Scientists Close to Creating Artificial Life

Submitted by: Snoogans 10 years ago in Science
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R4H0Q00&show_article=1

3 to 7 years left and counting.
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Male 1,265
How am I a hypocrite?

Actually scratch asking you here, I think I`ll try and mail you.

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Male 563
B3nt
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47 Posts Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:33:28 AM
KMeTG, davymid, you guys are my heros. Tayreed, little boy you are WAY out of your league in this argument. And no, modern psychology does not mention RELIGION as a requirement for self-actualization... or is psychology bogus now as well? You Jesus freaks appall me. All that us science lovers/atheists/anti-christians/ anti-religionists want is for you religious types to leave us the FU<K alone. Stay out of our lives, stop preaching to us, stop lobbying legislation to create laws that take away MY liberty just so that you can feel as if you are in good standing with your "Sky Fairy".

And this is the kind of thing that gives atheists an undeserved and very bad reputation.

KMeTG.... you`re just a furkin hypocrite XD

Then again, so am I. I said to post only as relevant to the topic, and I haven`t exactly done that much have I ._.? Just one sentance.... *palmforehead*

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Male 563
It pisses me off this creationist/religious idea of "Oh, we can`t explain this or that particular phenomenon now with science, therefore God must have done it". That`s right. It`s not down to the laws of physics/chemistry/mathematics. It was the great unreachable, unknowable Sky Fairy that did it. Cause it says so in this book I`ve got here. I`ve got a book, it`s called Harry F*cking Potter.

Davymid, you just made my day. I don`t agree with you, but that was hilareous XD
Not your view, I have no problem with you believing what you want to (though I wish you`d respect other`s beliefs as well). But calling God the Sky Fairy... rofl
But just one other random comment, why is it that everyone who believes in God MUST believe everything in the Bible and about Jesus? I certainly don`t, so therefore I must not really exist?

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Male 563
tayreed, magicaltoast, and like 3 other people here deserve a cookie
*gives them whatever kind of cookie they like*
Haha that`s a good thing, I`m not trying to be sarcastic/an @$$hole/etc.
I`m referring to the people who state their own belief and ask that people respect theirs and those of others. We`re all entitled to our own opinion, I think people should only post theirs for the reasons that it is relavent to the video though. I mean, isn`t that what we`re supposed to comment on anyway?

Anyhoo, in my eyes this could be either wonderful and helpful or a complete disaster. Most likely a little of both =/, but I hope the little disaster part is worth the funhelpfulhappytime part :3[/littlekidness]

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Male 1,265
At least it`ll come back, unlike Jesus.
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Male 602
My uncle is andrew breitbart! That`s his website!
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Male 3,255
The ignorant idiots: AN INVISABLE WIZARD IN THE SKY DID IT!

The smart idiots: NO HE DIDENT!

Me: STFU! We don`t get to be alive for all that long, so just shut the drat up and let the interesting things happen while your alive to experience them!

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Male 98
Thank you davymid.
One thing I`d like to say here is that for the past week I`ve been at a religious festival thing. I turned up because a friend of mine was going, and entered as an atheist, bordering on agnostic.
Now I am fully agnostic, unable to make a real decision.
Religion isn`t like science in that you need to experience it rather than research it. People who yell at religion have had no experience of it, this is made clear by the closed minded statements.
Those who bash religion for it having no answers are ignorant. Those who bash science for being impossible by God are ignorant. Religion has as many answers as science. Science has as many as religion. They`re both acceptable answers. They can overlap.
Religious people are often saying that people should open their minds to experience God. This makes sense to me now. But, some religious people ought to open their minds too, to experience logic.
Experience both properly before you throw your insult.
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Male 1,265
I didn`t realise 97.5% of the population were so ignorant.

Oh, wait, yes I did.

Religion only causes problems. People should decide for themselves and have their own moral code to live by.

Mine is simple: help others, right people`s wrongs, and do the best I can at all times.

I don`t know if there is a higher power in this universe. I don`t know if there is a heaven or hell. It`s not something I`ll know until my life ends. But I do know that if I live my life according to that code, then higher power or not, I`ll have led a good life.

davymid`s right, assuming everything we don`t know is attributable to God is simply moronic.

How long have animals been sexually reproducing? Hundreds of millions of years. Yet it was only around 200 years ago - possibly less - that science found semen was necessary for fertilisation.

I`m willing to bet that up until then, everyone assumed children were God`s will.

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Male 12,138
Waltos,

Excellent post, and thoughtful comments. I completely agree with you. And for the record, I am raging here not against Christians (or Muslims, or Hindus). I believe it`s more important to modern society to be a good and moral person. What religion someone belongs to is actually irrelevant.

My rant is against those religious nuts who come out guns blazing as an opponent to science. I am a professional scientist (PhD Geology) so for me it is more than just stupidity, it is a personal insult to my whole life, my career, everything.

Science can`t prove everything, and religion can prove nothing. I denounce any religious nut who comes out as an opponent to scientific progress because it disagrees with your book. I equally denounce so-called atheists who immediately attack any religious idea. You`re just lowering yourselves to their level.

