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    bob2083 Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 12:59 am
    Link: Tasered for Not Signing Speeding Ticket - Utah Highway Patrol Tasers man in front of pregnant wife and baby over an alleged speeding ticket.
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    xboxman Male 13-17
    381 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 2:19 am
    Yes.
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    Vanilla_Sky Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:26 am
    Stupid speeder... Rule NO#1 Do what cop says....

    RESPECT MY AUTHORATAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

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    Squeepy999 Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:30 am
    At the end, I`m pretty sure that cop was lying when he said he warned him before tasering him... I looked back and he never warned that guy...pretty much just went straight to the tasering part...
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:35 am
    Squeep:
    When you`re pointing a taser at a guy, and giving a command, that`s a warning to all but the seriously seriously dumb that you`re going to get tasered if you don`t follow the command.

    "I am pointing this at you so that should you not follow the command I am giving while pointing this at you, I will fire it"
    "Oh poo I thought you were just holding it at me".

    No.

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    TheBLB Male 18-29
    239 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 2:43 am
    I`ve seen someone write this on here before:

    "America, your freedom is slipping away."

    You guys have terrible, terrible cops.

    This guy will probably be given leave with pay. Or a slap on the wrist.

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    toneman Male 30-39
    527 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 2:46 am
    That really is too bad. It`s jackasses like this the make many Americans distrust police officers. Believe it or not, more really do want to do good things...not to play the Devil`s advocate. I`d really like to know what came of this.

    By the way, the speeding ticket was not `alleged.` The matter of whether he was actually speeding was alleged. The ticket was more than real.

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    toneman Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:47 am
    Oh yeah...one more thing...I`ve always heard those Mormons were bad asses!

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    toneman Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:48 am
    Well, I`m not sure how this will turn out but Mr. Massey is certainly deserving of an Oscar as he plays up his truama and distress! I would do the same thing! Good on him!!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/22/national/main3534130.shtml

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    krusty2514 Male 70 & Over
    189 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 4:23 am
    that cops ass is going to be sued into oblivion
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    Itsdude56 Male 13-17
    889 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 5:16 am
    so...after all the taser videos have been released its ok for police to just pull out a taser gun?
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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 7:04 am
    I`m sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn`t even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please.
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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:09 am
    ^^^ The only problem with that is... If the person is armed, then they wouldn`t pull out a taser, they would pull out a gun.

    From the very beginning, the driver was "asking for it". Why argue with the officer? Oh yeah, because he`s an idiot.

    Also, the officer did not do a good job of explaining what was going on. "Going a little fast, huh" and "Sir, I monitored you driving 55 (or whatever) in a 40 mph zone" is not the same thing. The second tells the guy excatly why he`s being stopped.

    I don`t know about Utah, but where I live, people don`t have to legally sign a speeding ticket. Now, if it was Reckless Driving, yes, they do, but not speeding. If he could take the guy to jail over not signing the ticket, he should have attempted to explain that before getting him out of the car. (Not that the driver would have listened)

    Lastly, the officer was WAY to quick on pulling the taser. "Johnny Two-Tokes" should know that the taser was designed t

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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:11 am
    ...another case of the missing text!

    Anyway, the taser was designed to prevent physical combat.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:15 am
    P.s. I prefer the title "Man tasered after speeding with pregnant wife and child in car". :P

    Incidentally Quedas, most cops in the states are TASERED as part of their training so they know/understand what it feels like.

    You can argue your case in traffic court, there`s no reason to be a bitch to the traffic cop and give him a hard time. Incidentally, it`s not like most people, or the police dept, or even he himself felt he was doing anything wrong. It`s his own videotape and he knows it`s running.

    It`s not unreasonable force if there`s no less force he could use, and quite frankly at that stage he had a choice of becoming physical or tasering the guy. Tasering is the more humane of the two.

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    kooshi_govno Male 70 & Over
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:19 am
    PIG
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    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 8:33 am
    dratING PIG !!

    I HOPE SOMEBODY SHOOTS HIM!!

    THIS IS WHY ALL COPS SHOULD DIE !!

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 8:34 am
    Incidentally, why are we on our 9th tasering video here on IAB? Doesn`t this get pretty old pretty fast?
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    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 8:35 am
    The man was exercising his rights to not sign a paper, and the police officer assaulted him and falsely arrested him.

    If I were the guy, I would sue the state for $100 million.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 8:56 am
    You sign the paper so you don`t have to be arrested.
    He didn`t sign, he got VALIDLY arrested.

    Source 1:
    The traffic ticket contains an actual notice to you of a pending court date at which you must appear. By signing the ticket, you are providing an acknowledgment of receipt of the "notice to appear." Since the officer is charging you with a violation of law, he could take you into custody.... It is better to sign the traffic ticket and go about your business pending the court date. By signing the traffic ticket, you remain free and retain the right to show up at the hearing to contest the issuance of the citation or summons.

    A person is free to refuse to sign the traffic ticket; however, the police officer is free to place him/her under arrest and take him/her into custody.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 9:02 am
    Incidentally source 2:
    What if the officer was rude?

    If the officer had to follow you for a quarter-mile or more until you noticed him in your rearview mirror, he may be unhappy. You were guilty of "contempt of cop," which happens when you don`t do whatever it is an officer wants you to do. Regardless, it is not a good idea for you to act in a similar manner.

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    wakeofshadow Female 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 9:03 am
    the tape was reviewed after "after video of the incident was posted on YouTube,". well nice to know i t has to b exposed to the public.

    i think the guy being tasered was not to unreasonable. he should stayed out of the car and not move around. but the cop didn`t warn him or read him his rights.the whole thing could be dropped now.

