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U people are killing my buzzzzzzzzzz
We`re not gonna change each others minds (not that I want to). So this is my last comment on this subject...nice debatng with you :-)
This is exactly what I`m talking about...and if you paid any attention you would have read that I do agree there are upstanding members of society who use, or have used, cannibis. But you`re not listening into what I say when I argue that you can`t have some laws for some people, and other laws for others. It makes things worse, logic says so.
The criminals are the ones breaking the law. They`re not `meant to` have the drugs, right? The problem would also go away if the dealers quit and got proper jobs and beacame functioning members of society.
Why should we change laws just to suit you? Again, where do we draw the line? Why not just legalise everything?
Google something called the `slippery slope syndrome`, hopefully you`ll understand where I`m coming from.
And for the record, I do understand the point you`re arguing, I just don`t agree that we should let criminals change the law to suit them. It takes away the meaning of law and it WILL spiral out of control.
As for my other comments, well what can I say...I like sticking up for what I believe. Nobody`s forcing you to give up your beliefs, right?
I also don`t believe all my comments are me `whinnying` (I didn`t know that was a word...but I`ll happily speak the language of my attacker). 99% of my comments are well within place. If you don`t like someone arguing against you then don`t argue. Simple.
And FloridaSnow, don`t even start. You`ve been reading my comments wrong. Come back when you can accept my side of the argument and actually read what I say. I`m tired of people guessing what I`m saying and not actually reading.
Just so you know, I`m not going to `give up`. I still firmly believe that drugs should remain illegal, and legalising them is backing down to criminals.
Second, a majority of archival studies show that unrestrained use of the cannabis can have different effects from person to person. So one`s experience of it "being alright" or "happy" and another of "It`s horrible" can both be true.
Third, a recent health study showed a genetic trait that about a quarter of the population has, can lead to an increased risk of mental illness when pot is used.
Fourth, almost no known link has been shown between pot and cancer. The studies that showed the opposite didn`t take other variables into account.
I personally don`t want to use it, but I don`t give a poo if other people do. Whether it becomes legalized or remains as is I really don`t care.
That way potheads won`t have anything to talk about EVER!
I think this book is absolutely hilarious, whether or not it was meant to be.
And for your information, firearms are illegal here in the UK. And it works.
I do see it from your point of view...you`re a child who needs the use of drugs to `get away from the stresses of life`. Look at it from my point of view...your life is already this stressful you need to use cannibis? What about when you`re 30 and life is about 200x more stressful? 1/8th just might not cut it. You`ll be measuring stress in milligrams.
I hope you`re smart enough to not try anything harder...but peer-pressure`s a bitch, right?
ALSO, were did you learn all your BS from? i have given you 2 links to sites i got my info from so i think you should do the same.
If you took any time to read, you`d notice I was quoting someone who was admittedly under the influence of drugs. He is a child. he has been effected socially with the drug use, that`s why I picked him as a PRIME EXAMPLE.
B-Hazard, I don`t know where to begin. You`re saying my opinion is flawed. Can I just remind you that it is my opinion. That`s all I can say to you really, until you get your head out of your own backside.
Old_School, I was talking about you being on the lower end of the `age scale`, not the intellectual."you have yet to give proof on why it is so dangerous."Looks like people are disregarding my posts too.
I`m not lying when I speak of the young children who are killed because of the gang culture fueled by drugs. I`m not making it up. I`m not bending the truth. It just appears that you`re all so hung up on using cannibis that you ignore the ones who are suffering.
for people with chronic pain that don`t want to just take a handfull of drugs and pass out for...well about.....4-5 hours.
Because some people have lives that they cannot enjoy if they are passed out in bed for hours while their kids have to worry about making dinner and when their mom/dad`s next doctors appointment will be.
soooo, marijuana is fine by me if the people using are using for good and not evil. :-)
I see it as flawed for the exact reason I stated in almost every post here. I also see it as flawed, not only because you won`t answer most of the rebuttals against your argument, but also because you just keep repeating the same thing.
"It causes problems in society, fuels the gang culture, resulting in deaths of innocent people.""People get killed over the dealing of drugs. There have been cases here in the UK where the children of drug dealers have been killed in their own home.""Hard drugs (I don`t even know why you`d classify MJ as a hard drug) rip families apart, ruin lives, cause crime..."
It`s becoming painstakingly obvious that you`ve been cemented into one stance based on little to nothing and you won`t read a word that would convince you otherwise.
How exactly would you say my opinion is flawed?
You see how it`s affected his social skills? Also I`d like to note the pride he takes. This is a child who is taking pride knowing he is a drug user.
If people don`t see the stupidity in that then you must all be on...oh, wait...
For the record, I don`t label myself `emo` so you shouldn`t either.
Congratulations, you just said one of the stupidest things I`ve ever heard!
