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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    December 13, 2007 at 10:38 pm
    Link: Know Where Your Puppy Comes From - Humane Society says: If you buy a dog from a pet store you are contributing to the most horrific kind of animal abuse.
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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:40 am
    hint: dont get the one with cat-sized bite marks on the neck. hes kinda slow
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    Skythe Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:42 am
    How exactly do you hide a puppy mill?

    "Whats with all the barking and yapping you ask officer? Why thats just the corn!"

    huh?

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    jebler Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:53 am
    win i read puppy mill i picture a old fashion wind mill grinding up puppies. then i laugh a little.
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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:57 am
    Purchasing puppies? You MONSTERS!
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    Anish Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:03 am
    Puppies? As long as you put their head in the water first, then you`re doing it right! Owait lobsters
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    Eichenkatze Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:27 am
    I knew about this a long while ago. Not all are exactly... Puppy mills.. but most stores like the ones you find in the Mall or such aren`t all that healthy (meaning their animals) After taking them out the animals usually end uo dying or getting sick which ends up costing you even more money. Thus why they`re so much more cheaper than buying from say a private breeder.
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    yo-i-am-luke Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:30 am
    I will just stick to cats if its all the same to you.
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    penguinfogel Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:41 am
    wait inbreeding is bad? Should we b=put down those people in Arkansas and Utah then?

    Okay I get why people dont like the idea of puppy mills, but they are subject to the same abuse regulations as any other breeder. Also most dog types are a product of inbreeding, and many purebreed dogs have health issues from it even if they arent from puppy mills, and private breeders raise puppys for money.

    theres only one solution kill them all. Or should we kill the Humans? meh doesnt matter either way.

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    penguinfogel Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:41 am
    man I typo alot

    *kills himself over typos*

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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 2:07 am
    ^saves me the trouble

    come try puttin me down lol

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    leslie9800 Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 2:45 am
    Just get a kitten from your crazy neighbourhood old lady with the 100 cats. lols.

    or just get one from a neighbour who just had puppies but can`t raise em all or something. I don`t kno y everytime i shop with a girl they have to go to the pet store. like wtf?

    any of you guys ever get that to?

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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 3:20 am
    how and why did this get here?
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 3:36 am
    owwww i love puppies
    this just made me sad not not bored!
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    niabaUK Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:16 am
    It really gets my goat when people talk about the HUMANe treatment of animals, guess what, they`re not HUMANS.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:19 am
    I understand the seriousness of this article, but is it just me, or do they have litle to no evidence that this store is connected with puppy mills? I kind of skimmed, but didn`t they just seem to state "That place gets puppies from horrible conditions! :O" Without anything to support it? Then those last few quotes from the humane society seemed a bit too... overdramatic.

    Either way, I got my kitten from a store that found him on the street weighing less than 2 pounds.

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    marchhare123 Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:26 am
    its such a double edged sword. These animals need homes, but you don`t want to support the people who run these mills. I have a prob with breeders as well. But it`s not surprising. Just like people who would rather get a surroget or InVetro rather than adopting a child who needs a family, people go to breeders rather than going to the pound and getting a dog or cat who needs a home.

    And nia, open up your heart.

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    videogamer Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:34 am
    MOST horrific kind of animal abuse? What about mink fur factories? I hear those are nasty.
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    marchhare123 Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:37 am
    its such a double edged sword. These animals need homes, but you don`t want to support the people who run these mills. I have a prob with breeders as well. But it`s not surprising. Just like people who would rather get a surroget or InVetro rather than adopting a child who needs a family, people go to breeders rather than going to the pound and getting a dog or cat who needs a home.

    And nia, open up your heart.

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    Vimto Male 40-49
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    December 14, 2007 at 7:11 am
    Go get a dog from a pound - you`re more likely to get an honest history and those guys really need a proper home.
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    Declan191919 Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 8:00 am
    My tAke on the matter is giving the Dogs a loving home with all their needs taken care for and letting live happy like feeding sasages and bacen makes up for this.
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    Pinkies Female 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 8:14 am
    this isent the most "horrific"
    Animal testing is.
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    B-Hazard Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 8:38 am
    I`m pretty sure the most horrific is being purchased by britney spears.
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    larajunky Female 40-49
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    December 14, 2007 at 10:17 am
    ^^^ here, here! LOL-ers.
    ON a more somber note, I feel sad for these poor little creatures.
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    Woot45 Female 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 10:46 am
    Stupid link as always, Fancylad, and hilarious as always, Akappy.

    Pinkies said:"this isent the most "horrific"
    Animal testing is"

    Im sure you`d rather have the products tested on humans? If they aren`t tested, who knows what will happen? 1 dog with a chemical burn vs. dead babies... I value a human life far, far more than an animals.

