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Date: 11/26/07 02:36 AM

224 Responses to Proof That the First Moon Landings Were Staged?

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:31 am
    Link: Proof That the First Moon Landings Were Staged? - This guy points out a few interesting tip-offs in the actual moon walk footage.
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    Pynxia Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:41 am
    WIRE WEIGHT XD
  3. Profile photo of brutalnz
    brutalnz Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:42 am
    seen this stuff before and NASA`s lame counter arguement
  4. Profile photo of nakoninja
    nakoninja Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:42 am
    lets just completely forget that old videos had a ton of these unexplained lights orbs that in photos were called ghosts and that the moon`s gravity is like a 4th that of ours....
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    chikoori Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:43 am
    Nothing but complete and utter crap.
  6. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:44 am
    Yeah, but it looked like the moon. How do they explain that?
  7. Profile photo of andyman
    andyman Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:44 am
    Poo...
    Give up conspiritors!
  8. Profile photo of simcon
    simcon Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:45 am
    AKappy your right. I do believe the moon landing was real. Why don`t you believe the moon landing is real brutalnz?
  9. Profile photo of Doomlike
    Doomlike Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:48 am
    OMG, I can`t believe I got tricked by the goverment. AGAIN ! Blasted goverment with the somewhat impossible power to silence thousands of witnesses, why do you have to trick us !?
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    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:51 am
    Gee, you would have thought that the Russians would have spoke up with all this "evidence" long ago...

    Care to explain that, conspiracy theorists?

  11. Profile photo of Kisato
    Kisato Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:52 am
    Ugh.. What next? Video `proof` that the earth is flat? Give me a break...
  12. Profile photo of simcon
    simcon Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:56 am
    Could someone plz explain why some people are dumb enough to believe that the moon landing is FAKE :S
  13. Profile photo of Imeagla
    Imeagla Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:57 am
    Just the fact that you`ve taken anything AKappy says seriously, Simcon, suggests that you`re a moron. AKappy is the Stephen Colbert of IAB forum postings...But, you keep on doing your thing, dude...
    If you choose to ignore this and other things...Such as the radiation belt surrounding the earth...The fact that none of the astronauts have been stricken with any kind of cancer...Call that luck, if you wish, but I don`t know how stupid you are, but I`ll put it this way: Photos and the likes would be ruined or at least damaged by that...Forgive the grammar and such. I`m drunk and going to bed..
  14. Profile photo of Imeagla
    Imeagla Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 2:58 am
    Sure, Simcon. People like you are the reason the government tries to trick people like me. Unfortunately, you`re the majority.
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    Imeagla Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:00 am
    Cashcleaner...The moonlanding was faked to improve morale amongst the American People. They believed it for the same reason that you do, douche-bag. It looks real. And they didn`t really have the means to pick apart this kind of footage in their time.
  16. Profile photo of Imeagla
    Imeagla Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:00 am
    But seriously. Drunk. Bed. G`night.
  17. Profile photo of Mweebles
    Mweebles Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:00 am
    why do people feel the need to debunk EVERYTHING?
  18. Profile photo of xxmiranda
    xxmiranda Female 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:01 am
    *sigh*
    Oh, America. A conspiracy theroist`s playground.
  19. Profile photo of Tyrizzle
    Tyrizzle Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:03 am
    ^What I was thinking...
    Seriously with all of this effort this man put towards this crap that is almost unimportant in every aspect...except you know...maybe our great great great great great great children being able to live in space...I honestly stop caring after the second great ^-^
  20. Profile photo of nakoninja
    nakoninja Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:07 am
    radiation belt hm?

    well lets see.... astronauts in a spaceship shielded from radiation.... yea now why would they get cancer from that??

    also just because you are exposed to radiation does not mean you will get cancer. tanning beds send radiation into you and it actually helps a lot of people

  21. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:10 am
    "AKappy is the Stephen Colbert of IAB forum postings."

    Um, Stephen Colbert is the ME of political telvision satire. Thanks.

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    teatimecream Female 60-69
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:16 am
    **Googles Stephen Colbert**
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    danield Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:16 am
    "Such as the radiation belt surrounding the earth...The fact that none of the astronauts have been stricken with any kind of cancer..."

    Actually, thats where you`re wrong. The radiation belt is one of the very things that proves they did go to the moon. Evidence shows that 33 of the 36 astronauts who ventured past the belt developed early stage cataracts from exposure to cosmic rays. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moo...

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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:25 am
    I agree with Mweebles, xxmiranda, chikoori, and simcon.

    Imeagla, unfortunately, you are the one who`s been tricked.

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    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:26 am
    A) The `ping` on the second wire clip at the top of the screen was just the result of old grainy film, and the reflections, right above the astronauts backpacks, from what look to be wires are from what we call "Radio Antennas"
    B) This is a load of crap. The US landed on the moon.
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    Itsdude56 Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:34 am
    how can you trust old f*cked up footage!
  27. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:35 am
    What a load of conspiracy-theorist horsewank. Imeagla, let me guess... not only were the moon landings fake, but also the government is hiding secret alien spacecraft from Roswell at Area 51 and 9-11 was a set-up! Right?
  28. Profile photo of Night1ord
    Night1ord Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:36 am
    lol, whats next? 9/11 an inside job?
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    Kaizer250 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:41 am
    Yeah, but we know for sure that we have been to the moon, as with a really good telescope you can actually see the United States flag up there.
  30. Profile photo of XaviMagi
    XaviMagi Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:42 am
    Oh dehr more conspiracy tools on the interweb :o
  31. Profile photo of Kyur
    Kyur Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:47 am
    Geeze, if you have ever played Area 51 you should know that of course it was staged. The government is hiding the fact that Aliens live on the moon.
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    coleycolkins Female 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:47 am
    Anyone who believes the landing is a conspiracy should look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon...
    After reading a few of the responses, it`s obvious they did land on the moon.
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    LKJSlain Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:52 am
    What I want to know is this... why would the government go SOOOO out of it`s way (buying equipment, finding people to "REHEARSE", building movie sets, pre-recording everything, etc,) To MAKE it look like we landed on the moon? O_o... I mean what is the point? What were they planning? I mean, someone said "it boosts MORALE" WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!?!? So, the government was all sitting around twiddling their thumbs and then some brave soul jumped up and said "I KNOW! LET`S STAGE A MOON LANDING TO BOOST MORALE!!!" No... no one could have known what it was GOING to do... so why "stage" it? What, just for kicks?
  34. Profile photo of xp
    xp Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 4:00 am
    It is impossible to keep something like a faked moon landing a secret. Somebody would have talked in the last 40 years. A crew member from the set, one of the actors, the camera man the film developer.. someone.
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    powpowking Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 4:06 am
    LMAO HE SED "THE"!!!...ITS SOOOO FRIKKING INTERESTING!!!...not....
  36. Profile photo of yankee15
    yankee15 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 4:09 am
    "Here`s a sequence from one of our own productions."

    Ha! This guy just wants to promote his crappy movie!

  37. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 4:31 am
    Imeagla, sometimes I agree with you, but this time you`re retarded.

    If they had staged the moon landing I think they would have elaborated on the `weightlessness` just a bit more to make it `more` spectacular.

    and I agree that guy is taking reflections off visors/suits and grainy film as "wires" I mean it doesn`t matter that they`re on the moon, (the light side of it I might add) so there`s plenty of unfiltered light shining directly on them being recorded by old film methods.


    The radiation belts are just something that conspiracy theorists came up with to say "we didn`t go" in actuality they aren`t strong enough to kill anyone and often wouldn`t have much affect if any. Do some research before you spout of something you found from www.consipiracytheories.com (just made it up)

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    Glowy Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 4:33 am
    LKJSlain look here.
  39. Profile photo of Jesus_Wey
    Jesus_Wey Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 5:04 am
    i never seen this videos. now i think the moon landing was fake. there is one part that almost convinces me. when the astronaut tries to get up, and he falls on his knees kind of hard, then he tries again and it looks like he`s flying. maybe someday we`ll find out for sure.
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    PianoMan21 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 5:30 am
    Awesome. Someone else who doesn`t know what they`re talking about makes a movie.
    *headdesk*

    "Wires" = lens refractions
    "Radiation belts" = nominal
    "Conspiracy theorists" = lonely angry people

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 5:41 am
    Everyone knows that the Apollo missions were filmed at the the world trade center while it was being constructed from 1965-1973.

    Definitive proof of this was about to be unleashed ot the world, which is why George Bush and NASA took down the buildings on 9/11.

    They blamed it on the terrorists so that they could film next moon missions in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    All you people who don`t believe this are sheep.

    bah..bahhh...you`re all brainwashed sheep.

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    kongen Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 5:47 am
    USofA is a load of crap. If americns could bye the moon they would...
  43. Profile photo of prontastic
    prontastic Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 6:02 am
    Meh
    Even if it wasn`t faked, It was still "standing on the shoulders of giants"
    First in space is the real achievement
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    ImaginaryN Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 6:14 am
    In 1959, the US space budget was only 5billion dollars, within 6 years it peaked at well over 30billion(equivalent). Thats way more than it ever has been since then! Maybe they faked the landings so they could spend all that money secretly making and pointing missiles at the russians and who knows whoelse, or generally using it under false pretenses?
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    Omi Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 6:24 am
    Now I`m not pointing to conspiracy here, but the one thing that I never understood is why did they stop after Apollo 17? Too much physical and financial commitment? Not worth any more trips since they collected enough data?

