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61 Responses to Girls Rather Be Sexy Than Smart?

  1. Profile photo of Berserk505
    Berserk505 Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:24 am
    I like my women like I like my coffee...
    hot
    dark
    bold
    strong
  2. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:25 am
    Well, men are easily manipulated through sex, and ugly women can`t do that very well. So...

    ...

    is this not true?

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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:26 am
    i was gonna wait til kappy posted `erection` to make child molester jokes, but noone seems to want to touch this
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    PianoMan21 Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:32 am
    Can`t they be sexy AND smart? That`d be good!

    Self image begins with the image. If you have a brain to match, then "the world is yours," as they say.

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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:35 am
    I never said anything about being a child-molester. Tina is over 18, right? RIGHT!?
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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:48 am
    Yes, PianoMan21, women can be both sexy and smart. But they`re being told that sexy is preferable, and that`s wrong.

    "men are easily manipulated through sex, and ugly women can`t do that very well. So...
    ..."
    AKappy, please explain the point of this statement, since it seems unrelated to the article.

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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:50 am
    "Michele Elliott, director of the children`s charity Kidscape... has launched a campaign against the toy makers responsible for items including a junior pole-dancing kit..."

    A "junior pole-dancing" kit? Whoever came up with THAT gem needs to die in a fire, and soon.

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    trinah1 Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:55 am
    I prefer an intelligent man to a good looking one. Because those guys are more fun to talk to.
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:56 am
    I think (and I`m guessing AKappy is thinking along the same lines) is that since in many cases today still, men are still the one holding power and wealth, etc.

    If women want to be empowered with those things the easiest way to do it is by seducing the men with power, as opposed to working hard and getting the power themselves.

    It`s a shortcut.

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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 1:15 am
    "AKappy, please explain the point of this statement, since it seems unrelated to the article."

    My statement was entirely relevant. This article talks about the belief that female empowerment comes through being sexy. Attractive women can easily manipulate most men through sexual means, and ugly ones would have a difficult time doing so. Wouldn`t that make this belief correct? Sexual manipulation = power. It`s science.

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    Flakk Male 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 1:26 am
    Thanks to the invention of kinetic combustion drives, we can now move thousands of miles within hours of hearing "you knocked me up", so if your man is in it for the looks alone....
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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 1:29 am
    kappys got a good point

    maybe its from going to a tech (read mens) school, but i get tired of talking to smart fugly girls everyday, and they get treated as objects even when they are in short supply.
    beauty (hawtness) is the only thing that gives them an advantage

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    R_U_Kidding Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 1:44 am
    Ah, I see what you mean now. The first time, you worded it badly; as if you`d only typed half a thought.
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    Lawviz Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 2:09 am
    I`m sure theres some 400 lb. female with IQ above 120...
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    Corfi Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 2:37 am
    You know what gives you more power than seducing a rich man? Being smart enough to make yourself rich.

    That way, you won`t have to live in bondage for a little financial freedom. And you won`t find yourself out on the street once your tits start to sag.

    And most of these girls aren`t seducing rich men. They`re drating around with teenage boys and guys in their twenties who think they`re the bomb because their girlfriend has such low self esteem that she`ll do anything.

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    dianne Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 2:45 am
    Heh. I feel rather lucky most of the time. Most people tell me I`m adorable <3 and I know my IQ is well above most.

    I would rather be smart though, if I had to pick.

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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 2:54 am
    too many words to read XD I take being sexy.
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    Razamire Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:04 am
    see back in the day women wanted to be smart,burning bra`s and all.Now it`s about the "hotness".Seriously,it`s not just the cute or attractiveness,the article was showing that these days it`s all about being sexy.You can`t just be smart and cute,you HAVE to be sexy.That`s the message girls get.It`s not only about the men,they get away with whatever thought or deed they want.It`s more about what a little girl singing the thong song thinks about what she should be when she grows up,regardless how she looks,she knows she HAS to be hot,sexy,slutty to get attention,because just being herself itsn`t enough.If you feel good about yourself,good for you.But seriously I think some things are so disturbing.I walk to down a street and I see nearly naked women posters at the busstop.I put on the tv and I see naked women..at 6pm! not late at night.Songs are always showing "sexiness" No one looks like they`re singing for fun no more,it`s all too serious,so sexified.God forbid if y
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    robbery525 Male 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:04 am
    i didnt feel like reading it. u guys summed it up lol
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    Razamire Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:07 am
    *you`re not "hot".
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    elliannah Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 4:30 am
    Well, obviously something is screwy in my mind- I`d rather be smart.
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 5:32 am
    maybe im just shallow but i`d rather be sexy than intelligent.