    I love how they say ITS HORRIFIC AND WRONG and they don`t have any evidence/pictures to back it up. Im sure its bad, but caring for each animal and giving them nice food and water and cleaning their cages every few days would give them negative income. Puppies in HORRIFICOHNOES conditions are better than no puppies.

    I agree with nia. Silly animals, HUMANe is for HUMANS. Now go eat your 34c a pound animal byproduct industrial waste dog food while I enjoy my food, which happens to be..thats right, DEAD ANIMALS! If we arent meant to harm animals, why does beef taste so damn good?

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    larajunky Female 40-49
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    December 14, 2007 at 10:55 am
    ^^ Ignorance. We aren`t meant to harm animals. Yes we are carnivorous but kill the animal with dignity for Christ sakes. AND you have completely lost site of the article. Its saying that people are breeding puppies in horrible conditions. They are money hungry and do not care if the animal is well cared for or healthy. They just want cash. They don`t care even one iota. Yes humans are more important but animals don`t deserve to be tortured for our survival. There are many alternatives to animals testing.
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    larajunky Female 40-49
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    December 14, 2007 at 10:56 am
    *hungry for cash
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 11:35 am
    yes lets not buy puppies lets let them sit and rot and die in their own fecal matter. THAT`LL SHOW THOSE BREEDERS!!!!!


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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 11:41 am
    and i love meat but i hate animal cruelty. i think that animals such as cows...that are being rasied for beef when they are killed should be done at least more HUMANE or in words simpletons can understand, less painful.

    maybe a lethal injection that will put the animal to sleep peacefully instead of hanging the living creature upside down while it is squirming and screaming for it`s life only to have it`s throat slit while it`s still alive.

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    zachsm Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:25 pm
    Woot45, don`t get the wrong impression, but i agree with your first two points; however, I think this problem is one of the most disgusting ones i`ve ever seen. You need pictures? At my local human society, they have pickup every few weeks. They stick all the animals they euthanize into big barrels. They leave the tops open because of the smell. It usually takes about 5 longbed trailers to haul them all out.

    I think we can agree that this is a waste, and buying from a store is feeding into this problem. People are buying them from a store and giving them away to human societies once they realize that they can`t support it (out of laziness or otherwise). Personally I don`t care if these businesses crash. It appears as though you do.

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    zachsm Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 12:26 pm
    im tired, add an e to humane
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    LoonLeader Female 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 1:10 pm
    I`ve heard about puppy mills before, but this link doesn`t really go into the "awful conditions" that the puppies are put through. If I didn`t know about puppy mills already, I`d sort of be like, "So what?" right now. I didn`t watch the video, though, since they don`t work on my computer, so I don`t know if that really makes a difference.
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    Moenkie Male 18-29
    312 posts
    December 14, 2007 at 1:42 pm
    Read Animal Liberation by Peter Singer sometime.

    Also, the two pet stores around here sell puppies/kittens that they have brought in from the SPCA.

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    eleutherarch Female 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 2:02 pm
    Yes, this is sad and all...but why is this here?
    It doesn`t cure my boredom at all, it just makes me go,"Oh, poor doggies...but my boredom ain`t cured"
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    someone? Male 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 2:09 pm
    peta wrote this imo.
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 2:54 pm
    hmm.... i dont buy my dogs, my mother is a vatrenarian, and we sometimes keep animals that actuale where suppose to be put to sleep, i got 4 deguses (rodents) last month...and im happy like this, buying animals in a pat store is just not right :S
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    WhatInThe42o Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 3:56 pm
    I`ve preached a long time about the importance of adopting dogs from shelters. It`s nice to see some sort of movement, no matter how small or eventually fruitless. If one person who sees that interview never buys a dog, rather adopts one, I`m happy. If its more than one, I`m even happier.
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    WhatInThe42o Male 30-39
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    December 14, 2007 at 4:07 pm
    Oh, and on another note, the word `humane.` People love to quibble about this word. "It shouldn`t be HUMANe, they`re (usually spelled their) not HUMANs!" That`s just silly. If the word was supposed to mean `treat things like humans,` it would have died out about 2 and a half minutes after its first use, following an uncomfortable silence and some throat clearing. No, rather it means to treat something as if *you were a human.* It means we rise above base, animal instincts, and treat that animal, be it human or otherwise, with respect, honor, and decency. Not necessarily because it deserves those things, but because *you are capable of it.* Only humans are capable of exhibiting humane behavior. It is not a method of treatment, it is a quality of the one doing the treating.

    That`s my take on it. I guess you can start flaming now.

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    gnctrkcll Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 4:21 pm
    for the ignorant people who say "there are no pics to back "horrific tests on animals" and "fur isn`t nasty"
    take a look why dont you:
    www.animalexperimentspictures.com/photo_section.php?pageNum_images=1&sid=1&totalRows_images=21

    www.strasbourgcurieux.com/fourrure

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    ChestyLaRoo Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 4:33 pm
    I agree with WhatInThe42o...
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 4:47 pm
    I don`t know, Woot. Dead babies > chemical burn ANY DAY.

