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My last point, then I`m done with this conversation... No matter where I`m at, and what the situation is, if 4 men come up to me with weapons drawn, I`m putting my hands up, and slowly laying on the ground. Same thing ANY reasonable person would do.
A polish dude was in the airport and couldn`t leave.Nobody spoke polish, nobody bothered to find a polish speaker.He got frustrated and started causing a scene. Four cops killed him.
What am I missing? Is causing a scene punishable buy death without a trial in Canada?
I thought the US was bad.
What were the risks to the cops? That he might staple them? Or yell at them in Polish? The DUDE IS FU(KING DEAD! They murdered him. I don`t think you understand this.
46 seconds warning. 46 SECONDS! In a language he doesn`t understand. You call that "enough time and warning" Are you insane?
What if four large Russians can up to you with weapons and started yelling in Russian at you, what would you do?
What if it was your son?
Whose to say someone in your family isn`t next? Will you support the police then? Or do you not care unless it affects you directly?
And no, I don`t think yelling at him in a language he doesn`t speak is going to make him stop his behavior. I do however think that getting an interpreter to find out why he is upset might be a good first step. Ten hours should be enough time to find a Polish speaker and find out what the guy`s problem is.
What were the police protecting exactly? Chairs? Computers? The guy had been there ten hours, if he was going to hurt someone he would have done it by then. I didn`t see him threaten anyone.
Supporting the police is fine, they have hard jobs. But my job is hard too and I don`t get to kill people that annoy me and get away with it. I would go to jail, just like these officers should.
This man was confused, tired and in a country where he didn`t speak the language. Four jack booted thugs came rushing in, yelling and brandishing weapons. All he did was try to move away from them, and then they killed him without a second thought.
Did you watch a different video than I did? I simply cannot imagine a mind so twisted, depraved and evil that could consider this acceptable.
As much as the taser companies state that Tasers are non lethal, it is simply not true. Tasers are deadly weapons. They kill people every day and cops know this. Those cops should feel awful. Imagine how the guy`s mother feels. Thugs killed her kid with impunity and are still walking around
Now that I read back, it appears that your comments were directed at the officers involved in the video. My statements were made believing that you thought that way of all officers. Now that I think about it, the officers were acting as they had been trained. Officers are not trained that a taser is a lethal weapon. If the officers were acting as they were trained, then I`m to assume that you group all such officers together. That being said, you ARE speaking of all officers. My above post stands as posted.
And I actually laughed out loud when someone up there said `tasers don`t kill people`. It doesn`t happen a lot, but still...How ignorant.
The guy had a small object in his hand (someone said a stapler, although I don`t know if that`s right), and was throwing a temper tantrum. He didn`t threaten or attack anyone. Hardly enough of a reason to severely injure him, especially when they could easily have tackled him to the ground.
xp, your take on the "police" shows me that you don`t have much of a brain to think with.
but this poor guy didnt speak english and clearly didnt do ANYTHING wrong.and then they ask him to put his hands behind his back WHILE BEING TASERD how the f u c k are you supposed to do that.
F U C K the police who do this. for real.
Nursesue: http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?l... Give that a read...
(That article was posted last year... I believe that number has doubled since then)
That being said, I wonder what the guy was going to do with all those chairs. And why did his mom not show up for 10 HOURS?!
Security communicated his tirade when requesting backup, so officers on scene already knew that they were dealing with a dangerous man. Yes a man who smashe TVs and throw chairs is dangerous. Imagine if that guy threw a chair and it hit a baby?
When the officers confronted him, hands on holsters, arms outstretched, the man could be seen completely ignoring them. I understand that there was a language barrier, but if I went to Polish Airport, smashed a T.V. and a chair, and 4 Polish cops surrounded me with hands on their holsters, I’d stop and put my hands up whether I understood them or not.
The man was uncooperative and dangerous to other people. It’s unfortunate that he died, but the police acted well within their limits.
There were three of them, and he was unarmed. They could have just arrested him and taken him to a hospital for evaluation.
Cops these days are too trigger happy.
kongan- The swear filter isn`t a fun little obstacle IAB put there so you can bypass it. You get warned which leads to banning. Just thought you might care to know that seeing that you don`t look like a spammy alter (judging by an actual avy and the 84 posts)
beng, patchouly, pinker- The video isn`t under the catagory of entertainment. It`s under News & Politics. So no, this video wasn`t intended to be entertaining.
Bubbla- T.A.S.E.R. Thomas A. Smith Electric Rifle. Hmm, I never knew that stood for something. That`s kinda cool :-D. Thanks
Will you speak up? Help your fellow human? Or capture the torture on video. . .What would you want someone to do for you or yours?
I think it is important that light is shed on this and if that means it is up on the net. . .I would hope somewhere it helps someone. . .
peace by peace, Dawn
I was once all for the taser being used. I`ve been tased, and I`ve seen many people tased. The more I hear about people dropping dead after being tased is starting to make me wonder. I think it`s time to put the tasers away and get back to some good `ole fist-a-cuffs! I was always more of a "hands-on" kind of guy anyway.
And yes patchouly its a ZX81 as sold in the UK in erm 1981 ;)
By the way beng_uk, is that a Timex Sinclair in your avatar?
It`s fudgein easy being an armchair human rights advocate isn`t it? Get off your ass? Goto school? Become an engineer? Design a safer tazer? Become a politician? Make some changes?
No drat that, cops are just evil, lets kill them all, then the world will be a lot better.
Oh and another thing why do people have a hard time spelling taser? I know it sounds like it should have a Z in it but it doesn`t.
What ever happened to the good ol` days when the boys in blue (this case white and black) would just use force without these stupid gadgets. Now it seems that they`re anxious to use this "taser" on just about anyone. Don`t they understand that the amount of electricity in one of those suckers can cause cardiac arrest or many more symptoms to people with heart problems? There were alternatives to solving this matter but it seems that the taser is just another quick and easy way to handle matters now a days. Makes me want to scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So this man gets upset at something, calls the police(CLEARLY, there`s a recording of him calling the police for some reason) a couple seconds/minutes later, he starts getting pissed off, one thing leads to another and he`s surrounded by 4 armed RCMP officers(RCMP = Federal cops, not local)Now by this point there are dozens of possibilities as to what the cops can do, they can negotiate, they can tackle him if needed.And yet...Yet they decide to tazer him.
I`ll say that again, 4 cops surrounding an unarmed man(who seems a little to big to be able to fight back too effectively) and they decide to tazer...
i still laugh every time i think about that. even tho its fake and it has no meaning.
Guns don`t kill people. Irrational cops with tasers do.
<i>Robert Dziekanski, 40, went on a rampage on October 14 after arriving on a flight from Germany and waiting for 10 hours for his mother. He died minutes after the police action.</i>
Rampage? ...more like a temper fit. Hardly a rampage.
Maybe they would have.
And what was that women saying in the beginning?
Is it just me, or does every anonymous person behind a camera in situations like this sound exactly the same?
I bet he evacuated his bowels. :-D