    good thing i`m both :-) i must be lucky

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    AnneBonney Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 6:05 am
    Its a distraction tactic. When we`re preoccupied with diets and reaching that all-holy `one-size-less`, we`re too busy and too distracted to take over the world.

    I can`t believe they call stuff like this `new` research. The damage of hypersexualization has been taking its toll on the female population for years. The sense of obligation is now overwhelming. It`s no longer `I choose to look nice`, it has become `I have to look nice.` It`s a bit of a double edged sword too...because who takes pretty women seriously? So to be taken seriously you need to be sexy, but being sexy automatically eliminates any intellectual validity you might have had. That`s a bit of a mess right there.

    Girls are `dieting` as young as 9.

    The worst part is, we`re active participants in our own oppression. We HAVE a choice. We CAN say no. And we should; loudly and frequently.

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    tundralost Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 7:15 am
    Some of you guys are missing the meaning of empowerment. Empowerment has nothing to do with having power over others, or manipulating them - it`s the ability to create the future you want for yourself without being dependant on others, or bound by arbitrary barriers. Women who use sex to get ahead are not empowered - they`re taking advantage of some fleeting objectification - looks invariably fade, people tire of beauty. Would you guys consider yourselves empowered if you depended solely on others` estimation of your "looks"? No.

    They`re not being appreciated or respected for themselves - only for what they`re body looks like.

    Intelligence and emotional IQ are obviously much more important for empowerment.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 7:29 am
    ^ I`d have to agree with that, and so would many other people, but most of society doesnt so your ideas are being wasted. How unfortunate.

    I`d say this is a failing attribute of our society, not necessarily a crippling one but an embarrassment all the same.

    Frankly when it comes down to it, I couldn`t care less how women thought of themselves, unless I was married of course but thats another story...

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    anGiE_O_o Female 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 7:29 am
    it depends on what kind of girl he`s looking for. if he just wants one to "play with" then she`d better be sexy but if he wants to get old with her...what else can you do when you`re old? you don`t look good any more so you talk to each other.

    but if you`re sexy and smart you`re man has a lot more, when she`s young she`s sexy and when she`s old and not hot any more he can talk to her

    i don`t know why i just ...

    never mind
    don`t listen to me

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    Bekll Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 7:59 am
    bs. I always value intelligence over beauty - both of which I have.
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    phoenix6 Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 8:18 am
    ^ Yeah I wanted to say that & since the way i`d`ve said it wouldn`t be as nicely put, I`ll simply agree with u...
  29. Profile photo of tundralost
    tundralost Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 8:35 am
    yep, I find intelligence so much sexier *in the long run* than pure looks.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 10:02 am
    What kind of whores were they getting this information from? Last time a guy called me a slut he lost all ability to reproduce.

    Also, any parent who goes out and buys their kid a junior pole dancing kit deserves whatever amount of babies and their costs the little hoe gets pregnant with.

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    Shortone0726 Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 10:33 am
    This is a stupid article..can`t you be sexy and smart??? I think they interviewed a bunch of whores or prostitutes to get this article
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    arkansas Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 12:06 pm
    a lot of people have put a lot of time into this thread, so im not going to come onto here and tell anyone there wrong, but several people discount the power that "sexy" has over men, and how anyone with determination and drive can market themselves and then do whatever they want.
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    Anyalazagna Female 18-29
    254 posts
    December 10, 2007 at 1:49 pm
    Yes, being sexy does give a woman an immense amount of power, but why does being sexy have to be the only power a woman can hold?

    You can be smart and sexy, but women should be able to use their abilities and skills to earn them places of power, not their looks.

