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Those guys were morons to try to do that without having some sort of paramedic to help him. It really irks me that idiots like those guys do that stuff...grag...
"what do we do?"... HOW EFFIN LAME ARE THEY?!
Idiot1: CALL 911
Well of course your`e going to call 911! Everyone`s seen the ocmmercial`s when they were kids a 100000 times. It`S the first thing people do by instinct, but then what? Your`e far in the wilderness with a guy in convulsions in front of you! Most of us would be quite scared and confused and besides calling for help your`e totally useless.
I also found it interesting that most of you are saying that the hemet comes off. My instincts wouldv`t told me to keep it on because of spinal injuries but yeah, my wrong.
And again: It doesn`t matter if it`s just a group of guys out having a blast in the back woods - it`s always wise to have someone trained in emergency first aid. The classes are usually taught at low or no cost through either colleges or here in Canada through the St. John`s Ambulance. Better safe than sorry.
Furthermore, any time you are knocked unconscious, either from a punch to the head or by simply falling down, there is a risk of head injury. Loss of consciousness is one of the things physicians check for on a trauma evaluation and if there is an LOC they need to know for how long it was sustained (if the patient is not unconscious at the time of the assessment).
As for being in the middle of nowhere, that causes risks yes. But many trauma hospitals have heli-vac available and while it isn`t an immediate solution that would be ideal, it`s a lot better than waiting for an ambulance to get there.
I don`t know, but whatever you do, don`t put down that camera!
All hail cross breading freaks of nature.
Perhaps that`s what the guy meant..
As far as the whole helmet thing, you`ve really got to assess the situation. If it isn`t going to block the airway then leave it (at the very least unstrap the bottom)...I`m sure most people on here have seen when a football player takes a huge hit and has to be carted off they usually leave his helmet on but unscrew his face mask to free up his face...
I kind of feel sorry for the guy. I could say he asked for it, but that would be cruel.
So yea, I hope he`s alright.
I heard this story in CPR class about this couple that was in a car accident together. The man seemed perfectly fine but the woman was pretty frigged up.....Aaaaanywho...He (The husband) walked into the ER, following his wife and was (By all accounts) alright, but when the doctor walked in to give him the news (Which was left out of the story) He jerked his head toward the doctor and because of an unknown injury, severed his spinal cord. In other words, he had broken his neck and was so jacked on andrenilin (Spelling, probably) that he didn`t realize it, and in the quick head turn, finished the job...so to speak.
Yeah, that`s my story, and it`s probably not true. But, that`s how it was told to me.
And, Squinge. When you asphyxiate you lose oxygen, and aspiration is from you choking on something. So, you`re actually wrong.
He would asphyxiate because of aspiration due to vomit.
And, I`m sorry, you -never- -ever- move the individual who may have a neck injury unless you absolutely have to.
Regardless of the circumstances. Vomiting probably won`t be an issue, but moving the head will be.
Sorry, guys. But that`s the way it is, and this I do know.
Maybe if you were an EMT to get their head on the board, but...as for their random friends standing around, they were wrong to move the head at all.
Then again, looked like he was moving it without their help...
I believe it`s better to leave it at least until paramedics arrive.
What else should be done, other than remove the helmet and call an ambulance? Just watch? :/
And is what eagles5 said really true?I`ve heard that those convulsions aren`t always harmful? It certainly doesn`t look like it!I wonder what it feels like when you`re like that... Probably like nothing if you`re unconscious?
Whoa, I`ve never written a message that has so many questions.. I`ll shut up now.
That looked really bad. I mean, we see crazy-ass car crashes all the time now, on the internet... but you rarely see the driver after the crash convulsing on the ground with.. bleh.
A head injury can cause convulsions.Removing the helmet in that situation was the right thing to do, as his airway needs to be kept clear.
i was a paramedic for several years and at least here in europe it is standard practice to remove the helmet.
well how about call an ambulance...
That was kinda freaky, though... Would that be caused by some spinal injury or something?