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And, Criss Angel`s magic sucks because Criss Angel sucks. Is that my opinion? Of course it is. Although, it is pretty much fact, once again pointing to the fact that he had relations with Paris Hilton, and if you don`t think she sucks...then...I dunno.
Oh, and by-the-by, Andyl. I find that once you reach your character limit...Just re-click on the message box and continue typing, using cntrl-x to cut away everything above 1000 characters and then pasting it in the bottom, cutting away the excess until you`ve reached the end..Much easier to proof read and such...
Eh. De-railed. One moment.
Ah, yes...Do I think mythological beasts exist? Dur. Of course not...But, that doesn`t ruin the stories for me. I love to read fiction but, that doesn`t mean it`s real. Someone doesn`t have to believe in something to receieve enjoyment from it.Yes, Adults should know that what they`re watching isn`t real...Or, else we end up with more John Edwards...But, refering to the saw trick once again...That was cool as sh*t. Find me someone who didn`t like that...
As far as converting people to Atheism...
Ok, here`s the thing. I don`t know what`s going on in the heavens above me, No one does...The most ridiculous religion I`ve ever heard of is that
Hey, when all else fails, blame it on smoke and mirrors!
Why`d they cut that off? I`d written 988 characters! Ah well. At least the posting in this thread has been better than usual. It`s funny that the only time we get decent posts is when there are huge arguments going on.
So now we have two guys on the same side, one saying "I like good magic tricks" and the other "all magic tricks suck". Now do you see how this argumentation is futile? See Imeagla, I read posts more closely that most people here. But your first lot of posts about copyrighting and stuff didn`t apply to my points. Nor did the stuff about magicians earning money from doing "crap" tricks. That fight is with almightybob.
So what have we learned? Well, goaliejerry for one is a fool. I don`t like B3nt. Most of the rest of us stand in the same court and bicker on assumptions we`ve made. It
But the way Imeagla argued made it seem like he hates magic because he hates Criss Angel. But he just wants to see better magic that he can`t figure out. So he`s basically the same as all of us here (`cept Jerry), even though he didn`t make that apparent until now. Btw, if you know how all the saw-in-half tricks work Imeagla, do tell.
So clearly it`s not magic that`s the problem. It`s Criss Angel.
But here`s the thing. Both of us are completely ranting on about different things. I understand how you don`t like Criss Angel because he`s a douche and you don`t like magic because grown adults should know better. I say let them believe it, I personally know it`s a trick, and frankly have given up on trying to change their mind. The way I see it, you are trying to force YOUR belief on top of THEIRS, and if you read my posts you`ll see that THAT is what I don`t like. Note how you compared Creation to magic? It`s like you`re converting people to atheism. I don`t like that sort of thing.
The whole Star Wars crap was just painting a picture of you as some sort of fun-wrecking arse. Which clearly you aren`t in real life, but here you`re being a bit of an arsehole. And I don`t appreciate being patronised. I`m 16, not 13.
Anywho, very nice post, Otpil.
The only music that`s worth listening to is that which is made by people that love making it. If they love it, they don`t need fame and fortune as an incentive, just the music.
I seriously doubt that Almightybob meant that they should work for the money; It`s more likely he meant to say "shouldn`t work for the money" or "should work for the music." Either way, I disagree with him. Music is an art, the entire point of which is to share. If you sat alone in your room and played piano, no matter how masterfully you played, you wouldn`t be as good as the middle schooler playing in his talent show. Technique wise, yes, you`d be better. But music isn`t all technique, it`s about conveying the emotions that went into the piece to the people that listen. Music is meant to be shared. People should support musicians so that they can make a living and be able to keep bringing us the art that enriches our lives.
But should 50 cent (Note: Completely random choice of artist, this isn`t meant to be a personal attack on him or his fa
Almightybob"Oh and also, to whoever said that musicians should do it for the money, why the hell shouldn`t they get paid for doing what they enjoy? I enjoy electronic engineering but I`ll be damned if I`m going to work for nothing when I graduate. It`s the record companies who are screwing the consumer, not the artists. Direct your bitterness at them, not the entertainers."
What?? What the hell did you just say??Dude, seriously. I either misread something and am suffering from that concussion that I never receieved or...you mistyped something.
They should be doing it for the money? Why Shouldn`t they get paid?
I clearly said pirating music doesn`t hurt the artist as they make their money from merchandise and concerts.
Should they be working for money, though? No, that`d be dumb, then their art would be forced as a Burger by a McEmployee.
