Water Can Burn?

Submitted by: crazyguy24 9 years ago Science

Trick to make water burn.
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Male 564
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Male 177
Hydrogen is indeed less dense than water and would float away, but this still is possible if the rate at which is floats away is low enough. If the concentration of hydrogen and oxygen right at the water level is high enough, you may get this effect.
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Male 177
^^ helium? Where did you get that? My hypothesis: out of some body part where the sun don`t shine!
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Male 45
electrolysis doesn`t work if you have no way to store the separated helium and oxygen, it`ll just float away, and even IF there was still a high enough concentration of both in the air in the room, the flames wouldn`t stick to the surface of the water, but fill the majority of the room.

It just isn`t possible. water can`t burn, water is a god damn product of something burning, hydrogen and oxygen burning CREATES water in gas form.

it`s so sad seeing so many people who think they know what`s going on, when in fact they don`t have a damn clue what they are talking about.

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Male 102
MechBFP:
Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.

no, but if i poured boiling water on you it would be burning...your skin

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Male 170
I haven`t seen anyone properly refute the claims for electrolysis. Two gases are released, Oxygen and Hydrogen. One thing that was not evident on the film were the bubbles you would expect to see on the water if electrolysis was occuring. That in itself is pretty suspicious. The other clearly incorrect assumption is that the gas that has been released is Hydrogen. If that were the case, when you light hydrogen, it tends to burn rather instantly in something known commonly in schools as the `squeaky pop test`. Also demonstrable via balloons and a spill on a ruler. The only way a continous flame could possibly be achieved in theory is if electrolysis were continually occuring, but as the batteries have been removed, this clearly isn`t the case.

That said, I could be wrong. I haven`t tried this myself, so I don`t have enough direct evidence to back my theory up. From the science I know and have seen myself though, I find this highly implausible.

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Male 93
also a rechargeable lithium ion batteries are fun to play with if you take everything off the battery so it is just metal. then take a piece of metal and touch to the terminals and another part of the battery. be sure to use something to protect your hands because it gets really hot, but its fun to make sparks and if you leave the metal on it it gets red hot and welds itself to the battery.
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Male 93
its more fun with gasoline or carburetor cleaner. i sprayed some in to a bucket with a little water in it and dthe bucket was bent almost shut at the top of i took a lighter and a huge ball of fire erupted in front of me.lol
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Male 1,129
all the batteries do is cause electrolysis which makes the water start to form hydrogen and oxygen so the water isnt burning its the hydrogen that was given off that is. and with a rich oxygen environment also it will burn very well.
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Female 214
Why do "Science" videos always bring out the idiots?
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Male 317
Put some paint on top of water, then burn the paint. Even though this video is fake, my idea will work. :-D
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Female 367
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99448.htm
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Male 6
Technically water can`t burn, but if a fire is hot enough (e.g. magnesium burning), the water can be split into hydrogen and oxygen (as in electrolysis).
2H2O -> 2H2+O2
The H2 and O2 undergo combustion turning back into water.
This video is absolute bulls*1t though.
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Male 756
First, you didn’t [quote] “have all day to read trough (sp) two pages”. [/quote]
And now, you just [quote]”don’t feel like reading them all... between classes...” [/quote]

Then why did you even post? If you don’t have the time OR feel like reading everyone else’s, then don’t assume for a moment that everyone else has time or feels like reading yours, especially when your message has no substance, being previously stated several times before.

Maybe when you graduate from Reading Class, you will then have time AND you will feel like reading.

Reading is fundamental.

(sp) through

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Male 756
To summarize recent quotes by [quote] thamiam [/quote]

Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 1:14:59 PM: [quote]"I don`t know if someone`s already said this, but the chemical in the glass is rubbing alcohol."[/quote]

key words – [quote]“I don’t know”[/quote]

Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 7:06:39 PM: [quote] “I don’t have all day to read trough (sp) 2 pages”[/quote]

(obviously a slow reader)

Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 9:36:48 PM: [quote] “Skimming mindless dribble... because I still don`t feel like reading them all... between classes...”[/quote]

There you go being contradictory, just as I predicted.

