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  1. Profile photo of Snoogans
    Snoogans Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2007 at 12:44 am
    Link: Feminists Who Pole Dance - This is the kind of feminism even the most conservative guys can get behind.
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    heartx3jess Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:20 am
    what.the.drat
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    xxminglexx Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:22 am
    Er... saw that on TV and I was like... right. I think I lost a few brain cells watching that. DAMN YOU IAB! YOU MADE ME LOSE TWICE WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD!
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    Axium Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:32 am
    Too long and too boring....
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    AtomicMuffin Male 13-17
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:32 am
    Slightly offtopic: I can`t stand the feminists who take every little thing as sexism, even things that aren`t.

    But that husband was pretty funny

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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:32 am
    I am above making a comment about this drating video clip...

    ****feels like she just took us back oh...50 years****idiots!

    B-|

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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:39 am
    Feminism is usually less about obtaining equality with men and more about simply hating them, but I am a fan of this type of feminism.
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    meander Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:45 am
    Okay, that made me laugh a lot, because I pole dance. It`s the hardest workout I`ve ever had, and frankly, I just think it`s silly people make such a big moral deal about it.
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    innergoth Male 13-17
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:45 am
    rrriiiggghhhttt...
    we want fair rights and stop being treated like a sex object so we`re going to pole dance. the sense just falls into place =/
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    meander Female 18-29
    45 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 2:49 am
    Suppose it depends on what you do with it. I think your intent may be different if you`re doing it in a club for men, as opposed to doing it for your own interest or fitness at home. >.> Obviously an aspect not covered. `nough said on my end.
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    AtomicMuffin Male 13-17
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:54 am
    innergoth:
    Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:45:54 AM
    rrriiiggghhhttt...
    we want fair rights and stop being treated like a sex object so we`re going to pole dance. the sense just falls into place =/
    ________________________________________________

    You said `we` like you were a woman but your gender says Male. Hrmmm?

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    TheGrag Male 13-17
    1497 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:00 am
    WAit... this is stupid.... your pole dancing.... Men LIKE pole dancers... and you hate men.... so why do you pole dance??? seems retarded if ya ask me
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    stereotypic Male 18-29
    356 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:17 am
    Wait....Viacom will have this removed pretty soon...

    CURSE YOU VIACOM!

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    flamingbambi Female 13-17
    235 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:25 am
    admittedly i wouldn`t mind trying that one day. But i really don`t see HOW that links to feminism.
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    FrcknA Male 18-29
    151 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:35 am
    YES! WAY TO GO FEMINISTS! Now we just have to get women to have sex with men without knowing each others` first names and were done!
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    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 6:10 am
    Nice... This is still a stripper dance to me
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 11, 2007 at 7:17 am
    AKappy
    Male, 18-29, Western US
    645 Posts Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:39:43 AM
    Feminism is usually less about obtaining equality with men and more about simply hating them, but I am a fan of this type of feminism.

    First off you`re male...young...white....What do you REALLY know about Feminism??? No it`s not about hating men. I myself am a feminist but I don`t hate men. I don`t hate my husband and my best friend of 10 years either, my uncles, stepfather..... Get your facts straight sweetie pie before you "type". As an African-American woman I look for equality among race and GENDER. That doesn`t mean that I have to bash men to get ahead in life. I just have to learn to educate others like yourself on what we are all about. And BTW, I am not a hairy butchy lesbian either....thanks!
    Everyone have a great day!!!!

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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
    756 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 7:22 am
    Has anyone seen one of the new "Pole Dancer Barbie" dolls yet? I`ve checked Walmart, but they haven`t received a shipment yet.
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    mikeyisred Female 13-17
    161 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 9:29 am
    well that just set us back 50 years.
    Difference: made.
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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
    756 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 10:27 am
    lostinkorea - "As an African-American woman I look for equality among race and GENDER."
    What does it matter if you`re African American or something else? Why can`t you simply state, "As an American woman...".