So....yeah. Take that.
The lesson to-day is this. Sometimes, you don`t have to `get` someone, because they`ve already `got` themselves.
There is magic out there, there really is. Creation is magic, I`m fairly certain. The act of two beings creating another being is probably as close to magic as we`ll ever get.
Now, onto Andyl.*clap, clap, clap* Very good. And from someone who`s just so young.
Your grammar, spelling and wording was impressive, friend.
How-ever, I`m assuming that you`ve read nothing but my last post. I`ll let you go ahead and read back to the first few pages and then let you see what you think.
But, you see, friend. You said
Let us address almightybob, first.
You see, friend, you missed my point.
Did I ever once say that I do not enjoy `magic` tricks? Absolutely not. I was pissed at the fact that people were complaining about the `magicians` code` And saying that people were going to be out of work.
I clearly said this will make magicians work harder for their audience, or retire.
Do I enjoy sitcoms and the such? Of course. Although, most of what I watch happens to be cartoons. About as fabricated as it comes.
As far as die hard realism goes. Yes, I love logic. I love when things just work out, the plans are all laid down and make a beautiful pattern. How-ever, I would love nothing more than for something to happen that has absolutely no explaination. Something that baffeled the world over. I mean, seriously. If you honestly believe what Copperfield, Angel and whom-ever else does, than you probably reside in Retard-Town, USA.
So all the whiney magicians, and they ARE whiney, please shut up, i have heard this arguyement over and over, that its wrogn to reveal, gvuess what, its wrong to keep using the tired odl tricks for ages, its wrong to stop technology as many professionals want to do by limiting the ability to post reveals on youtube etc.
It isnt the trick that sells anyways, its the personality,. thats why criss angel can make buttloads of money off other peopels parlor tricks, thats why thousands of peoeplw atch his show even when thousands know the crap he is pulling, the same with david blaine with his store bought tricks like the quater.
just my mindless ramblings...
And I take this opportunity to shamelessly admit that I use Limewire and ***!!!!:-OSTEAL:-O!!!!*** music. I don`t understand why people have a problem with that. So they get a little less than the billions they already recieve in which they spend on million-dollar pinky rings and professional ass-wipers. I must be such a horrible person for taking away from these clearly mistreated and repressed people.
The thing is that I don`t mind people believing in magic etc. As long as they don`t enforce their beliefs on others. What I do like is seeing how these people seem to defy all laws of physics. It`s entertainment, and I like it. Sure, Imeagla, you have your fan club of logic infested party-poopers, and you have fun with that. You`re probably one of those people who would only ever went to the star wars films to talk loudly through the whole thing about how lightsabers are physically impossible.
So now what? You gonna "get me good" this time? With your ineffible logic? Can I not see past my nose? No, you are the blind, close-minded one because you won`t accept the opinions and viewpoints of others.
That, my friend, is how to "get `em good".
It`s the record companies who are screwing the consumer, not the artists. Direct your bitterness at them, not the entertainers.
Magic is just like those things. You know it`s not real but it`s entertaining. Enjoying a magic trick doesn`t make you any more pathetic than enjoying Scrubs (or a TV show you like, that was the first one I thought of).
Also die-hard realism didn`t end belief that the world was flat, new scientific discoveries did. If it turns out in 10 years that there is other intelligent life in the universe would you call the UFO conspiracy nuts of today die-hard realists? I doubt it.
And I wonder what the neighbors of the guy in the lion suit think about him creeping around in the night behind their house... listening, smelling.
just my thought...
So by your theory, if I learn to drive, a professional race car driver career is ruined, If I draw something, an pro artist has no chance, If I am taught to write, then that ruins a best selling authors chances.Pleeease.....
The world is flat, animals spontaneously erupt from inanimate objects, and A fat man in a red suit wanders the world annually dropping presents to all the good little girls and boys.
This is what Die Hard Realism ruins, friend.
I am merciful on occasion. See?
I love magic. And what`s more, I love seeing how it`s done. It makes me appreciate how people can entertain audiences with things that are, after all, so simple. If you don`t have the ability to be mesmerised by something, that makes you feel like a kid again, then I pity you. You call us naive fools for liking magic, I call you depressive, die hard realists who don`t know how to let go and have real, honest fun.
Die hard realism ruins thought. It ruins philosophy, and so many important aspects of human intelligence. The paranormal and whatnot is all part of our imagination, and if you deny people to let their minds wander and imagine and just believe what they want, then you are sad arseholes indeed.