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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 9:17 am
    I`m not talking about whether or not all these guys being tasered deserve it or not. I don`t give a s*hit. More humane than getting physical?! Are you f*ucki*ng kidding me?! You mean there was no way he could at least try to pin his arms on his back and cuff him? The problem with tasers is that because it`s less brutal than a gun these id*iots think its ok to just use them at will. Why? Because it doesn`t kill? Guess what, it actually does sometimes. Placing someone under arrest does not have to always be accompanied by brutal violence. Because that`s what it is, don`t try and kid yourselves. I find it hard to believe that all these guys are just huge drama queens. As oposed to all the others taking their taserings in stride. But do you know what scares me the most? It`s that my counter-point is being given by people actually capable of a cognitive process. I would be much less frightened it my opponents where just the number one fans of Larry The Cable Guy...
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    Invalok Male 18-29
    724 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 10:07 am
    Meh, lets just get to the point were cops start shooting people with real bullets over minor inconveniences, so that someone can actually "DO" something about the drating situation.
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    summerfly Female 18-29
    157 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 10:20 am
    Wow they really need to take those things away. Cops seem to be going on some sort of tasing spree(or it`s just getting a lot more publicity..One of the two)
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    piratepigz12 Female 13-17
    352 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 10:28 am
    wow, I read that wrong. I thought he tasered a pregnant wife.
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    Hansbo Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 10:48 am
    Not that I approve of police brutality, but he WAS holding his hand in his pocket while turning away from the cop.
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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 10:51 am
    "Not that I approve of police brutality, but he WAS holding his hand in his pocket while turning away from the cop" - C`mon, that was SO not the reason why they tasered him. And please, don`t give any more arguments to the "let`s they fry anyone who even looks at me the wrong way" crowd...
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    beniscool1 Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 10:57 am
    photoshopped
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    samiam2281 Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 11:09 am
    I just got out an old speeding ticket of mine and it does say that if I don`t sign it that I will be placed under arrest. But the thing is there are 4 options on it for me to sign for, one agreeing that I sped and that I will pay the fine, one agreeing that I sped, but the cop is letting me go with a warning, one for court appearance and one for traffic arraignment. I`d like to know if the cop even tried to give that option for fighting it in court. Then the cop has him getting out of the car, which I`m sure the driver thinks is him agreeing to "go look back for the first 40 MPH sign" and the guy gets out of the car thinking that`s what he`s going to do and the cop puts him under arrest. That`s kind of crap to me. Sure the guy argued and I sure wouldn`t have, but I think there`s a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things and I think that this is the WRONG way on the cops part. I really hope the cop gets in trouble for this.
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    samiam2281 Female 18-29
    105 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 11:10 am
    And trust me, I`m very far from a cop-hating person. I think they`re great people for doing what they do to help others and I have called for help many many times. Even when I was pulled over I agree that he was right and I was very wrong, but they`re humans too and this one is wrong.
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    patticakes Female 18-29
    463 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 12:05 pm
    There`s no 2 ways about it: Just stop thinking, don`t question anything, and do what the cop says. It`s the only way to stay out of trouble.
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    PayN8tention Male 18-29
    907 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 1:50 pm
    NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
    What kind of jackass uses his pregnant wife as an attempt to avoid the law? Apparently the kind of guy tasered in this video.
    If a cop tells you to stop and turn around, LISTEN.

    This actually reminds me of a post I made earlier...every word of it can be used in this video as well.

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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 2:00 pm
    If he was placed under arrest he should have been placed in handcuffs. If he was *resisting* arrest he should have been tased. That guy was not resisting. They both drated up by escalating a speeding ticket to an altercation. The situation is severely compounded by the presence of a pregnant wife having a fit and the fact that it took place in Utah, drating Utards.

    Ohh and F.U.C.K. CENSORSHIP while I`m at it.

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    GanjaMan Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:01 pm
    Dumb ass cop. He didn`t read the miranda rights so this case can be dropped now.
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    narlycharlie Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:06 pm
    I love America.
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    jdelaney Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 2:21 pm
    I think that even though the man who was being pulled over was rude to the police officer, it was not enough for him to be tasered. If he had gotten physically resistant to the point where the officer could not physically field his body, then yes, he should be tasered.

    Tasering it not necessary humane at all. It can be quite lethal. What if the man had something such as a pacemaker? Or if the taser had caused a heart attack or seizure? If the man had attacked him or begun resisting than I can see how this would be legitimate, but I did not see him begin any physcial altercation begin. Being pissy with someone is not a good enough reason to taser someone. And because he tasered and attempted arrest without a reading of the man`s rights the case could be well be dropped and the man allowed to sue the department.

    One stupid cop injures an entire squadron because of his own idiocy.

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    krabkat Female 18-29
    1263 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 2:32 pm
    This cop is an overzealous control freak who revels in his authority. When the guy said he didn`t want to sign the ticket until he`d looked for the 40mph sign, the cop told him to get out of the vehicle and go with him. The guy did EXACTLY what the cop said to do...so the next thing he gets is a taser pulled on him? No wonder he thought the cop was nuts! I would`ve too. And, hello, since when in the USA are we not allowed to ask questions of a cop or question their decision PEACEFULLY?? Whoever said that we are losing our freedom and civil liberties is right. The day an American citizen is not allowed to ask an officer of the law what they are being arrested for or to explain a speeding ticket to them without being tasered is the day I`ll know this country is in big trouble...oh wait...guess it`s too late. This guy NEVER threatened the cop in any way - the whole thing was about perceived power and authority and the copy had the upper hand - the taser. Sad.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 3:23 pm
    "Dumb ass cop. He didn`t read the miranda rights so this case can be dropped now."

    WRONG. Flat out wrong.

    Source:
    "However, police are only required to warn an individual whom they intend to subject to custodial interrogation at the police station, in a police vehicle or when detained. Arrests can occur without questioning and without the Miranda warning"

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    2otto2 Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:33 pm
    Oh yes. American cops are all 5hitholes. All without exception. Fucc them whereever you can.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:33 pm
    Anything else anyone wants to spout without the 45 seconds of research it takes to verify something like that?

    Seriously, don`t give people legal advice when you don`t know what you`re on about.

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    2otto2 Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:35 pm
    ah, sorry, forgot: whole country is a cesspool.
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    jesusrockss Female 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:40 pm
    its against the law to not read your rights.

    All he was doing was asking and by law the officer has to respond how fast he was going...

    AND...he didn`t warn him before he was about to taser him.

    They get their pay from us, they should respect us way more than that. They are public servants.