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Male 2,859
^^ I`m pretty sure Electrolysis is a way to plate metals. Works best with salt water really.

I thought it was a way to remove hair from legs, and if you combine that with salt water it`s painful.

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Male 1,354
youre all idiots
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Male 7
Okay guys, now to show you how grade 9 science works.

There are two batteries in the water for 40 minutes (for better results wait longer, and make sure the batteries are new.) Because water conducts electricity and the batteries are electrical a reaction happens causing the hydrogen to become separated from the oxygen.

Since both hydrogen (which is highly flammable) and Oxygen (a fuel) are both gases they simply float away.

However, since the glass is shaped the way it is, some of the gas is trapped inside of the glass. Thus, when you light the match there is fire. Unfortunately you are not technically setting water on fire. You are just making a reaction that allows you to burn hydrogen above water. (which is clearly visible in the video.)

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Male 5
FAKE!
if you could just put a battery in water to make a burning fuel, we`d all be rich.

his man clearly owns an alcohol dispensing fridge. i gotta get me a fridge like that.

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Male 957
funny chicanery going on here
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Male 4
Tried it, and it didnt work. BLOWS
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Male 8
Sweating bullets, indeed. Skimming mindless dribble (yes skimming, because I still don`t feel like reading them all) between classes and again before I go out tonight. Oh what a hypocrite I am, me and all the time I`ve wasted writing 7 posts in the 5 years I`ve been looking at posts on here.
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Male 1,404
Love that high temperature glass used in this video!
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Male 38
the batteries give off a chemical that makes the water burn! =-)
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Female 416
when i saw the title i just had to say "no kidding"

i mean if you boil water and stick your finger in it you probably yell "ahhh! that burns!!!"

then i saw the vid and wished it had been some idiot dipping his fingers in boiling water beacause at least it`s not something completely fake.

oh, and a big thumbs up to patriotpappy. way to completely screw someone up.

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Female 1,407
The whole time I was reminded of that fire on water scene at Disneland`s night show; guess this won`t do ^_^
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Male 907
"And you will contradict yourself again when you find the time to revisit and reply to this post.

And when you don`t repost, it will be because you don`t want everyone to know that you did exactly what I said you would do.

you twat."

Hahahah! Pure brilliance :-D! Probably sweating bullets knowing he is screwed either way ^_^.

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Male 907
So he basically dipped his hand in battery acid......B-|
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Male 392
omg!
isan too.
thin layer of oil.
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Male 756
^^On Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:06:39 PM, thamian said,

[quote]"I`m sorry I don`t have all day to read trough 2 pages of idiots trying to figure out that this, like all the unbelievable science videos that have been posted recently, is a fake. When I`m like you and have no social life, I`ll bother to read through the nonsense. Until then, shove it."[/quote]

I didn`t realize you were such a slow reader that it would take you all day to read through 2 pages.

But you found time to revisit the thread that you had already read to see if anyone had responded to your earlier post? Now you`re contradicting yourself.

And you will contradict yourself again when you find the time to revisit and reply to this post.

And when you don`t repost, it will be because you don`t want everyone to know that you did exactly what I said you would do.

you twat.

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Male 730
battery acid IS flammible, and that would be the only even remotely plausable cause for this, except that its fake. batteries are sealed and any TINY amount that could seep out would never burn that long. boring.
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Male 7
Okay maybe the acid isnt flammable, but what a battery contains is... it contains many different chemicals most of which are flammable...those seep in the water and when lit it burns...not the water you dumb ass
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Male 8
^^ On Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:14:59 PM, thamian said, "I don`t know if someone`s already said this, but the chemical in the glass is rubbing alcohol."

Only about 10 times, you twat. I know it`s a challenge, but try reading the previous posts before you write.

It`s educational and fun!

I`m sorry I don`t have all day to read trough 2 pages of idiots trying to figure out that this, like all the unbelievable science videos that have been posted recently, is a fake. When I`m like you and have no social life, I`ll bother to read through the nonsense. Until then, shove it.