Now -that`s- real magic.
The Magic of stupidity. Behold the glory." hahaha.
I doubt the revealing of one trick will end every magician`s career. OH poo, someone taught me how to cook a hamburger, now all the fast food joints are going out of business....you should probably understand economics a bit before stating your dumbass opinion.
Imeagla:"Thank God for that post. It was just so friggin` constructive.Thank God you didn`t whine and attack anyone. That would`ve been awfully lame.
The fact that you contradicted yourself in a mere four sentences.
The Magic of stupidity. Behold the glory."This is a fantastic example of his godliness, in which he verbally beats the sh*t out of theshark350
I don`t give a poo how he does it, for one reason and one reason only: he`s hot (I dunno what other adjective to use here, damn). I don`t particularly care to analyze his show because watching him is just fine for me.
I am angered because a) dammit now I know how it`s done and b) I don`t have a glue stick to try this myself. The world is unjust.
"magic in this context is not supernatural, genius.In this context illusions = magic. you fail.
and I love how everyone here has nothing better to do than whine and attack other people. yep that`s sure a more constructive use of time than magic."
Thank God for that post. It was just so friggin` constructive. Thank God you didn`t whine and attack anyone. That would`ve been awfully lame.
The fact that you contradicted yourself in a mere four sentences.
The Magic of stupidity. Behold the glory.
In this context illusions = magic. you fail.
and I love how everyone here has nothing better to do than whine and attack other people. yep that`s sure a more constructive use of time than magic.
(Probably didn`t need to quote that...But, hell. How often -can- you quote something like that.)
No, B3nt, Thank you. Seriously. Thank you for reminding me there -are- people out there who can still read and appreciate, Thank you, B3nt. Thank you. :-D
One day, maybe people like us will be the majority. People who can see past the end of their noses...
And for the record, I download music and shows like it`s my job...Not like it hurts the artist (despite what publishers and record companies have you think) They make very little from the actual sale of the CD. More or less concert and merchandise for them...
Magic tricks suck. Freakin Carnies and Gypsies, the lot of them. goaliejerry, Does your life really suck that much that your only source of entertainment is the supernatural (which... SHOCK... doesn`t exist)? The world is a better place without people (like carnies and magicians) who prey on other`s naivety and need for other-worldly fulfillment. Evolution is true and ghosts and spirits and magic don`t exist. Nor, I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, does Santa exist.
By the way, I steal the poo out of music, and I care nothing about the laws that I break. This is because they are unjust, and I fundamentaly disagree with them. People who really love to do something, like musicians, should be doing it for their love of it, not to become insanely rich fake "plastic" people.
Take your moral piety and shove it up your arse, loser.
But on a different note... did anyone notice how much that guy seemed to enjoy the sawing of his own neck? His picture belonged with the diving "o" faces.
P.S. I love you all.
Oh my goodness. That was gold. Bubba, you`re freakin awesome.
Your little phallus object should be removed. Oh, what a pleasure that would be if I were the one to remove it! My husband wouldn`t mind if I handled such a tiny, little thing!
And by the way, that guy in the video has some huge, weird-looking anime-ish eyes...
You can go to the bookstore and buy a book that will tell you how to do this, and many other silly little tricks. Magicians do not make money off of things like this. That`s why Criss Angel will give these type of tricks away on his show. Google free magic tricks and see what you get.
I`m a small-time, wanna-be magician, and I come from a long line of the same. Sometimes it`s just as fun to give away a small little trick like that as it is to WOW people with it.
Video>> Guy was cute! I liked it..
Better than me, ya jerk.
But, I kid, I kid.
By exposing the simple tricks (And once again, this involved GLUE a small piece of STRING and a friggin` flap of your neck.) then the "Illusion Artists" (is that what they`re calling themselves these days?) will be forced to retire and cease boring us or actually think of something creative.
I mean, Criss Angel is nothing more than a high-class emo who dated Paris Hilton. (didn`t he? I may be mistaken on that. Don`t feel like looking it up.(and not the emo part, the Paris Hilton part))
Isn`t that reason alone to take him down?
If -any- of you ever get within striking distance of that horse-faced hussy and don`t take advantage of it, then you`re as stupid as him.
Not to mention, you never answered my question, Jerry of the Goalie variety.
Have you ever downloaded a song or watched a show online..?
No, it can`t be copyrighted or trademarked, and I did not say it could be. But it can be a trade secret subject to confidentiality. It may also be protected as is choreography. Read up, consult your lawyer.