    Why must you single yourself out as African-American? By doing that, you are calling yourself out as different, which goes completely against your statement of "...look(ing) for equality among race and gender."

    As long as you qualify yourself as "African-American", you will never find equality in race. Using that term by default establishes your racial difference.

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    Qtpil13 Female 13-17
    164 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 11:20 am
    So if I started running around naked and sleeping with every guy I saw, would that make me a feminist? It would definitely "put me in touch with my sensual creature" or whatever nonsense that woman was spouting.
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    PJF1313 Male 40-49
    68 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 11:24 am
    Im sending my wife and my girlfriend to see her!
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    Critic123 Female 18-29
    267 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 11:26 am
    Well it`s a effective way to get more men supporting femonism....but it`s also giving men more opprotunity to be sexist so its kinda a no win situation...
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    Doomlike Male 13-17
    416 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 11:40 am
    Heh, pretty funny.

    But about feminists, I can`t stand them. Always thinking they`re better then every other woman because they act "correct", but who makes that statement ? The woman who use they`re sexuality too make money don`t think that way. So why does the stupid feminist think it is her buisness too stop her ? Also wages are lower because woman might get pregnant and have to stop work and because they do differend work then men. They`re plenty of woman being payed more. But no, feminist must overreact and act like men live twice as good.

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    bigsisjune Female 13-17
    214 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 12:00 pm
    innergoth:
    Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:45:54 AM
    rrriiiggghhhttt...
    we want fair rights and stop being treated like a sex object so we`re going to pole dance. the sense just falls into place =/
    ________________________________________________

    You said `we` like you were a woman but your gender says Male. Hrmmm?


    WTF? He said `we` as in he was acting like/making fun of one of these women. As in:

    rrriiiggghhhttt...
    "we want fair rights and stop being treated like a sex object so we`re going to pole dance." the sense just falls into place =/

    Hrmmm that.

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    twincam88 Male 30-39
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    August 11, 2007 at 12:32 pm
    lol her shirt said, "got pole?"
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    TabooPoison Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 12:55 pm
    Is there anyone in this country who understands what feminism is? It has nothing to do with pole dancing OR being a hairy lesbian.
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    Aramil Male 18-29
    315 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 1:15 pm
    "Feminism is usually less about obtaining equality with men and more about simply hating them..."
    I concur. I`m for equal rights between both sexes. That`s more than any feminist can say.
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    hehehenerd Male 13-17
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    August 11, 2007 at 2:21 pm
    To afraid parents are gona walk in
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    larajunky Female 40-49
    1832 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 2:42 pm
    Feminism = Pole Dancing = stupid c*nt.

    I am not a feminist but come on lady, wtf?????????

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    Itsdude56 Male 13-17
    889 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 2:59 pm
    lmoa...
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    Yoeri Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 3:01 pm
    Colbert is GOD!
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    DrFeelGood10 Male 18-29
    290 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:07 pm
    wow, thats the best form of feminism EVEEERRR!!! :)
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    Salmakia Female 13-17
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    August 11, 2007 at 3:20 pm
    PJF1313 Male, 40-49, Midwest US
    Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:24:08 AM
    Im sending my wife and my girlfriend to see her!
    _________________________________________________
    Your wife AND your girlfriend? hmmm, and why would you even speak of sending them to the same place?

    okay, and about this video, they are all like, oh yeah my husband probly enjoys this...husband boyfriend...BLAHDE BLAH, but isnt the whole point so women can do something that makes them feel sexy and empowered without having to do it infront of a man? God, these people are kind of idiots..

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    misscutieroo Female 18-29
    1944 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:29 pm
    *sigh* only in america
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    spongamabob Female 18-29
    2087 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 3:41 pm
    lol. i would actually like to learn how to poledance one day. it looks like a super workout and looks like alot of fun. being able to show my boyfriend would only be one of the perks.
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    Stentorian Male 13-17
    426 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 4:05 pm
    Ugh. The world is not a place of equality, accept it, move on, and make what you can of what you have. No one is free of the hardships of inequality, get over yourselves.

