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Um, ok. Except for the fact that for this to be as the guy said, trees would have to be around while the comits were bringing water. As we all know life came from the oceans first, trees came much, much later.
There is more but i am running out of characters. This "theory" makes no sense. This is the worst theory i have ever heard and yes i am including creationism. They at least have an explanation even though it is an asinine one.
Ranting is just fine, but please get your facts straight (or at least in a semblance of a logical argument) before doing so.
`The increase in size would cause an increase in gravity, which would noticbly alter the orbit of the moon.`No, it wouldn`t. An increase in size would do nothing to the moons orbit. An increase in -mass- would. Read the link in my previous post. You might learn something.
`Also the Big Rip theory ... says that every particle in the universe is slowly getting farther away from every other particle.`An object with mass will attract another object with mass, regardless of how finite that pull is. Hence gravity. May never see each other, but the forces are there. Without another force acting on it, that statement will not be true, regardless of who states or paraphrases it.
The whole `Ice Age theory` stems from the fact that there was water there to begin with in order for the world to be predominately (not completely) ice. And the whole point of the argument was where the water originally came from. I do understand where you`re coming from (and yes, it makes sense).A similar argument for your Ice Age question would be to put it like this: My bathtub fills with water when I turn on the tap. You miss the fact however, that the water needs to be pumped into your house to begin with.Hope that helps.
TapirUnge:Yes and no. Mass affects gravity. More mass, more gravity. However, density also affects gravity. The less dense the object, the larger it is, the further you are from the center and thus the less hold gravity has on you.Usually.Here`s a site that expains it a little easier, perhaps.
the stupidity of some people baffles me.
Actually, they`re called Mid Oceanic Ridges, but never mind...
I refer you to my earlier post. The entire Pacific Rim (largest single plate on Planet Earth) is subducting at EVERY SINGLE plate boundary. This is a serious amount of subduction, approximately equal to the amount of crust created at Mid-Oceanic Ridges on a global scale.
I`m a professional geologist (I work for a supermajor oil company, and have a PhD in Geology, I am not getting my information from Wikipedia). We geologists base our search for oil on currently accepted plate tectonic models which do not involve an expanding earth. If we based our ideas on a model of earth expanding from a condition of NO OCEANS (where most of the major oil-generating "source rocks" are created), we would find nothing and be out of a job pretty fast.
Never mind the theoretical implications, look at the practical ones!
New Material isn`t simply appearing. Metals Expand when they transition from Solid to Liquid. The Earth has a Solid Iron Core, surrounded by Liquid Iron. The Core is the correct temperature to melt and become liquid but the Pressure exerted upon it by Gravity Holds it in a Solid State.
If the Gravitational force were decreased (Through expansion for example)then hypothetically the lower pressure would allow some of that Solid Material to Liquefy and Expand.
I am not sold on either theory as being a Silver Bullet, it may well be a combination of the two that bears out to be true.
Geologists have a History established by the Channeled Scablands Debate as having difficulty in accepting new theories. This may be no differen
for all you science-philes out there. . .is Europe getting closer to America or is Calf and the orient closing the great Pacific Gap? If the plates are moving and shifting is going on. . .surface is finite than something must be getting closer together.
Is the Atlantic Ridge Expanding? Then the Pacific must be shrinking?
Trouble with science sometimes is it gets all scientific. . .and it can`t see there are no tail marks. <g> Many things rise without "creating matter". . .gases, heat always help. . .ask any person who cooks. . .those two things account for some of the yummiest things to come out of a kitchen. . .breads and cakes.
Plus the scientific blinders prevent one from looking at the earth as a living thing. We know what a dead planet looks like.. .. to live. . .there is growth.
So do you live on a live planet or a dead one?
Forget the thing about water, it`s a distraction from the real problem with this theory. This entire "theory" hangs on the fact of there being "NO SUBDUCTION" today. Utter horsewank. The entire Pacific Ocean is subducting at every margin. That`s why the entire Pacific Rim from Chile to Alaska, from Siberia to New Zealand, is known as the Ring of Fire. 90% of the world`s earthquakes and 75% of the world`s volcanoes occur along this margin. This is because it`s one big-ass subduction zone (compare with Atlantic which is not subducting- think Mount St Helens, US earthquakes, all west coast i.e. above the subduction zone)
This is NOT what any reasonable person would call "localised subduction".
That`s a lot of volcanic activity."
We don`t have that much
Actually the Greeks new the world was round.