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Male 384
BURN BURN!!!!
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Female 192
I saw that this morning on youtube!
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Male 14
um... zoltar, acid isnt flamable
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Male 28
The hilarious replies posted here more than make up for the minute I wasted watching that video!
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Male 7
There is no swapping this with another liquid there is nothing special going on, and it isnt a trick...You are a dumb ass if you believe water is burning, it is the acid from the batteries that seeped in the watter that is buring...Dont believe me go get some rubbing alcohol and mix it with water have more water than alcohol though...soak a dollar and light it, the dollar will remain in tack and it will appear as water is buring. dumb asses
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Male 191
umm... or you could put oil on it and light a match
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Male 814
"stick your finger in that boiling water and see if it burns."

dangit bob, ya beat me too it....it scalds. not burns.

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Male 986
he cant have switched it, maybe he added some rubbing alcohol to it, but if he completely switched it, then it would have made a big boom, not a small, nearly transparent flame...
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Male 313
ANY OF YOU WHO BELIEVED THIS ARE RETARDS, there is no chemical reaction with the batteries of anything, the flame is CLEARLY that of alcohol, which is clear just like water. i cant believe anyone would even post this bullpoo!
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Male 445
I`m certain that in the next two pages of comments that I haven`t read yet, the statement "Fake! You can tell it`s alcohol burning by the blue flame" has come up.

So, FAKE! You can tell it`s alcohol burning by the blue flame. Yes, it`s yellow/orange at the top, but at the surface, it`s blue and nearly invisible. Burn some rubbing alcohol. Same look.

Yes, boiling water burns. Real bad, too. As in blisters time.

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Male 4
Water can`t burn it just changes it`s phase also the reason water puts out fires has more to do with it`s specific heat than it actually being wet.

Water takes over 40 Kilojoules per mole to change it`s phase from liquid to gas

So basically when water puts a fire out it is taking more energy away when it changes to steam than the fire can produce.

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Male 155
"Burning is the common name for a combustion reaction, two examples of which are displayed above."

Burning is extreamly fast oxidation. Its like rust but in a much shorter amount of time

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Male 155
"its not fake retards its electrolisis"

I`m pretty sure Electrolysis is a way to plate metals. Works best with salt water really.

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Male 155
"I should try this personally to see if it is indeed an interesting quirk of water, or a badly created hoax.

really thinking abut it though water itself is confusing, hydrogen alone is flammable and oxygen is as well, so combining the two should make an extremely volatile explosive, but thanks to some odd twist of physics it actually puts out fire instead of combusting into a horrible mess... freaking backward liquid.

anywho... off to try it!"

Look at table salt.
It`s sodium and Chlorine
both when alone are extreamly unstable.
but together it make salt that you put on your food and eat!

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Male 5
its not fake retards its electrolisis
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Male 4,393
the water... it burns!!! :P
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Female 1,492
i was so about to say something smart about boiling the water...but i guess this works too
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Male 285
isnt it dangerous to touch the batteries after that?
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Male 756
^^[quote] On Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:14:59 PM, thamian said, "I don`t know if someone`s already said this, but the chemical in the glass is rubbing alcohol."[/quote]

Only about 10 times, you twat. I know it`s a challenge, but try reading the previous posts before you write.

It`s educational and fun!

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Male 1,497
since its fake, this vid fails
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Female 700
kinda cool but probably fake.
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Male 4,290
The guy`s basic theory is good but it wouldn`t work in practice. True, if you put batteries in water you will get a veeery little electrolysis. But with AA batteries in 40 minutes you`d never have enough to burn for as long as that, even if you collected it all. All you`re going to get is some damp batteries.

Also, sticking your hand in boiling water isn`t a burn, it`s a scald.

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Male 8
I don`t know if someone`s already said this, but the chemical in the glass is rubbing alcohol.
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Male 170
aye, the Hydrogen gas would burn very quickly. Also, regarding needing a fuel and oxygen...

For hydrocarbon fuels:

Fuel + Oxygen + (heat) --> Carbon Dioxide + Water + (energy)

E.g. CH4 + 2.O2 --> CO2+ 2.H20

For carbon only fuels

Carbon + Oxygen --> Carbon Dioxide.

