaucracy to get said benefits, etc.

    Yes, life here is pretty good, but there are problems here, as in every country. Moore just chooses to gloss them over to present his own agenda.

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    larajunky Female 40-49
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:26 am
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah ... *I`m jealous*... blah blah blah blah blah.......
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    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:32 am
    No death penalty, no life sentences, unarmed police... They gave a guy who killed two people with a chainsaw... A CHAINSAW to work with while in prison? The longest sentence is 21 years? So if someone blows up a building and kills 100 people, they`re looking at a measly 21 years in some kind of resort prison?

    Holy drat, Moore thinks these are good ideas?

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    shamille Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:37 am
    Norway?

    more like Snoreway.

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    Iroj Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:39 am
    "They`re a country of 4 1/2 million, of course there`s less corruption because there`s less people"

    Thats such crap. What about countries like Japan where there are hundreds of millions of people crammed together very tightly and yet the crime rate and standard of living are better than the `almighty` US?

    Like I said, I lived in Denmark and when I had to move back to the US I was just...so upset. I hated it, and having lived somewhere else in the world that actually cares about their citizens made me realize just how much Americans are willingly ass-raped (without lube) on a daily basis.

    I want to move back, but its almost impossible for me because some many are moving over to Scandinavia and abusing the welfare system (as someone else mentioned); they see its basically a utopia and move their lazy asses over there and drat up the process for people who want to go over there, work, pay taxes and actually CONTRIBUTE to society.

    There. End rant.

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    snalin Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:42 am
    "where in Norway are the Black Folks? The Mexicans? The Asians? “
    The capital, Oslo, has about 40% foreigners, most Muslim. You fail.

    “but look how vulnerable they are to terrorists”
    No terrorist attacks against Norway. Ever. Some delegates were attacked in Iraq, but that’s it.

    “Anyone here tell me what follows golden ages?”
    Our golden age has lasted from the sixties, from before we had the oil. We build up a socialistic welfare-nation. And it worked. Tada!

    “Sure-great health care system-paid for by the almost 50% tax rate! So, give us half your money every payday, and we`ll "give" you free health care.”
    And free school, pensions, a good piece of money to physicaly challenged people, protection of Norwegian farmers, and a hell of a lot of stuff to make you happy.

    You see, there’s no f*cking chance that you would find someone with a full-time job here that’s poor, unless that person has some

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    snalin Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:42 am

    As far as I have noticed, in the US you can have two full-time jobs and still be poor. Here, with two full time jobs, even at a fast food store, you’d be filthy rich. And we only work 8 hours a day, though there’s discussion about if we should lower that to 7 or 6.

    “Norway rewards killers by sending them to some spa?”
    Norway uses therapy to make killers understand that what they do is wrong. And the spa is only for the ones that have been declared mentally stable and willing to change by shrinks. It works. It heals them. It gives them back a worthy life and allows them to contribute to the community, instead of being parasites in prison. Everybody wins. I cannot remember any stories about anyone getting out after 21 years and then kill someone again.

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    snalin Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:42 am
    There are of course downsides, amongst others that politicians have gone on an upgrade-spree through the school, thereby giving Norwegian pupils some of the lowest grades ever. We have low degrees of racism, the small nazi organisations that try to mess up everything is just that, small, and we are staying out of the EU (wohoo!). Of course, much of our riches comes from the fat loads of oil we have, and that they are owned by the state (lucky us). But we got the welfare before that. The (then) left-wing party winning all the elections for 40 years, the Norwegian variant of labour gave us the best welfare system in the world.

    To the Americans out there, pull yourselves together, tear down your society and rebuild it to something other than the “celebrate the ones that make it, crush the rest to the ground”-principle that you are so proud of building your nation around.

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    Iroj Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:55 am
    Hi, Snalin, marry me, for real. It seems about the only way I can get into Europe anymore thanks to all the people moving over there and drating up the system.
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    thats_nifty Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:05 pm
    Thanks it,

    I`m going to move to Norway. Right now. So long America, land of working 3 jobs so you can live in a cardboard box.

    Hey, Snalin? Could you marry me too? I can cook!

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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    I like pie...
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    That`s not Norway lol.

    Norway`s educational system sucks.

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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:20 pm
    "Yes but America still wins because Norway`s shaped like a penis."

    If you are pointing to the genital shaped part on the map of the European Union, it is Sweden that is the penis, and Finland the testicles. Norway isn`t in the European Union.