    By the way, I`m not just referring to women here, I mean everyone who lingers and cries about the fact that they are singled out and treated worse than others. "I`m poor because I`m this", "I can`t do this because I`m this", "They have that because they are this". Boohoo. Today everyone has the opportunity to be and do what they desire. Yes, some must overcome more to do so but those that accomplish this same goal with greater ease will have more to overcome in reaching some other aspiration.

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    Ani187 Female 30-39
    4448 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 5:14 pm
    Pole dancing is a great full body workout, I`d do it just for that.
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    Alanda Female 18-29
    295 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 5:29 pm
    women aren`t going to get respect by degrading themselves and acting like sluts.....they`re just going to get the men that make $1 for their $.77 gawk at them more.....
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    Ilbeltz Male 18-29
    108 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 5:52 pm
    Hell yeah feminism! I`ve never gotten behind this movement before but this video changed my mind. Definately, more chicks need to go topless. It`s invigorating and very empowering. Also, I would like to encourage spontaneous lap dancing. I think it`s empowering to women as well as letting them get in touch with their sensual being. Kick ass!
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    muckseen Female 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 6:28 pm
    That`s why my motto is "Never trust a feminist with a french manicure"
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    sertrbl Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 6:44 pm
    "Suppose it depends on what you do with it. I think your intent may be different if you`re doing it in a club for men, as opposed to doing it for your own interest or fitness at home. >.> Obviously an aspect not covered. `nough said on my end."
    youre completely right. pole dancing for horny men to pay you is stupid, but there is nothing wrong with putting on a show for your husband, or for exercise.

    "As an African-American woman I look for equality among race and GENDER."
    then why in world did you just single out someone for being WHITE AND MALE? you fail.

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    veryhardgame Male 18-29
    40 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 8:25 pm
    LMAO at "Got Pole?"
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    Schooler90 Male 18-29
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    August 11, 2007 at 8:58 pm
    i like this type of politics
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 11, 2007 at 10:51 pm
    patriotpappy
    Male, 50-59, Southern US
    497 Posts Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:27:31 AM
    lostinkorea - "As an African-American woman I look for equality among race and GENDER."
    What does it matter if you`re African American or something else? Why can`t you simply state, "As an American woman...".
    Why must you single yourself out as African-American? By doing that, you are calling yourself out as different, which goes completely against your statement of "...look(ing) for equality among race and gender."

    As long as you qualify yourself as "African-American", you will never find equality in race. Using that term by default establishes your racial difference.

    No it doesn`t, I am proud of who I am. So I have to forget in order to get ahead. That`s illogical thinking. Can`t hide what I am....

    And SERTRBL, I just pointed out that fact just to show him how could he possibly know what feminism really is about. How is femenism about me

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    kmuggee Female 13-17
    681 posts
    August 11, 2007 at 10:53 pm
    oh my loorrddd
    haha the pregnant lady.. ahahahahahha GREAT example for the baby to come!