    The thing that I`m seeing a lot of males saying is that sexiness equals power. That may be true, a sexy woman can manipulate men, but why? A sexy man can`t manipulate a woman (most of the time) so why does a man fall under the power of a sexy woman?

    I would rather earn my place of power through my capabilities, not by latching onto the man in that spot and claiming his power as my own. That, I find disgusting.

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:07 pm
    I don`t find it nearly as disconcerting that girls should find physical attractiveness more desirable over intelligence. What I worry about are the values men place on one over the other. Women only have that "power" because men resign it to them. Such pitiful people all around.
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    opj Female 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:28 pm
    Sexiness is not a priority to me, so I`d rather be smart. However, I`d rather be *ahem* "attractively challenged" (i refuse to use the word ugly), intellectually challenged and happy than be smart, attractive, and unhappy
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    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm
    the thing is, imo, women are competitive in nature. they always try to outdo each other and abhor those who look better than them. as long as someone has natural beauty there will always be those without it trying to compete.
    if you would like to debate please say so
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    nicholelibra Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 4:29 pm
    R_U_Kidding

    "Michele Elliott, director of the children`s charity Kidscape... has launched a campaign against the toy makers responsible for items including a junior pole-dancing kit..."

    A "junior pole-dancing" kit? Whoever came up with THAT gem needs to die in a fire, and soon.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I`ll bring the matches as long as someone else foots the cash for a gallon of gas.

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    libi2 Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 4:34 pm
    I just need to mention this.. Sexy is NOT the opposite of ugly, meaning simply that it isn`t based off of looks.
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    ImNoGod Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 4:37 pm
    And who gives a fu*k? Not I.
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    necros Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 5:10 pm
    "Amelia Hill, social affairs correspondent, ugly"
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    Starshine24 Female 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 5:12 pm
    nichole, i`ll get the gas. Whoever came up with that idea needs to die, and die SLOWLY and PAINFULLY.
    When we graduated 8th grade, I was the only one who had never had a date. Ever. And I was one of the top students. I`m am also under 5 feet and brunette.
    YOU tell ME what happened.
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    kooshi_govno Male 70 & Over
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    December 10, 2007 at 5:28 pm
    i couldve told you that
  43. Profile photo of tundralost
    tundralost Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 5:36 pm
    Arkansas - using sex as a means of power is not real power, because it depends on other people, and as soon as whoever you`re trying to impress tires of you, or your looks fade, so does your power. Sexiness is fleeting, depends entirely on other people, and most women who use sex to "get ahead" are looked down upon by society anyway. This is clearly not power...why don`t you understand?
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    Mweebles Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 6:12 pm
    I`d rather be smarter. It would make it a helluva lot easier to get through my finals.
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    Qhoss Male 13-17
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    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm
    If Pam Anderson had a bigger brain and smaller boobs...
    No, I can`t even imagine.
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    meander Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 6:46 pm
    I`m not sure what`s being discussed was really the point of that article, although it is all valid discussion, obviously. I think what they`re talking about is not whether or not women confuse sexiness with empowerment, but how young girls are getting the idea that sexiness equates to "girl power". Like the little girls you see in malls wearing "Flirt" or "Jail Bait" sparkly t-shirts when they don`t even have breasts yet to pop them out.. and the elementary school girls singing the lyrics to songs that play in 21 and over clubs... you know?

    It`s not just the point of females thinking sexuality is the key to attention and popularity, but that it`s happening even younger. Stuff like middle schoolers being sexually active in school bathrooms and crap... ;...; ew.

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    meander Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 6:50 pm
    Oh, oh... And I think I know that pole. It`s the Peek-a-Boo dance pole kit and although it wasn`t intended for kids, allegedly it was frequently displayed in the kids` toys aisles and got flamed not only for being marketed for children, but for being a scary flimsy piece of crap. Teens and adults purchased it and it`s not intended to be hung from and a lot of people were getting hurt.

    Between injuries and tween appeal, I wonder how that company is still in business. >.>

    http://www.pointshop.com/Mall/Catalog/Pr...

