Student Tased at John Kerry Speech

Submitted by: buddy 9 years ago in
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I guess you"re not supposed to ask questions about Skull and Bones?
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Male 907
Kretain, judging by your pathetic attempt at spelling and grammar, I`ve clearly done a lot more reading than you have so you shouldn`t be one to talk.

1. It`s illegal to do WHATEVER you want to yourself when it could endanger others and disturb the peace.

a) It`s illegal to kill yourself. Okay, and so if you do, then you`re dead. At that point I don`t think legal issues are a big concern.

b) Smoking marijauna can make people do some stupid sh*t that could endanger others or yourself, or at least that`s what stands to reason for now. If enough people support the legalization of weed, then it will be legalized.

c) It`s not illegal, [email protected] Like I said 3 years ago, the police isn`t the be-all and end-all. You go to court. That`s how "me justice system works".
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Male 8
ohh yea, almost forgot.. you justice system works *snicker*
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Male 8
PayN8tention, please read up on what the drat your talking about.. this is quite typical for the US, however sence it is so drating typical, youo have learned not to question your cov, or to do things that the gov told you not to.
But still the gov sais "we are all free and other countries hate our freedome", have you ever asked yourself; "why is it illegal for me to do WHATEVER i want to myself?", if your country is so free and just, why is it illegal to kill yourself? or why is it illegal to smoke a joint? or why is it illegal to.. oh idunno.. ask the president if he was in a sectret society that presumably rules the whole of congress in your "oh-so-free-country" ...
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Male 42
Took the words out of my mouth, Vogt.
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Male 287
Don`t tase me, bro!
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Male 1,853
what happened to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and all the other things that the constitution gave us? are we just supposed to throw all of that out the window? it might be resisting arrest, but there was know reason to arrest him in the first place!
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Male 907
In short, the people you saw don`t hold all authority. NO ONE is above the law, and the legislative branch sees to that.
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Male 907
Okay, we all have our opinions on the video, but why the hell do people find this as another opportunity to bash on the US?
I understand that the US has been a country for other countries to poke fun at, but it`s silly to pick on US as a place of limited freedom or being unjust.
Call us fat, stupid, ignorant, or oblivious to the rest of the world, but we sure as hell have got freedom and are always fair.
I can`t hold a strong opinion of this one way or the other because I can`t judge just from what I see here. There may be a whole other part to this that I didn`t see, and I`m sure the same applies to a lot of these other posters.
The biggest point I would like to say is even if the authorities were irrational with their actions, THEY STILL GO TO COURT. That`s where justice (usually) prevails. Freedom is respected, and if it is violated, then the necessary consequences will follow.
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Female 130
You might be able to notice that handcuffs were on him BEFORE they tasered him. The taser is only to be used to subdue the "criminal" enough to make the arrest. But the officers just didn`t want to play by the rules.
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Male 4
Is the record of what Kerry said during the whiny boy`s screaming anywhere on the internet? I`d like to read it.
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Female 14
Oh man, if there`s a reaction now, can you imagine the uproar if this was at a Bush event?
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Male 63
"` freedom of speech doesn`t mean you get to go where you want when you want and start screaming about the war or whatever you feel like ("skull and bones").`


Oh Okay, I see, the U.S has it`s own definition of Freedom of speech. Just like they have their own way of spelling English words and measuring things. What a strange little world you live in."


Thats not what I said, I said that he can say what he wants as long as he says it where he`s allowed (if its on private property) or in a public place. I`m pretty sure the cops were going to escort him off the campus or maybe just out of the building. But then he started yelling and pushing cops, THAT IS A CRIME. And what you said about America measuring things. If you knew poo about history, you would know that the English used the customary/ imperial units of measurement (American in YOUR little world)until the late 90`s. And still use it today- The Units of Measurement Regulations of 1995

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Male 957
These fascists really disturb me. There`s no freedom of speech if thugs can just act like this. There was no basis for the arrest and especially the tasing. If I were this guy I wouldn`t stop speaking out! I`d also sue everyone involved and keep saying the same thing. I agree with this guy- I never liked Kerry. The pro-taser people have no real argument except an ad-hominem against the guy and people who know their rights! They should go live in Myanmar and get shot, gassed, and worse by the police there!
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Male 108
The guy was being escorted out of the building, not arrested. He had the option of going quietly, but instead wanted to make a scene. Contrary to European belief America is not a "police state". If this guy had done this anywhere else but a semi-private forum, he would have been left alone. There are people out on the streets every day handing out pamphlets that in any country with less constitutional values might be arrested. That being said, I doubt anyone would listen to him as most Americans are more down to earth and understand that conspiracy theories are usually the work of fiction. Our government is doing a bad job, of course. I attest that mostly to the fact that as a nation we are so divided. Liberals and conservatives need to join forces to help us make a better country and get ourselves out of the hole which I believe we can. Lots of countries like to say we have no spirit and no culture, yet living here I say we have just as much as any other country. Let`s do it
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Male 13
drat THE POLICE
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Female 553
Oh, and yes, "flailing limbs" can be considered lethal force. And like someone else said, it`s for these instances that the Taser is so popular.

Would you rather the guy get shot or tased? Opportunity, Intent, Ability: those three must be completed to warrant LETHAL force; the Taser is considered "Less Lethal" force. And lethal force (guns) are just that: Lethal Force.

Police are trained "Shoot to Kill." It`s too risky to even TRY the "Oh, just shoot his leg and carry him out." Yeah right! Look at the effects of the Taser. That guy walked out unharmed!

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Female 553
I GOT TASED LAST WEEK!!
Police demonstration! It`s NOT that bad!!!

"Scalawag, in case you`re too thick to understand, there are ways to remove an offender that don`t involve 1000kV of electricity. "
Learn some basics. It is not Volts that do damage, it`s the JOULES. Tasers have less than ONE joule, while pace makers are on average 300 joules. So to the person who knows a 17 year old with a pacemaker, it doesn`t mean anything!!

Trust me. I`ve sat through the official Taser presentation two times, and been Tased.

Even if a person is handcuffed, they can STILL KILL, but from this video alone, I couldn`t tell whether he was handcuffed yet or not. The point is he was verbally warned several times, and he still didn`t comply. So he got what he deserved.

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Female 54
What a dick. I would`ve shot him.
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Male 159
The taser was designed for that type of situation!
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Female 26
I agree that this guy did step out of line. You should obey police orders in this case, even if you do not agree with their reasoning. But I do not believe that the taser was the right step to take. Personally, I was more worried to think that the police could take this action upon someone, without knowing about their medical condition.

This is not a question of free speech because the guy clearly was being allowed to ask his questions, but more a question of whether the police were right in the action they took physically?

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Male 19
English and americans are rarely right in the head. That`s why they lost the war.
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Male 19
Oh, and also...drat the police.
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Male 19
Well done, Yankees, keep killing your liberties and avoid helping other people.
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Female 53
If you think it`s ok for 6 police officers to claim that one individual, who had no weapons except for his own voice oh yeah and `flailing limbs`, was `out of control` enough to use a TASER on him. That is ridiculous. I hope they lose their jobs. They could control him. They are police officers and they have handled much worse scenarios than a student `acting out of control`. These disgusting power hungry pigs need to be put in place.

I have never been arrested. I have had a few things happen to me because some dough nut starved pig needed to meet his quota. I have been around long enough to know that if you follow authority blindly you are either crooked yourself or stupid.

I just pray anyone that thinks these actions by these cops was called for never get elected into any type of authority position. I hope some power hungry pig tases you for no good reason. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It happens to innocent people everyday, you could be next.