Everything in it`s place. Science in real life, Religion in the faith. Whatever helps people sleep at night.

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Male 179
If science was convincing anyone, then atheists wouldn`t be such a vast minority. Around 2.5% of the woulds population. And Christianity, mainly Catholicism is growing.
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Male 98
Why does everyone look at the stereotype?A person can be Christian and believe that science answers questions. Does it not make sense to people that God could have guided the universe subtly throughout it`s existance.
A person can be atheist and not be an evil follower of satan who will be damned for eternity.
Having experienced both atheism and religion I remain agnostic. Saying that there`s GOT to be something is stupid. Saying that there CAN`T be something is equally stupid. There`s always two explanations to every event, one on each side, and only thought and deliberation can find them.
I like to think if there is something, a power, it won`t mind about belief, but how the life was lived, how kind etc.Who`s living that here? The christians that yell at everyone for playing God, is that taking the forgiving stance of Jesus? The atheists scorning at belief, we`re all humanity, do you have no sense of empathy? You may not believe in religion, but what of morality? Help others
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Male 96
KMeTG, davymid, you guys are my heros. Tayreed, little boy you are WAY out of your league in this argument. And no, modern psychology does not mention RELIGION as a requirement for self-actualization... or is psychology bogus now as well? You Jesus freaks appall me. All that us science lovers/atheists/anti-christians/ anti-religionists want is for you religious types to leave us the FU<K alone. Stay out of our lives, stop preaching to us, stop lobbying legislation to create laws that take away MY liberty just so that you can feel as if you are in good standing with your "Sky Fairy".
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Female 428
Gotta love Science.
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Male 12,138
KMeTG,

You`re right, science can`t explain everything, but science is closing the gaps all the time. It pisses me off this creationist/religious idea of "Oh, we can`t explain this or that particular phenomenon now with science, therefore God must have done it". That`s right. It`s not down to the laws of physics/chemistry/mathematics. It was the great unreachable, unknowable Sky Fairy that did it. Cause it says so in this book I`ve got here. I`ve got a book, it`s called Harry F*cking Potter.

There is a place for religion in society, and in people`s private lives. But don`t you religious nuts try to make out like it`s "Religion or Science, take your pick", because it`s a losing battle for you.

Keep religion in it`s place, and keep science in it`s place (it`s called progress).

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Male 1,265
Granted, science can`t explain everything. But true science is about learning the facts while religion is about settling for the most convenient idea. In the Bible, people seem to think that the stars are tiny dots that can literally be held in the hand. That`s because they look like it. Science has found otherwise.

Science is flawed like anything, but if the desire to learn the facts didn`t exist, people would still be living in caves dancing to stop the lightning.

It`s not about explaining everything. There`s probably an answer for everything if you`re religious. But is it the right answer?

Is it bollocks.

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Male 2,306
Hey, Billy, when are you going to crawl out from under your rock?
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Male 17
You see, for you people who aren`t religious, science can`t explain everything that`s happened. And neither can religion. But that`s what people believe. So don`t go spreading your science crap like it can explain everything (KMeTG) because it can`t!
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Male 65
Terminator countdown:

3-7 years and counting.

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Male 243
yea g`nite
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Male 1,265
`night dude
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Male 243
im gonna go 2 bed soon.. ttyl
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Male 243
lol icic
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Male 1,265
"r u a secular humanist? or marxist/ leninist?"

I dunno. I`m just me, and I think religion is bollocks. The only religion I`ve so far come across that I like is Buddhism, and that`s because it concentrates on the teachings of a man instead of a God. And I happen to agree with some of those teachings.

Some of the things Jesus said had some point to them that was very relevant, but the Bible is too unstructured and self-contradictory to be taken seriously. Here`s how the Bible was written:

Person A makes a statement, B listens. B repeats, C listens. C discusses it with friends D and E, D goes away to tell F while E writes it down. F writes another version and gets it different to E. E and F compare and ask D for help. D can no longer remember the story accurately. D, E, and F collaborate on the best version of events. G reads it and tells H about it. H uses it as the inspiration for his own story. Eventually someone compiles it. Voila, Bible.

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Female 1,002
Anywaaaaay...
This could come in handy if used for good, but if it was put into the wrong hands...you could probably do some damage to our planet and what lives upon it.
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Female 1,002
Blah blah blah, science VS religion war...BOOOORING and VERY POINTLESS.
Please comment on what you think about artificial life perhaps becoming possible in a few years, they have forums and what not for discussing your view on religion and science.
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Male 243
lol, sorry about that mistake... i just wish that that mistake hadn`t hindered and completely changed what I meant to say... lol. actually, there I believe that God (as he created man) knows their hearts, and if a certain person or people group hasnt heard the gospel, he can decide based on their innate sense of right and wrong, senses and conscience where they generally belong.. btw, r u a secular humanist? or marxist/ leninist? jw
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Male 1,265
"In theory"

No, in hypothesis. A theory is a model that can be applied to a certain situation or occurrence and will correctly predict the results. The theory of gravity states that an object held aloft and released will fall to the earth. Testing the theory reveals the outcome to be supporting of the theory.