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    TJAW Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:42 pm
    When i 1st read the title i thought it said "Utah Highway Patrol man tasers pregnant wife and baby.." i was like WTF..
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    truckintim87 Male 50-59
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:50 pm
    dratin` non-nice individual cop!!!
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    truckintim87 Male 50-59
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:52 pm
    Fu*kin` A**hole cop needs his a** kicked!!
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    Chelsea23 Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 3:52 pm
    that cop was a douche. & he pulled him over like right after he passed the speed limit sign. If I was that lady; I would have faked labor pains or something lol
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    FadeToBlack5 Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:01 pm
    1. Cop was just being a jerk, especially pulling em over right after passing the sign
    2. Guy was kinda an idiot, when dealing with the cops, seriously, its best not to try and screw with them
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:06 pm
    "its against the law to not read your rights."

    See my previous comment. It`s not.

    I even linked to the paragraph so you wouldn`t have to read the article.

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    lieunym Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:13 pm
    "When i 1st read the title i thought it said "Utah Highway Patrol man tasers pregnant wife and baby.." i was like WTF.."

    That would suck. Lol.

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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:18 pm
    Follow the officers orders. Both of them were unruley and disrespectful to the cop. The dumbass 19 year old kid (thats what he looks like), was like "what am I under arrest for". You are under arrest for speeding and not signing the damn ticket.

    When the cop tells you to put your hands on the car or gives you a reasonable command, dont turn your back on the officer and walk away. If he`s holding a damn tazer at you, you stop and do as he asks.

    He only has the tazer for his safety. There are traffic stops that go like this and end up in murder.

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    Bajatar Female 40-49
    345 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 4:20 pm
    "There`s no 2 ways about it: Just stop thinking, don`t question anything, and do what the cop says. It`s the only way to stay out of trouble."

    Are you aware that cops are allowed to lie to you and tell you all kinds of things in order to get you to confess? Always telling what the cop says can get you into more trouble than you were if you`d just shut up.

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:39 pm
    ^^ Yeah, I`d say that the real rule of dealing with cops is shut up, don`t argue, and have a lawyer deal with everything.
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    swtdreams285 Female 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:46 pm
    OMG, what a mess.
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    kodkilla Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 4:53 pm
    "Fear, panic - it`s the scariest moment of my life," he said. "I get tasered, and I hit the ground, and I really, to be honest with you, thought that my life was ending. It`s the most horrific thing that`s ever happened to me."

    Hmmm... That guy is being very melodramatic about the situation. What a puss if that really was the scariest thing in his life! Ah well... The guy was a dick and the cop was a little to fast on the draw, but that`s just me. Oh and for those of you who say how horrible it is for the cop to teaser an "unarmed man" should become a cop. You see how many people are "unarmed" when you arrest them. How was the cop suppose to know he was unarmed or getting his gun or whatever? Being a cop is a dangerous job and I would rather see an office kill someone then vise-versa.

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    missaay Female 18-29
    13 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 5:45 pm
    Why did the cop refuse to tell him how fast he was going!? I get that by refusing to sign the ticket he placed himself under arrest and he shouldn`t have been walking around and not doing what the cop was telling him to do... but why! Why did the cop not tell him how fast he was going! And he didn`t read him his rights... you HAVE to do that, right?
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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 6:22 pm
    ^^^ If he would have looked at the ticket, it would have said how fast he was going.

    Don`t think an officer is pointing the taser at you to show you his new toy. He`s going to use it if you don`t listen.

    As pointed out, reading someone their rights is done when questioning them. "You have the right to remain silent..." Doesn`t have anything to do with being arrested.

    It`s scary how people will shout out what they "know" to be the law, and be completely wrong. Too many people get their law degree from Law & Order or CSI.

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    Somnerkai Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 6:31 pm
    1) The officer was just doing his job. The reason that he pulled over just before the sign is to enforce the law. You can see those signs a considerable distance away. They mean that you are suppossed to be at that speed when you reach the sign, not start slowing down when you reach it.
    2) The officer was in a marked patrol car. How low does your IQ have to be to see a very large 40 MPH Speed limit sign, with a Highway Patrol car *parked* near it, to not slow down to the proper speed???? Besides, if it is limited to 40 MPH, it is likely that there is construction ahead, so the driver was likely putting someone else`s life in danger by speeding...
    3) As stated earlier, you do not have to sign a speeding ticket. However, if you do not, the officer *can* legally place you under arrest. In fact, they should, otherwise there is no legal evidence for a court of law to use to try the subject of the alleged offense (if you are not arrested and did not sign the ticket, you could just say.
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 6:31 pm
    it doesn`t matter tasering the man was completely wrong. you don`t taser someone for not signing a speeding ticket. you calmly explain in a civilized professional manner that if you do not sign the ticket you will be arrested but no he just went all taser happy
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    Somnerkai Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 6:36 pm
    ***CONTINUED***
    that the officer just made it up).
    4) Also as stated earlier, when placed under arrest, the officer *does not* have to read you your rights. That comes when you are charged or questioned.
    5) I agree that the officer was a quick on the draw with the taser. However, that does not make him a prick or any of the other names that people here have called him. The subject in this case was arguementative and not obeying the officer`s clear directions ("Place your hands behind your back."). In fact, when told to do so, the subject backed away, turned, and walked back toward his vehicle. That is a big BIG *B*I*G* No NO when dealing with any officer during a traffic stop. The officer can only assume for his own safety that you are disobeying for a nefarious purpose (like to run or get a weapon, or otherwise resist arrest). Drawing a weapon such as a taser is standard operating procedure at this point for almost all Highway Patrol Divisions.
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    tgirl149 Female 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 7:41 pm
    al of you guys are a-holes, seriously, tasering should be against the law, just like using guns in casual ordeals
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    TeHrussian Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:21 pm
    Just because he`s supposed to read the rights, doesn`t mean he has to. The only real difference it makes is if the perpetrator confesses to anything, if he was not read his rights, it is not admissible in the court of law.

    In the original case Miranda was arrested for rape and confessed while in custody. However, he was not aware of his right to remain silent, and the case was thrown out of court. Now, Miranda rights are a requirement before any interrogation. The reason they are usually read at the time of arrest, is because it is not uncommon for a perp to make incriminating statements before an interrogation.

    On the situation itself: the driver is legally at fault for disobeying instructions. He does not realize that the cop already made up his mind about his guilt, which is why he was pulled over, so arguing is pointless. He should sign the ticket and contest it in traffic court.

    The cop obviously exceeded reasonable force and should suffer the consequences.