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Female 706
I don`t see why the kid was being taken away by the police in the first place. Yes, he was being a total dick. But Kerry should debate people like that just like he would anyone else.
The kid`s questions were rude and the way he presented them was childish but he has the right to ask them.
There might be more to this story than I know, and I admit I might be wrong, but if all he was doing was asking pissy questions, then there`s no reason to not to hear them and let Kerry respond.
If he would have presented negative questions in a mature way, (like without insisting on asking three questions at once and including language like blowjobs) maybe the police wouldn`t have tried to stop him. He could have asked his questions much more gracefully.
But once he was getting taken away by the police, he should have just let them. You can`t convince the officers that they`re wrong for taking you, so you can only make things worse.
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Male 159
AKappy... read the last few lines of what I posted. It basically says what you said, but mine was written in a moment of frustration.
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Male 65
The college is PRIVATE AREA!

He is allowed to scream with a damn megaphone on the sidewalk an inch away from college-owned sidewalk! However, the GODDAMN COLLEGE controls all actions inside the college.

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Male 162
aqausixio, Do you think I should be allowed to come into your house and start screaming about whatever I wanted? Going into a college auditorium is the same thing. they can make rules, and can take you away if you don`t obey them. This kid was kicking and yelling, and when the police got him on the ground, he did not stop, a police officer told him they would taser him if he didn`t stop, he didn`t, so they tasered him. sucks for him, but he could have easily avoided it.
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Male 1,725
i saw this on the news a few days ago
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Male 2,616
Anyone who is afraid for the future because of "stupid kids" is an idiot. The country is full of extremely intelligent and capable young people, and THOSE are going to be the ones in positions of authority, not the average idiot.
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Male 90
pwnt
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Female 1,397
" freedom of speech doesn`t mean you get to go where you want when you want and start screaming about the war or whatever you feel like ("skull and bones")."


Oh Okay, I see, the U.S has it`s own definition of Freedom of speech. Just like they have their own way of spelling English words and measuring things. What a strange little world you live in.

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Male 506
He needed to be taken out of there, but they didn`t have to taze him with 6 cops all around him.
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Male 63
I love how when America fudges up, like every European is commenting and rubbing it in our face. Restriction of rights should not be taken lightly. I`m sure if you Europeans actually believed that in the U.S. this happens all the time you would be appalled. But no, you just like to gossip and make fun of independent incidents. Second, freedom of speech doesn`t mean you get to go where you want when you want and start screaming about the war or whatever you feel like ("skull and bones"). This was at a college. If the college doesn`t want you there and asks you to leave and you don`t; the cops have the authority to drag you out. If you start flailing your arms around and screaming, you will be cuffed. You don`t have to be arrested but they can cuff you just to escort you out but if the do arrest you, you can be held for 24 hours before the charge you. So, you drating Eurotrash can shut up. B-l
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Female 666
I heard the kid was pulling a prank
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Male 73
screw all of this political bs the kid deserved it and needs to learn when to stfu. Christ! he acted like a little kid!
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Male 108
@manorrd

next to usa, brazil is a paradise of freedom. we do have problems, big problems, freedom however is not one of them.

we can even make public statements of corruption, we can run screaming all the b*lls*it we want about or presidents, teachers, lawyers... thats freedom of speech.

i would say that perhaps we have too much freedom.

however, venezuela is another story....

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Male 3
mouf: You very much quite OBVIOUSLY were not even PRESENT at this rally. (FIVE of my friends were, and told the exact same story.) He was NOT behind "one" person and "waited" for his turn. He was in the far BACK of the line because he`d waited until the end to EVEN BOTHER SHOWING UP. He arrived for the SOLE purpose of causing trouble. When they announced "last question" he CHARGED to the front of the line PUSHING PAST people who had been there for an hour. THAT is why the cops were already next to him when the video starts. Talk about spouting half-truths... You blatantly lied.
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Male 3
Has nothing to do with the questions he asked. The prick charged to the front of the line AFTER they`d already said "last question." Why do you think there are already cops by him? Then after they turned off the mics, he continued to rant, then resist arrest. He got what he deserved.
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Male 159
It really amazes me how some of you even function in everyday life. It really does. You kids are right, the future of our country really is in danger. What do we have to look forward to? The likes of YOU running our country?? That scares the hell out of me!! Everyone wants to be the next big "Freedom Fighter". That poor sap`s rights were NOT violated. As it`s been pointed out, he did not follow the rules. When asked to leave, he AGAIN did not follow the rules. When told he was under arrest, he AGAIN didn`t follow the rules! See a pattern?? What did he expect the outcome of all that to be? Was he expecting the crowd to hoist him up on their shoulders and give him three cheers? He`s an idiot, and forever will be treated as such.
I hope the youth of IAB is not a true representation of the youth of our country. I`m guessing it`s probably not. I would imagine the youth that will end up being our future leaders are probably applying their time to something more productive.
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Male 108
This is the great legal system at work huh? No wonder the rest of the world thinks the US are faggots!!!
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Male 14
to be polite :O
(Look up)
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Male 14
"And to you other retards, protecting this guy is like protecting the child that began to hit a priest with a skateboard (while ago, in cali i think). Basically, the priest knocked the kid out with a punch. Its called `self defense`. A kid can cause problems with a skateboard.

Freedom of speech is allowed. The recipient of your speech`s response is also allowed. He was a `disturbance`. He can voice his opinion, but he NEEDS to calm the drat down and request to be allowed to speak, and once he is dismissed he mustallow himself to be sat down."

Truly, this is amazing. This poster compares being hit with a skateboard to being asked a question and talked to. I agree. The first case is self-defense. The latter? Not so much.

They accused the man of "trying to incite a riot," as you can see from one of the videos. From the looks of it, he was speaking quickly, loudly, and in an arrogant fashion. But I don`t recall any clause in the First Amendment that says you have

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Male 14
Here`s ANOTHER great quote. Woo, woo! All aboard the ignorance train!

"If the man wants to exercise his free speech, why doesn`t he make his OWN event? I mean damn, barging into John Kerry`s event and hijacking it isn`t the same as free speech. What about Kerry`s free speech?

If you see the whole video, you can see him screaming "They`re going to turn me into the government! They`re going to kill me!" Silly moonbats."

The part we`re interested in is the first paragraph. Allow me to paraphrase this little tidbit of knowledge.

"If the man wants to practice his freedom of speech, let him do it on his own! In the presence of others? Absolutely ridiculous! By giving him free speech around others, they don`t get that same freedom of speech at the exact moment(s) he is speaking!

(Useless statement that assures my point, or, at least, I think... instead, it just makes me look like a hypocritical jerk-off :O"

See what I did there?

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Male 14
For those of you who keep quoting half-truths and false stories, the true story is this: He cut in line in front of one other student, because they said that that speaker would be the last. It WAS a Q&A, btw. They told him to wait his turn; that, after the last student spoke, he could take his turn as well. He waited, and then took the podium.

The kid is an idiot; a showboat, pompous, arrogant douchebag. But you don`t just beat everyone`s ass for personality flaws. There`d be a lot of seriously injured people in America. I honestly don`t care that they TASERed him, specifically. What I care about is the gross encroachment upon our basic(est) civil rights. If a couple of campus police cops can override the authority of the Constitution of the U.S., our highest governing law, then... where is the U.S. headed? Besides total economic disarray and a huge debt bill, of course. :O

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Male 14
The best post by far so far, by BigBonny:

"Freedom or not, if the police ask you something, do it, if you dont do it and they make you move, let them, and co operate, if you dont, they`ll try and arrest/restrain you, if you then start shouting and resisting and acting up, then EXPECT this sort of treatment.