Your `theory`, however, falls short of the mark. You seem to think that people can`t be happy without God. Hey y`know what? If being a Christian makes you happy, good for you. I`m happy for you. What about the millions of people who have never known the name of God? Are they all unhappy as well? Was everyone miserable until about 2000 years ago, when Christianity began to flourish? Of course not.

The light of your life might be the being you call God, but your own life can`t be applied as a model to everyone else`s. God needs me more than I need him.

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Male 243
hey,
well if what your saying is true, more power to you! thats commendable.. but unfortunately I think that what your saying isn`t true, your trying to comfort the fact that it isnt by pretending it is, and you start to actually believe it. In theory. btw, u cant use this argument against me cuz i used it against u first. hehe :\ lol
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Male 15
To tayreed: I am an atheist and i don`t feel any part of my life missing i feel successful and living a good life. I have no problem with my life being the end of it all. Form some reason this thought seems to be horrific to some people. I believe that the purpose of life it to procreate. Plain and simple.

To magicaltoast: I have read that none of the famous historians of the first century ever noted a man from Israel. About the bodies of saints, look up the body of Lenin. his body is guessing about 80 years old and it is almost perfect. because it is very well preserved.
as for this cry statue i have found very little on the internet bout it is at all.

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Male 243
sorry man, but im truly happy where i`m at.. .. thanks for the suggestion tho :)
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Male 243
ahem.. um lol hehe
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Male 1,265
tayreed your sympathy is much appreciated, however I`d like to point out that while my life isn`t perfect, I don`t think there`s any gaps that religion can fill.

I think you only go around pointing out to others what`s wrong with their lives because there`s something wrong with yours, namely that you choose to believe a collection of stories that have little or no basis in reality and fact. The people in the Bible believe that the stars are little points that can be caught in the hand and stamped upon.

If anything, today`s knowledge that stars are vast just makes Christian beliefs that much more fantastical and wonderful to the believer, and that much more ridiculous to the non-believer.

My faith lies with the belief that I go through life doing what I think is the right thing, then maybe that`ll mean I`ve led a good life. We only get one chance, I`d suggest you stop being God`s lapdog and live your own life.

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Female 878
Ho snap.
It`s a god war in the IAB.
Because all smart people with valid opinions argue on the internet.
And yes, I do see the irony.
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Male 157
i love tayreed and magicaltoast gj guys
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Female 17
KMeTG, like I said, we were all raised differently. Actually I believe that the Catholic King was a hypocrite, although I believe in God as well. If he truly understood his religion, then he would have known that there is something called the the Ten Commandments and other such verses in the Bible that are against his actions of killing. Maybe if he wasn`t raised to be a brutal and power-hunger king, he wouldn`t have done the Crusades. I think it was his attitude and ignorance of his religion that made him do what he did--not being Catholic. However, I am not 100% sure of what the Muslims believe so I have no right to call them hypocrites, but what if the bombers had the same attitudes as those who do not bomb? Same religion. Just different life-style. Yes, people fight over religious things. But I think it`s because people were brought up to fight like that--not because they are that religion.
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Male 243
them as in unbelievers, sorry... oh and when i talk to you im referring to you if ur a nonchristian
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Male 243
btw, theres an element of christianity that is called faith. the bible even explains that the ideas of the bible will seem foolish to them until they are saved and the holy spirit shall open there eyes. It also says that Satan blinds the eyes of the unbelievers. NOT A DIRECT QUOTE< JUST THE JIST OF IT. basically, im sorry, i feel bad for you... I may sound stupid but, you..yes you .. you know something is missing in your life.. you feel it and know it.. but your going to argue and look to science to fill this void.. but you are looking to the wrong place. you need GOD! Im telling the truth, i sincerely recomend that you stop wasting your time, and once you are a christian (*not a hypocrite) you will feel sorry for others.. and you will wish that you would have given christianity a true effort earlier.. seriously, try it!! you`ll see! im not trying to be judgemental, im trying to help .. :)
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Female 17
mikepat992, if you believe in the Bible, then the Bible could be evidence of God. There are also some documentations of Jesus. These documents, Jesus being the son of God or the Holy Lord or whatever you believe, could be used as evidence. The crying Statue of Fatima could be used as evidence. The dead uncorrupted bodies of some saints could be used as evidence. These "Healing Waters" whether you wish to believe in them could be used as evidence. Etc. etc. This doesn`t PROVE anything. It`s evidence. Just like the evidence of evolution and the Big Bang theory. It doesn`t PROVE it. It`s evidence that supports the hypothesis.
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Male 243
wow, nice @ kmetg`s first post... quote nietsche (sp?) a guy who basically thought he figured out that "God is dead, everythings permissable, so I can do anything, so life has no point" Guess what he ultimately got from believing his own theory?? He went insane and died alone.. i`d find another source of wisdom kmetg. I luv how you point out the stupidity of doctrine from the bible, while you quote and teach from nietsche`s philosophy...
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Male 15
I don`t think cool then freeze is the right phrase. The proper scientific explanation is that all energy transfers to heat were it is unusable and entropy reaches a maximum and all process stop and the universe becomes static
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Male 1,265
"Ok! You`ve got me! Things that have happened hundreds of years ago! What about the bombs that science has created in the last 50-60? and the other weapons that scientists are creating that can literally kill millions in a split second."