    Our pet stores actually get their puppies from the humane societies in the local area. *shrug*

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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
    674 posts
    December 14, 2007 at 4:50 pm
    *cough*

    I also think there should be harsher treatment against those who abuse animals. Starve an animal, and the state will starve you. Fight an animal to death, have someone fight YOU to death.

    It`s just.

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    gnctrkcll Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 5:05 pm
    JaundiceCake, I absolutely agree with you. I can`t believe the things people can get away with..
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 5:07 pm
    Sadness...
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    fluffyhoob Female 18-29
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:10 pm
    its people who think `awww but i can give it a home so it wont stay in a pet shop` that are the problem. ive done it myself (not with dogs though, the UK doesnt really sell them in shops over here)

    if you are PAYING for a dog or kitten or ANY animal from a pet store...you are supporting these kinds of breeding practises. in the UK we have quite strict animal laws, but the likes of big chain pet stores do buy their livestock from places like rodent farms and such, which ive seen pics of recently and im disgusted by. so before you `rescue` an animal from a pet shop, think about the 100s that will replace the one you buy...supply and demand my friends!

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    Woot45 Female 13-17
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    December 14, 2007 at 6:12 pm
    Now that I actually see evidence, I revise some things I said. My first impression was crackpot diehard vegans who think beef is the antichrist.
    There can most certainly be some improvement in they way they get puppies.

    @Jaundicecake: I`ll assume you`re a vegan from what you said. Ever eaten wheat? You contributed to killing tens of thousands of animals that live in wheat feilds. I sentence you to be submerged in pesticides and go through a mechanical reaper.

    It`s just.


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    twizzler01 Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 6:11 am
    Soo Adopting puppies who had a bad "Childhood" is bad?

    So then savingthem is bad too.
    And taking them into a home with a family is just flat out wrong after they were raised in bad conditions.
    No
    You take them in and you give them a good rest of their lives because the early part of their lives sucked.

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    niabaUK Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 6:17 am
    Sorry to be nit-picky WhatInThe42o but when you `corrected` my grammar I was right to begin with. They`re is short for they are. "they are not humans". `their` is possessive.
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    beckpratt Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:47 pm
    Okay... Two rants for me on this.. First, animal testing is not just putting things on animals to see chemical burns. They INJECT stuff right into the animals and see what kind of reaction happens. Torture, in my opinion. Also, I work in a pet store and we buy our pets from people in the community, not puppy mills. If we find out that we have bought from a puppy mill, we stop business with them. This results in us selling a lot of mixed breed dogs, and often times we have no puppies at all since we depend on people in the community to contact us for puppies. We take the dogs and other animals that would otherwise go to shelters.
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    Rufifi Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 2:41 pm
    <img src="http://www.animalexperimentspictures.com/images/thumbnails/B64_420x420.jpg" alt=" A Vivisection Picture - a healthy defenceless dog is turned into bloody pieces. - Image courtesy of AnimalExperimentsPictures.com">
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    Rufifi Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 2:41 pm
    taht didn`t came up right...
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 3:26 pm
    ^lol it`s okay we understand
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    icelover Female 13-17
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    December 15, 2007 at 4:46 pm
    4 out of my five pets are humane dogs and cats.. and theyre sooo sweet..
    my other dogg is kinda evil and we actually bought her!

    so my whole thought on this is that if u rescue a pet.. they will love u more cuz they no u saved the life!!!!

    RESUE AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!
    <3

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    Snarkypants Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 6:49 pm
    twizzler, the bad part isn`t that you`re adopting them. It`s that you`re giving money to the people who are responsible for their bad "puppyhood". As long as they can make money off of their mills, they will keep running these mills and more pups will suffer as a result. Shelter puppies need homes just as much, and you`ll be giving money to people who want to help the animals rather than hurt them.
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    glocktypus Female 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 7:56 pm
    so what do we do with all those puppies if we are not allowed to buy them, let them die...and why do vegans eat meat flavored items if they don`t think we are made to eat meat?
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    truthordare Female 13-17
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    December 19, 2007 at 8:26 am
    I agree with glocktypus. If there are puppies that are being harme, maybe even tortured, are we simply supposed to turn out backs? Ignore it all? I agree that something must be done about these mills, but are we really supposed to let those who suffer suffer even more?
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    mistressaya Female 18-29
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    December 20, 2007 at 12:03 am
    Since when has the HSUS actually cared about stuff like this? I thought they`d just take Peta`s approach of setting all the dogs from the puppy mills and pet stores free to fend for themselves.

    Last I heard, they don`t even give any of the money donated to them to any actually humane societies either.

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