Dumbass."

For those of you that, perhaps, didn`t catch the humor in that, let me paraphrase.

"Cops have every right to override the basic principles of the Constitution and it`s Amendments. Obey your government! Go silently!

Dumbass."

The paraphrased statement highlights the irony that the first user did not intend.

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Male 1,275
So what happened here is the guy decised that he was going to push his way through and take on the guy even though it was not a q and a. Then when being removed he lost his nerve, and didnt want to be the rebel any more. He freaked and resisted, thus the reason he was officoly put under arrest. After being warned several times to calm down he still would not thus they had no other real option but to taze him. If you want to be a rebel thats cool, im one my self but you cant back pedal once the glorys over and then expect to avoid punishment, it just doesnt work that way. Its a good lesson for this guy. I still feel for him though.
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Male 319
IF the guy was really interested in free speech, he wouldn`t have cut off the few students that lined up orderly to talk and rant over everyone else.

PEople talk about free speech, but when it coems to allowing others to do so, apparently that`s not allowed.

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Male 65
This is what tasering does: humilitation. He has no more respect in his `peers` the people he tried to talk too. He`s been screaming like a baby talking about him being `opressed` and then screamed like a friggin baby when he got tasered.

Think about it, if the same goshdarn thing happened to you, would you do it again, even if there were no police there, now that everyone knows what happened? Would anyone take you seriously?

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Male 1,882
Make that "...turn me in to the government!"
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Male 194
well this is freedom at its high point.
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Male 1,882
If the man wants to exercise his free speech, why doesn`t he make his OWN event? I mean damn, barging into John Kerry`s event and hijacking it isn`t the same as free speech. What about Kerry`s free speech?

If you see the whole video, you can see him screaming "They`re going to turn me into the government! They`re going to kill me!" Silly moonbats.

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Male 75
get used to this type of censorship if socialists like hillary or kerry are elected.
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Male 994
I have to say the guy was a bit of a loud mouth.

While the police had the right to escort him off the taser pushed it to over reaction.

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Male 98
Um. See, my problem here is. You see nothing to lead up to it. So you don`t know how much of a problem he was being. And you also don`t see what he`s doing when he gets tazed, if he was really tazed. (can not see the actual tazing) he could have been just fake screaming, creating a scene. The camera conveniently drops out of view at that point. I do know that after a person tries to push me, run, run back in, push me again, and won`t shut up when asked to be quiet, I`m not inclined to believe him when he screams "I`ll leave peacefully."
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Male 22
VIVE LA RESISTANCE!!
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Male 31
he was a dumb a**. When you look at the facts. This guy set up this whole thing. Turning off the mike would have done nothing. Ignoring him would have had no effect. He was only there to cause trouble, he`s kind of known for that. The use of the taser was completely within reason. If the perp is within 21 feet, they can cause serious bodily harm to the responding officer. If you don`t believe that the freedom of speech is in trouble, simply watch any U.S. University when a consevative is speaking, they will be harassed even by the ex-hippy professors. This was a total set up by an idiot. They told him repeatidly to stop resisting or he would be tased, he had it coming. BTW the officers were suspended with pay as is required after any officer is involved in a similar incident pending internal investigation. The moron who said "police brutality" should be tased
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Male 22
redflare so insted of taking him to the car and geting him out of the building where he would not be a distraction. you tasser the guy so he yells in pain in front of everyone.i fail to see how tassering a man makes less of a scene then removing him from the building.

and if he didnt shut up the first 50 times they asked him to then why would the police expect he would after they pined him to the ground?

Oh and to MuseofSatie yes i did wonder that. lol

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Female 31
Oh and If Kerry were president who knows what would have happened after 9-11. the guy had no will power . and before all you 13-17(i am 18 i use my sisters account to lazy to make my own.) and Europeans say i love Bush i am a registered Moderate meaning i am right in between. Oh and all you Bush Bashers are dumb as hell. There is so much you can say about a guy before you sound like the moron.
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Female 31
The Europeans are pretty funny about the free speech thing. How many video games get banned in Europe. here in America as soon as someone tries to ban one it is freedom of speech buddy. SO You Europeans fail hard when it comes to Freedom of speech.
And stop defending the guy. You see half the story and your like AH freedom of speech being violated. Grow up and learn the whole story.
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Male 65
And to you other retards, protecting this guy is like protecting the child that began to hit a priest with a skateboard (while ago, in cali i think). Basically, the priest knocked the kid out with a punch. Its called `self defense`. A kid can cause problems with a skateboard.

Freedom of speech is allowed. The recipient of your speech`s response is also allowed. He was a `disturbance`. He can voice his opinion, but he NEEDS to calm the drat down and request to be allowed to speak, and once he is dismissed he mustallow himself to be sat down.

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Male 65
You friggin Europeans never cease to amaze me. Now, if this was an open Q and A session, and the guy was given a chance to go up there and talk, then he could shout and poo. This was a speach. The guy charged up there and grabbed the microphone. The police were trying not to make a scene, and at that point if you idiots couldn`t see well enough, they were having to do something. They couldn`t transport him in a cop car kicking and screaming, eh?

So, let me guess, when I go to speaches in the EU you guys let retards shout and scream while you give your presentation?

What do you think?
...yea, I thought so.

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Male 4
I think that was wrong, and the police are at fault. I believe legal charges are valid against police.
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Female 67
"Am I the only one who was waiting for him to call out "Help! Help! I`m being repressed"

I first saw the clip while I was sitting in a doctor`s office. I had to really restrain myself from yelling out "I`m being repressed" after each time he yelled "Help!"

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Male 2,372
[quote]On 9/19/2007 9:34:21 PM Shiruba wrote: I just love how americans like to push the word "freedom" on everyone´s throats. open mouth. get tazed.[/quote]
Unlike the Utopian model of free speech that exists in South America, eh Shiruba?

There`s no place on earth that allows freer speech than the USA, regardless of all her other faults. That`s just a fact.

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Male 317
I`ve seen this on the local news for the past couple days. At first, only the second half of the video was shown, making it look like the cops were at fault. Now that the whole video is being shown it does look like the kid went out of lines quite a bit resisting arrest or detainment from the cops. Either way, the kid is in some serious crap now.
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Male 6
one thing these freedom of speech people should think about, what about John`s freedom of speech. The video did not show the whole event. This guy was grandstanding for several minutes when they asked him to leave. Also its a proven fact the more injuries occur when the physical force is used instead of tazers.
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Female 673
I don`t know if the police were right to arrest him, but the guy was an idiot for resisting the cops. I didn`t even see that they WERE arresting him at first, just getting him to leave. I didn`t see them arresting him until after the scene.
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Female 28
The_Sickness:

The police department is the University of Florida Police Department.

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Female 28
That last word is supposed to be "him" not "hi" >.>
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Female 28
Technically, yes, he should have been answered by the cops when he was asking why he was being arrested. If I was being rushed by a group of officers and being arrested without being told why, I would be a bit on edge too, mostly from the shock of realizing what was going on. And as others have said, I heard Kerry in the background saying that it was all right and that he`d answer the kid`s question. Maybe if Kerry had been a bit more louder with the statement. *shrugs*

I personally believe that the taser was uncalled for. To have six officers on top of someone, restraining them is more than enough, and judging by how the kid was putting his hands up before he was taken down, it looked like he didn`t even want to have a confrontation or put up that much of a fight anyways. At the very least they could have tried to calm the kid down first.