Why are those bombs made in the first place? Well, to either kill people, or to defend your own people from being killed. But why attack people in the first place?

More often than not it`s religion. Sometimes other factors are involved, but a hell of a lot of atrocities are committed in the name of someone`s God. Do you think scientists enjoy making such weapons? Einstein himself stated that if he had known the Germans would not succeed in creating nuclear weapons then he would not have helped the US. Oppenheimer reported on the first nuclear explosion with tears in his eyes, stating that he had "become Death."

What about the suicide bombings and beheadings and stuff that Muslim radicals commit?

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Male 1,265
By the way, the universe is not like a balloon in that a balloon is a container, while there is no such thing for the universe. It doesn`t expand into empty space, it makes the space as it goes. It`s not possible to reach the edge of the universe either. Space and Time are curved so that if you were to start at a point and keep going in the same direction, eventually you`d find yourself back where you started.
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Male 1,265
"Now if the universe had randomly expanded. Would it not have reached it`s overload point years ago? Would it be no different then a balloon? Exploded after it expanded so much? The laws of physics demand it."

How the drat do you know?

Let`s not forget, all the energy in the universe propelled the Big Bang, and is still propelling it. There are 3 ways this can go:

1. The Big Freeze. The universe continues to expand until it is too big, at which point it will cool and then freeze.

2. The Big Crunch. The universe will reach a point, and then under it`s own gravity collapse under it`s own weight, much like a black hole. This is the most favourable option, as it will most likely lead to a new universe and it`s probable ours was born of such an event.

3. Static universe, where it stops expanding and reaches a state of equilibrium before it gets the chance to cool and freeze.

Research indicates it is still expanding.

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Male 1,265
Ask yourself this, magicalToast:

If the catholic king weren`t catholic, would he have tried to take the Holy Land?

If those people who waste their lives killing others and themselves weren`t Muslim, would they still do it?

The answer is no. People fight over many things and religious belief is one of them.

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Male 15
one thing magicaltoast: Evidence of the existence of God... I have never heard any evidence pointing towards the existence of God. Please fill me in.

And i am not sure which is which but:
93/97% of all wars have a direct connection with the church or religion in general.
93/97% of all Christians are not true Christians.

I end with a joke:
A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.

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Female 17
And yes, Fox4Brawl, I agree with you. Sorry everyone for such a long comment. ^-^;;
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Female 17
“drat you; you are so stupid for thinking this”. We all had different lives so we have different beliefs.

Thus concludes my post-thingy. If there is some flaw in this or something, please tell me so I know.

And hi! I am magicalToast and I have just made my first posts on IAB! How are you? =D

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Female 17
swer EVERYTHING. Maybe close to it, but not all.

The matter that religion caused war and the like also came up. I believe that religion did not caused war. People caused it. Just because some Catholic King wanted to start the Crusades, it doesn’t mean that all Catholics believed in that. Just because some Muslims wanted to plant bombs in places, it doesn’t mean all Muslims do the same thing. Just because some Asians believe seafood is delicious, does it mean ALL Asians like seafood? Just because some Caucasians believe vanilla ice cream should be the #1 flavor, does it mean ALL Caucasians believe etc. etc.? Get my point?

As for this science-cell-thingy that was created, maybe God wanted scientists to create it. This type of knowledge would help us later in life.

I do not mean to impose my belief on others. I’m just simply stating my belief. If I have offended you in some way, I apologize. It’s not my intention. I respect your beliefs. It’s just the &

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Female 17
Wow. There has been a lot of religion vs. science debates going around IAB. Why can`t people believe what they want to believe? Does every opinion have to be insulted in some way? It`s one thing to post your belief, but it`s another thing to just insult someone else`s belief and saying that your right.

Nothing has been PROVEN yet. There is some EVIDENCE of the Big Bang and some EVIDENCE of God and some EVIDENCE that some other thing was right. People believe based on the evidence given to them. Why insult them on the way he/she was raised up?

We all don’t really know God’s intention for the misfortune in the world, and we probably don’t know what’s His plan right now. So why are we saying stuff like God thinks this is bad or good? Or God wants that and such? If it’s in the Bible, would you please post the verses so I may see? Thank you very much if you do so.

Science, if used in the right way, is very helpful indeed. But I highly doubt science can an

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Male 15
my mistake for the http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html sute it is more like 7 minutes in.
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Male 15
I can`t take the credit davymid. www.thegodmovie.com go to the sound track and listen to "the god who wasnt there" track #6.
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Male 15
The second one i don`t feel like typing out. Go to: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html about a minute or to you will here someone doing stand up, that is the other one. feel free(everyone not just theist or atheist) to watch the rest of the movie. I have only watch part one personally but and in the process of watching the rest.
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Male 12,138
Mikepat992,

Laugh my f*cking arse off.

If I ever become President of the World, I want you on my team. If I only had 30 seconds on TV to make my point, I would use your post my man.