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    goodbye777 Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    I`ve been to countries with social health care. Now why it might seem nice. Some of the best doctors are in private practice. If you walk into a hospital most of the doctors will be pretty young. The reason, they are waiting to save enough money to get into a PRIVATE PRACTICE. Now, I also agree with the population thing. Most states are bigger than some countries that have social health care. Your health care should be based on your ability to pay. Like taxes. Just giving it away, doesn`t help anybody. Well, it helps the patient... but it doesn`t help the government. And in the end the government just giving away money, make an unstable economy.
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    diablocat9 Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 12:35 pm
    Wow. Norway`s cool. From the video and the posts I`ve read so far, I`ve realised it`s hard to live in America. I`m not proud of this, but I am proud that it makes me tougher.
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    Yaos Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    Hmm, should I believe a man that has been shown to lie nonstop?
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm
    Norway has a population of approximately 4 million...which is half the population of New York city.


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    wtfneonazis Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:25 pm
    Norway has a ridiculous amount of natural resources and minerals, such as oil and lumber. When coupled with such a small population it makes goverment handouts feasible.
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    pat125 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    Ooooooh free health care. Yet people constantly come to the US for major surgery (And no I`m not full of it, I know several people in the healthcare field). While social medicine may make everyone`s wallets happy, you trade this luxury for state funded doctors and long triage lines. Whereas in the US, you have to pay for your care (which is usually covered by insurance for people who actually have a job) but you tend to receive more prompt care because of a competitive capitalist system.

    And this is all considering that it`s against the law not to accept a patient for emergency care who cannot pay, so the myth about someone being denied at the ER entrance because they don`t have a check book is complete BS.

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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:29 pm
    I think the one thing that we`ve learned is that no matter where we are in the world, we always think it`s better elsewhere.
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    qquuaacckk Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 1:44 pm
    Norway is all white people
    Sudan is all black people
    USA is a mix.
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    NOFX14 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    oh boy people pulling out the stats to discredit the clip again. too bad people can`t believe our country sucks so much. i dont care if we have more people, the point is our healthcare is horrible! thats all!
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    spongamabob Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    is this a joke or is this for real?
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    coranthulle Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm
    Ok i have read alot of these and now feel i must interject. Iroj.
    Been to Japan for a while, and i can say first hand why they have little crime (i say little because its still there just not as noticable)One is everyone born there and raised Japanese, is raised under a different philosophy than most raised here in the states. Its a case of enivironment dictating the actions of the one. Second is the penalty for breaking laws there is severe. In the states you get put in jail for misdemeanors and then fined and released until their hearing. In Japan, there is no police cruelty clauses. They will beat the living hell out of you if you dont follow thier explicit instructions and ignorance of the language is no excuse either. Then once you are in jail they do not have to feed or water you. That burden is placed on your friends and family. Then there is no speedy trial or bail. You sit until they are damn well ready to deal with you which may take several months to years even.
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    coranthulle Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    Snalin,
    Only muslims you say? Tell me are they demanding that you hand over your hard earned money to them for nothing? Or how about demanding you change your language to support them completely? Are they buying every single company in your country and then closing it down and moving it to another country? You see in the states we have these problems with our "immigrants". They come to our country and because of the way our political system works they can make these demands and the system feels obligated to fullfill them.
    No terrorist attacks because the terrorists have a much larger target, the US. If we werent here who do you think would be next and then after them and so on. Eventually the terrorist would get down to Norway, simply because they have no one else to terrorize and Norway doesnt follow their doctrine. Thats how terrorists work. You dont agree with them, they blow you up. It wouldnt matter if you didnt impinge on them they will impinge on you sooner or l
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    coranthulle Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    Snalin cont.,

    Golden age, built up on tax revenue on oil. So what happens when the oil runs out? Then what? No tax revenue = no money to sustain programs for people. Eventually your dark ages will come. Perhaps sooner than you think. Have you checked the latest statistics for oil reserves world wide. The earth is running out of oil and Norway is high on the list of depleted reserves. Dont worry you time is comming, and it wont be long.

    As for all the benefits for high taxes. I refer back to my above statements. Income and sales taxes dont make up the whole pie for revenues for programs and benefits. My research points to oil revenue actually making up over 60% of the necessary revenue to keep these programs rolling. So what happens when you lose that 60%? Programs start going away or other taxes start going up. What do you think the masses will do then? Fewer and fewer benefits (or lack of quality of those programs) will result in unhappy citizens that will demand change.