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    Putzpie Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2007 at 8:45 pm
    "THIS IS WHY ALL COPS SHOULD DIE !!"-cybercow
    And then what?
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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 9:23 pm
    The officer was obviously poorly/under trained in his people handling skills or he is just a prick with a bad attitude. Right or wrong, this officer is screwed. This is an example what not to do if your a law enforcement officer or a traffic offender. Always sign the receipt for a ticket and always sign not guilty even if you are. You can usually change your plea and pay the fine before going to court.
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    NOFX14 Male 18-29
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    November 23, 2007 at 10:18 pm
    getting a bit carried away with the tasers now eh? so ridiculous
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    patridiot Male 30-39
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    November 23, 2007 at 11:09 pm
    rule #1: Don`t argue with the cop. If you have a beef with the ticket, take it and your evidence to the courts. Or just be a man and admit you screwed up.

    rule #2: Don`t be a prick. The squeaky wheel may get the grease at WalMart. Use your brain and realize the cop isn`t trying to earn your business. Be nice to the cop, don`t give a lame excuse, and you may just get a warning.

    rule #3: Do what the cop tells you to do. He/she doesn`t know you from Adam and his/her #1 priority is to go home at the end of the shift. There is no room for assumption when their life may be on the line. Expect them to use force or taser if you resist their commands.

    The cop did nothing wrong in this video. The driver, however, was a classic textbook moron.

    I`ve met some prick officers, this isn`t one of them.

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    kodkilla Male 18-29
    15 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 11:22 pm
    Was I the only one who laughed when the other cop came on and said he rid the teaser? The cop seemed like a nice guy. People are both stupid and hippie-fagg*t-p*ssy here I guess? Not the admins of course, they just post the stuff.
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    Smollet Male 13-17
    97 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 11:47 pm
    This is what happens when stupid meets stupid.
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    chillywhack Male 40-49
    161 posts
    November 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm
    Seems to me the cop was a little quick on the draw. But, the whole thing about it being in front of pregnant wife and baby is a bit dramatic.
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    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 12:55 am
    "The cop did nothing wrong in this video. The driver, however, was a classic textbook moron."

    Makes me want to smack patridiot upside the head. Why do you say that? because only one of them can be wrong? Look back a page and read the story behind this. By UHP`s own admission, they`re only authorized to use tasers when a person is a danger to himself or others.

    Cops DON`T have any right to taser you for walking in the opposite direction. There was nothing in the driver`s demeanor that would suggest he was or was becoming violent.

    I`m not making any excuse for the driver acting stupid (look a few posts above), but...

    The cop is a power-corrupted non-nice individual. His real gripe was that the driver was not doing exactly as told. Instead of explaining about challenging a ticket in traffic court.
    Read about what power does to people:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_pr...

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    tjanator Male 13-17
    145 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 1:15 am
    that is terrible.
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    Declan191919 Male 13-17
    1275 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 1:39 am
    iTS WRONG
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    Gnarkill07 Male 18-29
    122 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:06 am
    all you fu(king foreigners can shut the fu(k up. that cop had EVER right to do that. that stupid guy should just sign the frickin paper and go on his way. if he felt he was wronged, he can fight it in traffic court. instead, the fu(king idiot started running around and disobeying a police officers direct orders. i applaud this officers response to the situation. if it were me, i would have done the exact same thing.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:19 am
    "I`m sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn`t even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please."

    Maybe if you`re Bruce drating Lee! Are you drating retarded? Do you honestly thing that the job of a cop is to bring exciting UFC action to your car door? No moron. I`m sorry that you don`t give a drat about the safety of our law enforcers, but some people do.

    A cop`s job isn`t to roam the streets looking for people who do things that cop personally doesn`t like, and then challenging them to a dratin duel to decide weather or not the cops beliefs are to be upheld.

    There is law. Cops look for people not following the law. If they find one, the cop is to either issue a citation or detain them to be judged by a *gasp* judge at a latter time.

    IF YOUR DUMB ASS DOES NOT FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF THE COP TO THE dratING LETTER, THEN YOU GET FORCED TO. End of drating story.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:23 am
    I will bet you anything that if it had been me in that idiot`s place, that that would have been the most boring video ever.

    WhY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!??!?! Do so many drating morons (like this guy) out there believe that cops are drating judges? Why the drating hell would you try to argue the validity of the speeding ticket with the cop?!?! Its like getting into a screaming match with your mailman because you don`t agree with your drating phone bill!

    If everyone would just do what cops tell them to, cops wouldn`t carry any weapons ever!

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:28 am
    And TeHrussian, Ya know what? If it was up to me, cops wouldn`t carry tazers, just guns. And if it was up to me, the man in this video would have been shot dead.

    As horrifying as that sounds, guess what? The fact still remains, if everyone followed cop`s orders, no one would get shot even under my rule.

    And if idiots like the guy in this video knew that that was an option, they would be FAR less likly to disobey in the first place.

    When you coddle anything, it flourishes, even ignorance.

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    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 3:28 am
    ROFL @ zerocyde!

    "If everyone would just do what cops tell them to, cops wouldn`t carry any weapons ever!"

    Let`s give them absolute power and hope they`re not corrupted! Seriously!

    If he`s not in danger, he doesn`t get to use it. Tazer is NOT a tool for compliance, it`s a non-lethal tool of defense!

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    Randy4861 Male 40-49
    187 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 3:36 am
    Ok, I am now convinced that we have raised a country full of idiots! quedas is leading the way. Pin his arms instead of deploying the taser? Get out of you video games and into the real world. Its real simple here in America. What a police officer tells you to do is a LAWFUL ORDER. Failure to follow this is obstructing or resisting. Go to any other county and get beat with the night stick if you think the taser is worse. Actually, most countries would do much worse. These punks that called their parents by their first names and defied athority at every turn need to learn the simple rules of society. I didn`t fight in two conflicts to give you freedom to scoff society and its laws. Shut up, LISTEN to the officer, and in America we argue in court, not with the officer that is doing his job. You were speeding, take your ticket and shut up! The taser and the camera are the best tools police have. Better than a beat down in an alley. Get real, this world owes you punks nothing.
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    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 4:53 am
    You know what, yeah, let`s completely give up and liberty we have! As a matter of fact, we should institute subliminal messages telling us to obey whatever a person working in the government tells us.