High motherf*ckin 5.

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Male 455
Well, this only means that we have to wait another few million years before multi-celled organisms start spawning from petri dishes in university labs, and then a few more million years before our competition comes to the startling realization that we are awesome and cannot be trumped.
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Male 15
And i to said God, "You carried me? What the [email protected] are you talking about! My dog died, my sister got killed in a car accident. Maybe instead of carrying me you could have just stopped those things from every happening. Did you ever think of that, you [email protected] prick." And God replied, "you stupid human do not question the lord. I [email protected] with you then i carry you, its something i just enjoy doing. If you don`t like it you can just go to hell.
"Ok god. I`m sorry. I didn`t mean to hurt your feelings. I just don`t understand why you make everybody suffer so much just you can carry then on the beach. But thats cool, thats your thing. God, God, wait, wait, come back, please come back, God, i need you. I think I have cancer
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Male 157
2 all the athiests that just love 2 bash theists:
and thiests 2 cuz its funny as hell:

2 all the athiests that just love 2 bash theists, and fellow christians cuz its funny as hell:

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Male 15
Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:19:12 PM
"One night i dreamed i was looking along a beach with god, across the sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene i noticed two sets of footprints in the sand, one belong to me and the other too god. But i noticed something strange, notice that many time along the path of my life there was only one set of footprints. I also noticed that it happened at the hardest times of my life. I said, "god, i have noticed that during the difficult times of my life there is only one set of footprints, i don`t understand why when i needed you the most you would leave me." God replied, "i didn`t leave you, during your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of foot prints, that is when i carried you,"
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Male 15
Half of me is very aggressive towards theists and the other half of my agrees with davymid and fox4brawl. But the one thing that i must say is about the huge irony of most religions that have a heaven and a hell. very long it will take about 3 posts.

these are two things that i have heard that express this:

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Male 12,138
Johnnek123,

You sit there behind your COMPUTER, posting via the INTERNET your opinion which is read by the worldwide community behind their COMPUTERS that SCIENCE IS BAD and we`d be better off without it.

It`s like the Amish using a telephone to complain that technology is evil.

Grow up, you hypocrite, go back to the Stone Age. You`ll have your Bible to keep you warm. Wanker.

Crap.

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Male 12,138
Fox4Brawl,

I agree with you completely. There is no argument between atheist/agnostic scientists (most of whom are very good people who lead the "decent life" you rightly describe) and Christians. We just have different points of view on certain aspects of our existence, and that should be encouraged and tolerated.

I agree wholeheartedly with your idea of an almighty "God". If he`s such a petty b*stard to send me to "hell" because I lead a good life while being skeptical of the guy in the face of evidence, then he`s a jealous, vindictive being and I wouldn`t consider him to be a good, just God.

If all Christians (Muslims/Jews/Atheists) were as open-minded as ou, the world would not be in the state it`s in right now.

High 5.

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Male 179

And back to KMeTG: Ok! You`ve got me! Things that have happened hundreds of years ago! What about the bombs that science has created in the last 50-60? and the other weapons that scientists are creating that can literally kill millions in a split second.

Or how about that fact that since 1901-2001 socialist Atheists have killed over 100,000,000 people, and that ghastly number rises each day.

Science is great!

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Female 288
hmm. hehe
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Male 12,138
A Bible-thumper on here asked a while ago "Have any of you actually READ the bible?"

Well, I have (I`m a recovering Christian), and to quote Dawkins, the "God" of the [Biblical] Old Testament is possibly the most unpleasant character in all fiction.

The Bible is an instruction manual on mass genocide, race-hate, fear-mongering, child abuse and oppression (especially of women).

To make the last point, here`s a quote from 1 Timothy 2, verses 11-12 (King James Version):

"11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." (no bullsh*t, look it up)

Do any of you guys who hold up the bible as our source of morality, as the book by which we should live our lives, actually have any idea what is written in there?

I`ll put my money on science, rather than a 2000+ year old book of fables.

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Male 233
wow. It`s amazing how science has advanced.
and to my fellow christians:
they`re not going to create humans.
they`re creating a tiny water animal. Is it even munticellular?
If it`s God`s plan for it to happen, it will.

THANK YOU millamopico.
(i am not trying to be an ass, its hard to represent tone of voice in text)

just another reason towards christians (not nessecarily against.) Who says "God" doesnt want this to happen? because if you all beleive in "Him" the almighty powerful way you do, that he wouldn`t simply stop it and smite the heathens?

The way I see religion, an almighty "God" shouldn`t care if or how you worship, just simply if you lead a decent life and act towards others as you should, and make something of yourself. I don`t see why any higher being would care, as long as you didn`t go about bashing other people and what they do.

Does anyone agree?

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Male 179
KMeTG, There is no way we can prove everything that happened in the bible, so I guess we`re at a loss then. But then again, scientists are so prone to believe in carbon dating? Then why can`t our ancient text be as accurate as that? "Oh because it sound ridiculious!!!!1!11!" So does the thought of the universe randomly expanding.

Now if the universe had randomly expanded. Would it not have reached it`s overload point years ago? Would it be no different then a balloon? Exploded after it expanded so much? The laws of physics demand it.