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    kobesteak Male 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    i didnt read posts but wouldn`t the taxes be drating insane?
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    itsdanielle Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm
    it`s like modern day Pleasantville. or that place in the Walgreen`s commercials. :P
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    coranthulle Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:14 pm
    Snalin,
    Tell me something about your murderers. Have any one of them relapsed into their old methods? In the states you can do the same thing, go to your parole hearings and prove to doctors and regents that you are ready to re-enter society as a functioning member. We just choose not to surround our criminals in luxury. Problem is here a person can fake thier way through parole and go right back to killing, robbing, or whatever it was they did to begin with. Im sure you answer will be "of course not when we heal our criminals they stay healed". But my research says otherwise. According to my research it says that your countries, crime rate has a 48% repeat offense rate. That means nearly half of your inmates will repeat their offenses once released. How is this true rehabilitation? I will give you that the US has a higher repeatability rate, but the point im making is that your criminal system is far from perfect.
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    Camira Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm
    I know somone from Scandanavia... and a couple that have been to Norway... I`ve heard its not all pardise and puppy dogs. Apparently when... No, I won`t go into it.
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    SGB Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:22 pm
    The longest prison sentence in Norway is 21 years?

    I think thats what Varg Vikernes got...he`s not seving the longest sentence ever in Norway surely?

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    Computron Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm
    I`m bleaching my hair now and buying a one way ticket, see ya!
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    DeeCache Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:29 pm
    Thats it, im packin up and moving ot Norway! whose comin with?
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    DeeCache Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    Well I guess Alberta is good enough, until we get bombed or soemthing... I luff oils
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    bika Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 3:46 pm
    yeah.. thats my country, my country hehe :P
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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    They are awesome but one thing I question is..giving a man who used a chainsaw to kill two people..a chainsaw while in prison? Hm...
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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:12 pm
    I have always wanted to move to Norway, they are the best country in the world by far. Beautiful place and people.
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    Iroj Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 4:35 pm
    "In Japan, there is no police cruelty clauses. They will beat the living hell out of you if you dont follow thier explicit instructions and ignorance of the language is no excuse either. Then once you are in jail they do not have to feed or water you. That burden is placed on your friends and family. Then there is no speedy trial or bail. You sit until they are damn well ready to deal with you which may take several months to years even. "

    And thats the way it should be here, too, coren. Maybe then we wouldn`t have so many drating douche-bags walking around knowing that whatever they do they will basically get rewarded.

    When you have people who would rather go to prison that live at home because PRISON is better than the street/home, there is a big problem.

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    gozirra Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:02 pm
    Unfortunately you`re completely correct Iroj.
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    nat000 Female 13-17
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:33 pm
    Man, I love to stir up these sort of debates.
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    michaelteh Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:37 pm
    HAHAHAHAHA!!!! CANADIAN HEALTH CARE SUCKS!?!?!

    hi there, idiot, im from canada and we have an amazing health care system.

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    zecromancer Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:42 pm
    I think the prison system there is really good. Punishment only makes people worse.
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    shizzamX Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 6:43 pm
    i want to move to Norway now.
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    patridiot Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2008 at 8:06 pm
    You don`t have to move to Norway to get it that good. Stop voting republican. Accept that education, environment and healthcare are more important than military, guns, and hating gays. Consider a more socialist view. Capitalism never has been and never will be the answer. Greed and fear is no way to lead a country.
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    Pikachu42 Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 9:24 pm
    hell, i`m moving to norway. anyone wanna come with me?
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    roomv Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 10:29 pm
    Wow, you folks will believe anything that`s put in front of you, won`t you? As if such an issue could ever be SO black and white, as Mr. Moore depicts. Sure US health care has severe issues, but this film makes the situation look completely binary and that`s just sad. Now I can see how every tyrant and oppressive goverment that has ever existed got it`s power. Here you have a clearly arrogant and greedy filnmaker who is very well known for his aggresive yet undeniably one-sided use of propaganda, and when this man dangles images of a seemingly completely utopian society in front of you in an unabashed attempt to make everyone go "Oooh wow look at that!! He is obviously so right about everything!!", you just fall for it and buy into the idea that he is some kind of God-sent revolutionary and personal saviour from "Evil America" without even thinking for a second about whether you are actually being manipulated by this man just so he can use you to rake in millions o
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    Ratdog993 Female 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:21 pm
    Great, all Britain has is the highest teen pregnancy rate and the most unhappy teenagers. Yey!
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    tourettes Male 18-29
    957 posts
    January 21, 2008 at 11:37 pm
    the U.S. will never become a paradise for ordinary law-abiding citizens because the Corporate War Republicans believe that the War on Terror trumps everything, including the Constitution, Liberty, and Freedom. They want Corporations to control everything and "evil government" that by definition is supposed to be "Of the people, By the people, and For the people" should be abolished and thus everything will be for the corporations.