    As of today, there hasn`t been another moon landing since 1972, and the next moon mission (Orion 17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_17) is planned for 2019. Now we did land in 1969 - given the limited technology compared to today, so what gives? Did such valuable knowledge get lost through the generations that we can`t do it now?

    And one other issue that bothers me is that why did Russia all of a sudden stop? Was it just because that America got there first, and they all of sudden give up? I find that difficult to beleive.

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    zoogle Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 6:35 am
    ^^ I think they stopped because they had finnished with the moon and started looking further away at missions such as Mars instead. They`d done the moon so didn`t see and point in coming back to it.

    I agree with what someone else said, if it really was fake, the Russians would have picked up on it, and announced it to the world long ago. It would have been brilliant properganda to them.

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    Shanir Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 6:59 am
    Why would they lie about it?
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    balyash Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:08 am
    And there is the whole hammer/feather demo

    Hammer/Feather Video

    Notice how slow they fall, can`t do that on Earth! And the fact they fall at the same rate? Well, there is no atmosphere on the moon.

  49. Profile photo of tgirl149
    tgirl149 Female 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:11 am
    wtv i still believe they landed on the moon
  50. Profile photo of Kyur
    Kyur Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:12 am
    Omi, it`s because the moon is boring to us now. Before it was full of mystery but now that we know it`s just a rock who cares. That`s what I think anyways.

    "USofA is a load of crap. If americns could bye the moon they would..."
    Damn right we would! Then we would build a god damn death ray on it! WHAT NOW!?

    ^
    Because the government loves to lie to us. For them it`s a game. See how long we can keep the masses in the shadows. They even place bets on when we will find out.

  51. Profile photo of Kyur
    Kyur Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:15 am
    Lol at the video in Balyash`s comment. "How `bout that." For some reason it made me laugh.
  52. Profile photo of duncstar
    duncstar Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:28 am
    Who cares if it was faked or not? It`s a lot of tax-payers money spent on sending 3 blokes to a rock with no atmosphere and a fraction of the earth`s gravity. The only reason, to see if we could do it. The last moon landing was 35 years ago, and there isn`t going to be enough money to send up another one for decades. So who realy cares? I don`t think it was fake, just a bit pointless. All the money now is focused on wars and putting missiles in space.
  53. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 7:51 am
    i don`t understand why people think its absolutely impossible for the government to lie to us. Does it scare you or something? Or is it simply impossible for your mind to accept? because corrupt governments have existed throughout time. its not that hard to accept.

    another thing i dont think anyones pointed out yet, is some places ( didnt check THIS video, but i was watching another thing like it) there are many shadows. now whether or not each space craft is giving off enough light idk. but its just something else.

    and think about it. if these accusations SOO ridiculous and unimaginable, tell me, why doesn`t that government simply explain them?

    just like 9-11, if its not true, then explain what is. you can`t? then we have every right to call you a liar.

    and of course the govt. isn`t going to tell us they did it. Ask the kid with a marker standing next to the wall if he drew on it, he`s still going to say no. No matter how solid the evidence is.

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    elyon225 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:02 am
    I thought that it was obvious that we never landed on the moon. All the pictures and footage from the ORIGINAL landing were pathetically doctored. Plenty of motive to fake the landing: the cold war.

    And how is it that we were able to put two people on the moon 50 years ago, but NASA now admits that we do not have the technology to do so right now? Hmm.. makes a thinking man think. Don`t believe everything you see on the news; do your own research, do your own thinking. That includes critiqueing the "conspiracy theories." I`ve looked at both "official" accounts and "conspiracy" accounts of the moon landings and haven`t found ANY logical reason to believe we actually ever walked on the moon.

  55. Profile photo of manorrd
    manorrd Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:12 am
    ^^^lol
    ...and who says the world isn`t flat!
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:14 am
    seen it. it points out some good things, but tbh i dont care if the Americans did or didnt go, it makes no difference in my personal life at all.
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    NeurolRu Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:25 am
    nakoninja:
    You obviously haven`t taken a science class in a while. First of all there are different forms of radiation, some stronger than others. X-rays or gamma rays could easily penetrate a space suit (how do you think it is we can see through skin and muscle when you get an x-ray?) And radiation from a tanning bed has a much larger wavelength, and therefore is less dangerous than being exposed to what is emitted from the radiation belt. Next time think twice before arguing about something you know nothing about.
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    mastercif Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:25 am
    "
    I`ve looked at both "official" accounts and "conspiracy" accounts of the moon landings and haven`t found ANY logical reason to believe we actually ever walked on the moon.
    "
    thats a rather egotistical thing to say, no?

    also, what about Apollo 1 and 13? both of those times something went wrong. First with Apollo one it basically burst into flames killing the astronauts inside, and Apollo 13 where an oxygen tank exploded, and they were barley able to make it back to earth.

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    teph2112 Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:26 am
    sigh..
    It`s almost like:
    "ZOMG THE PRESIDENT PICKED HIS NOSE IT`S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!"
    and then invent some half crack-pot theory that the nose picking was a signal for a political action or something.
  60. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 8:34 am
    And thats not to mention the moon rocks and dust that we have gathered from the moon, and it is confirmed that these rocks could not have been from earth

    and fox4brawl NASA has debunked these conspiracy theories, as posted earlier
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon...
    dont get me wrong however, of course governments have lied and spread propaganda, corporations lobby politicians etc. every nation is guilty of acts like these.

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    marchhare123 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 9:11 am
    I think it is an insult to every astronaut who has lived and died to say we didn`t go to the moon. SO Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldren are liars. I hope you non believers become haunted with the spirits of every dead astronaut and put your time and effort into something worthwhile. freaks
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    BabiiGirl93 Female 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 9:33 am
    Akappy

    Just made mii day =] Thanx!!

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    bazamuffin Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 9:46 am
    This is proof that U.S is full of crap. Probably did it just to say `we got there first, we`re the superior nation blah blah blah`. Why do 90% of conspiracy theories originate from the U.S? Its a Nation full of drama queens, who love nothing more than being the centre of attention, but try proving them wrong and there will be tears before bedtime
  64. Profile photo of BigWaFuu
    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 10:26 am
    people who think the moon landing is fake are uneducated people who believe in conspiracies.

    three retroreflector arrays were left on the Moon by Apollo 11, 14 and 15. Today, anyone on Earth with an appropriate laser and telescope system may bounce laser beams off these devices, verifying deployment of the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment at historically documented Apollo moon landing sites.

    The moon landings were not fake; People are just stupid.

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    Evil_Smurf Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 10:27 am
    I think the US went to the moon, but not necessarily in 1969. Maybe (and emphasis on MAYBE, flamers) they forged the first footage to get their asses in the clear from the ruskies, then went up there to place the flag and make ye olde footprints. But that`s just a theory.
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 10:37 am
    **also googles stephen Colbert**

    dont want to read anything... im sure theres an explenation for all of this...

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    Hansbo Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 10:57 am
    And atheists sunk the Titanic.

    Seriously, I`m the last person to admit that USA did something good, but this is complete and utter bullcrap.

  68. Profile photo of grimm128
    grimm128 Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 11:07 am
    ok, ill tell you what really happened,
    they DID go to the moon but Chuck Norris grabbed onto the side of the rocket and destroyed their video equipment, so they staged the real one, after offering a few astronauts to the big CN to leave them alone, you guys are dumb....
  69. Profile photo of Hypersapien
    Hypersapien Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 11:26 am
    It would be easier to actually go to the moon than it would be to pull off a hoax that big.
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    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 11:34 am
    I believe the reason we didn`t go back is because it was too expensive and we learned what we wanted. The government had a lot more to worry about than gathering more and more moon rocks. Plus Apollo 13 reminded everyone that these missions can go very wrong.

    We don`t have the technology to go back? Yes, we don`t have today`s technology. So are you suggesting we revert back to cold war technology just to go back to the moon? You know, inefficient, dangerous, completely outdated technology? Yes, great argument.

    And about radiation. While it is true that hard X-rays and soft gamma rays will penetrate the hull of a spacecraft, it will also go completely through the human body. You can`t use too energetic X-rays to image the human body because it passes right through the bone. The X-rays must be within a certain range to bypass the cross section of the skin and muscle, but not the cross section of the bone.

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    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 11:37 am
    You may have some damage, a very small chance, due to high energy photons. Most with pass right through the cells and DNA without even interacting with it, so no damage. There are a few that get lucky, i.e. the cataracts, but you need less energetic radiation to cause cancer. For example, UV causes melanoma, prolonged dental X-rays will lead to bone cancer, so on and so forth. A huge percentage of cosmic rays are well above this energy.
  72. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 12:15 pm
    xxmiranda said:
    *sigh*
    Oh, America. A conspiracy theroist`s playground.
    bazamuffin said:
    " Why do 90% of conspiracy theories originate from the U.S? Its a Nation full of drama queens"

    Yeah, because that guy`s English accent screams American. Bazamuffin, you need to educate yourself on logical falicies, specifically making hasty generalizations.