    Of course, lets also consider what qualifications one needs to become a cop. A high school diploma, average physical shape and citizenship? A few months of training? And lets not forget that a dangerous job with comparably low compensation attracts only the best and the brightest. And no, they`re not human and never make mistakes or take advantage of their authority!

    Seriously, let`s just become zombies and refuse to challenge authority. Better yet, let`s live in fear of being shot on any traffic stop.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 5:18 am
    Dude, therussian, wtf are you babbling about? Who the drat ever said anything about giving cops ANY power?

    "Better yet, let`s live in fear of being shot on any traffic stop."

    Alright, you are retarded. You`re the exact type of idiot I was talking about. You seem to think that cops are drating judges.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 5:21 am
    @ Randy4861

    *stands and applauds*

    HEAR-dratING-HEAR

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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:38 am
    "Cops DON`T have any right to taser you for walking in the opposite direction. There was nothing in the driver`s demeanor that would suggest he was or was becoming violent."

    He was told he was under arrest and to put his hands behind his back. He didn`t. So, do you think it would have been dangerous to grab the guy and fight him on the side of the highway?

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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:39 am
    I myself have grown to hate, I mean hate with the most extreme use of the word. Not because I want to but because my own life experiences have forced me into this mindset. All based of crooked/corrupt cops doing whatever they want, then lying and covering for each other after the fact. I have had bad experiences in Missouri, Florida, Texas (om my gawd texas) and California. They never change - just a bunch of underpaid punks that apparently cant handle stress. (so why did they choose a career in law enforcement)
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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:44 am
    San Diego, CA: A bunch of young virbrant cops pump 17 rounds into a well-known 90-year old homeless man who could barely move from A to B. Wow, what drating hero`s.

    San Diego, CA: An off duty police officer got "scared" in a dark alley and shot a San Diego Charger linebacker like 7 times. A prominent member of the community with no record at all.

    My sister and her husbands are cops in Kansas City and they tell me how cops let other cops get away with speeding and DUI`s on an almost weekly basis. Total horsepoo.

    Its time for cops to be made to follow the rules and regulations like every other citizen.

    I personally cant drating stand cops. I hate them. Im tired of getting harassed, vehicle searched, etc.. all w/o provication. Im a working professional with a graduate degree from Cal, Im always respectfull to cops but time and time again I find myself getting harassed and illegally searched in California.

    I`m flat drating tired of cops thinking they are above the law

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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:54 am
    San Diego, CA:

    During a busy day on the beach a fight broke out on one end of the boardwalk in Pacific Beach. Cops showed up via car, bycicle, and four wheelers. As the cops search for the perps, another man jumps on the four wheeler and drives it into the surf and runs down the beach. An innocent bystander runs to try and save the four wheeler, and low and behold cops throw this man to the ground and vilnetly handcuff all while 50 bystanders are telling them his wasn`t the guy, he was tying TO HELP. 1) Why did they throw him to the ground and violently handcuff him without issuing A SINGLE GOD DAMN instruction to the man. They didn`t say "Freeze" or "Lay Down" or "Halt your under arrest" they just violently throw him down, in front of his wife and kids, and looks liked total hyper-active unprofessional bumbling idiots. Even 30 minutes later, trying to save face, these cops still have this poor man in handcuffs in front of hundreds of people, including h

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    Qpax Male 18-29
    188 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:58 am
    I`m sure this has been said here before, and I know I`ve said it in other places, but - there`s really no excuse for tasering someone like that.
    A taser is a dangerous weapon, and people have been killed by them on many occasions. Of course they should be used if there`s a danger to the officer or someone else, but just doing it for the convenience of disabling someone, before all other avenues have been explored, is criminal.

    The officer`s entire attitude is summed up by `I though "I`m not playing this game any more"`, as though he just couldn`t be bothered to do anything else. He could have just walked over to the guy and stopped him getting in his car, and if necessary he could easily have restrained him. Someone said earlier that being tasered is more humane than that - I know what I`d prefer...

    Why was he even telling the guy to get on the floor and pointing the taser at him in the first place? He should have instructed without threat, and/or cuffed him against th

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    Qpax Male 18-29
    188 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:59 am
    the car...
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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 11:59 am
    Berkeley, CA:

    Im at a college party. Weed is being smoked (as is in 90% of the parties in California). This apartment is on the 9th floor, the only window that is open leads to a central ventilation shaft that can`t be accessed by people. A cop knocks on the door (which was also chained shut inside) and a girl opens the door w/o openning the chain. The cops says "Open the door NOW" in a loud authorative manner. So she does. As the cop starts to step thru the doorway, the owner comes to the front and immediately says "Out, you have not been invited in my house, you are not welcome here". The cops ignore him and proceed immediately to the back room (where the tv/stereo and most of the party goers were) Subsequently several people were arrested for possesion of marijuana. Weeks later an attourney hired to look into the matter obtained all the reports and documentation associated witht the bust. Right there in plain english the cops told their superiors they were invi

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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 12:03 pm
    ..the cops told there superiors they were invited in and they claimed the girl said (and it was quoted in the report) "Sure, Come on in, were just blowing off semester end stress" COMPLETE AND TOTAL FABRICATION. 4 people were near the door when the cop knocked, including myself. Complete and total lie. Needless to say, we never saw any punishment for the liars (cops) nor did any of the charges get dropped.

    At no time, including the girl that answered the door, were the cops invited in. No gestures were made that could have been interpreted as an invitation. These cops just decied to do what they wanted, when they wanted, and then lied to cover their asses.

    And cops wonder why 95% of the public hates them.

    I F U C K I N G HATE COPS.

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    Fuego Male 40-49
    1287 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 12:05 pm
    I wonder what happened to rhugga in Texas. There are all kinds of people out there: good, bad, smart, stupid, wise, foolish, kind, angry, and many other antonyms, too. Believe it or not, there is job-screening in law enforcement! Even so, sometimes you`ll find Barney Fifes out there.

    That said, the alleged offender came off as an idiot. The cop in the video, which doesn`t capture anything in full-context, seemed quick to escalate. Maybe he had valid reasons; I don`t know.

    But I do know that if I pulled someone over who became argumentative and uncooperative, I`d be cautious too. If you think the officer should have known the guy he pulled over wasn`t going to attempt to produce a weapon you got another think coming. In the real world people don`t always furrow their brows, froth at the mouth, verbalize threats, or otherwise give clues physical violence will begin in 3, 2, 1.

