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Date: 12/15/07 12:20 AM

49 Responses to Principal Tells Teachers To Dumb-Down Standards

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:51 pm
    Link: Principal Tells Teachers To Dumb-Down Standards - The principal`s memo is written verbatim in the article, and yeah--those kids are in trouble when they get older.
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    rabbeseking Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 9:40 pm
    Jeez, thats pretty screwed up
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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:23 am
    Mai prinsipple did the saym theeng and mai ejacashin wuz gud.
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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:24 am
    y moar news articles?
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    nadav22 Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:26 am
    "it`s like cheating yourselves"

    well yeah but with the principal`s permission

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    TJAW Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:28 am
    I don`t need the principal to tell me how to fail!!
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    ieatbunnies Male 30-39
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:32 am
    Its not because they are poor, its because they are black, and therefore not as smart... duh.
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    Dragonlord Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:47 am
    This is sorta a hard one to call. If only 65% of the students are passing school-wide, than it`s not a problem with individual teachers. This leaves a limited set of solutions that could be used, and sadly enough, the principal used one. Do I agree with the principal? No. Do I think there was justification what (s)he did? Yes.
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 12:50 am
    AKappy wins. Can`t think of any way to beat that :(
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    SpoonFork Male 30-39
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:29 am
    What, nobody`s going to start putting down people in the US being stupid? What`s the hold-up?
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    Victor_Watts Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:30 am
    Our society has become so pussified.

    It shouldn`t be a big effing deal for a teacher to give a student an F - the grade in itself doesn`t mean that student is a failure, it just means he didn`t grasp the material within a certain time frame for whatever reason, and needs more time on it. This "oh don`t fail him, he tried hard" fagotry has resulted in way too many clueless morons attaining high level positions they don`t deserve.

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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:36 am
    i need some coddling; i only passed 1/5 classes this semester. i guess that means i need to LURK MOAR
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    calmelbourne Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:58 am
    I think that if less than 65% of the class is passing, the standards should be lowered. There`s nothing so great about expecting every student to be a genius. In one of my classes the highest grade was a B+ and it just sucks, an A+ should definitely represent the brightest student, not the limit of the teacher`s standards.
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    xViTAMiN22 Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 2:14 am
    Maybe their standards were too high?
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    PianoMan21 Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 2:47 am
    Seems like some of the kids interviewed wanted to improve standards instead of lower them. Clearly the problem stems from the administration, not the students.
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    Hansbo Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 4:24 am
    lol mine tacher dumd down our standards and i are not ungood at speiling in all!
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    HarryBalszak Male 40-49
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    December 15, 2007 at 6:52 am
    What we really need is smarter teachers.
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    LadyAlathia Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 8:23 am
    I kept thinking as it was loading "Please not Florida please not Florida..." And a little happy tingle ran through me when I saw it was Harlem.

    See... in Florida we have the single greatest number of "Drop Out Factories" in the United States. 163 of 319 high schools have a dropout rate of 40% OR MORE!!

    When I moved here from New York city to start the fourth grade year... they wanted to move me to the seventh grade, because THIRD GRADE IN NEW YORK IS EQUAL TO SIXTH GRADE IN FLORIDA!!!!!!!

    I`m so homeschooling my kids.

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    icelover Female 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 8:25 am
    What we really need is smarter teachers...

    I AGREE!

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    LadyAlathia Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 8:28 am

    Can`t get smarter teachers unless you pay them. Can`t pay them unless the State has money.
    State doesn`t get money unless the Feds give it to them.
    Feds can`t give money until Congress passes an education spending bill
    Congress can`t pass it unless the President approves it.....

    and our president has vetoed three THIS YEAR.

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    B-Hazard Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 9:53 am
    We need that money for the war, dammit.
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    jeffkodine Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 10:19 am
    ^^...and not healthcare for our kids, who cares if our kids are sick as long as we have tanks in iraq!

    Who would expect Bush to care about education? He doesn`t have one, himself

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    Fuego Male 40-49
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    December 15, 2007 at 10:20 am
    smarter students equals lower enlistment rate for military. Why would we want smarter citizens when we can raise bullet-catchers instead?
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    Mariabethia Female 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 10:42 am
    I hate to say it but living in America sometimes embarrasses me.
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    ender568 Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 11:07 am
    Don`t u wish u went to school there? Those kids are gonna be perfect for the army someday, bless their little hearts. I wondered where the military were getting their new recruits.
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    Naz14 Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 11:54 am
    ahh i can see why hes saying to lower the my home town..SO many people failed their classes cause they were too interested in talking to their friends about the party they were going to go to after school until 3am...and yet they can take 2 hours to do their hair in the an hour for highschool was good...but it was SOOO full of drama and idiots
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    Tyrizzle Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:32 pm
    It makes sense cause I live in area somewhat like that...

    I think they shouldn`t do it though...because I can almost promise those kids who are not passing don`t want to be there and are probably just slanging dope while they are there causing problems...I hate them...
    I hope they become bullet catchers

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    vanillabear Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 2:33 pm
    "No word back yet from the principal."

    `Cause hes probably in Mexico or fleeing to Mexico as we speak.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 4:32 pm
    ""If you are not passing more than 65 percent of your students in a class, then you are not designing your expectations to meet their abilities, and you are setting your students up for failure, which, in turn, limits your success as a professional.""...

    YOU DAMNED FOOL! go talk to all 5 of my profs. they`ll insult you more accurately than I can.