    Now, I don`t doubt the US landed on the moon. That said, there is a good reason to fake the moon landing - ITS CHEAPER.

    Hypersapien said it would be easier to actually go there than fake it; I disagree. Which is cheaper, a high quality movie or launching a saturn 5 rocket to the moon?

    The laser reflectors could have been placed there remotely - that doesn`t prove men put them there.

    But, that scene where the astronaught was getting helped up and it looked weird - those space suits are very rigid, and as he was lifted by his left arm, it lifted his left side.

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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2007 at 12:17 pm
    To anyone in this thread that took this as an opportunity to spout off about your inferiority complex with regards to America, THIS GUY WAS ENGLISH!!!!!!
  74. Profile photo of Kyur
    Kyur Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 12:30 pm
    I don`t even think the moon exists. The government brainwashed us all using microchips they implant into us at birth just to believe there is one and always has been. It`s simple, even if they showed up in test the government would just have the switch tell us it`s not there.

    Lol, well there is my rant hoping to scare more stupid people who still care about the governments lieing to us. Yes governments, they all are liers. They are just trying to keep us calm and happy. What would you rather hear, that everything you thought was true is a lie and that now you should question everything or that we landed on the moon, aliens aren`t real and that JFK wasn`t killed my the gov?

    Not that I believe in any of that and even if I did there isn`t anything we can do about it. Just be happy that we have a government. If not you would be stupid, poor and probably dead by now.

    All I can say is... HYPERSPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE!!!

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    03myersd Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 12:36 pm
    OMG.... If I see these so called `experts` one more time. The landings were REAL. The one where the astronaut gets up with the aid of a wire looks like that because its old footage from training where they did use a wire. If you look around you can find it all.
  76. Profile photo of Saragato
    Saragato Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2007 at 12:45 pm
    Oh stop with the BS debate.

    Jesus, only in America do people think the moon landing was fake and wrestling is real.

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    bordarboy Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 1:55 pm
    *sigh* finally a video to prove to you idiots that the moon landing was faked. i mean in real life they would have sunk into the gorgonzola and been eaten by clangers
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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 1:58 pm
    It is extremely likely that the US landed on the moon, but I wasn`t there and I`m not going to make any assumptions without more convincing proof than a video and some equipment left on the moon.
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    tp12 Male 13-17
    107 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 2:02 pm
    ... wow... to be posting here... i am truly bored.
    anyways... we have the technology to blow the moon up but not to land on it. how likely.
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    NOFX14 Male 18-29
    1141 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 2:04 pm
    wow this is a load of crap. people only buy into this stuff and stuff like loose change because conspiracies are fun and controversial and exciting. we landed on the moon geesh.
  81. Profile photo of Idolish
    Idolish Male 18-29
    6 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 2:17 pm
    Most americans are idiots, the US government faked it so it looked like they had power over the russians who were also trying to be first on the moon, there is a lot of proof that it was fake.

    Why does the flag move when they put it up? There is no atmoshphere on the moon to make it move,
    You never see stars in any photos, yes I know, the flash gets rid of stars, but in videos why do you never see any. Take a look at some of the shadows in different video clips, you have one shadow going one way and another shadow facing the other direction, there is only one source for light, that is the sun, wich means they would have had to have extra sources of light, Like studio cameras

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    LadyAlathia Female 18-29
    151 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 2:40 pm
    THANK you Idolish.

    Simple logic - WHERE IS THE AIR? something`s making the flag blow in the gentle breeze.

    I would love to believe we landed on the moon. Really. I`m a huge geek, and the idea that some future offspring of my offspring may life on a moon colony makes me tingle with joy... but the logic isn`t there. No stars, flag blowing in the breeze, people magically flying... Sure, on the moon you`ll feel light on your feet... but I`ve never seen a 25 pound baby fly whilst walking. It might make you clumsy at most... but those bouncy steps are too much.

  83. Profile photo of jmk4422
    jmk4422 Male 18-29
    134 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 2:49 pm
    *yawn* I thought all the people who used to blather on about this supposed conspiracy had graduated middle school by now and had learned better. For those of you who give any credence to these ridiculous, raving insanities (which seem to always be read by English-accented, professor looking guys... has anyone else noticed that?) I give you the Bad Astronomy website: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxap...

    Watch your conspiracies end.

  84. Profile photo of catsrule313
    catsrule313 Female 13-17
    393 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:02 pm
    HERES PROOF THAT THEY WERE REAL: 1: you can`t stage REFLECTIONS in HELMETS!!!!(look at neil armstrong`s pic.) 2. You can`t create fake moon stuff 3. HOW DID WE GET SAMPLES FROM THE MOON??
  85. Profile photo of beeeeen
    beeeeen Male 13-17
    219 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:04 pm
    you seriously think they spent billions on a few wires? get real.
  86. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
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    November 26, 2007 at 3:07 pm
    "Now I`m not pointing to conspiracy here, but the one thing that I never understood is why did they stop after Apollo 17? Too much physical and financial commitment? Not worth any more trips since they collected enough data?

    As of today, there hasn`t been another moon landing since 1972, and the next moon mission (Orion 17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_17) is planned for 2019. Now we did land in 1969 - given the limited technology compared to today, so what gives? Did such valuable knowledge get lost through the generations that we can`t do it now?

    And one other issue that bothers me is that why did Russia all of a sudden stop? Was it just because that America got there first, and they all of sudden give up? I find that difficult to beleive."


    Well, from what i learned, russia stopped around the time the US got to the moon, maybe even before that... the US stopped going to the moon because the pu

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    thetoastking Male 18-29
    625 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:14 pm
    ugh heard it all before. this proves nothing, its just another crazy conspiracy theory made by retards who have nothing better to do
  88. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
    1204 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    "
    Most americans are idiots, the US government faked it so it looked like they had power over the russians who were also trying to be first on the moon, there is a lot of proof that it was fake.

    Why does the flag move when they put it up? There is no atmoshphere on the moon to make it move,
    You never see stars in any photos, yes I know, the flash gets rid of stars, but in videos why do you never see any. Take a look at some of the shadows in different video clips, you have one shadow going one way and another shadow facing the other direction, there is only one source for light, that is the sun, wich means they would have had to have extra sources of light, Like studio cameras"

    Well, the earth reflects light, like the moon reflecting light to earth, the earth does it back to the moon. Otherwise, it would be pitch black at night (well, if there weren`t street lights and all). About the flag waving, technically, they moved the flag, and if they moved it, it will wave,

  89. Profile photo of caboose117
    caboose117 Male 13-17
    1204 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:16 pm
    and it won`t stop waving for a while due to low gravity...
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    thetoastking Male 18-29
    625 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:16 pm
    it actually angers me that some people, alot of children for instance believe this crap alot of hard work was put into it
  91. Profile photo of Dodo-
    Dodo- Male 18-29
    144 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:23 pm
    here we go again..., Check the counter arguments on this too then decide.. Always check 2 sides of a story, and yeah it could be staged. whooooooooooooooo
  92. Profile photo of nakoninja
    nakoninja Male 18-29
    354 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:42 pm
    neruol first when they go through the radiation belt they are not in there space suits alone. they are in their spaceship that is sheiled from the radiation to a great degree. also the radiation belt is so weak that it could not cause cancer and is not strong enough to penetrate the ship completely. you are more at risk with a tanning bed than they radiation belt considering in one you have great protection but the other is unfiltered straight to you skin.
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    nakoninja Male 18-29
    354 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 3:44 pm
    idolish when you touch something does it move? they are touching the flag to set it up so of course it will move. however as soon as they stop touching it it nor longer moves and maintains the wave in it because there is nothing to change the shape of it.
  94. Profile photo of AKappy
    AKappy Male 18-29
    2616 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:04 pm
    It`s blatantly obvious that the moon landings were real. Didn`t you see the astronauts on the moon in that video? IDIOTS!
  95. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:07 pm
    "HERES PROOF THAT THEY WERE REAL: 1: you can`t stage REFLECTIONS in HELMETS!!!!(look at neil armstrong`s pic.) 2. You can`t create fake moon stuff 3. HOW DID WE GET SAMPLES FROM THE MOON??"

    1. yeah you can. most games nowadays have reflections
    2. yeah you can. it`s not like we don`t know the moons not made of dried up rock
    3. if the govt says they have it, and the govt. says they went to the moon, couldn`t it be possible the govt lied =O twice?!

    I can`t believe the amount of people who think that conspiracy theory believers are a bunch of idiots. I mean seriously, i`m not saying it was a fake, but there`s a strong chance it just didn`t happen. & judging by the evidence presented in this and other videos, things just don`t add up.

    I see a lot of people saying:
    "we spent a lot of money on that!"
    "...a lot of hard work on that!"

    First of all, who is "we?" If the govt did happen to stage it, isn`t it possible they aren`t lyin

  96. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:08 pm
    lying* to cover up the lies?

    Liars have a tendency to lie again.

  97. Profile photo of Trexa
    Trexa Female 18-29
    283 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:09 pm
    I <3 conspiracy theorists. They are so drating funny.