I think that there was no need for the police to take it that far right off though. Give him a warning, and if he doesn`t listen, then go at hi

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Male 48
someone reply to me with the name of the police station. Police brutality needs to be stopped and it proves to us that Kerry is worthless piece of poo because he did nothing to stop it.
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Male 13
Am I the only one who was waiting for him to call out "Help! Help! I`m being repressed
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Female 670
"I don`t know if anyone noticed, but as the cops were moving in on him, John Kerry said "That`s all right, let me answer his question." I don`t see what the big deal was. If the speaker was not bothered by his question, then there is no problem."
That`s what I was thinking. It didn`t seem like Kerry was bothered by the question.
Anyway, I think they took it a little overboard, but he was being a little... obnoxious. Still, no real need for a taser.
... plus, the whole thing was a little disturbing.
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Male 152
For some reason i am in love with SaraOfBorg..
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Male 108
I just love how americans like to push the word "freedom" on everyone´s throats.

open mouth. get tazed.

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Male 284
And to the "Europeans" who just ragged on our free speech be aware that some of YOUR leaders kiss ass and limit YOUR freedoms because of fear of the free speech that so blesses you fair countries. Remember the riots from a misunderstanding of a picture in a paper? Have you seen the ghettos that are no go zones for your police because of immagrents who are taking over using the pretext of equal rights and free speech?
I respect that you have your views but until you take into account the bad as well as the good of your own country don`t dare to try and teach me about my own laws, abuse my country then cry to use for help, or be eletist snobs from the safety of the your house.
To the Europeans who see both sides, even if you still don`t like the US, thank you for using your heads and not following the herd.
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Male 284
STOP WHINING ABOUT FREE SPEECH!
Every day I have to listen to liberal, republican, and democratic crap that is forced on me because of FREE SPEECH, the fact that you can even type this here, say your views in public seems to be taken for granted! One little kid runs into a room and dosn`t follow the rules there are CONSEQUENCES for not following the rules that the sheep no longer have the stomach for. Now everyone shouts how the police are wrong and how evil the United States is because of ONE stupid person, these very same people are the ones who fight against their own countries stereotyps and refuse to look past ours.
Skull and Bones is very Hush-Hush and saying it at a debate will launch it into mindless consperacy accusations. How would you deal with a public disruption? You can only be polite so long until you must display force with some people.
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Male 144
this was on the dutch news today, So much for `A free country`. Guess he wasnt in a free speech zone -_-

Skull and bones can break my bones but word will never hurt me.

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Male 151
OH MY GOD why the drat did they tazer him all he was doing was asking about a secret society that isnt even secret! abd he was already handcuffed so WHAT THE dratING HELL
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Male 3
Donnie Darko-ish
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Male 186
I`m not sure whats so hard to understand. The young man in the video decided to promote disruot a public assembly. He was aloud his question, but then attempted to incite. He was clearly asked to leave, but chose to yell out and continue to encite. Simply put, he attempted to make a statement, or be an ass, on his own behalf. He violated the rules and laws governing public assembly. At the moment an officer gives a lawful order, not following that order can result in arrest. The young man not only failed to follow any lawful order, but physically resisted when they attempted to escort him out. He continued to fail to follow lawful orders, which were repeated many times. He then struggled, known as resisting, with officers on the floor. He refused to comply and was tased. Screamed like a little girl and quit resisting. The taser worked in a situation it was intended for. Any other country the night sticks and fists would have been used to get him to comply. The taser is a great asset.
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Male 1,584
Well they could have atleast said something when he asked why he was being arrested. Then i think he would have shut up. The bastartd cops didnt answer when he was asking why he was being arrested. Which is illegal. Because we were talking about the constitution in my American history class today and i don`t remember the exact name (it was something Latin) but it stated all people have the right to know why they`re being arrested. i think it was "Corpus... something.... i donno. but they never told him why he was being arrested so he had every right to resist.
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Male 774
Ummm. No offense to all you un-Americans. You dont live here. dont criticise our policy and try to get us "The americans` in question, to move in with you. We know you want our coolness and hot bods and what not but jeesh. Ridiculous.

If we all move out of america, we just have more americas. We would be spreading our influence.

Anyways, this is a rare occurence. Ive been to open public Q andA`s with polit candidates, occasionally there is a heckler, but not to the point of tasering. Ridiculous questions are asked, ridic answers given.

This is not representative of America in a whole, if these were daily occurences, with the amount of people with video equip here in this country, the internet would be swamped with vids just as bad as this.
When i say swamped i mean hundreds a day just like this.
but its not like this.

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Male 459
If he asked his question in a rational manner he would have gotten a response and been able to have meaningful dialog. You are not free to be a disrespectful dumbass who ruins the Q & A for everyone in the room by screaming question after question without waiting for a response.
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Male 1,399
Another question for the retards who still don`t get it:

You say he was sufficiently restrained without handcuffs, because they had him on the ground.

Tell me, how the hell were they supposed to get him into the squad car? Teleportation? Trust his good will and judgement and allow him to walk to the jail?

Once again, for the IQ-challenged: A policeman does not consider you "sufficiently restrained" until you are in handcuffs. If you don`t let them put the handcuffs on you, they`re going to consider that Resisting Arrest and force you to submit, no matter how much noise you make.

I`m not a cop, but I completely sympathize with them in this.

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Female 1
umm. even if this kid does have a rep of being a jerk or whatever, at the end of the question when they tell him he`s had the mike long enough he says ok, bla bla... and begins to leave, when the cops start pushing and grabbing at him for really no apparant reason. its pretty obvious to me that he was just going to go take a seat. you can even hear kerry in the backround saying "wait let me answer his question" and protesting. im gonna have to say those police deff had nothign better to do and over reacted.
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Female 121
I love how at first when he speaks they`re all like "Yeah, we`re rebellious, clapping for what he just said yeah man yeeahh" and then when the police jump him for....what, going above decibel level?..they all just sit there like non-nice individuals, not saying a word like they`re kindergarteners being scolded...
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Male 12
yeah, i agree 100% that they should have tazed him. they even warned him they were gonna do it. wut the hell did he think was gonna happen. i`m not racist or anything, but could u imagine the explosion that would have resulted if the student was black? and if the cops did get suspended for doing their jobs, i believe that was the most dumbass thing that happened.
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Female 35
When the police pulled him to the ground he should have shut up and done exactly what they said and it would have been over quickly. However, I do think that it was unwrannted on the police`s part to grab him so quickly. The amount of officers there could have restrained him without resorting to tasers even if he was being annoying.
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Female 326
Fault on both sides.

The police shouldn`t have taken him, but when he started freaking out like that he was pretty much saying "Hey, guys, here`s a great reason to take me away! I mean, you didn`t have one in the first place, but I just feel like making things worse for myself, so here you go!"

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Male 1,497
I didnt think he got tazered for free speach, its obvious if you read it on dig... just because most people my age dont know the full story doesnt mean all teens are stupid and careless.
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Female 2,196
instead of arguing or saying somethin politcal i just want to say i wonder what its like to be tased
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Male 3
Its funny how easily people resort to mindless namecalling. Retards, dippoos, idiots etc. It doesn`t matter that he had someone there filming him. It doesn`t matter that he is an ass trying to get media attention. What matters is that he was in no way deserving of being tasered. People are dickheads all day long and I`m sure everyone wishes they could impart a bit of violent justice on them but you can`t. what fragile society we have now would collapse. In this case the police overstepped the mark of their authority. They had sufficient force to restrain the man WITHOUT resorting to the taser, which is a dangerous weapon however you look at it and the recipient (there have been many deaths in the US). If the bloke had a pacemaker or whatever and had died, there would be completely different reactions
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Male 29
He kind of reacted like a bitch, but there was absolutely no need for arrest, taser, or even to pull him off the mic. America is ridiculous. We think we`re so great but none of the things we pride ourselves on are really carried out as they should be.
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Male 188
I`m pretty sure he got arrested for trying to escape rather than anything else, and that`s certainly why he got Tasered.