And converseUK, no that`s not how I chose my debates, but I thought since you and I were both here, I`d defend what I believe in, since you`re doing the same. And we have free will, people choose their own paths in this world. and yes, I know what the argument to that is, "we can`t have free will with an omnipresent being."

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Male 1,526
I wish IAB`s age profile would be more specific. There are big differences between age 13-17.
I`m not pointing any fingers, but the spelling usually shows if the person is in the lower or upper numbers, or from another non english speaking country...If swedes would spell like a "1337 c00l haxor" like say english speaking minors would use 4 instead of for I would be ashamed to even give what he writes a second thought
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Male 559
I like macedonpimp; he is too funny.
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Male 1,270
ah macedonpimp, nice of you to join us again.

I`m sorry, but you`re happy life seems to have a lot of roadblocks. Oh, you can`t have sex before marriage? Unlucky.

Looks like you`ll be staying on Virginity Street for quite a while, right?

Or are you going to tell me you`re one of these `religious types` who pick and choose.

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Male 157
u no wat, at this point idc if im rite or rong, but i can bet u that i am happier then all the athiests cuz i no that god will reward me 4 doing right and punish me 4 doing rong and i have a family that i love...and that if athiests and theists got in a war we would kick ur ass.
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Male 15
BS^
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Male 39
This is all wrong. No human should ever play the role of god.
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Male 82
Great, I go from playing Bioshock to hearing about this...
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Male 15
Ok, I have on simple question for all theists, You read a book that has parts 2000 years old and others even older.... I read a book that is 70 years old that says there is an old man that live at the north pole and brings presents to people once a year for no reason, has a set of flying reindeer, and a bunch of toy making elves work for him. So what make your book more right than my book mine is even newer and more recent. And every year i wake one day and there are present at my house. So i assume you think that elves and flying reindeer exist?
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Female 122
wow. It`s amazing how science has advanced.
and to my fellow christians:
they`re not going to create humans.
they`re creating a tiny water animal. Is it even munticellular?
If it`s God`s plan for it to happen, it will.
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Male 410
Great . . giant wildabeasts will take over the world.
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Male 1,265
There`s a whole book on it, called Genesis, I`m expecting some Bible-basher to come along and tell us that God made everything in 6 days "because it says so".
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Male 549
INSERT BIG PARAGRAPH ARGUING THEOLOGICAL VIEWS HERE!

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Male 15
(ran out of space)
It can be proven that the heavier elements in this scenario(carbon, oxygen, ammonia) were created by fusion and supernova in stars. The stars were formed by hydrogen gas collecting. The origin of the hydrogen gas is the matter produced in the big bang. The only real argument that should be discussed is what casued the big bang.

Here are the possibilities and problems as i see it:
1. God(where did god come from to cause the big bang?)
2.M-theory(the theory itself is still incomplete)

the thing about the big bang is that modern physics can explain every even in the universe back until .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds after the big bang. The problem is that current phyics is divided into quantum physics and Macro(not the right word but serves the point)physics. The problem is the big bang requires equation that combined both together(m-theory). The law that govern that fraction of time are not yet understood.

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Male 15
A few quick things:
1. Hypotheses is the believe result of an experiment based on logical thought
2. Theses is conclusion based on the result of an experiment
3. A theory is a highly supported thesis with large amounts and percentages of evidence supporting it
4. a law is an undisbutable fact of nature(at least four our universe)

Now it is a fact that in an expirament done by Stanley Miller, I belive, proved that from completely inorganic material(Hydrogen, Ammonia, Sulfur, and other things) was heated and eletric current was run through it, organce ammino acids (among other things) formed. This is key because the gases and liquid that were used are believed to have been on primordial earth. The heat represent the warm CO2 rich atmosphere and the electricity represents lighting. This proves that organic matter can come from inorganic matter.

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Female 333
i wish religion and science would stop clashing. Its makes people argue.. which is not good.. but
i think saying people cant create life because god made the life is like saying you cant make play dough things becase the factory made the play dough in the first place. We have things in the world that some people learn about and play around with to make new things and we`re learning how to create living things in new ways...
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Male 1,265
War doesn`t determine who is right, it determines who is left.
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Male 46
reece1121
You are my hero.
As for the god matter, stick to your beliefs and respect someone elses point of view.

But I know this won`t happen. Everyone always wants to prove that they are right. For example, WWII. Hitler wanted to kill catholics because they didn`t think Tojo was the next savior.

Or what about the 9-11 attacks. Some people are Islamic radicals. They believe that everyone should be Islamic. Also some say that this was because of Americas stupid gov`t did it to them selves. No body will ever win. Fights on who is right or wrong will last until the two sides kill each other.

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Male 38
Wow. Lets give it a rest people, South Park explains everything. I`m sure if religion were dead, people (and giant sea otters riding ostriches) would fight over which scientific theory is better.
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Male 1,265
Oh no, hilbillyjo, it`s quite simple. A single point, known as a singularity, contained all the energy and matter in the universe. At some point around 13 billion years ago, it began to expand at a tremendous rate, akin to an explosion. Hence, the Big Bang. That was the beginning of the universe as we know it.