    Oh, by the way, the sky isn`t really blue. They just want you to think it is.

  98. Profile photo of shinu
    shinu Male 18-29
    1387 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:24 pm
    how would he know? has HE been to the moon? exactly.
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    Roduku Male 50-59
    459 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:26 pm
    Anyone who thinks that our government- or any government, for that matter- would spend years on research and billions of dollars to design, develop and build the world`s most powerful rocket, train flight crews and ground support personnel and launch three men into space to do nothing for 10 days just so they can show faked footage is unbelievably dense.
  100. Profile photo of iansquall
    iansquall Female 18-29
    601 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:26 pm
    My dad believes this 100%. Then again, he also believes in chem trails, the whole govt being involved with 9/11, etc etc etc. I don`t know his views on aliens but I can pretty much assume what he believes on that one.

    As for me, I don`t give two shi*ts. If the govt really wastes their time doing that, then that`s sadder than my brother playing Runescape 24/7.

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    pea_ooter Male 13-17
    986 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:30 pm
    forgive Imeagla.... he`s drunk.... he just said it.... or maybe hes a retard.... why say you`re drunk when youre trying to proove something...
  102. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:39 pm
    This is as idiotic as the 9/11 conspiracy. There are a few facts related to both:

    1. Somehow, the government can keep thousands of employees/rescue workers/etc. quiet and execute these plans with military precision, yet can`t shut down the groups that come up with these conspiracies?

    2. Since we`ve established that the gov`t would be willing to kill thousands of innocent civilians in order to pull off such a plan, why the hell is this guy still alive? Surely he would be killed within days, if not hours of putting forth these ideas.

    I`m not a Bush-fapping Republican junkie nor a NASA employee, but this is just ludicrous in the extreme.

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    GoldenClock Male 18-29
    22 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:42 pm
    I really can`t stand conspiracy theorists and their flimsy `evidence`.
    All the evidence these moon conspiracy theorists come up with can be debunked with even a basic knowledge of science.
    I remember back in the day, Fox aired a special about how the moon landing was faked. Everything they gave as an argument was very easily proven false.
    Also, about the flag movement thing. If they were in a studio, where would the wind come from? I doubt they`d have fans on set. The flag moved only when the astronauts were moving it.

    Dippoos, I swear.

  104. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:44 pm
    In any case, stars could not be seen because the Moon has an atmosphere. NEWS FLASH, IDIOTS: The same gravity that keeps a HUMAN CARRING 200LBS OF GEAR on the Moon can sure as hell keep enough dust down to blot out stars!
  105. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:46 pm
    Oh, and Caboose117- How the hell are you typing? You got carpal tunnel from playing too many videogames. You told me you can`t even read a book, yet here you are, typing away...
  106. Profile photo of Groogle
    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:49 pm
    The trouble with this story is that it`s irrelevant today.

    The russian governement that was competing with the USA for the moon landing dont even exist anymore... it`s a different governement now and they`re happy that the USA got the lead because they`re friend with them.

    It was fake... get over it.

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    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:51 pm
    Beside, if you want to slap someone in the face for what they did you will need to dig up a grave or two.

    I bet they`re going to open the door of area 51 to the public eyes soon... just without the ufo`s and all ( They`re going to move that stuff somewhere else if it`s not already done ).

  108. Profile photo of GoldenClock
    GoldenClock Male 18-29
    22 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:54 pm
    You know, Area 51 could be just a part of government misinformation for all we know. Letting all the weirdos think everything is there, while all the secret weapons stuff is being made a thousand miles away.
  109. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 4:59 pm
    Exactly what I suspect. Why tell the people that they DON`T have alien technology and the like?

    But Groogle, you completely forgot the fact that billions of dollars were shunted from social services and diverted to going to the moon.

    And what about Mars? Is it A-OK in your mind that NASA is planning to send people to Mars when they haven`t even gone to the Moon?

  110. Profile photo of marilizeit
    marilizeit Male 18-29
    41 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:02 pm
    the moon landing video was photo shopped, i can tell by the moon pixels.
  111. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:03 pm
    1. Somehow, the government can keep thousands of employees/rescue workers/etc. quiet and execute these plans with military precision, yet can`t shut down the groups that come up with these conspiracies?

    2. Since we`ve established that the gov`t would be willing to kill thousands of innocent civilians in order to pull off such a plan, why the hell is this guy still alive? Surely he would be killed within days, if not hours of putting forth these ideas.

    1. who`s staying quiet? these theories have to come from somewhere
    2. it`d be far too obvious

  112. Profile photo of Virtualgoose
    Virtualgoose Male 13-17
    44 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:08 pm
    The earth is actually surrounded by a thick layer of cardboard. No one has actually been in outer space, and the sun and stars are just light bulbs...


    pah.

  113. Profile photo of Qhoss
    Qhoss Male 13-17
    247 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:17 pm
    US landed on the moon, Oswald killed Kennedy, there is no conspiracy theory behind 9/11.
  114. Profile photo of USArmy3
    USArmy3 Male 18-29
    180 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:17 pm
    What I don`t get is why people are trying to say that everything the USA does is a lie.

    Why insult the government thats keeping your sorry ass free?

    Just my opinion.

  115. Profile photo of zoinks
    zoinks Male 13-17
    437 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:26 pm
    by the way did you guys know that Canada is a consipricy? ya it was made up by the goverment. ther is really no such place, the only thing up there is the artic ocean and greenland
  116. Profile photo of patriotpappy
    patriotpappy Male 50-59
    756 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:28 pm
    USArmy3, I like your opinion.
  117. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:56 pm
    Because freedom shouldn`t have a price to pay.

    freedom or not, we have the right to know what goes on, why it happened, and an explanation behind it.

    Freedom for a price isn`t right

  118. Profile photo of spartan448
    spartan448 Male 18-29
    43 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 5:57 pm
    OK get the hell over it people, nothing was staged at all.
    All these conspiracy nuts just make the world an even worse place.

    Find something else to do with your time, like making your own discovery or doing something great, rather than trying to discredit everyone else

  119. Profile photo of yum
    yum Male 18-29
    8 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:06 pm
    simpler explanation to the "wires": ever hear of there was no such thing as high def back then
    lol, wires...what will the come up with next
  120. Profile photo of Standards
    Standards Male 18-29
    564 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:08 pm
    manorrd,
    I don`t know if your joking or not. Quite honestly to me, I think the landing was real. But that was some kickass reasoning.
  121. Profile photo of timemaster20
    timemaster20 Male 18-29
    88 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:20 pm
    we don`t have enough money!!! the US might but not NASA..god damnit..how hard is that!! and who gives a poo its the moon! we don`t need to go there again..theres nothing there!
  122. Profile photo of coranthulle
    coranthulle Male 30-39
    466 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:27 pm
    Ok so, here is one that makes me wonder... With all the consiperacy nazi`s out there spouting all kinds of garbage. Why hasnt NASA released pictures of the remains of lunar landings. I go to a website that is hosted by nasa everyday. Its a picture of the day site that they put together. Everyday they have some cool pics of stars and nebulae, they even get some pretty breathtaking pictures of the moon from time to time, but not once have they ever posted a picture showing the lunar surface and the old sites with the left over lunar lander legs, the lunarmobile, and the Flag. It would be extermely easy to point a multimillion dollar telescope at the moon and snap a picture to put them all to rest. Chances are though that people would probably call them fake too.
  123. Profile photo of coranthulle
    coranthulle Male 30-39
    466 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:34 pm
    Timemaster; we are going back to set up a staging point for exploring Mars. Once there we are going to try and set up a base for staging to the Jovian Planets (Jupiter and Saturn) so that we can explore their moons with manned missions. Possibly even terraform Mars as a second home. The key will be mining asteroids and other large celestial rocks full of iron, gold, silver, and platinum. The processing of which should occur on the moon so as not to potentially contaminate the earth with biological hazards hiding in those rocks. Not to mention the low gravity makes it wonderfully easier to move such huge loads like 100 meter asteroids and meteorites.
  124. Profile photo of Lord_Savior
    Lord_Savior Male 18-29
    177 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:55 pm
    Fox4Brawl, while I will agree to you that the government has lied, or atleast told half truths, your a f.u.c.k.i.n.g idiot. Why don`t they confront such accusations? Because after spending 30 billion dollars and years of time trying to send man to the moon, why the f.u.c.k should that answer to A) A d.a.m.n 15 year old and B) Crack pot conspirorists? When you get done potty training and learning your ABC`s try to think up a nice good answer for that between feeding time and nappy time skippy.
  125. Profile photo of LadyAlathia
    LadyAlathia Female 18-29
    151 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 6:57 pm
    USArmy3

    Define "free" for me, would ya? Free from what?

    If we have freedom of speech and the press... why is there censorship? if we have freedom of religion, why was I put in detention for praying in school and reading the bible during the school assigned "free" reading period? If we have freedom from government searches of our personal property without a warrant, why does the Patriot act exist?

    Tell me, anyone... what EXACTLY makes America "Free"?