You ever read up on how they make heroin? There`s a lot of work involved to get a poppy plant to heroin status. It`s a very manufactured drug.
Ever read up on how they make marijuana?
They GROW ITThey PICK ITThey DRY ITand then they SMOKE IT
Maybe, if they`re feeling a little daring, they`ll even cure it for a while.
One of the most natural goddamn things you can consume! It`s picked off a plant, and then smoked, and you idiots thing it`s dangerous enough to be outlawed?
Do you people even remember how to think for yourselves?
and the whole "just" a plant thing goes down the drain when you have physical withdrawals and the urge to sell your dog for a hit.
That was almost as creepy as that other one that was on here
And may I also add that I have a friend whose last name is Hemp...seriously. Sometimes we tease her by saying "Mary-wanna-Hemp" XD ROFL.
And I read over the first few pages, I think mary jane should be legal, I don`t smoke it, I don`t really care if anyone does but it`s a lot less harmful than ciggs and/or alcohol. It just isn`t conducive to economic policy and it`s too difficult to regulate so instead they just make it entirely illegal, which is changing in some places, for example a few years back in Dever, CO they made it legal to carry an ounce on your person in public which is a big jump from how it used to be.
I`ve been high, and I`ve been drunk. I can assure all of you that I was much more messed up drunk. I just felt extremely happy for no reason when I was high.
I can also assure all of you that I stopped smoking weed because I don`t need it. But I also don`t see anything wrong with it.
and madcherries wants her kids to be potheads."
There are worse things my kids could be. Like an ignorant asshat.
God forbid someone I love decides to smoke a plant to mellow out every once in a while, that`s just blasphemy.
How does it feel to have your head so far up your ass?
And I have to say that book had no plot. Hey lets go see mr. farmer man, Oh look it`s halloween, let me dress up in a very asian costume, in case you couldn`t tell my ethnicity.Maybe it has some point later in the book? Apparently it gets better, according to the reviews, but how trusting are those really?
Notice where the father`s hand is.
Does anyone think that this book could be about more than just pot?
and madcherries wants her kids to be potheads.
Interesting book though, lulz.
No one (that I`m aware of) has ever looked at marijuana users to see how many of them go on to harder drugs.
try to keep up. We are not talking about outlawing behavior we are discussing outlawing some drugs while keeping others. Some people have 1 beer a day and never get drunk. Some people have 7 beers a day and stay drunk all day. We as a society say alchohol is for adults and if you want to stay trashed 24/7 we don`t really care. Life will work out, you`ll lose your job, your family and die alone and sick.. or you will get wise and not abuse the alchohol. This is now happening with marijuana. And yes we do have some laws depending on who you are, adults and children are tried differently in many countries. Take some responsibility and stop relying on the government to make your decisions for you.
Does every drunk-driver crash and kill someone? So why don`t we only arrest those who will kill someone?
Do you see what I mean about it being hard to control these things? The fact is that people don`t need drugs, simple as that.
As for those saying legalizing cannibis will solve the problems, well I`m afraid this again suffers from the `where to draw the line` effect.
Why not just legalize everything? Because that`ll cause more problems than it`ll solve.
Agreed. It`s not marijuana usage that leads people to other drugs, it`s the false idea `if pot isn`t so bad, crack and LSD and ecstacy must not be so bad either.` People just need to be smart enough to draw the line at marijuana and understand that the same isn`t true for other drugs, and it`s been PROVEN. That`s where people go wrong.
I personally don`t know anyone who smokes pot and now does harder drugs, so that `gateway` theory seems bogus to me.
Weed was made illegal due to racism and greed.Originally people`s assumption that it was a horrible substance was based on lies and deceit.
And again, the vast majority of people against it think it`s bad just because it`s illegal, but it`s illegal (now) because people think it`s bad.
yes some drugs are ok but other`s aren`t. As much as you would love a nanny state to tell you exactly what you can and cannot put into your body many of us have a sense of personal responsibility. So if I start drinking too much beer I`m damn well not gonna whine and complain to the breweries and demand we remove alchohol from public consumption, even though it may lead to "harder drugs". Some people can`t handle any kind of mind alterating substance simple as that, others can. We have a sliding scale in all aspects of our society (laws, religion, etc) and we have a sliding scale for what drugs we allow in our respective societies even though some in said society can`t handle it. Tough for them, they should not take a drug if they know it screws up their life.
and lol at the YOU`RE SMOKING MARIJUANA! part
I think the only thing that we (the pro-legalization bunch) are arguing is that people need to be responsible for THEMSELVES. We are old enough to choose what to do with our own lives. These people who think marijuana should be kept illegal are the same people who think homosexuality is wrong and fight to keep gays from earning any rights. Everyone is trying to control how other people live their lives, which is absurd to me, because if your own life is so thoroughly uninteresting that you feel the need to have a say in what others can and can`t do, then you`re failing to see the real problem.