Happy now?

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Male 740
great. now its gonna grow into a superhuman and enslave us all
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Male 3,431
Alright to recap...who remembers what the video was actually about?
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Male 2,306
Why do idiots, and YECs come into here? This experiment is being done to prove that abiogenesis is possible, and when it becomes a water-tight scientific theory, then we don`t need God for `why` we got here.

You will all then be astonished to know that we came from a rock [really more like organic molecules, nitrogen, carbon, oxygen, methane, etc.], rather than a pile of `goop.`

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Male 1,270
I`m not trying to hilbillyjo...

I`m saying that putting it down to `god` is physically and scientifically impossible.

In all honesty, its a stupid argument made up of, literally, thin air.

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Male 17
ConeverseUK and KMeTG, you can`t explain the beginning of the universe. Don`t even try. No one can. Not even religious people.
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Male 1,270
While I`m here...

Religion was good in the past. It taught a lot of valuable stuff to people, for example the eating of certain meats. It`s a fact that at the time and place, some meats should be avoided as they`d be harmful, and religion found a way of teaching this.

However, with power, religions started controlling people. It prevented the advancement of scientific discovery. Did you know that Galileo was put under house arrest for his discoveries? Only recently did the church appologise and admit they were wrong to science.

I`m not going to let a bunch of bible-bashers control how far we advance as a race.

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Male 1,265
By the way, Johnnyk123, I`d suggest you look up your definition of theory because you`re confusing it with a hypothesis. A hypothesis is simply an idea or opinion that cannot be proved. A theory is an idea that answers all the questions. The laws of gravity are a theory.
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Male 17
After reading all these comments, I`m not going to argue, I`m just going to say that neither God or the Big Bang can be proven. There`s holes in both the theories, but you can believe what you want.

I, personally, believe in the laws of equivalent exchange. You can`t create something from nothing, and it is wrong to try and create (Or bring back)life.

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Male 1,265
Johnnyk123: Science may cause trouble such as people arguing, but religion has caused many more, on a much grander scale. The Crusades are only one historical example. These days we`ve got kids blowing themselves up to kill others in the name of religion.

Religion only leads to people getting pissed off with other people. Religion is the cause of this whole debate in the first place.

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Male 1,270
Ah JohnnyK...Already throwing words into my mouth, I hope that`s not how you`d normally chose to debate...

Or do you also believe that we don`t chose our actions and we`re all part of a preplanned existence?

Wow, what a way to take all the joys out of living.

`Hey so like you`re not original in any way at all. Basically theres this guy sitting on a cloud making us do everything. Oh, evolution? Just a myth...ignore all that proof we have.`

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Male 17
Yay, they trampled all over the laws of equivalent exchange! Homonculi are coming!
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Male 1,526
id rather have a robotic arm than an organic if i loose it...but i will be dead before thats possible.

religion is a story made to control the masses.
Its what makes this world a pooty place, without religion there would not be many wars. but if there were no wars the world would be over populated, still i don`t think religion has any place in the modern world.

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Male 145
B. I`d like to tell you to cut the religion-bashing please! :) We all have our own beliefs, and we can choose what to believe, so I can choose to believe in God, thank you very much! I understand that you might not believe in God but there`s no need to yell at the people who DO believe in God. :)

The problem is that the bible thumber most likely will try to prevent this taking place. I strongly oppose this.

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Female 579
A. Cool! Artificial life! Make the perfect person without robotics. XD

B. I`d like to tell you to cut the religion-bashing please! :) We all have our own beliefs, and we can choose what to believe, so I can choose to believe in God, thank you very much! I understand that you might not believe in God but there`s no need to yell at the people who DO believe in God. :)

Thank you for listening :)

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Male 559
in after christfags
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Male 179
Walrusgod, have you ever read the bible?
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Male 179
I know. The big Bang THEORY, is a perfectly logical THEORY. `Much better then the prospect that we could possibly have been made by intelligence...`

"= sarcasm.

ConserseUK I`ll take up your offer for a debate.
Allow me to start... Science is a sham. There is no proof that the Big Bang Theory/Evolution exists and is merely a hobby. Science is in fact causing more trouble then we`re asking for. If I went around telling people that everything around us, trees, animals, and humans came from chance, why I`d sound like an arrogant bastard.

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Male 145
Nobody cares if scientists make a new and better car, but the second anyone as much as touches their beliefs it`s a sin and playing God etc. etc.

If you religious nuts really hate progress that much go live with the bloody amish.

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Male 1,265
I was wondering how long it would take before the God-botherers crawled out of the woodwork.

Tell me, anyone, who made God? Perhaps He was always there. Or, maybe, he was created. God could have a mother and father and maybe even a whole family. Now there`s a thought: perhaps we`re all part of some Biblical project for a teenage God`s science class. Perhaps he lets stuff like AIDS and earthquakes happen simply because he finds it fun, just like we might find it fun to pull the wings off a fly.