  126. Profile photo of Lord_Savior
    Lord_Savior Male 18-29
    177 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:06 pm
    Fox4Brawl (Sorry Ladies and Gents, reading and posting as I go) just...just shut up. I dont know whether its teenage angst or you got this from your parents, but DONT breed. And before you go ahead post your to your hearts content, know what your posting about. Freedom for a price isn`t right? You mean the lives traded for it? It`d be nice to have the right to everything that goes on and an explanation for it, but *no*! We are not fortunate enough to have the right. And dont go pulling human or natural rights out of your ass. The government tells us what it does out of courtousy for the public. While it certainly would piss plenty of people off, they could go and not tell us jack squat! Plug a toaster into a socket and take a bath with it.
  127. Profile photo of BlondeStar_
    BlondeStar_ Female 13-17
    7 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:07 pm
    There are so many conspiracies going around about everything...No one knows what the real truth is, soon all these conspiracies will be in school textbooks.
  128. Profile photo of Stentorian
    Stentorian Male 13-17
    425 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:07 pm
    Idolish: "Most americans are idiots..."

    And most Canadians are whiny pus*ies.

    See, massive generalizations are stupid.

    Fox4Brawl: "Because freedom shouldn`t have a price to pay."

    Freedom is $1.05.

    Everyone knows that.

    And about this conspiracy, I really don`t think arguing will change many opinions. Some conspiracy-theorists wouldn`t believe that the moon landing was real if they were personally invited to return to the moon and view remains of the landing.

  129. Profile photo of Lord_Savior
    Lord_Savior Male 18-29
    177 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:08 pm
    I-Am-Bored has reached a surplus a bull s.h.i.t. Any further contributions may be donated to another facility. Thank you.

    Idiots piss me off.

  130. Profile photo of Idolish
    Idolish Male 18-29
    6 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:16 pm
    After watching the 1 hour documentary on the moon landing being fake wich was on fox. I now believe it is true.

    THere is alot of evidence.
    like there being no blast crator under the landers, Or when they blast back up away from the moon, there is no dust on any of the legs of the lander either.. You dont think that jets would have blasted away some dust?

  131. Profile photo of eleutherarch
    eleutherarch Female 13-17
    1002 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:17 pm
    Why the hell did someone suddenly decide that it was faked?
    Yeesh, it really doesn`t matter.
    I wanted to punch that guy...
    And wtf was with that portal scene?
  132. Profile photo of Idolish
    Idolish Male 18-29
    6 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:17 pm
    And if they really did land on the moon, where is the bottom half of the lander that in the videos was left behind? You dont think some of our telescopes now can see it lying on the moons surface
  133. Profile photo of MechBFP
    MechBFP Male 18-29
    813 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:18 pm
    ^Man, read the first 5 pages of comments before making yourself look so stupid. I should start making videos like this, then I can laugh at all the retards when I tell them the whole video I made was fake. They would just be like "o...".
  134. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:21 pm
    Freedom isn`t free. We know that. But if we live in a state where the government lies and controls what the people know, then we aren`t free. That`s not just a price. Of course, using the same logical reasoning, I could also argue that the price of fine dining is that you buy from McDonald`s...

    LadyAlathia hits the nail on the head. The U.S. isn`t special. There isn`t a truly free nation on Earth- the definition of such is anarchy.

  135. Profile photo of kobesteak
    kobesteak Male 13-17
    16 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:23 pm
    i believe that they are real and a lot of the people who think its fake are from Russia which sucks since it has never recovered from communism and is hella poor and Brittan which is cool dose not have a space program is jealous for ours
  136. Profile photo of kobesteak
    kobesteak Male 13-17
    16 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:23 pm
    im gonna get blammed the hell out of for this right?
  137. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:39 pm
    yes, ^ your an idiot for saying such things ^

    but I agree w you about this vid being total bs. Another repugnant post from fanclylad. Truly I would have ratehr clicked on an ad.

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    icantthink41 Male 18-29
    350 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:52 pm
    ...pretty convincing I must say
  139. Profile photo of CheesyQueso
    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
    2196 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 7:52 pm
    wth i got linked to circuit city cameras
  140. Profile photo of T3h-Wraith
    T3h-Wraith Male 13-17
    645 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:04 pm
    Real, Fake, I don`t give a sh*t. Link was boring.
  141. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:09 pm
    "Why does the flag move when they put it up? There is no atmoshphere on the moon to make it move, "

    you`re a flaming idiot
    thats exactly a reason that shows we DID land on the moon, the flag was originally ruffled up while unfolding it, and has kept the exact same shape for years
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:As11-...
    the flag kept the exact same shape in both of these landings
    also, check these out
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aldri...
    and
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aldri...
    Buzz Aldrin moves, however the flag does not

  142. Profile photo of basketkase
    basketkase Male 18-29
    1183 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:11 pm
    Fox4Brawl thats false logic the government doesn`t have to explain them you have to disprove them
  143. Profile photo of CheesyQueso
    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
    2196 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:23 pm
    dammit people stop using wikipedia as a proof source anyone can write anything on that site
  144. Profile photo of CheesyQueso
    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
    2196 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:31 pm
    wth i got linked to circuit city cameras
  145. Profile photo of emmaisms
    emmaisms Female 13-17
    20 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 8:49 pm
    "Fox4Brawl: `Because freedom shouldn`t have a price to pay.`Freedom is $1.05."
    poo I just bought freedom for 20 bucks on ebay. Curse you eBay!
    My opinion on this whole thing:
    I don`t really care because I haven`t gotten to go there. For now it`s just that pretty rock in the sky made of cheese. It is made of cheese right? haha jk.XD

  146. Profile photo of medic1971
    medic1971 Male 30-39
    200 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:05 pm
    If anyone thinks the moon landing was faked... PLEASE ,for the love of God, go out and get a life and join the real world. Or go to school and get an education
  147. Profile photo of icelover
    icelover Female 13-17
    215 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:06 pm
    I AM GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE AND ONLY ONCE:

    the first landing on the moon was real.
    Point1- no atmosphere= no dust leving moon
    point2- flickering (aka `stage` ^_^) was old camera film were not used to
    Point3- THIS GUY JUST WANTS FAME FOR PROVING ITS `FAKE`

    EVERYONE WHO AGREES WITH HIM..I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY-


    SUCK IT UP_ DEAL WITH IT_ITS REAL_LIVE WITH IT!

    ^____________________________________________^

  148. Profile photo of eatspaste
    eatspaste Male 13-17
    64 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:17 pm
    pretty cool, i <3 conspiracy theories
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    Fuego Male 40-49
    1287 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:18 pm
    holy crap what a lot of bullpoo has been cast in the field today. I`m just sorry the video isn`t available anymore. I`d love to know what has everyone`s knickers in a twist.

    That`s one, IAB

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    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:33 pm
    ahh Lord Savior... tsk tsk.

    im wondering if you`ve ever heard "threats/name calling over the internet are for fags?" kind of like winning the special olympics. ok, win, your still a retard.

    why the f.u.c.k should that answer to A) A d.a.m.n 15 year old and B) Crack pot conspirorists? When you get done potty training and learning your ABC`s try to think up a nice good answer for that between feeding time and nappy time skippy.

    A. Because it`s my 15 year old a.s.s. who`s gunna end up putting their a.s.s.e.s. in office. I am the future. Your obviously not doing that much good, maybe I can.

    B. Heard of "freedom of speech?"

    Seriously. If you really think this is all absolutely fake, your going to need the potty training once you s.h.i.t yourself.

    and "go ladyalathia!" she`s a good example of what our beloved government allows.

  151. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:41 pm
    The government tells us what it does out of courtousy for the public. While it certainly would piss plenty of people off, they could go and not tell us jack squat! Plug a toaster into a socket and take a bath with it.

    ignoring the last creative sentence, no they couldn`t tell us nothing. Why? it`s called a damn democracy. don`t tell us anything? fine, they`re out. Unfortuntely, there are enough stubborn ignorant people in the united states that simply cannot understand a world where things don`t add up. once again, i am the future. i will have the right to vote, the right to express my opinion as i please, and your gunna have to put up with it.

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    Tjames Male 18-29
    294 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:45 pm
    Of course its fake! there is no gravity on the moon they would just FLY OFF!!!!!
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    Neagle Male 30-39
    1405 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 9:52 pm
    I just want to deck this guy in his own local pub. What a d-bag!
  154. Profile photo of SamusRules
    SamusRules Male 18-29
    13 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:29 pm
    I don`t understand why people feel the need to completely undermine the government. This was way back when we were at war with the Soviet Union for crying out loud! People were down and needed some hope. So we beat the Soviets in the Space race. Even if the moon landing was a fake, which is highly unlikely, the government used this footage to boost everyone`s spirits.
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    SamusRules Male 18-29
    13 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:30 pm
    Tjames, you are retarted.
  156. Profile photo of things1056
    things1056 Male 18-29
    1 post
    November 26, 2007 at 10:32 pm
    I find most conspiracy theories to be quite ridiculous. It`s a fact that the government can`t keep a secret. Clinton can`t cover up a blowjob and Nixon can`t cover up a hotel break-in. Covering up something like this would be unfathomably difficult for the government.
  157. Profile photo of RuneSpider
    RuneSpider Male 18-29
    12 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:48 pm
    The leftovers from the moon landing can be seen with a telescope, for the person who asked earlier. Not a big astronomy fan, so I can`t tell you where to find it.
    To me personally, a lot of the leftovers could be faked if you want it to be, or it could be proof if you want it to be.
    With pretty much any conspiracy theory, the only way way to convice either party is to have them witness the actual events, and even then, there would be people who would have doubts. The fact is, none of us were there, and until commercial flights are available, heck even afterwards, people won`t believe that we originally landed on the moon. By we, I meant US.
    As for the person who mentioned earlier the bugs the earlier missions had, it was the newest tech, there were bugs. The reason why the one exploded was due to a high oxygen content, a spark occurred and the entire thing went up.
    We can sit around and argue until we are blue in the face, but the fact is we won`t have any new concl
  158. Profile photo of manorrd
    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:55 pm
    On 11/26/2007 6:57:10 PM LadyAlathia wrote: Define "free" for me, would ya? Free from what?