    but, hey pole dancing is just basically another excercise

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    FrostDragon Female 13-17
    63 posts
    August 12, 2007 at 1:33 am
    if ur a feminist, then y r u pole dancing?! wtf is wrong with these ppl
  48. Profile photo of Jayper
    Jayper Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 5:44 am
    YES!
  49. Profile photo of Declan191919
    Declan191919 Male 13-17
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    August 12, 2007 at 5:56 am
    Woman should just learn there place and do as they are told.
  50. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 7:11 am
    Please!!!
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 7:12 am
    Lost in Korea (and quite likely a variety of other places), you didn`t answer Sertrbl`s question (or the essence of it, at least); how would his being WHITE provide any indication of his inherent level of feminist understanding? Funny, if we WERE going to generalize along racial lines, I wouldn`t so much mind if your implications even APPROACHED statistical truth, but the fact is even if we WERE free to communicate on that level (which as a white citizen, I must say I feel conspicuously NOT welcome), your assumption of how race plays into feminist understanding is not only wrong, but totally ass-backwards! Who were the founders of feminist-movements in America? White women on the whole, though whatever movement they founded has become quite far-removed from whatever pathetic excuse for `liberation` modern feminism seems to preach today. So there goes your WHITE aspect of the equation.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 7:12 am
    As for being male? Well, I have to ask, where is the feminist OUTRAGE over lyrics from 50-cent, Dogg-pound, Ol’ Dirty Bastard, and almost every other archetypical gangsta-rapper “representin’” the male BLACK community’s outlook on the prospect of equal-rights for women, and the possible perception by men of them as ANYTHING more than a trophy or sex-object? Not to mention the roughly 80% illegitimacy rate among black children being born today (and by that, I mean without the presence of a father), or is that an expression of modern feminism`s new version of `liberation?` Wouldn`t have put it past the ironic platform from which you claim to approach gender-issues in having twisted this ABRASIVELY-OBVIOUS epidemic into some kind of nobly-regarded state which merely serves as an excuse for these people to go on behaving exactly as they have been.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 7:15 am
    Almost as if the latter is to avoid any confrontation with the `black community` via criticism of their self-destructive habits, which would quite likely turn into a flame-war over who`s been racist first by those blacks who feel they can use their ethnicity as a shield against the advent of personal responsibility; an advent, I might remind, which remains COMPULSORY to those who condescend to them in such a sycophantic way. All in all, it seems quite the double-standard to me, which by your racial remark, indicates that you are undoubtedly barking-up the wrong tree.
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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
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    August 12, 2007 at 10:35 am
    lostinkorea - "As an African-American woman I look for equality among race and GENDER."

    No, you`re not. If you were, you would not have played the "proud" card in your last post. which I knew you would do (that was predictable). You would have simply said,

    "As a human being, I look for equality among race and GENDER."

    You don`t have to be a woman, an American, or an African American to seek equality. By holding on to YOUR prejudices while hiding behind the "I`m black and proud" card, you are defeating the very thing you claim to seek.

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    LKJSlain Female 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 5:32 pm
    I am a FEMALE anti feminist... enough said...
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    NOFX14 Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2007 at 6:19 pm
    lmao love the report. i love when the guy is like " when i think of feminists i think of....hairy...butch.....lesbians!" haha and no way pole dancing is not sexual in anyway, and it certainly does not entertain guys at all!! hahaha....
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    luvinangel03 Female 18-29
    74 posts
    August 13, 2007 at 12:24 am
    I don`t see how this links to feminism. But after reading a few comments, Feminists are not male hating lesbians- it`s a stereotype. Most feminists in fact are heterosexual- and it`s those that think feminists are male hating people are the reason why feminism and their beliefs are still alive today.
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    luvinangel03 Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2007 at 12:31 am
    Those who are lesbian feminists don`t hate men, it`s the patriarchal government that we live in. Women are paid less than men, they do not have the same rights, freedom of speech although constitutionally they do--- it wasn`t until the 19th amendment women could vote; even after the right to vote women could not wear pants, etc. There is much more to feminism than the stereotype that the world put out there- do some research, know what feminism is before saying stupid $h!t
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    luvinangel03 Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2007 at 12:36 am
    sexism, racism, ageism--- it`s all stereotypes that we are taught, and in the end, they`re all the same. All "isms" should be deleted from our vocabulary.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 13, 2007 at 1:43 am
    Suicism....whitw women were the founders of the feminist movement? You have to prove that one to me! I don`t know what book you`re reading. I totally agree with your statement regarding rappers and degregation toward women. I am unsure as to why you haven`t heard feminist speak against them and all the other music genres that bash women. It`s not JUST black music. And who say`s I agree with that type of music? I don`t have that type of music in my house and when I have kids they won`t be listening to that crap either. Also, how did absent black father`s come into this conversation? So by your logic white men don`t leave their families? Maybe not...maybe they are too busy cutting them up and storing them into tupperware dishes. Yea, sounds pretty stupid eh! So do you mi amigo! And by the way, you can put your thesaurus down. Just because you use bigger words doesn`t mean you sound smarter.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 13, 2007 at 1:50 am
    As for patriotpappy: What do you mean by "playing" the proud card? So, I have to be ashamed and forget who I am in order to you and your people. GIVE ME A BREAK! I am not prejudice. I was raised to be prejudice but I know better. I know that there are ignorant non-nice individuals in every color,creed, sex and nationality. So for you confederate pappy, I AM PROUD TO BE A WOMAN AND I AM PROUD TO BE BLACK. There isn`t anything or anyone, whom I would trade places with. And for the future, if you have nothing constructive to say then don`t respond to my post. Mind your own damn business. As for suicism, I am open to your debate. You definitely thought out your argument and I am always open to those types of comments. Thanks
  62. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2007 at 4:13 am
    Unlike some people, I don`t usually need a thesaurus...