This guy is NOT A SCIENTIST! Ok, lets just ignore for a second the hundreds of years of ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC PROOF that we actually have to the contrary... look at the way that he expands the earth. Why does it fit so well? BECAUSE HE MORPHS IT! Watch it very closely. The end result and the beginning scenarios that he uses aren`t shaped the same, he modifies them as he goes as a morphed video.
Sorry for sounding pretentious and rambling on, but people like this just piss me off. They preach about things that they haven`t bothered to actually think about and study, and pass it off to the unknowing public as real. They don`t care at all about how much they`re slowing down our understanding of the world around us.
If I could explain away my structural geology class with - THE EARTH IS EXPANDING! - that would make things so much simpler.
Soooooo many issues with this thing. What I`d like to know is where the oceanic plate material older than Jurassic went on the coast of N. America... unless of course the earth only started expanding in the Jurassic, which leaves a good 4.4 billion years uncovered...
And I`d also like an explanation of how we get earthquakes at 10 km depth and what`s up with the Marianas trench.
Fail. Crackpot science makes me laugh.
That`s a lot of volcanic activity.
"if the earth gained a bunch of mass wouldnt it spiral us right into the sun/"-carldec
No, actually it wouldn`t. The only thing that would spiral us into the sun would be a loss of inertia. Forward momentum. A slowing down of the earth as it travels away from the sun. If the earth gained mass for one reason or another, it would only move the barycenter. Slightly.
To those claiming that a whole bunch of comets crashed into earth: Comet`s don`t work that way. Nor are they that abundant.
If the Earth`s Gravity were decreasing through expansion, then the force required to maintain Iron in a Solid State at such Extremes would decrease causing some of the Solid Iron to Liquefy and Expand. The expansion of the Planet manifest on the surface but actually takes place near the center of the Earth.
I am not going to blindly dismiss the possibility that this is true without further investigation. The only Constant is Change I will guarantee everyone that reads this that what we know is not the sum of what we have learned.
It is widely accepted that Life on earth began in the oceans. A significantly higher Gravitational Pull would be less bothersome to a creature suspended in Water.
I would be interested to see what correlation there might be between the Rate of Expansion of the Earth and the increasing distance between the earth and the moon.
If the Moon were in a much tighter Orbit with the earth historically, lunar gravity would have potentially compressed the earth into a denser sphere.
Actually, r isn`t the radius of an object, it`s the DISTANCE between two objects.
So as long as the Earth`s mass and the distance between the Earth and the Sun remained constant, the force of gravity wouldn`t change.
The size of our Earth when all the continets fit together and little or no water is visible in most places would be roughly smaller or bigger than our own moon. This isn`t exactly "impossible" as is witnessed with Pluto, but seems odd none-the-less.
It is hard to imagine life would`ve evolved on a planet covered in mostly land.
His theory that what we see as "plates spreading from eachother" would mean places in which tectonic plates are colliding would somehow mean the Earth is shrinking, but only in those spots?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM LAERNING
"The concentrations of different volcanic gases can vary considerably from one volcano to the next. Water vapor is typically the most abundant volcanic gas, followed by carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide. "
"Volcanic activity releases about 130 to 230 teragrams (145 million to 255 million short tons) of carbon dioxide each year."
Do the math using this figure as a low estimate seeing as they state that more water vapor is created than CO2.
Stars don`t grow. They expand, meaning they become less dense and the matter spreads out. They never gain any matter. Growing requires a gain of matter. Matter doesn`t just pop out of no where.
The fact that matter isn`t created or distroyed, and they`re no way there`s enough energy in to core of the earth to be turned into matter in order to fuel this "growth" disproves this theory.
Anyways did you see how much effort was put in the animations it`s ridiculous.
..lol, laughed my ass off at that part.
It be cool If it were true I guss...
The way he fit the continents at the end didn`t really look very authentic, especially Northern Canada. Considering the fact that the earth is round, it isn`t any weirder that plates shifted in the Arctic and Antarctic.
Lol but no. This theory doesn`t say that. I understand it as the oceans grew into being. Think of it this way: You have a baby and you put some clothes on the baby and never take them off. The baby (oceans) gets bigger but the clothes (land) stays the same size.
That may have just been the most retarded thing I`ve said all day, but that`s how I see it.
As for where the water comes from: maybe there was water already above the continents/etc while the earth was expanding, but as it expanded, the water didn`t expand with it. Thus, land is uncovered and the water creates oceans. *shrugs* /end random guess
WHAT in the hell does that have to do with this video?"
Because it would have turned the Earth into so much debris.
THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is the REAL Big Bang theory.