    If we have freedom of speech and the press... why is there censorship? if we have freedom of religion, why was I put in detention for praying in school and reading the bible during the school assigned "free" reading period? If we have freedom from government searches of our personal property without a warrant, why does the Patriot act exist?

    Tell me, anyone... what EXACTLY makes America "Free"?
    Wow. This speaks volumes.

    Here`s someone who`s been born into freedom, grew up in freedom, and never known anything but freedom...so much so that she doesn`t even know what it is. It`s all she knows, and has no idea what it`s like to live in a world without it.

    Sorry, I know this is supposed to be about Apollo conspiracies, but wow.

    Go rent an apartment in, say, North Korea or Myanmar or Eritrea for 6 months. I think you`ll get a pretty good ide

  159. Profile photo of angrytick
    angrytick Male 13-17
    194 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:57 pm
    its all the Americans trying 2 get us to believe that they ACTUALLY got to the moon but they didn`t and now there embarrassed that everyone knows.
  160. Profile photo of Lost_In_Time
    Lost_In_Time Male 18-29
    317 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 10:58 pm
    "Of course its fake! there is no gravity on the moon they would just FLY OFF!!!!!"

    That was the greatest comment ever made IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I applaud you for making my night slightly more enjoyable.

  161. Profile photo of sunglasses
    sunglasses Female 13-17
    46 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 11:44 pm
    If you don`t like America, go ahead and leave. I know many people who are willing to take your place. Go live in North Korea, China, Africa, the Middle East, etc. if America is such BS. America (since this is the main nation being discussed at the moment) has many freedoms and people are taking it for granted. Yes, there is the censorship and those things that are a pain in the @$$ but that occurs if another one`s freedom is broken like one`s right to not hear trash talk. Sorry for getting a bit off topic but it was really getting on my last nerve. Thanks for making me all up in serious mode. *rolls eyes* jk

    OMG! Thank you Tjames for making my night happier. Hahaha! I hope you were joking though. LOL.

    Conspiracy theories. Fun to make and but sometimes fake. YAY, I`m a poet. jk jk. On a slightly more serious note, I fine it really ironic that the theories are about ourselves and government but that`s just me.....and I doubt anyone cares. ^^;; Oh well.

  162. Profile photo of Cashcleaner
    Cashcleaner Male 18-29
    319 posts
    November 26, 2007 at 11:51 pm
    Imeagla, I`ve noticed you never answered my question.

    Still waiting on that one.

  163. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:01 am
    "One Small step for Man, one Giant Leap for *Mankind*".

    Not American Kind, Mankind. This mission might have been an aspect of the American space race, but the Astronauts understood that this accomplishment wasn`t billeted to Americans, it was dedicated to all of humanity.

    I am so grateful for the fact that the people doing this insanely dangerous Job understand that with each incremental step humanity takes forward everyone benefits.

    Right now in the I.S.S, which you can see with the Naked Eye on a clear night, there are American and Russian Astronauts working together on an International Scientific Venture sponsored by multiple government agencies. Having people advocate this inane fallacy discredits the hardships they have endured and continue to endure.

    The truth of the Lunar Landings is that The Human Race accomplished something that will be celebrated by historians the world over as long as there is a civilization on earth capable of thought.

  164. Profile photo of Novem006
    Novem006 Female 18-29
    700 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:02 am
    whatever, we landed on the moon. It was not staged. people are just always trying to make other people look bad. end of story.
  165. Profile photo of Mandikins
    Mandikins Female 13-17
    147 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:30 am
    Imeagla, I am APPALLED by your statement against both Stephen Colbert and AKappy.

    They both speak nothing but complete and utter TRUTHINESS.

  166. Profile photo of Lost_In_Time
    Lost_In_Time Male 18-29
    317 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:30 am
    I watched a 2-hour special on the History channel about the landing on the moon. It aired the original footage unedited from the live broadcast, as well as an hour long show of something that went along the lines of this video. In my honest opinion, I believe the moon landing was real, however you are all entitled to your own opinions. Good luck arguing against each other. :-D
  167. Profile photo of rem132
    rem132 Female 30-39
    35 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:30 am
    okay for all you brainiacs calling us believers basically nutty..How come since the sixties we can only barely get the space shuttle to orbit like a satelite,,yet in the sixties hey the moon no problemo,,we should be to pluto by now at that rate and then end the discussion on if it is a planet or not.
  168. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:38 am
    "
    dammit people stop using wikipedia as a proof source anyone can write anything on that site
    "
    no, its not, people like you have probably never even been to Wikipedia or even cared to look at the article, first off Wikipedia is heavily regulated, try it with an article, delete the whole thing or sabotage it in some way, and i guarantee you that within a few seconds the article will be exactly as it was before, I`ve tried this myself. Secondly, the article cites over 115 sources, so if that doesn`t show that the genuineness of an article, i don`t know what will. In that case then the encyclopedia Britannica is fake too.
  169. Profile photo of MechBFP
    MechBFP Male 18-29
    813 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 12:40 am
    rem132, you have no idea what the phrase `light years` means, do you? No, you don`t have to answer, everyone already knows the answer. Trust me.
  170. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:04 am
    "
    .How come since the sixties we can only barely get the space shuttle to orbit like a satelite,
    "

    "
    ,yet in the sixties hey the moon no problemo,,we should be to pluto by now at that rate and then end the discussion on if it is a planet or not.
    "
    thats just an outlandish and inconsiderate thing to say. Do any research about the history of how we got to the moon and NASA failed so many times while it was trying to get a probe to the moon, over 33 times where the rocket basically would go up and either burst into flames or crash back down. And then on the first Apollo mission the rocket burst into flames and killed all of the astronauts inside. To say that the moon landing was "no problemo" is ridiculous. For all of you conspiracy theorists out ther go outside for once and visit the Kennedy space center in Florida and find out all about the moon landing firsthand, and how much poo NASA had to do to get there, including videos of countless r

  171. Profile photo of RuneSpider
    RuneSpider Male 18-29
    12 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:06 am
    REM132
    HEM! HAW!
    I can`t make a good statement here. Your just not worth it.
  172. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:23 am
    for everyone acting like there are americans here who hate america, chill. im sure as hell glad i live here, and i wouldnt want to be anywhere else. but as an american we are "guaranteed" our rights. if our govt. is "lying" to us, they should either just tell the truth or justify the "lies."

    And for everyone ripping on the conspiricists, if the govt would just answer the questions, there wouldn`t be as many.

    I never said we never landed on the moon. and im sorry if you mis-interpreted me, but i have my doubts, and those doubts will not be cleared up until i get answers.

  173. Profile photo of IAmTheMoose
    IAmTheMoose Male 18-29
    1343 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:23 am
    yup. just another bunch of over-the-hill scientists trying to make something of themselves after a lifetime of no real accomplishment.

    way off topic here. pluto should be a planet, yo.

  174. Profile photo of sunglasses
    sunglasses Female 13-17
    46 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 1:51 am
    Fox4Brawl, that comment was not necessarily targeted towards you. I`m really sorry if it appeared that way. I wrote that comment after a friend and I had a long discussion about the government. I hope that explains why I was fired up at the moment. ^^; I really don`t mean to

    I too have some doubts on the moon landing (who doesn`t*) but for the most part and evidence I`ve seen, my intuition tells me that the moon landing did take place.

    Pluto IS a planet.....it`s a dwarf planet actually. Maybe its some planet heredity thingy or maybe it is actually a moon of Jupiter....the world may never know....