    Norway is a wonderful paradise, I do disagree with their prison system; giving a chainsaw murderer a job with chainsaws just doesn`t make sense to me. Where are their armed guards? Where is the appearance of a prison? Such a system couldn`t be run on the mainland <sarc> hmm I wonder why </sarc>

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    gotboost88 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:47 pm
    a government large enough to provide everything you need, is large enough to take everything you have
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    RodneyJason Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2008 at 11:48 pm
    Amazing what a country can do when they don`t blow all of their money on the military.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 12:25 am
    Before people get too bent out of shape about taxes, the upper-class pays about 35% income tax. I, personally, don`t believe in the lifestyle provided by Norway because, from what I`ve read and heard, this lifestyle comes sacrificing personal choice and the government deciding what is best for the people....

    But that`s beside the point. My point is that Norway has a much, MUCH smaller population and it isn`t just about tax revenue. The more people you have, the more government it takes to run the country -- so the real problem is the size of the American buracracy. Such a large government is not viable for the US right now because the system is so inefficient. Americans already complain that our education, military, law enforcement (etc.) systems are underfunded and inefficient. If we could ever have a system like this, our government needs to modernize (e.g. most of Europe is using fibre optics and the US is not).

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    _Requiem_ Female 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 1:13 am
    @bored_am_I- Awesome! I`ll bring the popcorn! :)
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    powpowking Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2008 at 3:41 am
    wow............just.....wow.........
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    kongen Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 4:59 am
    "Amazing what a country can do when they don`t blow all of their money on the military"

    Yupp!

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    Doomlike Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2008 at 5:53 am
    Hahaha, hear the Americans complain because Norway is doing somuch better. I think some people are a litle depressed seeing how the US economy is doing at the moment.
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    gorgokid333 Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2008 at 7:41 am
    and other countries dont take norway over because that would be like jumping on a puppy.
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    kallemoen Male 13-17
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    January 22, 2008 at 8:08 am
    yes it`s true... norway is a pretty cool country to live in:D:D
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    wolladude Male 30-39
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    January 22, 2008 at 8:57 am
    obhwfgirl: More people = more tax revenue = more money to pay for the bigger administration.

    So your arguments are a bit flawed.

    Also, what personal choices do the norwegians have to sacrifice in order to live like this? That argument makes no sence, the people elect the government, so the people decide in the end.

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    andre1980 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm
    Coranthulle:
    1: What has Norway to do with Japan?!

    2: The muslims: No, No, and No!

    3: And why do you think the target is the US? Maybe because of your wars and your military presence in the middle east?

    4: Norway was built up before the oil...

    5: What happens when the oil runs out: We still have the money! Ever heard about The Government Pension Fund - Global? It`s the largest pension fund in europe, and second largest in the world, around the same size as the California public-employees fund. By the end of 2009 it will reach NOK 3.044 trillion or US$563.7 billion. That`s as if every Norwegian had us$119,936 in their bank-account. We also have other businesses, you know!

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    andre1980 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 12:59 pm
    coranthulle:

    6: You say "My research points to oil revenue actually making up over 60% of the necessary revenue to keep these programs rolling." In 2007 Norway used NOK 71 billion of a National budget of NOK 689 billion. That is 10,3%!

    7: You say we have a 48% repat offense rate. Actually it`s 47,2%. But that`s If you include all the traffic-offences (like speeding or DUI). Look closer at the numbers, you will find that 13,9% repeats violent crimes, 6,7% in sexual crimes, and so on.

    So the next time you try to find our flaws, do your homework better!

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    trello Male 30-39
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    January 22, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    Roomv - OK, so you don`t like Michael Moore. However, does that stop him being right?