    Alright, when it comes to my rant regarding the origins of the feminist movement, I was largely referring to figures such as Florence Nightingale, Susan B. Anthony, Sarah Emily Davies, Elizabeth Garret, as well as a host of others; though, it could be argued, this majority-involvement by white women in the school of thought at hand could be attributed to their simple superiority in numbers wherein the fight for women`s rights was most readily being fought (i.e., statistically/culturally white countries yet again ), and though of course participants such as Sojourner Truth and (arguably) Harriet Tubman played their pivotal roles (perhaps proportionately to the white population ), what should have been made clear by now is that this young man`s (AKappy) race makes absolutely NO inherent statement about the degree of feminist understanding which should be expected of him.

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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2007 at 4:14 am
    Though, I have to confess, my intent was not to ostensibly demonstrate that white women were the exclusive founders of the feminist movement, but rather played such a pivotal role as to render your implied prejudices about the above-mentioned young man`s extent of `social awareness` based on your racial analysis of him questionable, if not entirely moot; sorry if it came off the wrong way (as I`d like to think your intent did entirely, as well).

    Anyway, about these rumors of feminist outrage at black gang-oriented regurgitations? Fabulous. I am thrilled at the very prospect. I guess the media just doesn`t report on it enough, which I took as a sign that these groups weren`t making enough noise about it (lord knows the feminists came out of hiding when one of their own was anonymously attacked as being `nappy-headed hoes!`), but if what you are saying about these expressions of outrage in THAT direction also involves their having any influence whatsoever, then I am enthused!

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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2007 at 4:35 am
    What makes it difficult is that so many of these groups/movements are all lumped together under the common umbrella of `liberalism.` And this umbrella of modern liberalism encompasses a great many ideologies, all of which seem to be competing for dominance at the very best or, at worst, undeniably at odds not only with eachother`s principles, but the ingrained interests upon which they are historically based! Ring twice for examples.
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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
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    August 13, 2007 at 6:23 pm
    Dearest lostinkorea,

    Appears I`ve hit a nerve. Sorry you feel you must revert to name-calling (i.e. "confederate pappy"). You can be black, and you can be proud... for that matter I don`t care if you are blue, green, or orange. I simply don`t understand the need for you to callout, signify, or (dare I say) "separate" your race by refering to yourself as African-American.

    I hope you and suicism enjoy your discussion.