Having said that, the police could have just asked him to leave, instead of immediately grabbing his arm and trying to pull him away. He looked to me like he had finished speaking anyway.

So, I think that although the guy had a right to be upset about how they were treating him, he should have just accepted it and complained later.

There was an incident a bit like this over here a while ago - they literally dragged an old man outside, without warning, just because he heckled. Then they did the same to another guy who verbally objected.

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Male 756
Tasered Student Has History Of Practical Jokes
Incident With Police Caught On Tape

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Video of police Tasering a persistent questioner of Sen. John Kerry became an Internet and TV sensation Tuesday, generating fierce debate about free speech and the motives of the college student involved - a known prankster who often posts practical jokes online.

the rest of the story

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Male 2,172
That guy said Bush... he deserved it.

=D

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Male 203
That guy`s a dumbass. And to those of you who think he did nothing wrong, that arrest wasn`t about speech. They weren`t gonna arrest him at all until he started struggling with the cops. THAT`s where he broke the law. The police were gonna escort him off the premesis and tell him not to come back in, but he freaked out and started making the problem much worse than it needed to be.
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Male 2,781
I BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE NEEDED. ESPECIALLY IN THE USA. KEEPS AUTHORITIES FROM AUTHORIZING TOO MUCH.
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Female 67
Yeah, he was tased AFTER he was on the ground, AFTER they`d tried to escort him out (which he refused to do and physically resisted), AFTER he acted like a belligerent arse, AFTER setting it up so he`d get more media and internet attention.
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Male 1,455
If he helped the kid then all the idiots here saying `the kid deserved it` would then be against Kerry.

Do you idiots realize that if it wasn`t a public address, there wouldn`t be a microphone? Or that the kid was tased AFTER he was on the ground surrounded by guards?

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Male 533
If Kerry was such a great leader, why the drat didn`t he help the kid? Back during Namn he had free speech to protest the war. That kid should of had all the rights Kerry had. What a "war hero", Kerry is a great person...
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Female 322
riskpu, how about the fact that the Associated Press has covered the story? Or that there are other videos that are more lengthy, showing Kerry and the exact same events that carried out? Is that enough evidence for you that this actually happened?

Please do research before you open your mouth and prove yourself a retard.

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Male 294
Ah, if you think the US government is over-controlling, Become a citizen of sweden.

Usa really is mild.

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Female 30
they should have left him alone. that was riciculous. although he was rather asking for it after awhile, kudos to that guy
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Male 177
SnoopDawg, all that you say is a lie. Before you start preaching "the good word", you need to validate your information.
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Male 49
That video just made me quite angry. Did they even charge him then and there? Or just sit on him and tase him for poos and giggles?
He`s been throttled to the floor, screaming for help, asking what he`s done, and that gets him a few laughs!
The apathy of the world is bringing it down!
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Male 10
Okay, retards, the second after "bones" leaves his lips, security dude in back does the cut throat signal, connect the dots, retards. If it wasn`t an open Q&A there wouldn`t have been a mic set up in the middle of the isle, and there wouldn`t have been a security moderator ready to cut dude off if he went too far.
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Male 180
I am seriously surprised a riot didn`t break out.

I don`t really give two poos that they tasered him. If you think the police are walking on your rights, you still struggle like that. That is exactly what court is for. He knew it was being video-taped, either he is an idiot, or he wanted alot of attention (or both)

But seriously. It doesn`t matter whos side you are on, I think if there was a riot a lot more would have been accomplished.

Riots are what America is all about.

We have the right to bear arms for this very reason. So the King doesn`t just waltz into our homes and start pushing us around.

If Americans hate the government so much, overturn it. That is EXACTLY what I think America was about when it was founded.

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Male 227
dude the guy said. "no thats alright, let me answer his question"
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Male 59
Just another fellow Liberal getting his right rejected.
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Male 210
God, i get tired of people shouting `FAKE` to everything all the time...
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Male 1,029
Haha, i`m glad I got to see it. It`s gonna be taken off the internet soon.
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Male 5
`TIS A FAKE!

What reason is there to think this depicts a real event? Come on! No shot of Kerry on the Tape? At a convention? You`d think there was at least a bit of Kerry on that tape to convince me!
Why should I believe it even Was a Kerry event, and not a Cheney one: the sound of the speech dubbed over to make it sound like some of John`s terrible droning?

Also: if the agents were actually trying to cover up something like "The Skull and Bones" they`d be professionals; with swift grasp and sure stride that young man would have been escorted from that room before you can say "whose-your-daddy".

Nope. No good.
This, my friends, is a FAKE!
Not that it couldn`t happen, mind...

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Male 160
I like how all the 30-39 year olds realize how the guy deserved to be tasered, while the 13-17 year olds all think he got tasered for free speech. He got out of control, and they had every right to taser him.

-shapiro

I noticed that, too. Catbarf didn`t though.

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Male 103
AH HA HA!!! I was rolling when he got tased.

"Don`t tase me bro!"

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Male 91
Oh noes, some stupid liberal prep got "opressed", cry me a river college boy.
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Male 901
If I were a police officer, I would have tased him one more time just to be sure.
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Male 1,193
it wasn`t because of the question. it was because he wasn`t letting go of the microphone way after his alotted time. the police had asked him not to ask anymore questions before hand. The video is biased and there was no brutality involved.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/18/wkerry118.xml

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Male 869
Was the student acting like a douche? Yes. Were the police using excessive force? Yes (in my opinion). We can all form our own opinions but in the end it`ll be up to the court system. Two wrongs to make a right, they make a left....

Oh and just in defense of the policemen and women that actually do a commendable job (they do put their lives on the line and don`t get paid very well for it) I`d just like to point out that these types of ugly incidents shouldn`t reflect on the entire system. We only see the bad videos because of the shock/entertainment value. With all the arrests that happen on a daily basis we rarely see the ones where the police are actually helping society. I guess because it doesn`t make for compelling video....except in O.J.`s case :-P

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Male 3,322
Resisting arrest is a crime in New Jersey (link). It`s probably more correct to say there is no FEDERAL law regarding resisting arrest.
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Male 72
cops are drating dicks, they think they have so much power just because fo their title and theire weapons. Those cops should go to hell and be tased. At the very least they should all have their badges taken away. He didn`t do anyhting wh=rong, and everybody was tellignt hem to stop incluiding John Kerry. Out of nowhere, the cop tased him without telling him why. He was being arrested and thet weren``t answering his qquesion of "why am i being arrested". IT IS THE LAW FOR THE COP TO TELL THE PERSON WHAT HE IS BEING ARRESTED FOR, AND HE HAD NOW RIGHT TO BE ARRESTED IF HE WASNT TOLD WHY HE WAS BEING ARRESTED! ITS CALLED HABEAS CORPUS!!!
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Male 95
This was all a setup. CNN covered it. The kid came in, handed someone a video camera and told them to keep taping no matter what happens. Then he swung at a female police officer, yet supposedly when he was put in the cop car, he calmed down and assured them that they did nothing wrong, and wondered if there would be more video cameras at the jail.

This kid is another 9/11 truther nut, with a journalism major and a thirst for fame. What a drating pile of poo. Hope the cops beat him hard when they got him back to the station.

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Female 40
The guy probably was an idiot. However...