    *My friend and I were talking and I came up with a hypothesis that if human brains are imperfect, then human cannot establish truth fully. For example, you smile at a friend and you friend smiled back. A while passes and did you really smile? Was it a lapse of thought? Did that really happen? It`s debatable. Like this moon landing thing. Don`t flame now please. It`s only a hypothesis. ^^

  175. Profile photo of banana_benda
    banana_benda Male 40-49
    144 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 2:01 am
    The moon landings were real. I was there at the time.
  176. Profile photo of Usernameless
    Usernameless Male 18-29
    41 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 2:27 am
    I couldn`t read all the comments because my internet is really slow today, but I kind of go in the middle of this. They can prove that we landed on the moon, but theirs nothing to say about the footage. It could be one of these senarios of us landing their and faking some or all of the footage and photos.
    #1. we landed on the moon at a later date because of some sort of tecnical problems or something. most likely weeks or months later, maybe a year at the very most.
    #2. The film was destroyed from radiation or whatever
    #3. The cameras wouldn`t work properly
  177. Profile photo of Evil_Fungus
    Evil_Fungus Male 13-17
    15 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 2:48 am
    No. The first landing was fake.
    See the flag?
    When was the last time you saw WIND on the moon?
    How can you have WIND with NO atmosphere?
  178. Profile photo of magicalToast
    magicalToast Female 13-17
    17 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 3:02 am
    ^^^They already answered this in the comments. 6_6 Of course the flag is going to move because the people had to move the flag. And yes, there is no wind on the moon because of lack of atmosphere. It`s better explained somewhere in the comments here.

    Hmmm...on a side note, is Solar wind a possibility? Any takers? Or is the sun to far away for that? I would really like to know. Please and thank you. ^-^

  179. Profile photo of coranthulle
    coranthulle Male 30-39
    466 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 3:16 am
    any solar wind that would move the flag as though it were flapping in a breeze would have to be one of two things.

    1) the material of the flag is lighter than air or near it.

    2) the solar wind to make most flags of normal material would have to be so great that the radiation from the wind would fry the guy inside his suit standing next to it.

    Solar winds are generated from the radiation flying of from bands of flares from the corona. these winds at distances like our earth from the sun would be so weak that it wouldnt register on most monitoring devices. Only special magnetometers would be able to register it. But under rare circumstances like solar flares that wind radiation is propelled at such a great velocity with so much more mass that it will actually be able to inflate extremely light weight materials with an air like quality. The material most commonly used for such an item is Mylar, its extremely light weight yet solid enough to withstand being torn apart

  180. Profile photo of Idolish
    Idolish Male 18-29
    6 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 4:45 am
    in the videos they werent touching the damn flag, they were holding the pole trying to put it in the ground.

    The flag was not touched but it was moving quickly back and forth in the air

  181. Profile photo of Oshidutako
    Oshidutako Male 18-29
    272 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 4:52 am
    Some other proof is the stars. Where are they? Guess they forgot to draw in the stars.

    And for those of you giving links to wikipedia as proof are idiots. It can be edited at anytime by anyone, including the goverment.

  182. Profile photo of unknownbeing
    unknownbeing Male 13-17
    298 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 5:53 am
    Wow all of you, shut up and stop caring, srsly what do you care wether they landed on the moon, i doubt they changed you life in any way so stop this nutty debate and get over it.

    P.S the government lies

  183. Profile photo of catbarf
    catbarf Male 18-29
    1455 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 6:22 am
    http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/n...

    Don`t. Use. Wikipedia.

  184. Profile photo of Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Male 18-29
    223 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 7:08 am
    Ugh. People making such god points on both sides. I don`t know what to believe. Thanks a lot.
  185. Profile photo of martius
    martius Male 40-49
    2 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 9:16 am
    BE A GOOD AMERICAN AND JUST BELIEVE....SHHHH SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP.
  186. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:20 am
    rockets carrying probes exploding, crashing, or one where the top of the rocket popped off kinda like a champagne bottle. And there isn`t much of a reason to keep going to the moon anyway, we`ve collected countless rock and dust samples, what else can you do when you`re up there. However, NASA does have plans to begin building a moon base by 2020 and have it fully operational by 2024, and it will be sort of like the international space station.
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/12/04...
  187. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:23 am
    "

    See the flag?
    When was the last time you saw WIND on the moon?
    How can you have WIND with NO atmosphere?
    "
    wow....are you blind or something we already went over this, the flag was moved around and rustled while being taken out, and then after that, it stayed in the exact same position landing after landing
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en...

  188. Profile photo of Wey_Pooh
    Wey_Pooh Male 18-29
    1004 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 3:24 pm
    Saragato`s got a point.

    "Jesus, only in America do people think the moon landing was fake and wrestling is real."

  189. Profile photo of videogamer
    videogamer Male 18-29
    3016 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 3:32 pm
    I`ve always shrugged off the conspiracy theorists` belief of staged lunar landings, but something about the evidence presented here seems to make sense.
    ...
    OH DEAR GOD.
  190. Profile photo of GummyWurmz
    GummyWurmz Female 13-17
    1412 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 3:59 pm
    Also the flag ripples and there is no wind on the moon.
  191. Profile photo of Dragonlord
    Dragonlord Male 18-29
    734 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 6:20 pm
    Ummmm, yah, I work for NASA, so maybe I`m a little biased here, but when I can go through the records of the flights in incredible detail, I wonder how it is that anyone actually believes that it`s fake.
  192. Profile photo of swtdreams285
    swtdreams285 Female 18-29
    1408 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm
    *sigh* Don`t know what or who to believe anymore >_<
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    lizzybee16 Female 18-29
    341 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 6:42 pm
    do these people realize that if you get a powerful enough telescope, you can actually see the flag the landing site... ON THE MOON!!! not like it matters, they`ll be people on the moon soon enough again...
  194. Profile photo of RonPaul4prez
    RonPaul4prez Male 18-29
    3 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 6:53 pm
    I believe that the government controls everything you see on tv and learn in school so you keep reproducing and putting money back into the system. All they care about is money. They have everyone by the balls. What makes you think they couldnt fake something like this if they wanted to? It is stupid to bash people for their thoughts or beliefs because noone knows what is really going on behind the scenes. It doesnt hurt to question authority sometimes.
  195. Profile photo of LaChica
    LaChica Female 18-29
    1596 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm
    Dun dun dunnn, conspiracies are getting annoying.
  196. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 8:00 pm
    fox4brawl, of course our government has spread propagana, lied to us before, however, you must not judge everything the government does as fake and against the people,for example, the bill that congress passed that raised the minimum wage, and SCHIP which the majority of Washington supports except for bush however once he`s gone its going to pass no doubt that will give countless poor families healthcare.

    Of course its important for a society to question their authority and be aware of what their government does, and RonPaul4prez, I have been taught about alot of ills that our government has done, from breaking every treaty they made with the native Americans to the propaganda and lies they told everyone during the cold war, we even saw and scrutinized one of government films about communism made back in the 60`s and everyone in the class scrutinized all of its biases and lies as classwork.

  197. Profile photo of mastercif
    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 8:06 pm
    "
    And for those of you giving links to wikipedia as proof are idiots. It can be edited at anytime by anyone, including the goverment.
    "

    no it can not, it is heavily monitored, you cant just go onto the article and post whatever you feel like, i tried this once in an article about a drink called lenninade, an article that sureley no one would care about or had even viewed, I posted things like "THIS DRINK GIVES YOU CANCER!" and within literally a few seconds of what i posted, it had been deleted. Also you must cite everything that you post, the article i posed had over 115 citations. And when scrutinized wikipedia was about as accurate as the Encyclopedia Britannica
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm

  198. Profile photo of coranthulle
    coranthulle Male 30-39
    466 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 8:09 pm
    LIzzybee 16> actually there are no current telescopes with the resolution necessary to see details as small as the lunar landing debris much less the flag itself. Even the Hubble isnt strong enough with its distance figured in. Telescopes arent built to iew things as cosmically close as our solar system. Thats why all videos and pictures of Jupiter are blurry unless they are taken by a passing probe. And since we havent sent a probe to the moon in many years its doubtful anyone here would be able to get a photo of the moons surface that would give us the details we need. There is however an effort being made to build an observatory that will have that kind of resolution to explore photograpically our solar system without having to send extremely expensive probes. This can all be found on NASA`s various websites. So yes please stop using wiki, start using NASA.
  199. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:34 pm
    well of course not everything the govt does tries to hurt us in some way, or lie to us in some way. those were fine examples.

    but as said before, the US could have simply faked the landing just to say "yeah, we`re the best." and just went later. it`s also possible they did go in the first place, and its not fake.

    and the only other 2 conspiracies i believe in are because of bush (9/11 & his election.)

    Its not a perfect world, & America is as perfect as you can get, but that doesn`t give any1 the right to use that against us. That`s whats been provoking me more. Many people in here shout out simply "AMERICA IS THE BEST! YOU SHOULD BE GREATFUL!" w/ no other comebacks or arguments, & think they`re the greatest.

    if it wasn`t for people who act the way I did, we wouldn`t be America, we`d still be lesser britain.

    all im saying, is look at the cold,hard facts. Its entirely possible it was faked, & done later. Its possible there were never men o

  200. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:36 pm
    n the moon, and that it was all faked. But possible is the key word there.

    And in a way, no one should really care. We`ll be back on the moon sooner or later, using it to propel ourselves further into space.

  201. Profile photo of bugfish
    bugfish Male 30-39
    2 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:57 pm
    Not only was the moon landing fake, but so is everything else. You are strapped to a hospital bed hallucinating this. I keep trying to get through. Wake up, dude! We miss you!

    Doctor, he`s drooling again. This is heartbreaking.