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    Drillprp Male 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 7:44 pm
    I`m finding something troubling about all of this. Humanity is failing rational thought. I wander the halls of my highschool and see my peers always talking about sex, how hot that guy or girl was, trying to "get with someone" but what the hell man. Education is far more important than any kind of sex. Don`t even give me the argument of "we need to reproduce" freaking duh. Our society is too focused on vanity and intelligence is at a premium.
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    Joey11y Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 8:12 pm
    Hmm well, I think intelligence gets you through the door, but its your sexuality that give you an edge over the competition. :)
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    Pikachu42 Female 18-29
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    December 10, 2007 at 9:58 pm
    a. i don`t know who these women are, but they are apparently idiots. b. smart chicks are sexy. cuz i know i`m a hot dork. c. interview real women, not wanna be blow up dolls.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
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    December 10, 2007 at 11:37 pm
    the struggle continues.
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    cookii Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2007 at 12:33 pm
    i know a guy (not gay) who says he prefers hanging out with girls bacuuase all guys talk about is sex, i was like no way not all the time, and he says, yes, it`s all they talk about. this might affect your ability to get a good job, however,

    http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=691&SiteId=cbmsn4691&sc_extcmp=JS_691_advice&catid=wi

    turns out employers do want professionalism

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    carissakayb Female 13-17
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    December 11, 2007 at 12:59 pm
    I don`t even find it that bad to manipulate people through my sexuality in order to gain power. Those who have shortcuts use them....
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    carissakayb Female 13-17
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    December 11, 2007 at 1:00 pm
    and I happen to be a VERY intelligent woman.
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    bluntbro Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2007 at 1:49 pm
    missing the point again... when girls are told that intelligence isn`t `cool` or important in the long run, not only do we have issues of widespread STD`s and teenage pregnancies, but the focus will be on sexuality throughout their school years, not learning. These girls are choosing NOT to be as well educated as they have the right to be. where does that put us in a decade or two?
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    PayN8tention Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2007 at 4:12 pm
    Mean Girls isn`t that great of an example of negative media. The whole point of the movie was AGAINST being a slutty whore. I know they had slores in there, but the biggest hoe bag ended up getting hit by a bus. Moral? Don`t be a hoe, or Lindsay Lohan will talk you right in front of a bus.
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    Drillprp Male 18-29
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    December 11, 2007 at 4:34 pm
    To defend yourself by saying you ARE "intelligent", please first consider that intelligence is relative, and subjective. Second consider that the most intelligent of us are those are know we know nothing, and will never know anything. I just thought I would interject this with how much "intelligent" and "smart" is being thrown around in this thread. Not like anyone will take this comment seriously.
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    muckseen Female 18-29
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    December 11, 2007 at 4:55 pm
    I`m smart and kinda cute. I don`t feel obliged to do anything more. I`d rather be remembered as a clever girl than a pretty one
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    TheWyvern Female 18-29
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    December 12, 2007 at 12:33 am
    i know my comment is late but whatever..
    arkansas,
    i go to a tech school too (and yes it is about 80% males) but you`re saying you`re sick of talking to ugly girls? THere are a number of girls that are pretty (im not saying the ones that still wear scrunchies don`t exist) but really you dont honestly think all the guys are attractive? Yes what about the guys that walk around with pccket watches, shower once a weeks because they`re too busy perfecting all the programming languages ever to be invented? (not that im dissing programmers at all). Have you ever thought that perhaps its the girls getting bored of talking to those types of guys?...and if you`re tired of talking to those "ugly" girls..are you that desperate to talk to them if you dont want to?
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    R_Lord Male 18-29
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    December 15, 2007 at 1:56 am
    Marketing may be contributing to the ideal that "sexy is better" or it may just be as simple as being a confidence issue. After all, isn`t self-confidence (a byproduct of vanity) the reason most of us are inspired to do what we do? For example, a woman who is confident with their outward appearance tends to be more confident with what they do for an occupation. Though I do have to admit, “looks” seem to matter more with women than they do with heterosexual men.
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    alice_x Female 18-29
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    January 8, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    no matter what women say, it is true that men have more power than us, and men think with their dicks, therefore, if your sexy, you will be more sucessful because your eye candy for them. And its because alot of women these days like the attention, and wear alot less clothing in the workplace, and everywhere else.
    at least im honest, and not in denial lol
    men still have wayy more power than women. but that will one day change ;)

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