`Meyer was arrested on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace`

So maybe he did hog the microphone, and was pushy with his questions. But /no/, that isn`t something you should be arrested or injured for. Seriously, think about it. His original charge was `disturbing the peace`, right? But we ALL have to deal with annoying people, every day. But you can`t just go around hurting them, as much as you may like to. The fact is, this guy, originally, was not posing any harm to Kerry, the police officers, or the audience. He was merely obnoxious. As fun as it would be if we could beat up annoying people, do you think it would be considered alright for us to do that? I understand why some people are saying he deserved it because he`s an idiot, but he didn`t really. And the whole `resisting arrest` issue - it should only be applicable when you`re truly commiting a crime. Otherwise, it`s an excuse to stick you with a false charge.

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Male 182
why didnt anyone rush the cops? theres 5 of them and 100 people or rush kerry dont just sit there while freedoms are being stripped from you in broad daylight
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Male 199
just remember freedom of speach ONLY works when nobody can hear you.
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Female 322
Here is a link to more of the video - pretty much everything leading up to the incident (the video quality is pretty poor, but you get the idea):

Police Taser UF Student

And here is an AP press release regarding the incident:

AP Press Release

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Male 2,216
Oh, catlikegrace, in Europe we still have tasers, and don`t have a "freedom of speech" law, in fact we even have things about "incitement of religious hate" can be arrested, so Fred Phelps wouldnt have "freedom of speech" either.
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Male 103
Resisting arrest only applies if the arrest is a lawful arrest. They tried to arrest his for disturbing the peace. Saying the word blowjob and asking a question about "Skull and Bones" does not constitute disturbing the peace. His mike was not cut off until he asked about "Skull and Bones" then the female police officer behind him physically grabbed him. This was not a lawful arrest and the charges against him will be dropped. I was a police officer for 4 years and if I was in the same position I would have reacted the same way. You lay your hands on me without reason and it is battery, you try to arrest me and you better have probable cause. The officers did not have probably cause for an arrest nor did they have cause to lay hands on him. These officers need to be trained on the legal aspects of a protest and how to handle a protester. Freedom of speech in the country is dying day by day since an idiot named Bush stole the election and this country. IMPEACH BUSH
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Female 91
i think this is drating ridiculous tbh all he was doing was expressing his opinions and asking the questions other people were too scared to ask.
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Male 133
Whatever happened to free speech?
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Male 2,216
Freedom or not, if the police ask you something, do it, if you dont do it and they make you move, let them, and co operate, if you dont, they`ll try and arrest/restrain you, if you then start shouting and resisting and acting up, then EXPECT this sort of treatment.

Dumbass.

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Female 18
so much for freedom of speech...that poor guy, all he did was ask a question, they shouldn`t have tasered him.
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Female 36
it looked like they were just going to make him leave until he started fighting them...but whatever
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Male 17
Oops... Leave out the that in the first sentence.
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Male 17
Well I would call being laid on by 5 officers while one holds your head down being subdued, but that everyone has their own opinion. I guess it`s up to a jury of 12 now.
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Male 159
well, if i remember the video right, he wasn`t subdued. he was on his side, and not in handcuffs.
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Male 17
Of course a lot of laws are state based as well. I forgot to figure that in. I don`t know Florida`s laws as well as I do my own states so my comments may in fact be a little wrong.
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Male 17
I have many friends who are city, county, and state police. Of course they have gone through all of the training for the spray and the tasers. Plus I work with the legal system (prosecution). I can that I am 100% not wrong. If he wanted to take this to court and press the issue he would undoubtedly win. Yes the police are authorized to use their spray or tasers to subdue a suspect, but not when the suspect is already being held down by 6 officers. That would be considered excessive use of force.
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Male 221
Student twat. You act like that, you deserve all you get.
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Male 159
one4u2nv... you are wrong. As I mentioned, the officers can use the tazer on people who physically do not follow their orders.
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Male 159
Fools! The tazer is a replacement for the expandable baton or pepper spray. When a person physically resists, as this moron did, the police have a thing called the Force Continuum. That says that the officers have the right to move one level above what is being presented to them to safely secure a person. Meaning, this guy became physical when he was pulling away from the officers. Even while on the ground, he did not follow the officers command to turn to his belly so he can be handcuffed. Therefore... ZAP! Now he`s on his belly. Before the tazer, he would have been maced, which would have cleared out that room, OR, he could have hit (yes HIT) in various pressure points, even with a baton. The tazer is the safest way of controlling idiots like this.
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Male 17
"300 lb officers can still be kicked"

Very good point, but the tasers are only supposed to be used when they feel threatened with bodily harm. Six or seven cops on one person flailing like a fish out of water on the ground won`t justify the use of the taser.

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Female 69
I`m with the police on this one, and he completely deserved it.
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Female 1,984
Only if he is PHYSICALLY VIOLENT/ABUSIVE does he deserve to be tasered.

The system is fu*ked up, man!

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Female 322
This guy deserved it. If an officer asks you to do something, take him/her seriously. If the officer tells you that if you don`t do it, they will taser you, expect to be tasered. It`s not like they didn`t warn the guy. He had his chance to comply...more than once chance, in fact. I DO, however, find it hard to believe that with so many police officers, they couldn`t actually pin the guy down and make him sit still. Makes me wonder if maybe he was on drugs or something.
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Male 135
"... if you notice, at the point they start tasing him he is already on the ground with these huge 300 pound cops on top of him. The taser is to be used when someone present an actual physical threat to an officer or someone else."

"The only person that actually got anything out of the video. I don`t care if he was being an idiot or not the taser wasn`t called for once he hit the ground. I would hope that with all of the cops they had on him they could have handled the situation without the taser."

I agree with both of you. But how do you know he wasnt a danger to the officers. he was flailing around quite a bit. 300 lb officers can still be kicked...it was hard to see everything that was going on.

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Male 135
ok seriously, a poster before said he had pushed his way in to ask questions. By the looks of things, even though he had pushed his way in, they were letting him ask questions. When he started to ask more personal questions, they asked him to leave, when he resisted, they decided got him out of there, he resisted more...they used force

EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF PROPER POLICE WORK!

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Female 486
You know...things like this make me want to move to Europe.
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Male 498
lol physco
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Male 1,162
Learn both sides of the story before making cute comments, guys. They warned the guy, and he still resisted. So he got the tazer.

Better yet, read what Tymberwulf said. That guy says what I`m thinkin.

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Female 1,395
That made me feel physcially sick. And the US considers itself a civilised progressive nation? when the police electrocute a young man for being passionate whilst asking an politician a question at a college assembly and no one does a damn thing? there was NO need for that. The police are far too liberal with those tasers, he wasnt a danger to himself or anyone else he was just loud. Theyre talking about introducing tasers here for use on the most violent offenders. Im not sure if i even agree on that to be honest.

This video is Sick.

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Male 17
Also people complaining about free speech need to read a little more or something. If you are on privately owned property and you are asked to leave or to get off of the mic you MUST comply. Free speech doesn`t come in to play in that situation.
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Male 17
"... if you notice, at the point they start tasing him he is already on the ground with these huge 300 pound cops on top of him. The taser is to be used when someone present an actual physical threat to an officer or someone else."

The only person that actually got anything out of the video. I don`t care if he was being an idiot or not the taser wasn`t called for once he hit the ground. I would hope that with all of the cops they had on him they could have handled the situation without the taser.