No, I am not an aspiring magician. I`d be lying if I said I didn`t, at times, enjoy bitching at idiots, but moreover I have ethics.
More simply, those who expose magic tricks are fricken party poopers. Why ruin the observers fun forever by removing the wonderment? Of course its a trick, its fun because we don`t know how it was done. Once we know, good bye entertainment.
Well, if that`s your Stand GoalieJerry then I do hope you`ve never downloaded a song, or watched a television show illegally on the internet.
Or took advantage of anyone else`s work. Ever.
Of course you have, why? Because we`re all soul-less shells of things.
Or, that people should just calm the f*ck down about life.
Seriously, so many people b*tch about so many things, I shouldn`t be surprised at this.
Tell me, GoalieJerry...Are you an aspiring magician or just someone who likes to B*tch?
This is NOT stealing an industry secret as there cannot be a copyright on a `magic` trick. As there is no MAGIC. This is an illusion, and as such belongs to human beings. Being that we all have a neck and access to some thread and some glue.
You apparently have sand in your Vag(na as well, hopefully you can use the dustbuster when KoalaMeatPie is done with it.
Some tricks are public knowledge, like this one is now. BUT IT IS NO DIFFERNET THAN STEALING AN INDUSTRY SECRET AND EXPOSING IT TO THE WORLD, to the detriment of the owner.
People who do this are just like movie critics; if you suck too badly to make movies, why not tear down the work of others?
Is there a convention of wanna-be-magicians on here?
Did you people poop on the television set when that series on Fox (Was it Fox? It was a major company)was on? Revealed all the magicians secrets?
People that are b*tching fail to see the upside to this, as you`re retarded. Allow me to enlighten you.
It is simple. If the tricks have been figured out, shown and are common knowledge then there are two things that will happen.
Lame-ass magicians such as `Criss` Angel will be forced to use even -more- cut scenes in their `magic` acts
They`ll be forced to come up with even more `amazing` (aherm) tricks to baffle all you...people out there.
So. There you go.
Stop bitching and rejoice, wanna-be-magicians, now you have something to do. Figure out something that some 16 year old can`t put on IAB.
Thats not true. I knew this kid in highschool who was a bonified GENIUS. Graduated at 16, and he already finished ALL COLLEGE LEVEL math courses at the local college. He was being recruited by major financial companies as well as government agencys.
He could do the most amazing magic tricks I`ve ever seen, no joke. Now get this. He did more hard drugs than anyone I`ve ever known. But the crazy thing is, he would research the drugs and learn the best way to take them to minimize harm. Yeah, it sounds crazy, but again, he was amazingly intelligent. And he did professional magic shows on the side, just for fun.
Fu(king Bullshiit.First off, it`s Not Criss Angel`s Trick,It`s Sean Feild`s.
And this is Fu(king BS. You can`t reveal shiit like that.
You can`t reveal Shiit like this. People Build their careers off this type of material, it ruins their jobs as entertainners. Not all magiciens are broadway, vegas, whatever, a lot of them are in Restaurants, Shows in clubs etc, and blantely exposing tricks ruins their job.This link should be removed.-------------------------------------------------
Want a Dustbuster, KoalaMeatPie?Industrial strength one, maybe?
For what, you ask? For getting that Sand out of your Vag*na.It seems to be lodged up there fairly well.
Besides, does some half-assed fake magician really need three summer houses in Malibu with a new Porshe every year?
Nope. He doesn`t.
Oh, I get it. Someone was an aspiring magician. `Was` being the key word.
Allow me to cut some cheese to accompany your whine, Koala
The trick was stupid. And no magician should be making money off an easy trick like that. I figured it out before the how to. Now placing a bottle halfway through a table, that`s a good trick.
Anyway, that was kind of gross, but cool nevertheless
How do you know? Just joking :-D but I figure when people cuss so much and double posts means they are quite angry. You know, angry German kid on computer angry (you know that video).
Lost_In_Time & Hellven: He was just trying to make a moral point, it`s not like he actually yelled and threw things when he saw the video
thisidrocks: I hereby am questioning your sexual preferences.
Really cool video. I`ve gotta try this sometime.
Anyway, that looked weird. I almost want to try it. The guy was cute, too.
This link should be removed.
First off, it`s Not Criss Angel`s Trick,
It`s Sean Feild`s.
And this is Fu(king BS. You can`t reveal shiit like that.