    Yes, he makes aggressive film-making, and yes, his documentaries are one-sided, but then again, so is everything in the media nowadays. - While you go on about how he makes things so `black & white`, take a look at aspects of the Bush administration`s global policy.

    What Michael Moore is doing is pulling off the same propaganda tricks that you see on TV every day, but he`s telling the other side of the story.

    And, quite frankly, good luck to him if he`s making millions! That`s the American way, right? Tell you what, let`s also berate Noam Chomsky for making money by writing those evil books, and give George Bush jr. a prize for his continuing nurturing of big businesses, liberating oil fields, ensuring that all those good US soldier boys have something to do in their spare time, and allowing all those nice people the chance to earn loads of money from your illnesses. What a guy!

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    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2008 at 8:47 pm
    Well my family moved from Norway to the US in the 1880`s... I think its time we move back :D

    now to learn to speak the language.

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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    January 22, 2008 at 9:16 pm
    "How do you tell a communist? Well, it`s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It`s someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

    -Ronald Reagan

    Just thought I would piss someone off with a Reagan quote.

    The US does not have to become socialists to fix things like health care. Let doctors be doctors by limiting legal liability for any normal procedures that natural have a form of risk to them lowering insurance liability and stop trying to force them into HMO`s.

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    alice_x Female 18-29
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    January 25, 2008 at 7:32 am
    Norway is beautiful, i went with my boyfriend and hes family and we saw a moose lol.
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    rathat Male 13-17
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    January 25, 2008 at 10:11 pm
    damn, Scandinavia is awesome.
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    rathat Male 13-17
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    January 25, 2008 at 10:21 pm
    this is so cool
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    Jimmi Male 13-17
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    January 26, 2008 at 11:58 am
    Regardless of the fact Norway seems like the ideal place to live, I think I`ll stay in the United States for a bit. Nice video though.
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    peskybarb Female 40-49
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    January 26, 2008 at 9:26 pm
    I did notice that in the countries that Michael Moore keeps showing as wonderful, they are not being inundated with poor, uneducated people from their neighboring country. The countries who control their immigration have higher standards of living for their people - period.
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    br0ken Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2008 at 9:57 am
    Norway is great. And thats coming from a non-Norwegian who has spent time in Norway. Its not perfect, but what country is? Michael Moore is an idiot.
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    beazegor Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2008 at 11:48 am
    The reasion that Norway is like it is, is because Norway stands behind the opinion that the one that need`s helping, must get help. that`s what it`s build on, and oil money ofc.

    but we also have other priorities, we want good health instead of a large army..


    and usa will never become like us, not because the population difrence, but simly because the avrange amarican is to selfish and greedy.

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    Red5TheFinn Male 13-17
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    January 27, 2008 at 9:54 pm
    Im proud t obe a canadian for many reason and this is a biggg:::: Eastern U.S 2:34 am a couple walk into a hspital with their daughter who is ill they have been barely keeping a roof over their heads but they are more concerned for their daughter *** the operation is a success and they are givin their bill one hundred thousand dollars roughly they are done their daughters health has doomed them and now they die off in the cold of the night months later
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    Thegodofhats Female 13-17
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    February 2, 2008 at 10:08 pm
    Just something for all the people who are like "I want to move to NorwaY!!1!!1!1" and people who don`t like Moore`s movies. Probably no one will read this, but whatever:

    I think that the point of Moore`s movies isn`t to present perfect facts, but rather to present ideas and ideals to members of the population who would not otherwise think much about world politics (the uneducated, the young, the people who just ignore such things). I don`t think he`s really trying to teach us, he`s just getting thinking so that we`ll seek more accurate info ourselves. And now look, people online are comparing and contrasting different countries and types of governments in a not all together immature way.

    Who knows? I could be wrong. At least it`s a possitive take on things, right?

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    Jabbox Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2008 at 10:01 pm
    Yeah? well, Kenya has LIONS!
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    kickass9 Male 13-17
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    March 30, 2008 at 4:47 pm
    Norway is numero uno in the UN`s human development index.
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    July 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
    I`m from norway... and we do have plenty other problems, but maybe not as sincere... as a people i think we are fairly narrow minded, and rude.. maybe even arrogant :O... and our school system is the worst in the western world i can think of!! (i`ve been to an international school in asia)... i also wish the prison sentences were much stricter to minimize crime, im actually surprised its so little! But i guess we focus on rehabilitation instead of "lockup-in-a-cell-for-along-time"...
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