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Male 62
this is why ron paul needs to elected president.
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Female 1,412
Did he get tased? I couldnt be botherd watching it all =/
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Male 3,431
Look at the poo people are posting here and tell me there`s no Free Speech. You have Free Speech, you don`t have the Freedom to Fight the guys society has hired to protect it`s self. If the guy wasn`t an immature dippoo he wouldn`t have gotten tased. If he`d have Cooperated with the Police and not disrupted the discussion he wouldn`t have an issue. Freedom is something Americans have in surplus, it`s the Responsibility to use our Freedom Wisely that people in America seem to Lack.
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Male 756
What a jackass, they asked him to comply and he didn`t, END OF STORY. It was a public forum, in which everyone is allowed their fair chance to ask questions, as in any democratic society. He hogged the mic (depriving others of their fair time), and was asked to sit down, but didn`t. The police tried to bring him to the back, but he fought back, and started yelling like a bitch to get the sympathy of people like many of the commenters on this board. But he still resisted, and he got tasered. Surprise, surprise! Civil disobedience is STILL disobedience. But many of you "college-enlightened" hippie sheep wouldn`t understand that.

In fact, he should have been tasered twice for failing to shut his damn mouth. I`m tired of these damn college students acting like they`re starting some kind of social/intellectual revolution. Once you leave that sheltered campus, you`re going to work 9-5 just like the rest of us. Your not special, and everyone still has 1 vote, including him.

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Female 224
he is yelling help and the students are just watching and video taping
not that i expect students to fight police officers
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Female 165
Holy Shih Tzu, that must have been painful. >_<
.. I`ve run out of things to say, I need coffee..
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Male 69
Am I the only person who actually listened?! The guy said NUMEROUS TIMES that if they would just let him go he would leave, etc etc, but they refused to let him go. John Kerry started ANSWERING his question, if he had no problem answering, why should the police have a problem letting him ask? And also the law states everybody has a right to know WHY they are being arrested or detained if they ask an officer MUST by law MUST answer, none did, none had a valid reason to grab him, he said he would leave but none let him, they just jumped on him."

Actually, think about what you`re saying. If, say, a suspected murderer was escorted out of a building, should the cops just let him go because he says that he will walk out? The cops didn`t "just jump on him", they detained him because he was causing trouble. I won`t argue that the tasering in the middle of an aisle was the right action, but the man was disturbing the peace. Sure, free speech, but don`t be an idiot when you have

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Male 246
I am an actual student at Univ of Florida...Heres what happened...
I saw some of the first posts which were wrong, it WAS indeed open Q&A, however they were only going to take a few more questions, so that guy rushed to the mic and cut some people in the line to speak. He started asking about the book and impeaching Bush, but they eventually cut off his mic and the police began to take him out. I dont know if you can hear it in the tape, but Kerry was actually saying the whole time "Its ok, let me answer his question, he has an important question". Now, I can understand him being escorted to leave since he did cut in front of everyone to ask his question and rush the mic. HOWEVER, the huge controversy is the actual tasing, if you notice, at the point they start tasing him he is already on the ground with these huge 300 pound cops on top of him. The taser is to be used when someone present an actual physical threat to an officer or someone else. At that point, did he lo
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Male 250
[quote]On 9/19/2007 6:06:21 AM bankvole wrote: Far more disturbing than the police over reaction are all the americans on this page defending their actions. Do you guys even understand your own constitution?[/quote]
Wtf? And you understand better?
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Male 134
America = not free... hasn`t been for a long time...
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Female 1
I come to this site daily and never comment on anything...however I must say something about this. This is not the first time that this douche has done something like this. He even has his own website to show the stupid idiotic stunts that he pulls. He wanted the girl to catch it on camera so he would get even more un-needed publicity. It worked.

He couldn`t have really cared less about the question that he asked. He just wanted to cause trouble. He`s just a jerk looking to stir up trouble for people.

p.s. even if it was real, nothing would have happened to him if he would have just done as the officers directed. Even if you are innocent of the crime, you automatically "convict" yourself if you resist. Come on people, it`s common sense.

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Male 186
Am I the only person who actually listened?! The guy said NUMEROUS TIMES that if they would just let him go he would leave, etc etc, but they refused to let him go. John Kerry started ANSWERING his question, if he had no problem answering, why should the police have a problem letting him ask? And also the law states everybody has a right to know WHY they are being arrested or detained if they ask an officer MUST by law MUST answer, none did, none had a valid reason to grab him, he said he would leave but none let him, they just jumped on him. Im sorry but whatever you think, he did not deserve this, and for the people who say he is a healthy man and can handle being tazered, fair enough, but i know a 17-year old girl with a pacemaker, doesnt make it any less of a chance that he hasnt got something wrong like that, the police dont know, and something like a tazer could kill him if he had an underlying problem that the police werent aware of, so im sorry this is just out of order.
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Male 1,231
This is an example of bad policing. The speaker had the power to calm the guy down, he said he didn`t mind answering the mans question. The police could have warned him to simmer down. They didn`t have to taze him, they could have cuffed him. Although he was resisting arrest, he didn`t pose a threat to anyone.
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Male 1,225
Mentioned at CNN, but not on this video, the girl videotaping against the wall behind him at the beginning of the video was given the camera by him and asked her to video tape it. He was asked to leave a forum that was not open to the public. He caused a scene and even though he was surrounded by 6+ officers, they were unable to restrain him and put on handcuffs. He is a healthy person and can survive a taser despite the fact that he`s not smart enough to leave when asked to.
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Female 67
He wasn`t tasered because of the questions (yes, questions; he wouldn`t give up the mic and continued asking question after question, getting louder and louder as he did it). He was tasered because, after he refused to give up the mic and let the discussion continue, he started yelling and resisting letting the mic be pulled away. Then, when they pulled him back, he started yelling like a damn fool and fighting back.

Also, as someone else pointed out, this is a guy who does things like this to get media/internet attention. He probably even went into this knowing he`d act like an arse; however, he didn`t bargain on being tasered, I bet.

I hate seeing anyone abuse power, but this dumbass deserved what he got, in my opinion. It`s not a matter of free speech or censorship; it`s a matter of this person being unable to act like an adult.

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Male 170
wtf is with the people in the audience just sitting there watching that all happen.. he must have pissed off the rest of the people there for them to just sit back and watch and even smile.
Maybe he was just an ass.
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Male 22
I like how all the 30-39 year olds realize how the guy deserved to be tasered, while the 13-17 year olds all think he got tasered for free speech. He got out of control, and they had every right to taser him.
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Male 82
I don`t understand. Why did they try to remove him in the first place. After that, he decided to cause a scene and deserved everything he got, but I still don`t see why the filth moved in...
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Male 2,720
Don`t taze me bro!
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Male 124
haha
resist arrest = tasered
Love the laughs when he first gets hit, and that dumb chick screaming because they shocked him was annoying as hell. If he had shut his trap instead fo starting a fight he would have been escorted off the site but no he had to start something and he got himself tackled shocked and arrested
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Female 455
This guy seemed like a total dick, tbh, but even if he is his question was still perfectly valid. How hard can it be to get one bloke out of a building when there are half a dozen police officers on him? The taser was pretty uncalled for.
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Female 525
if he was just bein a jerk and shouting stuff to ppl that wasn`t with what they were doing, then yeah, he should be escorted out. But other than that, the police need to get a life.
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Male 36
Anyone defending this whining loud obnoxious idiot is an idiot themselves. He was clearly given every opportunity to leave but refused to do so to authority.
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Male 1,455
Scalawag, in case you`re too thick to understand, there are ways to remove an offender that don`t involve 1000kV of electricity. In fact, there`s ways for the police to not get involved when they aren`t needed.
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Male 1,455
It is quite disturbing. The man was talking, Kerry was trying to answer, the cops were going crazy and there are people here who feel that the kid deserved to be tasered, even though the only person he could be `disturbing` was telling the cops to let him go?
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Male 2,005
what did he do? did he asked the wrong question?
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Male 959
Far more disturbing than the police over reaction are all the americans on this page defending their actions. Do you guys even understand your own constitution?
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Male 240
Take away their badges and they`re just bashing the poor guy.
Doesn`t matter what he`s saying, he can say it for as long as he damn well wants.
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Male 211
United States at its best. I love the US but this is the kind of situation where I think there is a thing totally wrong. Kerry tells the police to let him speak and the police goes on and arrest the guy. Pathetic freedom of speech demonstration!!!
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Male 2
Yes, the guy shoulda been removed. But the use of the taser is laziness on the cops part compared to traditional restraint. Between all those cops they could have cuffed him easily.