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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 1:44 pm
    Here`s an observation of mine. I know a lot of officers. I know a even more people that aren`t. I`ve noticed that (more often than not) the people who "hate cops" are the ones that are always doing something wrong. Notice in the above story. The "drinking and pot smoking" party was busted and people taken to jail. The subjects in the apartment, the ones doing the drinking and smoking, have a different version of what happened than the officers. Hmmmmm...

    And why do you think the problems are following this guy everywhere he goes? Myself, I have NEVER had a problem with cops. Why, you ask? Because I don`t do anything wrong, that`s why! I`m 31 years old, and I`ve been pulled over 4 times. Sure, you can say it`s because of where I live, but guess what... I hear people from my home town talk about being stopped, ticketed, or arrested all the time. Their claim... crooked cops. Hmmm... wonder why that is...

    I`ve seen cases thrown out left and right for unlawful searc

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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 1:45 pm
    I`ve seen cases thrown out left and right for unlawful searchs. How does that happen if all the cops cover for each other, and everyone is crooked?
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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:10 pm
    Randy4861
    Male, 30-39, Midwest US
    5 Posts Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:36:37 AM
    Ok, I am now convinced that we have raised a country full of idiots! quedas is leading the way.

    Actually, sh*it for brains, I`m gladly not from your violence-addicted country. But I`m gonna try to stay positive and believe you`re only part of a very loud and obnoxious minority that thinks that talking really tough in anyway compensates for their one inch penis. Why don`t you just go buy yourself a sports car and leave the talking to the grown-ups, ok?

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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:12 pm
    Oh, and I`m not even going to dignify Zerocyde with a reply. For the same reason I don`t discuss theology with the drunk hobo down my block.
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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:34 pm
    Oh, for the guy that asked what happened in Texas. I was in Austin for 2 year and I was dumbfounded at how bad people drive especially the cops. I reported cops for "road rage" 6 different times when living there. I followed a motorcycle cop 30 miles out of my way one day after filming him weaving in and out of traffic on his way home from work. (his official police motorcycle in uniform) If this was a normal citizen the charges would have been many and steep. Without a doubt. I called and complained and threatened to submit my video to every news agency in town. I got a call from his superior 2 weeks later and this guy didn`t give one rats ass. He kept coming up with excuses like "he could have been in pursuit of sokmeone" which is why I followed him for 30 miles. I wanted to make sure he was gong home after an irritating hot day on patrol. (learning the hard way from a previous complaint, I covered all the bases this time)

    No punishment what so ever.

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    quedas Male 18-29
    164 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:38 pm
    Oh, and I`m not even going to dignify Zerocyde with a reply. For the same reason I don`t discuss theology with the drunk hobo down my block.
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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:39 pm
    Another time I was pulled over for supposedly speeding, 5 miles over in a 45mph one Sunday morning as I`m coming home from Church. (and I never speed anymore after losing my license for 30 days in CA,ever) So I asked to see the radar. He gets fuming mad, I mean fuming mad, and tells me to hold on. He went back to his car for a brief second and then called for me to approach his drivers side door which was open. We were parked on a slant and as I approached his door start swinging shut - he kicked it open violently and it hit me square in the shin and drew blood. He put a fooking gash in my shin and paid it no attention. Then he tells me "The radar has already reset itself" It had actually locked on to a vehicle that pulled into the same parking lot I did. I then asked to see the calibration record for his radar and this made him even angrier. Needless to say I got a ticket, then even fought it in court and still lost. The case his currently still under appeal but it doesnt lo
  98. Profile photo of rhugga
    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:44 pm
    Hey BubbaLuvSponm

    One thing I didnt mention these were mostly grad students, at Cal, which also included the wife of a San Francisco DISTRICT ATTOURNEY. Yes we were all lying. (who refused to support us for obvious reasons)

    Its negative attitudes like yours like pave the way for so much corruption in law enforcement.

    Yea, we all know cops, who have little beyond a high school diploma, don`t lie. Its the hard working graduate students keeping to themselves in their locked apartment that lie. yea, that makes sense.

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    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:48 pm
    I say that it`s time to declare open season on cops. See one, and shoot his ass.

    That would be a great way to protest all of this police brutality.

    Police action is getting ridiculous.

    F.U.C.K. them. Who cares if they die?

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    rhugga Male 30-39
    11 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 2:52 pm
    Oh I forgot to mention that the 4 people that were in the entry all offered, in a court of law, to submit to polygraph tests which they were willing to pay for themselves. We had even already contacted a 3rd party polygraph expert (a former US army CID agent turned private eye no less) but the judge refused to here any of this talk.

    Not only did they police not follow procedure, then lie, but the judge didn`t follow California law and procedure either. I know that appeals were filed but I never heard the results.

    The most anyone got out of the entire ordeal was a $300 fine but still, it doesn`t give the cops the right to break the law themselves, and illegally enter a private residence. This isn`t Riyahd, this is the United States of America.

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    TeHrussian Male 18-29
    490 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 3:00 pm
    Zerocyde YOU SAID THAT. There`s a memory test, I strongly suggest you take it! You`re the one who said that people should always do whatever cops tell them to. You`re the one who said that the cops shouldn`t have tasers and the guy should`ve been shot.

    I can`t wait till you get pulled by an non-nice individual cop who will haze you. I talked to a cop that is actually proud of that. His favorite was when he pulled over a guy, told him to jog in place with his arms straight out (for a sobriety test) and his eyes closed, until told to stop. Then he got back in his cruiser, drove into a cafe across the street and sat there drinking coffee, watching the guy for 10 minutes. Oh how I wish it would be you!