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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    August 14, 2007 at 2:51 am
    Ring...ring...
  67. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2007 at 6:23 am
    Well, for one instance, you`ve got the professed support for Illegal Immigration, ranging everywhere from simple ass-kissing to full-fledged amnesty, civil rights & privileges, and social services which exceed even the benefits of citizens! Not to mention the `doing the jobs WE won`t do` tagline (which is basically an instance of punishing the victim, I can explain in another submission if you wish); THEN, on the other hand, you have supposed historical support for EVERY form of organized-labor (and almost any demand they might make, especially if they`re a public union), including those which are being damaged by the campaign being espoused by the other side of the Donkey`s mouth! Basically, since the hiring of illegal-immigrants (who are not obligated to follow minimum-wage laws) constitutes a form of domestic outsourcing, the Party has no ground to stand on when it comes to paying lip-service to these labor-unions by criticizing OTHER forms of outsourcing
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2007 at 6:23 am
    (not to mention those which actually BENEFIT America economically)!

    In another instance, you`ve got the professed historical support for Women`s Rights issues, while at the same time (apparently) unconditional support for the maneuvers of the black community, whether they be in favor of traditional liberal values or not (most of the time, I find more instance of the latter)! This involves the material upon which I based my secondary rant, that of drawing black illegitimacy rates into the question. You never see (in America, at least) white liberals attacking the irresponsible virility of the black community at large, though you may sometimes see examples of individual black outrage (though let us not deceive the breadth of this disdain by use of the term `individual`) at regular patterns of behavior within the black-community, such as public tirades by the likes of Bill Cosby, Larry Elder, and Thomas Sowell.

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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2007 at 6:24 am
    Instead of CONSIDERING these arguments, or even a percentage of the very poignant points which compose them, the most vocal liberal spokespersons of the `black community` instead deride the deliverers of these messages as `Uncle Toms`, and even `Racists,` in the process refusing to consider the redeeming factor that publicly taking heed to these criticisms might have on the black-community at-large; instead, defaulting upon a reception which will result inevitably in the encouragement of their self-appointed constituents to go on behaving exactly as they are, for this procures them the most future adherents - call it the path of least resistance, the sum of our American common-denominator, or the self-fulfilled constituency of a Tyrannical Majority;
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    August 16, 2007 at 6:24 am
    but we all know at the end of the day how eager any one of these `advocates` are to speak-out in DEFENSE against any actions one of their tribe has committed in the face of property rights and basic Humanitarianism, such as O.J. Simpson, Rodney King, and even Barry Bonds (though that had more to do with steroids, it is still an issue of Humanitarianism through the issue of `level plaing-field` , which is ironically what the original civil-rights for negroes movement was all about); we also know, at the end of the day, how equally eager these so-called `spokespeople` are to pipe-up at the first sign of constructive criticism at the hands of a white person, as the most convenient means of circumventing the implications of a message is to demonize its messenger.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2007 at 6:29 am
    In another, more insidious discrepancy, I see the opposition to the death-penalty with concurrent blind acceptance of abortion-rights as a substantial contradiction. It`s almost as if, while claiming to value every single life (so as to get more votes), they waive the most INNOCENT (and thus, politically-ineffectual) constituency which could possibly be conceived - that of the life of an up-and-coming child! This hints to me that politicians of this persuasion don`t REALLY believe in a consistent system of justice, just that which will falsely rally all the segmented congregations of `oppressed` populations, and deal with any discrepancies which may subsequently come to light through political fancy-footwork and public declarations of amnesia.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    August 16, 2007 at 6:29 am
    God-bless America!
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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
    756 posts
    August 16, 2007 at 9:30 pm
    ^^^Yeah... what he said^^^

    and God Bless America!

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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    August 17, 2007 at 6:23 am
    Thank you sir!
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    patriotpappy Male 50-59
    756 posts
    August 17, 2007 at 7:49 am
    No... Thank You! I never realized the opposite polarity conveyed by those opposed to the death penalty, yet support abortion. So true, yet so inconsistent in their reasoning.
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    Slade8 Male 18-29
    952 posts
    August 21, 2007 at 6:06 pm
    Funny.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    August 23, 2007 at 11:09 pm
    Wow, her account has been closed; and I was just beginning to anticipate her long-awaited response!

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