C + O2 --> CO2

if you get rid of the C or the CH4, burning cannot occur.

Burning is the common name for a combustion reaction, two examples of which are displayed above. A burn as a medical term is something entirely different.

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Male 4
It`s definitely rubbing alcohol. It burned with the same flame as rubbing alcohol. Those batteries couldn`t have made enough hydrogen to make any flame, but even if they did, anyone who took a basic chem class knows that hydrogen burns very quickly and makes a pop sound, at least in a test tube. We don`t have to discuss anymore. The end.
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Male 1,092
that was pretty cool =]
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Male 14
lol you need at least a DC current of 12 volts to perform electrolysis of water and if it was electrolysis of water you would see bubbles of H+ coming off the - end of the battery and O2- coming off the + end.
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Male 4
Wow. A lot of y`all are so amazingly retarded. Go take a basic chemistry class at your local community college. Seriously.

H20 is -NOT- capable of burning. O2, sure. H2, sure. NOT WATER. Water is the *product* of a combustion reaction (burning).

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Male 332
Acids dissolve in water, so there`s no way it was the battery acid because 2 seperate layers wouldn`t form. My vote is on rubbing alcohol.
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Male 438
It`s easy to identify who is an idiot on here when they talk in 100% confidence about how they THINK this will work, "yeah it`s because of the hydrogen and oxygen".
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Male 98
Water can`t burn, it can only freeze and boil from liquid form.

It is possible if he was using damaged batteries that some of the battery acid escaped the casing and being lighter than water settled on top of the water layer. Battery acid is flammable so the top layer could have been lit. If this is how it was done, I suggest you don`t try it as the fumes could be toxic.

It is also possible that the liquid was substituted for flammable liquid.

Electrolysis has nothing to do with it as any hydrogen gas released would float away from the cup, nor would it light this way.

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Male 234
I agree with fwabam. Besides, to make it burn like shown in the vid, you`d be able to light the water immediatly after you put the batteries in (or when the elektrolystuff starts).

And if its not the hydrogen that burns, the batteries have something which disolves in the water, or floats to the top like most oils.

If its not one of those, it`s fake imo.

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Male 46
when you burn something, you are oxidizing it, changing it`s chemical structure. boiling H2O gives you H2O, so it`s not burning
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Male 522
I call bullpoo. This would not work. No chance, no way, no how. That is probably rubbing alcohol in the glass. I don`t care how many batteries you put in water or how long you leave them in there- water will never ever ever burn. Ever!
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Male 1
when you burn hydrogen that has accumulated at the top of say a test tube it combusts with a small pop. also in this case there would have had to have been a huge amount of hydrogen created to have it burn like it did. so obviously this electrolysis poo is bullpoo.
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Male 1,275
Who cares
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Male 1,023
Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:08:07 AM
The fumes that come from that are toxic.


nvm.

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Male 1,023
it could be some oil went into the water and since water floats the top would burn. it might also be mixed with some other chemicals so it doesn`t burn so quickly. I`m going to try this.
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Male 1,023
MechBFP is right. boiling water is just turning it from a liquid into a gas.
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Male 217
No it can`t but vodka can.
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Male 896
The easier way is just to add napalm to it. It floats and is pretty damn flammable.
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Female 546
The fumes that come from that are toxic.
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Male 49
the batteriers perform electrolysis to that water which weakens the bond between the oxygen and hydrogen bonds of the water.

Now you just burn the hydrogen in the water.
Basic chemistry guys....

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Male 25
can anyone tell me WHY people post these stupid fake videos?...im really intrugued (excuse my spelling) by this sciency kind of stuff. Why get peoples hopes up for nothing?...like the gowing mountain dew "trick"...i was so excited to try it..and then i did...and i was bummed..

i`d say thats pretty LAME

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Male 8
water can not burn. you can burn peas in boiling water but the water its self will not burn.
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Male 102
It as switched with rubbing alcohol. Duhh
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Male 315
I also attempted this in an effort to debunk it and had the same results as Todesauge: Wet matches.
I then replaced the water with rubbing alcohol and was rewarded with massive fiery success. I even skipped the batteries.
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Female 532
Thanks, Todesauge :-) I never would have gotten off my ass to try it for myself, so...