Or, maybe, religion is bollocks and God doesn`t exist. Here`s the deal though. I don`t know if there`s some higher being Up There who controls all. It`s not something I`d imagine I`d ever know. But I do know that the God described in the Bible is fake. The Bible is a collection of stories that have been blown up out of all proportion. We might as well make a religion out of the Canterbury Tales.

God is dead.

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Male 1,270
^^ Look on the bright side, he`s wearing classic all-stars.

Kid`s got style.

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Male 1,270
Macedonpimp, I`ll take up your offer for a debate.

Allow me to start...`god` does not exist. There is no proof that `he/she/it` exists, and is merely a belief. Religion is in fact a mental illness...if I went around telling everyone I had an imaginery friend, I`d be called insane.

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Male 835
God will punish us all for this.
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Male 47
religion is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. i agree with mani-jac. there is NO evidence at all for it. the bible doesnt make sense either. religion is the same as alternative medicine, like homeopathy etc and things like astrology.
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Male 233
blipflip

notice, its called comments for a reason.

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Male 89
w.t.f^^ nice sarcasm lols :P
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Male 87
Oh the FEAR! Scientists are making BLOBS! I am an angry and bewildered internet commenter without any scientific knowledge but with a lot of wonderful opinions to share!
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Male 233
ion." uhhhhh....
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Male 233
i gotta agree with mani-jac. You can`t say God did everything. Im not atheist, something created the first things, but you cant tell me, that as old and huge as the universe is,that there is no life on other planets.

WHAT IS "playing God" anyways? It`s called evolution. We grow smarter and need to satisfy our need to advance. Call it "playing god," I call it saving our asses. This could be one of the greatest things ever, and could sure as hell help out this and other generations in solving some of the world`s problems.

Not to be perverted or anything tho...
can`t us guys make life with, eh, a certain part of the body? All you really need to do is find a way to keep them alive, and study how theyre made, thats creating life right there.

"We`re talking about a technology that could change our world in pretty fundamental ways—in fact, in ways that are IMPOSSIBLE to predict."

"But them getting out and taking over, never in our imaginat

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Male 645
Artifical Life....Sorry, But that just sounds like a nice way of saying undead to me. Eating toxic waste? I`d best get my shotgun ready. Sigh...
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Male 119
it can solve many important issues in our world today...like eating toxic waste...wtf
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Male 89
You`re f`ing hilarious, macedonpimp.
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Male 699
I guess you`re right, I`ve never really had a strong grasp on that `saying`.
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Male 538
^^they`re making life from scratch not matter.

when someone says they are making a cake from scratch, that doesn`t mean they are making their own matter, does it?

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Male 699
Made from scratch? So they`re doing the impossible and making their own matter?

Or what one should assume with how they worded it.

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Male 1,485
I agree with xp myself
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Male 357
@mani-jac

what difference does it make how you name all the thinks that are outside the knowledge of mankind. some call it god, some think there is nothing (which can also not be proofed) some think there is a plan that is just to be discovered but not a person.....no matter what we think...fact is....because it is outside of our knowledge we do not know....so we can only be agnostic about it....there could be something or there could be nothing....everything in this sector is just believing something and this is personal and should be tolerated by everyone

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Male 270
Most impressive.
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Male 157
manijac i got all nite bring it
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Male 157
just sayin its convenient 4 u cuz god gave u life
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Male 157
not the only proof
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Male 157
yea it is convenient cuz ur alive bitch
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Male 27
and so the god fanatics and the science jerks come out to have their arguments. oh well, it`s still neat. humans should take control of thier own existence. no point in throwing your life up to some other being and hoping to not get boned. then again humans are also stupid and tend to screw themselves over quite often over the pettiest of things. either way there is good and bad to be had.
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Male 181
Yep, we`re doomed. Nice knowing all of you :D
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Male 157
then stop posting
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Male 357
sorry my browser makes trouble....
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Male 957
make artificial vaginas! woohoo!
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Male 538
guys, to clear things up. they are not making humans from scratch. just life-sustaining cells.

big difference. end of the world is not coming.

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Male 357
i don`t think that is doing the science in general well if such arrogant overstated articles are published because since i am a scientist myself i know that in principle we as humans do not know anything and by far cannot "create" in any other sense than copy and paste from existing materials.

because even when they put together fatty acids and established dna. it still leaves the question open where did the dna and the membrane come from in the first place and who or what brought them together. it is pretty arrogant to say something like wow we are so great and create life. when in reality we just play arround with existing building blocks...and even in this respect we are pretty lame.

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Male 157
hell yea kaseyface
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Male 336
3-10 years until the end of the world more like.
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Female 221
This is so wrong.

And even if they "created" life in a previously unknown way, it does not mean that they created a life. They say they can make it "from scratch"? Well guess what? God made the "scatch".

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Male 157
that would never work. first u need some clay then u need gods touch. stupids
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Male 234
Wow, nice... that could be SO useful tbh
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Male 559
I don`t know if I should be scared sh*tless or completely astonished
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Male 522
Life getting loose and running rampant? "Never in our imagination could this happen." --Famous last words...
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Male 1,263
Wow.
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Male 869
Link: Scientists Close to Creating Artificial Life [Rate Link] - 3 to 7 years left and counting.
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