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    Snarkypants Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    Erm, is that surprising? Public education has been about moving at the pace of the slowest snail for at least a decade. It`s not "fair", you see, to allow morons to fail. It`s much more fair to let everyone graduate, even if they can`t pass a basic spelling test or do long division.
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    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 7:45 pm
    most of the stuff u learn in school is pointless
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    glocktypus Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 7:52 pm
    and they will continue to be poor because of bad schooling
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    Djer Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 7:56 pm
    I`ve always wondered what would happen if the U.S. made secondary education a choice...We`d probably end up with the same result, except it wouldn`t be the teachers fault.
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    sidewinder69 Female 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 7:56 pm
    oh thank god, for a second there i thought I was gonna have to go to Iraq but luckily some stupid kidn can take my place :D
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    Stentorian Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 9:16 pm
    Standards should not be lowered. Schools should be split, giving limited education to the idiots and giving the best the best education. We should not be wasting effort and money on kids that cannot handle learning.

    If kids are dumb, leave them behind and elevate the best. Elitism in education works.

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    idiotkiller Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 9:32 pm
    This is what you get when the government is in charge of things. I don`t think their bosses are going to lower standards to compensate for their lazy-ass employees.
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    sarajayne33 Female 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 11:37 pm
    "theyre not growing up in the same conditons we did"
    or something like that is what the principle said.

    well maybe if his generation didnt fu*k things up so much then it wouldnt be that way.

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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 11:39 pm
    I think its an excuse to give them more money, most establishments give money to the ones that do the best, and weed out the institutions that can`t teach their kids. However, I also believe its the students more then the teachers, a lot of people use their home life as an excuse not to learn, instead of trying to apply themselves. If it was bad enough where you can`t study or learn, or do your homework, thats where you take it to child services or something. I don`t like the dumb it down standards either, most countries in europe and asia, teach their kids 2-3 languages as mandatory, including english, when they START school, where as we have to take it as elective? That isn`t right. I took the time to learn 4 languages outside of school just to stay on par with the rest of the world, as well as take free online classes (not for college or anything) to learn physics and astronomy. Right now I am taking IT programs, after reading up on it, and it shocks me that other people I..
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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 11:41 pm
    take my classes with are dumb as rocks, even my teacher keeps referencing my own essays, because they make more sense then what SHE would say. It`s sickening.. this is why I am moving to the Netherlands in 2 years.
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    HarryBalszak Male 40-49
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    December 16, 2007 at 6:39 am
    That, and pot is legal there. ;-)
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    Spirithound Male 18-29
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    December 16, 2007 at 11:54 am
    If you give a stupid kid an A now, he`s just gonna go to university and kill himself when he can`t hack it there
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    JazzyPiano Female 18-29
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    December 16, 2007 at 2:48 pm
    I`m scared for our future teachers. There will be so many rules along with the No Child Left Behind stuff that writing a curriculum will be difficult. Address the ones with low intellegence, everyone will get bored. Focus on the norm, the gifted will still be bored and the lesser will get frustrated. I think the principal was on to something when he wanted teachers to change the way they teach; however, don`t lower the standards, just be flexible with the way children learn.
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    TheGrag Male 13-17
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    December 16, 2007 at 6:19 pm
    mai egimakatun ez bade tow AKappah!
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    Scotchy Male 18-29
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    December 16, 2007 at 6:57 pm
    To be completely honest, I never smoked pot before, and never had any urge to, the real reason I am moving, is cause that is where my GF lives since her dad moved ~her parents divorced, 6 months of the year she lives here, the other 6 months she lives over there~ she finishes her school this year, and she will move back with me here, then we move over there after we get married, since we figure it will be easier since she is a citizen of both countries.
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    tourettes Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2007 at 5:44 am
    Come on people the answer is obvious! Minorities can`t learn as well as Whites and Asians can!

    It`s a freaking fact and nobody can BS me on it! The reason why my alma mater high school is still in the top 100 for at least a decade is because the school was 40% asian and 40% white.

    If that isn`t enough, think about all the inner city schools full of hispanics and blacks. Deep South schools full of post-slavery blacks. New York City and its mix. No learning, all failures.

    Carlos Mencia had a bit about how and why asians were sucessful; it is a little bit racial but the rest of it was becuase of their effort, and not even that, asian kid`s parents busting their butt to get at least a B average.

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    marchhare123 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2007 at 7:30 am
    our high school had to create an 8 and a half grade for students who couldn`t get past middle school but not ready for high school. They were in a trailer in the back.
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    roduku Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2007 at 9:44 am
    "Teachers at the school stand to receive $3,000 bonuses if their school improves."

    There`s the bottom line. Lower the standards, more students get passing grades, the school can post improved results and get more funding. The taxpayers lose because more money will be alloted for a school with lower standards. The students lose because their education level is lowered. Society as a whole loses eventually when the graduates enter the job market or end up on public relief becaust they can`t compete.

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    idiotkiller Male 13-17
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    December 19, 2007 at 8:37 pm
    Tourettes, I don`t think it`s racial as much as it is location. Blacks and hispanics tend to live in areas with more poverty and worse schooling. backs your statements up with facts as opposed to personal experiences and vague, general claims. And don`t cite Mencia, he`s an idiot.
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    jkahoon Female 18-29
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    December 20, 2007 at 2:15 pm
    Eh, Don`t blame him.

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