You don`t get what im saying. im not saying it all came from one Comet. im saying it might`ve came from Several Billion comets over a period of millions of years. So don`t go saying my posts are Bullsh*t When You don`t even Know what the hell im talking about. Ok? And Before you try to put me in my place Why don`t you learn to spell the word "Comet"?
MrMongoose - He repeats that because over the centuries many people who advanced theories we now accept as right were persecuted or killed for going against "common knowledge". Heard of Galilao?RubyStars - You are correct! The only other surviveing monotreme critter is the spiney anteater of Africa. As far as I know anyhow.YellowSquare - our days have gotten longer, but not by a whole lot. I too wonder about the changes in gravity & planetary orbits. This theory is far from perfect eh?More:
Lizard point in Cornwall is known to be an `ophiolite` - a piece of ocean floor that has become emplaced onto the continent - by a major continent-continent collision.
The lizard has been dated to 397 ± 2 Million years ago.
Thus there was certainly ocean floor around hundreds of millions of years ago.
Plate tectonics has been one of the most successful theories in geology, and transformed the subject. There`s a wealth of evidence in its favour, and the bar is set very high indeed for alternative hypotheses.
This person denies subduction; it`s a very natural process. The old oceanic crust (more strictly, oceanic lithosphere) is MORE DENSE than the mantle (strictly, asthenosphere) beneath it, because it`s made (mostly) of the same stuff but is colder. It`s NATURAL that it sinks.
The moon isn`t a planet, it`s a satellite.
So America won`t have a weight problem after some time: as the Earth grows more (assuming it just hasn`t stopped for whatever reason), we will all lose weight as gravity pulls weaker. No more Jennie Craig!
From a purely common sense point of view, the earth is cooling and thus if anything would be shrinking.
anyway, i do belive this does have some truth about it.
Hell you could use that as a reason for global warming, energy from the magma must go somewhere, cooling the oceans etc...blah blah blah
Anyway, back on point...The expantion of the expanding seabed would also cause the tectonic plates to grind together, since its pushing them appart, causing mountains, earth quakes etc, would it not? but also, this extra mass is Adding to the plates, not the land size, but the parts of the plates underneath the oceans, supporting the theory that the earth is getting bigger, but also that there is tectonic shift.
As the video said, magma is coming through the giant cracks in the ocean floor, making the Seabed spread, not the land, the land stays the same size, it`s just getting pushed appart.
Where did all the matter come from? Well since the magma in the centre of the earth is more dence then granite, because of the high amount of pressure its under, when it reached the suface of the sea bed, it would obviously be under less pressure, thus dispursing...so there for the same amount of matter exists, but is less dence.
Let me explain it in laments terms. You go into space, complete vaccuum, no pressure, you take off your space suit, yummy, whole lot of mess...
well, its the same thing with this, the magma comes from being under huge amount of pressure, which also causes the heat at which its kept at, is leaked onto the sea bed, and expands, pushing the plates appart...also suporting the theory of the earth cooling.
That bit about Mars isn`t true. Not all planets are tectonically active. The Moon is one of the planets that isn`t, and it has a vastly different surface structure.
When all the continents were together, why was there no frozen north/south pole?? A pole is still cold no matter if it`s covered in land or covered in water.
What about our years? Have our years lengthened in that amount of time? If Earth`s mass is increasing, wouldn`t the velocity at which it traveled around the sun begin to slow down?
And how do you explain earthquakes then, if there are no tectonic plates rubbing against each other?
I think this guy has an interesting hypothesis, but it`s nothing more. There`s too many holes in his argument.
Mountains, raised land due to tectonic collision.Earthquakes, vibration due to "rubbing" of plates during tectonic movement.
Plates move. This guy fails."
But he explains mountains in another video. It makes sense.http://www.continuitystudios.net/mountai...
I am however, open for other suggestions.
Once it hits the atmosphere its caught in the air as vapor and the vapor condenses into clouds and the clouds produce rain. And what do you think fills up rivers and oceans and stuff? And even if its a little bit at a time Over millions of year it adds up.
But who knows? no one will ever know for sure. Its impossible to tell.
Thats what i heard. Comets are Just Chunks of ice in space so it makes Sense.
Plates move. This guy fails.
Dude there are so many unexplained things in the universe. And there are many things that we will never understand. so just because Something you see doesn`t match up with a textbook that you read before You shouldn`t be so quick to throw it out the window.
Comets. turn to the science Channel once in awhile.
Note: The dinosaurs where wiped out by a rock with a diameter less than 15 km."
WHAT in the hell does that have to do with this video?
.... What?... this has nothing to do with something hitting the earth. it explains the theory that the earth is expanding.
Note: The dinosaurs where wiped out by a rock with a diameter less than 15 km.