  102. Profile photo of BubbaLuvSpon
    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 3:16 pm
    So, a collection of grad students and the wife of the DA, just sitting around getting stoned? You`re right, I`m sure there wasn`t a dishonest person in the bunch.
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    Putzpie Male 13-17
    199 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 5:58 pm
    "F.U.C.K. them. Who cares if they die?"-cybercow(again?)
    You obviously are like those school kids who in kindergarden thought that the teachers had no lives and just lived at school in the basement, on the desk, or whereever and didn`t go out anywhere. Cops are people too jackass, they have family, friends, etc. They may have more power than civilians(and abuse it sometimes), but does it really mean that they should be shot? no, because not ever cop is some jackass going on a power trip. But ok, let`s see what happens when we DO shoot all of them? then what? exactly, when you`re getting your ass robbed nobody is gonna go out of their way to help you.
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    Toonoisy Female 18-29
    102 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 6:49 pm
    I think those who carry tasers should try being hit with a taser each year, this way they now it`s not like sticking your tongue on a battery. I also believe cops carrying pepper spray should, once a year, be sprayed too. When you know how painful it is, maybe you`ll use it less?
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    snottydyck Male 40-49
    695 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 7:05 pm
    this cop was probably picked on all his life by superior humans. hence the need to become a police officer. i hope he enjoys his new job at mcdonalds as that is where he belongs. i wish i was the victims lawyer as he is going to get a nice payday.
  106. Profile photo of cybercow
    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 7:31 pm
    Just like cops are randomly allowed to taze and shoot people without repercussions, people should randomly attack cops. That way the cops will know what it`s like to be on the receiving end.

    Sure, maybe there are some cops who are better than others. But, if those so called "good cops" don`t do anything to stop the bad ones, then why should anyone care if a cop gets beaten up or killed?

    It`s just part of the job..

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:13 pm
    You all are just drating idiots. But thats ok. Keep mouthing off to the cops and disrespecting them. Have fun getting tasered. Those of us who enjoy crime free lives and safe surroundings will go on having perfectly normal interactions with cops.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:22 pm
    Transcription of this video had it been me.

    Version 1:

    Cop: "Now I`m gonna need you to sign this ticket."
    Me: "Of course, I was speeding after all."
    Cop: "Have a nice day sir."
    Me: "Heh, Ill try."

    Version 2 (disagree):

    Cop: "Now I`m gonna need you to sign this ticket."
    Me: "Alright, but just to let you know I disagree with this ticket, and will be challanging this in court"
    Cop: *shrug* "Fine, thats your right sir."

    Version 3 (STRONGLY disagree):
    Cop: "Now I`m gonna need you to sign this ticket."
    Me: (deciding to be a drating idiot that thinks cops are judges) "No, I ain`t signing anything."
    Cop: "Sir, step out of the vehicle."
    Me: *I step out and start walking around behind the cop like a drating moron*
    Cop: "Turn around, put your hands behind your back!"
    Me: "Oh snap, you got a dratin tazer!" *i stop what I`m doing and foll

  109. Profile photo of Zerocyde
    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:25 pm
    *i stop what I`m doing and follow the cops instructions to the letter instead of asking whats wrong with him and walking away, directly disobeying an order.*
  110. Profile photo of BubbaLuvSpon
    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:26 pm
    Wow... hate cops, attack cops, kill cops... This place is filled with a bunch of crazy ass people! You claim to be superior, but you make statements like that. Yeah, there are bad cops. You also see cops being arrested all the time. Who do you think makes those arrests? Guess what, it`s cops doing the right thing. I can tell you, when a cop sees another doing something against the law, he does not cover it up. Do you know why? Because his career and life is on the line if he does. Don`t think for a minute that cops don`t know what it`s like to be attacked. It happens every day! Like someone said, these people are not just cops, they belong to a family, a family that worries about them every time they put on the uniform and start their duty.

    Also let`s not forget... it`s not against the law for them to use the taser. In fact, usually their department policy tells them when to use their taser.

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    BubbaLuvSpon Male 30-39
    159 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:33 pm
    And to address what someone had posted... Most states have built in to their training at the police academy and session about pepper spray. Usually, to conclude that training, they are sprayed with pepper spray, then "attacked", or put in a position to protect themselves.

    I don`t know if the taser has worked its way into the police academy yet. In not, I`m sure it won`t be long (if the tasers stick around) before they are. I do know that while the taser company does not require that a person be tased, it`s usually the departments policy to require that.

    Those things are required so the officer has a respect for what he uses. Odd, since the officer is not required to take a beating with a baton, or take a shot from a .40 cal to respect those things.

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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3258 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 8:45 pm
    @TeHrussian

    Cops have ONE authority. To inform you that they believe you have committed a crime, and that they will be filing the incident with the court, and to detain you until a you can be seen by a judge if you might be a threat to civilian safety or a risk of repeating the crime.

    I never ONCE advocated giving cops any more authority than that. I only advocated that the idiots in this county started RESPECTING that authority for a dratin change.

    @rhugga
    Wrongful or not, it never would have happened if you idiots hadn`t been doing something illegal. And I say good, I hope your little idiot pothead friends get in lots of trouble.

    Do I say good because I think what the cop did was right? No, he obviously was in the wrong. And should be punished... doesn`t mean I cant enjoy a few potheads getting busted though. :)

    Ohh, and 95% of the public doesn`t hate cops, 95% of ignorant teenage failures hate cops.

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    DemonCurtain Male 18-29
    244 posts
    November 24, 2007 at 9:07 pm
    Enjoy your police state.
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    TheGrag Male 13-17
    1497 posts
    November 25, 2007 at 12:39 am
    *completely agrees with Zerpcyde to stay out of the argument*
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    WNLD Female 18-29
    243 posts
    November 25, 2007 at 1:15 am
    Sorry if my question is a repeat; I only made it through the second page of comments. Where was the microphone for this incident? Was the cop wearing it on his body?? If so, has that become standard procedure to go along with the car cam?

    IMHO all three of them are stupid idiots. I have to stop subjecting myself to these videos, because they made me very sad without really teaching me anything new - or giving me any ideas about how I could make things better.

    A society of overgrown babies.

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    glocktypus Female 18-29
    430 posts
    November 25, 2007 at 1:58 am
    Why didn`t he just sign it? Everyone involved is an ass...
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    gregdaniels Male 18-29
    25 posts
    November 25, 2007 at 10:45 am
    I can`t believe you people think the cop was in the wrong. These people DESERVED it. You ALWAYS do what a cop says, and ask questions later. Take the ticket, even if they hadn`t done something wrong, and fight it in court, or call their office.
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    Kitzy Female 18-29
    15 posts
    November 25, 2007 at 11:19 pm
    Pretty stupid that this cop didn`t actually do his duty right. He was supposed to first tell him how fast he was going, what he`s charged with and tell him his rights.
    And he had no right to taser someone who was asking why he was being charged.
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    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 1:13 am
    its very easy to "monday night quarterback" the situation, we have the benefit of looking at this from the outside, with a pause button. But either way, what we have here is two human beings coming to conflict.