Bottom line, if ALCOHOL, which is responsible for so much crime and so many lives lost, is legal, then marijuana should be as well.
And where does one draw the line? Are some drugs okay but not others? Why?
Hard drugs rip families apart, ruin lives, cause crime and, in all honesty, aren`t needed at all. Nobody NEEDS drugs before they use them (obviosuly I`m not talking about medical use).
It`s a mix of bad habbits and influence...its just to nice there are a few of us who haven`t jumped on the bandwagon.
I was making a point.
The rest of that post is pretty much already answered.
I personally don`t think people should smoke around kids until they`re at LEAST 14. But at the same time I think it`s a little more concerning when parents get drunk around kids than high (assuming they aren`t doing all the actual smoking right in front of their 5 y/o)
That second line, again, that`s because it`s illegal in the first place. People say it needs to be illegal because of violent drug dealers when the fact is there`s wouldn`t be violent drug dealers selling it if it wasn`t illegal.
And I may be wrong but I`m pretty sure killing someone with your bare hands harms someone other than you for your pleasure. That`s when it`s not such a great thing to do what you love.
You may come around and say "well what if you`re hurting the people around you that don`t want you to do it" or "what about the children?!"
One. Any responsible pothead isn`t going to associate with people who try to pull them down for what they`re doing in the first place, and as the saying goes "those who mind don`t matter, and those who matter don`t mind"
People get killed over the dealing of drugs. There have been cases here in the UK where the children of drug dealers have been killed in their own home.
People who are able to gain possession of cannibis are more likely to get hold of harder drugs...that`s just plain common sense.
It is a mind altering drug, simple as that.
And to whoever it was that insulted me on page 2, I don`t really give a damn what you say. I don`t call you anything, so you don`t have to call me anything, savvy?
-...and is one of the leading causes of schizophrenia in todays youth.-
I`m gonna have to call shenanigans on that one.
It causes problems in society, fuels the gang culture, resulting in deaths of innocent people.
I enjoy killing people with my bare hands...should that be made legal too because I `enjoy it`?-
60% of all crackheads have smoked wreed like 75% of them have smoked ciggarettes and 85% of them have eaten chicken. There`s no way to pin any blame on weed itself for people moving on to harder drugs.
What you CAN blame is the fact that lies and deception have been used for years to "fight" against marijuana. So when kids find out it`s not nearly as bad* as they were told for the jist of their life, it`s not so hard for them to assume al the other drugs may not be so bad either.
*I`m not saying it`s a miracle drug, but there`s no way in hell anyone can say D.A.R.E.`s take on marijuana 10 years ago was accurate.
Mom: ``Sure hunnie``
Also, I`ve found that discussions about marijuana use on IAB/YT are pointless. Both sides "know everything" and think the other one is only using one type of information.
Marijuana is bad, just like inhaling campfire smoke is bad. It hampers brain growth in adolescent use and is one of the leading causes of schizophrenia in todays youth. That being said, it`s still a whole lot better for you/more fun than alcohol.
"You`re smoking marijuana"
I enjoy killing people with my bare hands...should that be made legal too because I `enjoy it`?
Wonder how the story ends~
Would it shock you to know that plenty of successful, college-educated, highly acclaimed people in the world use marijuana? That doesn`t mean they`re also alcoholics, or snort coke on the weekend, or beat their spouses, or commit murders.
It bothers me how so many people think marijuana is the root of all evil, when there are hardly any reports of misbehavior attributed to it. There are worse things in the world than weed, my friend. Drunk driving, child abuse and neglect, rape, animal cruelty, things that cause REAL harm.
I think giving kids this kind of lesson at an age when good and bad has very few shades of gray is pretty irresponsible.
Personally, I`d MUCH rather be driving on the road with someone who had smoked some weed than someone who`s been drinking.
Regardless though, if it were legalized its not like driving high would be legalized to. Having weed illegal obviously isn`t doing anything to stop people from driving while high.
I don`t really think there should be books on MJ for KIDS... they can figure it out on their own when they go to college. =P They don`t need to hear about it when they`re 5 freaking years old.
I bet later on in the book it`s like "don`t let yourself anywhere near the candy aisle when you`ve smoked a joint." Ahh, munchies...
OH THE HORROR!!!!!!-----It can make people not think straight, and if they were to go drive a car they might go hit someone. Not like alcohol hasn`t already accomplished this though...
OH THE HORROR!!!!!!!
In all honesty I don`t see anything wrong with this other than the way they pretty much promote it. I think it`s good that they acknowledge it exsists, but come on, righting a whole book about it?
What it`s about is being able to decide for yourself whether or not you want to sit back and light up a joint instead of drinking a beer.
There`s no reason for it to be illegal.