  202. Profile photo of Pistolero
    Pistolero Male 18-29
    42 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 10:58 pm
    I just spent the last hour reading all these comments...I have to say that I`m surprised how hard people fought on both sides. You`d figure some people would get it through their heads that the opposition isn`t going to give up and to let them live in their fantasy world.

    I know that unless you were actually there or had some kind of first hand experience, you won`t know for sure. All I have to say is that after going through everything that was submitted on here, along with doing some personal research, the evidence points in the direction of the "Moon Landing=REAL" category.

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    CheesyQueso Female 18-29
    2196 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 11:27 pm
    "
    dammit people stop using wikipedia as a proof source anyone can write anything on that site
    "
    no, its not, people like you have probably never even been to Wikipedia or even cared to look at the article, first off Wikipedia is heavily regulated, try it with an article, delete the whole thing or sabotage it in some way, and i guarantee you that within a few seconds the article will be exactly as it was before, I`ve tried this myself. Secondly, the article cites over 115 sources, so if that doesn`t show that the genuineness of an article, i don`t know what will. In that case then the encyclopedia Britannica is fake too.

    i have been on wikipedia and yes some are real but many arent i have gotten info off that site that is contidicted by like 10-20 other sites(dont bother to check more)

  204. Profile photo of tundralost
    tundralost Female 18-29
    90 posts
    November 27, 2007 at 11:31 pm
    quoting manorrd: "Everyone knows that the Apollo missions were filmed at the the world trade center while it was being constructed from 1965-1973.
    Definitive proof of this was about to be unleashed ot the world, which is why George Bush and NASA took down the buildings on 9/11.

    They blamed it on the terrorists so that they could film next moon missions in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    All you people who don`t believe this are sheep.

    bah..bahhh...you`re all brainwashed sheep."

    hahaha! LMFAO! manorrd, I think I love you.

  205. Profile photo of Tyryst
    Tyryst Male 13-17
    5 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 12:28 am
    damn....its posts like this! that make America look dumb....even i realize this, and i am some dumb, fat american swine....lol *SARCASM*!!!!
  206. Profile photo of wtfstoner55
    wtfstoner55 Male 13-17
    167 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 2:47 am
    Wow Fox4Brawl... you`re the future? *slits own throat* I`m the same generation, but I don`t want to be part of a future that tolerates retards like that. You think your vote makes a difference? For some reason I think that officials will side with the millions upon millions of votes that go against yours and the whole 6% that believe the same. (I`m not exactly sure what you`re voting for there... maybe they`ll poll the public to determine history books? Wait, scratch that, that`ll just lead to more retarded theories.) That Bad Astronomy site has all the proof you need to prove the landing was real. Well, from what I`ve read it doesn`t really prove it was real, it just disproves the disproof. But I just go with there`s no point in faking the moon landing, faking something such as exposing nuclear weapons in Russia would have made more sense, and the government would have spoken out by now that it was faked.
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    wtfstoner55 Male 13-17
    167 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 2:49 am
    The only reason they don`t is because it`s only the retards who believe it`s fake and they wouldn`t trust what the government said anyway and they`d be wasting they`re time. But then again, why do I care?
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    mastercif Male 13-17
    458 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 5:17 am
    "
    And in a way, no one should really care. We`ll be back on the moon sooner or later, using it to propel ourselves further into space
    "
    well then people will just make new conspiracy theories just like they are now about us going to the moon
  209. Profile photo of Slade8
    Slade8 Male 18-29
    951 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 10:50 am
    The moon landing might have been real. Just one thing...
    Monday, November 26, 2007 2:44:44 AM
    Yeah, but it looked like the moon. How do they explain that?
    -- AKappy

    Ever hear of painted styrofoam and other stage environments? Dumbass...

    Either works for me. I tend not to worry about poo like that.

  210. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 11:13 am
    wtfstoner55, fortunately, you don`t seem the kind i have to worry about. there are plenty of screwups on our generation, you could easily become one of them

    wtfSTONER65
    *slits own throat*

    oh, i see, nvm.

    or some reason I think that officials will side with the millions upon millions of votes that go against yours and the whole 6% that believe the same.

    nice statistics. at any rate, theres not a kid i know that doesn`t think the govt`s corrupt in some way. and half those kids are the smartest my school`s got.

    "hick highschool blah blah blah"

    no not really. best school in the best district.

    its only 1% if you remember, that bush "won" by. Every vote makes a difference. Being aussie, i guess that doesn`t ring the same bell.

    "That Bad Astronomy site has all the proof you need to prove the landing was real."

    yeah and some people rely on wikipedia

    the only sites you can "rely" on are govt sites. But wait, if the govt supposedly

  211. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 11:18 am
    did it, then they wouldn`t exactly try to proove themselves otherwise.

    "But I just go with there`s no point in faking the moon landing, faking something such as exposing nuclear weapons in Russia would have made more sense, and the government would have spoken out by now that it was faked."

    isn`t there? a lot of people will talk a lot of crap aout themselves to proove themselves to be best. what keeps the govt from doing the same? the govt always wants more respect then any other on the planet. the moon was a good way to proove that.

    & proving russia had nukes? yeah because you want the whole planet cowering in fear, while the govt rly has no reason to go in & stop them, thus citizens get pissed at the govt, as do other countries, arguments lead to disputes which leads into war. So fake a moon landing, or war?

    for everyone who says they govt wouldnt spend billions of dollars for nothing, exactly how much money are the troop`s lives in the Middle East worth for

  212. Profile photo of Fox4Brawl
    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 11:19 am
    a little bit of oil?

    i`ll repeat myself again.
    I NEVER SAID THEY NEVER WENT

    i simply said there were many counters against the "fact" that we did.

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    soro Male 13-17
    693 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 4:26 pm
    Here`s a theory- maybe it was just entertainment? Can we not start flame wars? God damn.
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    maiye Female 13-17
    251 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 6:04 pm
    this guy is a moron... as much as ther is evidence that "wires" held them up there is just as much evidence to prove him wrong...
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    maiye Female 13-17
    251 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 6:27 pm
    manorrd
    Male, 30-39, Europe
    2038 Posts Monday, November 26, 2007 5:41:53 AM
    "Everyone knows that the Apollo missions were filmed at the the world trade center while it was being constructed from 1965-1973.
    Definitive proof of this was about to be unleashed ot the world, which is why George Bush and NASA took down the buildings on 9/11.

    They blamed it on the terrorists so that they could film next moon missions in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    All you people who don`t believe this are sheep.

    bah..bahhh...you`re all brainwashed sheep."

    ur sooo full of sh*t

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    maiye Female 13-17
    251 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 7:12 pm
    this guy is a moron... as much as ther is evidence that "wires" held them up there is just as much evidence to prove him wrong...
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    cazzy1001 Male 18-29
    39 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 7:24 pm
    OMG!!!

    y r people such sheep? y cant people open thier eyes to th FACTS that r presented to them?

    for every piece of "evidence" there is FOR the moon landing, there are 100 AGAINST. u may dissagree, but please somebody counter-argue this:

    Y ISNT THE FULL MOONLANDING FOOTAGE EVER AIRED ON TV???

    is it because its not the biggest feat ever conquered by man? or is it cus of the film-literate, telivision-veiwing nation seeing through its weak facade.

    i welcome any sort of answer.

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    Magicmoper Male 13-17
    11 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 7:40 pm
    You`re ALL wrong!!!
    JFK was never killed he`s still alive. He, The Lockness monster, Bigfoot, and the black Michale Jackson flew to the moon on unicorns!!

    Once they got there they dressed up with the aliens and thats how they got the video footage, then they built a freeze ray inside the moon. They`re using that to freeze the martians so we can disect them and take their magic!!!
    Hooray for the Government!!!!

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    Magicmoper Male 13-17
    11 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 7:44 pm
    also, Fox4Brawl...do you have any friends?
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    Fox4Brawl Male 13-17
    233 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 8:23 pm
    yea!!1!!1oneone Tey @ll livez on teh fricken moon with me. WOWZORZ!

    seriously. if you don`t like what i have to say, tell me why or just keep your mouth shut. don`t make yourself look like an idiot. its degrading.

    "Y ISNT THE FULL MOONLANDING FOOTAGE EVER AIRED ON TV???"

    if i remember right, they "lost" the original footage.

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    jar-head Male 13-17
    596 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 10:15 pm
    people love to argue,and no one knows a thing, unless they have done it. No argument there.
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    tundralost Female 18-29
    90 posts
    November 28, 2007 at 10:51 pm
    guys, monorrd and Akappy were being sarcastic.
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    citruspinman Male 70 & Over
    169 posts
    December 2, 2007 at 5:27 pm
    Grrr, who gives a crap if it was staged or not? I think it wasn`t, but are the British jealous or something? Because it seems they always disagree with everything we say.
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    Alposky Male 18-29
    22 posts
    December 12, 2007 at 6:33 am
    Hmmm they both make sense to me. But im sure about 1 thing there is a footprint on moon and "its a big step for !voice is shakin here! humanity". in the other hand this much landings doesnt make sense to me so maybe some of them could be fake to show off.

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