    There is no right side here, the driver was a stubborn idiot who didnt realise that the cop is not the one you argue your case to, thats what traffic court is for. The cop had many BETTER options then the taser, but was still not grossly unreasonable for choosing it. All you people who say the taser is brutal and horrible have obviously never been tased. I have. The pain doesnt even come from the electricity it comes from all your muscles clenching at once. Here is a little excercise for you. Clench your fist as HARD as you can, it hurts sure. Now let it go. Notice how fast the pain leaves? People dont fall to the ground from the pain, they fall cause they lost control of their muscles. Still for a speeding ticket it was a bit much.

    conclusion? humans are all idio

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    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 1:19 am
    and for those arguing about not having to do what the cop says, thats bull. You always do what a cop says. The confusion here is that you DONT have to do what a cop ASKS. There is a differance between "get out of your car" and "would you mind stepping out of your car?"

    the first was an order, that you must do (and if you dont like it, you can sue/argue about it later in court) the second was a request that you may say "no" to. The problem is not alot of people really pay attention to wether or not they were asked or told something when it comes to cops.

    and on a side note, its your responsibility as an american to know your dam rights, ignorance is not an excuse and is dam right disrespectful and if you get mistreated by a cop because you didn`t know then its your fault. put the dam xbox 360 controller down and read your dam rights! cause guess what? the cops already did.

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    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:12 am
    No you do not have to do what a cop says. For example: If a cop hands you a gun and tells you to shoot yourself, legally you can refuse.

    Tasing someone should be the last resort. This officer should be charged with attempted murder and thrown in jail for 10-20 with no chance for parole. This person should never work in law enforcement again once out of prison. Simple as that.

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    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 12:23 pm
    well i guess since we`re abandoning common sense... your right if he told you to kill yourself that would be an order you dont have to follow, but i dont remember hearing that in the video. As for tasering being a last resort? the taser was invented to be an alternative to physical violence and to be a better weapon choice then a baton or gun. It shouldnt be your first choice, but it should be pretty high up there on your choices.

    if taser is the last choice are you saying a gun is more acceptable then a taser? the cop was not completly right here, but a taser is NON LETHAL force, so attempted murder is just ignorant you dumb ass. the chance to die from a taser is extremly low and the people that do are not usually in the best health condition, and shouldnt be challenging cops in the first place.

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    rifter Male 30-39
    282 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 12:57 pm
    Randy4861: What a police officer tells you to do is a LAWFUL ORDER. Failure to follow this is obstructing or resisting.

    I`ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mis-spoke. Just because an officer tells you to do something does not make it lawful.

    On to the video:
    First, the driver was incorrect in his assumption of his rights. He has to sign the citation saying that he received it. That`s all you need to sign it for.
    Secondly, if you watch the video, you`ll see the officer pulls the Taser and points it at the driver. That pretty much says "I`m going to use this if you don`t stop and do what I tell you. NOW!" The Taser was used after the guy reached into his pocket and turned around. That`s a perceived threat and worthy of a Tasering.
    Thirdly, if the guy has asked to see the radar gun, the officer has to comply (evidence of wrongdoing). If not, the ticket is invalid (personal experience).

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    rifter Male 30-39
    282 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 1:07 pm
    Also, the guy is being pretty overdramatic. "I got arrested in front of my wife and kids. This is an outrage!" Yeah, well, buddy, a lot of people get arrested under more embarrassing situations.

    I like the part where he says he felt like his life was slipping away. That`s what it supposed to feel like! I`ve been hit twice with a Taser, both times willingly. The first one felt like I had been dosed with a paralyzing agent and burned with a lighter. The second time, I was ready for it, and it felt like my whole body was on fire. I could move a little bit, but not enough for it to have made any difference if I wanted to hurt anyone. And the barbs leave nice little burns where they touch your skin.

    And the ones saying, "tasers could kill," should understand that just about any effort to subdue a suspect can kill. How about a neck fracture while being forced to the ground? Heart attack from being scared?

    Just do what they say (within reason) and you wo

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    Jazeme Female 13-17
    26 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:00 pm
    "I`m sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn`t even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please"
    first off to be issued a taser that cop WAS tasered. he knows what it feels like. however, just because the guy did not sign the ticket does NOT mean he gets arrested. it just means it sucks when he goes to court. that trooper has espically no right to taser him considering he really didn`t do anything wrong except speed slightly. though yes he should have stopped walking back towards the truck when the officer told him to...
    and people wonder why i dislike troopers...
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    rifter Male 30-39
    282 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:19 pm
    Jazeme: You have to understand that the officer didn`t use the taser because the guy was speeding or didn`t sign the ticket. He tased him because he was walking away after being told to stop. Turning your back on an officer and reaching your hand into your pocket is considered a perceived threat. That`s what the guy did wrong.

    And we don`t how much the guy was speeding so you can`t say it was "slightly."

    You are required to sign a citation when you are given one. It`s merely an acknowledgment of receipt. If you refuse, you can be arrested for refusing to obey a lawful order. It says plainly on the citation that it not an acknowledgment of guilt.

    Judging by your age, you haven`t dealt enough with troopers to understand what they are really there for. Nor have you been driving long enough to understand the nuances of how it all works. I`m not age-bashing. Just saying you haven`t reached that point yet.

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    rojodesigner Female 30-39
    101 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 2:00 pm
    Most cops are dicks cause they can be. Plain and simple. The nice ones should fight to get bad cops like this fired because it gives all of them a bad name.
    Think Im not right...arent you surprised when you meet a really kind officer?
    Of course you are...its like seeing a rainbow...rare and beautiful.
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    beeyooteeful Female 18-29
    546 posts
    November 29, 2007 at 7:36 pm
    "that cops ass is going to be sued into oblivion"

    LOL
    I agree!

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    s2thab Male 18-29
    2 posts
    January 1, 2008 at 6:42 pm
    kill the cop, that`s all I have to say
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    JeanaH Female 13-17
    406 posts
    March 9, 2008 at 12:23 pm
    I feel sorry the wife and child had to witness that.

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