Taser use on an already restrained person is just the police giving out punishment at their own will. Morons.

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Male 411
If that was your family member who got taser`d you`d bee just angry.
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Male 1,407
"for you all americans out there... there is no law in the book called RESISTING ARREST and you can even kill the officer if the arrest is unlawful."

This is completely wrong--I have no idea why a Canadian would speak with such certainty regarding American laws. As far as I know, every state has some such law. Here`s an example from New Jersey:

N.J. Code of Criminal Justice

As for the manner of arrest, whether or not that was appropriate is a whole different matter, which I believe is being sorted out as we speak.

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Male 160
Oh, and ggolbez. He wasn`t already handcuffed when they tasered him. They did it because he wouldn`t let them.
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Male 160
"Police brutality! Police brutality!"
-Idiot
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Male 1,931
Yea, there was no need for the taser. They had like 6 people on him. Why do you need a fuggin taser at that point? He was handcuffed and on the ground. There was no point to do physical harm on him. No point.
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Male 3
In my opinion there are better ways to deal with that situation. Firstly mics can be turned off. Secondly people can be ignored. If they just waited and let him get whatever he wanted to say out then they could either have responded or just moved on. Someone said that he was a danger to everyone and therefore the police were justified. This is rubbish. If I am walking down the street am I a danger to everyone? Should I be arrested just in case? At the point where the police tasered the bloke he was clearly restrained and could not have got up making it completely unjustifiable in my book.
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Male 99
He broke the law. When he was asked to leave and he refused at that point he was trespassing. At that point the officers had the right to detain him (notice never did they tell him he was under arrest), and while some have pointed out that there is no law called "resisting arrest" there are many laws dealing with interfering with the duties of a police officer.

And for those of you that say there was no need for the taser, I would disagree. He was refusing to follow the officers orders, and was continuing to fight them. The taser was only one of several options officers usually have, a club would have caused not been useful (to crowded), and pepper spray while effective isn`t good in crowded rooms.

I feel no sympathy for this "man", he went in there to cause a problem and then "acted" surprised when he ended up having a problem. The ones I feel sorry for are the officers who had to do a difficult job in a difficult situation and are now being look

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Male 411
No more freedom of speech in America. They didn`t have to taser the poor fellow.
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Male 888
umm..ook
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Male 525
He got what he deserved. If you watch 2 officers try to escort him out. He resists so of course more will jump in to move him out. When he refuses to relax and go quietly of course they are gonna use more force. If he had just left when the first 2 officers grab him and tryedot move him along he would have never got tasered.

~dragon~

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Male 1,629
if the kid was warned then he shoulda been ejected but not tazered or arrested, that was over the line. they had no reason to use any additional force then needed to move him out the damn door
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Male 458
catapilrgirl..
that really didnt seem like a joke, and if it was it wasn`t funny in any sort of way, and look, after he asked the question, Kerry began to answer it. And his question was legit enough to be answered.
also, can anybody tell me what was wrong with his question? he asked Kerry a very deep and legitimate question, by the way, if you think this guy is just talking jibberish or pulling a prank, "Skull and Bones" is the oldest student secret society running today ever since 1832, formerly named "the brotherhood of death" both George Bush Sr. and Jr. were members of it, and so was John Kerry and president William Howard Taft
educate yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_B...
btw, if anyone says that wikipedia is not a credible source and is made up, there are sources and external links for you to check the legitimacy of the article.
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Male 22
I don`t know if anyone noticed, but as the cops were moving in on him, John Kerry said "That`s all right, let me answer his question." I don`t see what the big deal was. If the speaker was not bothered by his question, then there is no problem.
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Male 270
Well, whatever happened, happened for a reason. Still, as I watched it, I was reminded of "America, your freedom is slipping away".
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Female 150
the guy in this vid is known for being a jerk and has a website of "practical jokes" so he knew he was going there to annoy people and should have known that with the tension around our political atmosphere the cops weren`t gonna allow ANY sort of poo. he got what he deserved.
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Male 29
I believe I seen on CNN that the cops involved were all suspended for this.

All and all this kind of reminds me of the guy getting ummm "escorted" out of a library.

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Female 3,562
The guy was completely out of control. They have the right to kick him out if he`s causing trouble. There`s no law that says you can`t be forced to leave a location if you`re causing trouble. He probably would have started a complete brawl if they didn`t get him out of there. He wasn`t asked to speak and he wasn`t asked to be there.
But at the same time, he did nothing illegal either. He was a threat to everyone, not as a result of the questions he asked but of the behavior he presented. People were at first cheering that he was being kicked out, clearly nobody wanted him there.
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Male 480
for you all americans out there... there is no law in the book called RESISTING ARREST and you can even kill the officer if the arrest is unlawful.
but if you read some articles on this guy, you will not be on his side anymore.
This got nothing to do with free speech and anything. The pOlice already warned him about this (see them standing right beside him even before he talks?). The reason he did this is to get attention. Simple.
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Male 8
Wow, what a jackass. When the cops say to knock it off or they will taser you, that is the point to shut the hell up. He didn`t get tased for speaking, he got tased for resisting arrest. After listening to his mindless rambling though, I`m glad they did. What a moron.
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Male 2,372
Gimmie a break, people.

The guy got on the mike, had his say, was told that he had the mike long enough, refused to leave, started shouting and finally got the cops involved.

He had his free speech. Then he lost his composure, hogged the mike, and tried to hi-jack the proceedings.

You can hardly jump on this as an example of how free speech is being quashed in America.

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Male 210
Wow, american policing really is dumb. Didn`t they think that they were disturbing the peace by arresting him? He was totally peaceful until they started trying to arrest him, they should`ve just walked him to the door if they really wanted him to stop asking questions he wasn`t meant to ask. Great free-speach btw guys!
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Male 699
Depends where in Australia Ricklionhart

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,222...

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Male 1,526
dont like the us.
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Male 124
Ah, the Land of the Free... Freedom of Speech shown for what it really is, a complete myth. USericans, if you want *real* freedom and democracy, move to Australia, where the society really does believe in "a fair go for all"
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Female 340
Disgusting...So much for the freedom of speech!!!!
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Male 318
hmm, ok, he did overreact alittle bit, but i understand, the police had no reason to act like that, if they didnt start taking him away, he wouldnt have reacted or done anything, he just asked the question.
f*ck the system man, F*CK the system
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Female 338
Someone on digg explained exactly what went down, and apparently this was not supposed to be an "open to the public for q&a" type thing, the guy kind of pushed his way past/was fighting with the cops to get in. Of course, I don`t see why this merits him being tasered over and over again, but it`s not like it was completely uncalled for.
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Male 240
Yet another front page digg story.
Please stop posting them.
Doesn`t make the video any less shocking though.
So... They arrested him for being loud?
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Male 10,115
Link: Student Tased at John Kerry Speech [Rate Link] - I guess you`re not supposed to ask questions about Skull and Bones?
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