Here`s a trick to make water burn:

Add a smidgen of gasoline or oil. Shh! Don`t tell!

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Male 1,072
I hate all this fake poo!

LIKE i can make water turn into wine.

"Beaker full of water add a mystery chemical wait 10 minutes and look at water woohoo WINE!!!!!one!!!111"

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Male 57
okie dokie done with the experiment, I don`t own a camera so you`ll have to take my word on this.
After doing this apparent miracle myself I have come to the conclusion it is indeed fake. Per the videos instructions, I put two normal AA energizer batteries in a glass of ordinary water from the refrigerator(I attempted to fill an equally sized glass with the same amount of water as close as possible to the video), and waited the prescribed 30-40 minutes, after which I attempted to light said "water" with both wooden and cardboard matches, neither produced a flame on the water but simply burnt my finger... it is my opinion that this movie is a falsehood.

if you don`t believe me go ahead and try it yourself.

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Male 57
I was close enough,"oxygen is an accelerator not a fuel." ~error corrected~
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Male 1,072
Fires need Oxygen as the fuel as far as im concerned
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Male 3
Oxygen isnt actually flamable by itself, pure oxygen wont burn. However, oxygen makes everything around it extremely flamable, explosivley flamable. This includes particles in the air. If ya dont believe me look it up.
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Male 459
"boiling water isn`t burning you retards."

stick your finger in that boiling water and see if it burns.

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Female 1,496
Now drink it ass muncher.
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Female 299
"anywho... off to try it!"
You must share the results when you are done! Im curious to see if this actually works.
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Female 299
I`m pretty sure he changed the liquid...but if it was water, since there is a new chemical added into the water, its not really water anymore. So its not actually burning the water, but burning whatever chemicals the batteries left in the water.
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Male 57
I should try this personally to see if it is indeed an interesting quirk of water, or a badly created hoax.

really thinking abut it though water itself is confusing, hydrogen alone is flammable and oxygen is as well, so combining the two should make an extremely volatile explosive, but thanks to some odd twist of physics it actually puts out fire instead of combusting into a horrible mess... freaking backward liquid.

anywho... off to try it!

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Male 813
^no poo
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Male 27
However it`s done is really not the issue, it`s whether or not you can drink the "water" after the flame is out. If drinking it makes you sick or die, then there`s an additive that`s not digestible. Which all means that it`s not water, it`s water+. You can`t make water alone burn like that.
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Male 57
thusly why only the top burns
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Male 813
Hydrogen is a gas, oxygen is a gas, they would both float away considering they are less dense than air.
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Male 57
the burning is most likely caused by hydrogen released due to the electric current from the batteries moving through the water and separating the hydrogen and oxygen from each other, then again it is certainly possible he switched the liquid... but whatever.
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Female 235
I think it`s because the batteries contain some chemical, which gets released into the water. When you light the `water` (really a mix of water + chemical) the chemical burns. Notice that the water doesn`t actully burn - just the top. Nice party trick - but it`d be hard to explain why you had to leave the batteries in there...
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Male 134
Lol, making fun of Mech`s name because he is right and you are wrong, good display of maturity there, 1011872. And this video did not alleviate my boredom at all.
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Male 189
Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.
LoL at the second and third posts.
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Male 189
Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41:50 AM
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.
LoL at the second and third posts.
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Male 86
Does the BFP in your name happen to stand for "Big Fat Pussy"?
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Male 813
boiling water isn`t burning you retards.
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Male 2,216
Thats what I was thinking, 1011872.

I was like "well of course water can burn, hence boiling water!"

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Male 86
Um, you boil it?

That`s how I get my water to burn.

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Male 17
How does this get posted?

The guy obviously changes the liquid in the so called `30 Minute` Break.

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Male 552
Link: Water Can Burn? [Rate Link] - Trick to make water burn.
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