Chernobyl Revisited 20 Years Later

Submitted by: Snoogans 9 years ago in

The downside of nuclear energy.
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Male 604
Nuclear energy is clean and efficient and a lot safer than you think. much of the rest of the world has adopted it, certainly at a higher rate than the states.

Your children will not know what glaciers are, it will be too unsafe for us in the near future to actually go to the beach like we used to, let alone your childrem, if you continue to use coal and oil.

Solar is expensive as hell and wind is horribly inefficient (and thus also expensive). Although both are far more suitable than coal and oil.

Nuclear is the future. The rest of the industrialized word is there. We`re waiting on you, america.

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Male 1,853
makes me think of Call of Duty 4......
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Male 4
yeah, double post, but i don`t care.

Anyway, to dredge up and burn all the coal and natural gas in a conventional plant will still create more pollution and problems then people claim nuclear power will. It doesn`t use up any more concreat and other nonsense then any other project, and spent fuel is now sent to places like they Yucca Mountain facility, or are stored on site. Newer nuclear fuels with longer half lives are being used. This means that it dies slower (requiring less fuel, and therefore produces less waste). a long half life also means that LESS raditation is given off. while it may take a thousand years to die, you would need to stand there for a hundreds of years for it to hurt you.

Micro-generation is a failed concept, however. it is not possible for each structure to make its own power. a mini solar panel on a house, even with a windmill, could never create the elctricity you need to run your home, it could only supplment it. Its also no good for citys.

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Male 4
Unfortuneately, the nuclear power debate is dominated by ignorance of nuclear power, and this report is no different. as has been said repeatedly, it was a man ,ade incident. people pushed the wrong buttons, and the reactor itself was poorly constructed. Equivalent western reactors were far safer. Chernobyl could never happen in a modern nuclear reactor. The deaths and sicknesses are also greatly exagerated. Only 50 people have died from chernyobyl(mostly the workers), and the thousands of deaths (which were predicted from the start) have never happened.
That said, Nuclear reactors produce only steam and a small amount of nuclear waste, making them eco-friendly. A nuclear plant takes up a small amount of space as well. You would need to devastate THOUSANDS of miles worth of land to install windmills and solar pannels to equal the power of the average coal/nuclear plant, which may only take up a square mile on average. On this land, a nuclear plant can create more power than co
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Female 217
We had to do Chernobyl for a Science project. Even just reading about it online was really upsetting. It was quite hard doing the project.

Things are slowly progressing, but still..

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Male 175
And then the world realized that there were Candu reactors. And by it`s very design prevents the possibility of a meltdown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candu
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Female 943
chernobyl is sad. |-(
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Female 22
so the children of staff from nuclear power plants in first world super powers such as the UK (see my first post here) deserve a #?!!# too?
And believe me - having an opinion contrary to ones own does not make someone an idiot! It makes that person someone capable of independant thought and research. However merely dismissing another person`s opinion simply because it contradicts your own is much more "idiotic". There are many other forms of alternative energy available now and in stages of research. But I guess they`re all idiots too, huh?
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Male 1,399
Anyone against nuclear power is an idiot, and has no idea what they`re talking about.

Chernobyl was not only a poor reactor design, but was not contained! It`s similar to saying guns are bad because you shot yourself in the foot. If that means nothing to you, please see my first sentence and move on.

#?!!# Chernobyl, and %###!! the Soviets. Those idiots set the human race back decades with their ignorance and lack of common sense.

Too bad the modern environmentalist morons can`t see that nuclear power is the quickest way to ease our dependence on oil.

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Male 2,372
I think massive radiation exposure sux!
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Female 12
those guys who volunteered to do work on the orphanage in their free time and at their own expence deserve medals.
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Female 23
Nuclear is being touted as a `green` response to the problems of fossil fuels. regardless of how safe it is, however, it certainly is not green. The reactors are made of huge amounts of concrete, the fuel needs to be shipped from the Baltics and the waste is almost impossible to dispose of.

Nuclear will not tackle climate change but it will create new problems; therefore it shouldnot be considered as an option.

So what is the answer? Micro generation. Imagine if every home had its own solar panel and wind turbine. Imagine if every river and stream had waterwheels. Large scale central power production is a thing of the past. It does nto work for renewables and so renewables are discredited as no good. But with microgeneration more than enough power could be produced to keep the country happy, greenly and safely.

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Female 53
Cherynobyl exploded because they performed an unauthorized experiment. And it became such a problem because the people in charge ignored it and tried to cover it up.
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Male 357
besides many unqualified and uninformed comments here on i-a-b i feel totally ashamed of being a human when seeing what we as people have done to those children. yes i believe that we all have responibility to bahve right and we all have to look at those and other things that went wrong in the world and be ashamed for ourselfs. how could we ever step up to any god you like to believe in and not feel awful for letting all this mess happen to our planet and to ourselfs. humans are disgusting creatures
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Male 1,254
Nuclear energy will bring so many more opportunities to mankind. When fission was first discovered many scientists believed it would heavily be the majority power source in the world.

We pump up nuclear we can produce hydrogen easier, make safe, clean, and effiecent energy, and plenty of other benefits I really don`t feel like listing.

I`m looking forward to the day we can create a fusion reactor. So much energy...

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Female 370
"What happens when it`s cloudy, not windy and the waves aren`t coming in?"

You douche... only one day of sunshine can charge something for a full year. Look it up.

You guys should watch the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car".

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Male 472
how did japan manage though the towns that got nuclear bombed on?

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Male 557
okay, shouldn`t they be wearing Hazmat suits while in the control room? i mean, it seems like that make sense
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Male 557
oops, its 2:46, not 2:36, sorry
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Male 557
um... yeah, stop the video 2:36 from the end, where it shows a pitcture of the reator or something, does anyone else see faces?
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Male 1,404
First, Richard Carleton was a great man with uncompromisable ethics, R.I.P.

The key to the next 100 years is utilizing what is called spent fuel from outdated nuclear power generators to the "wast" being further utilized in yet unbuilt reactors that can further process the spent fuel into usable energy before entombing it in places such as Yucca Mountain N.V.

Just a request! If anyone has access to the satalight imagery taken over the course of the melt-down, post it.

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Male 63
In America they aren`t even spitballing the idea of nuclear energy because of the China syndrome. (Google it, I don`t care.)
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Male 3,431
There is no damn way I`d be going anywhere near that structure. No Way.
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Male 3,369
WThe problem with Nuclear energy is it is so dangerous if something does go wrong. So many people will be affected. Dont forget, fallout from Chernobyl covered the whole northen heymisphere.

Whilst I`m not dusputing that its a proven, cheap and efficient power source it is also the most dangerous.

I`d say, before we fallback on Nuclear energy, start on the wind, hydro and solar plants. Whilst it may not be enough I`d rather have 10 hydro plants, 50 wind farms etc + 1 Nuclear plant powering my county, rather than 4 nuclear plants. Logically it IS foolish to stick all eggs in one basket...and in this day and age..it`s simply not worth the risk or the hazzerdous waste they produce.

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Female 338
You know ironically, lobbyists who are anti-nuclear power actually make it more likely that a nuclear accident will happen. In the US, it`s very hard for new nuclear power stations to be built, so most of the ones that are operating are using equipment from the 70s and 80s, as opposed to newer, more modern equipment/safety features.
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Male 62
I believe that nuclear energy is the future sure accidents happen but overall nuclear energy as an amazing track record with only 2 really big meltdowns Chernobyl and Three mile island Chernobyl was by far the worst one but it was the fulls who were under trained and it was a skeleton crew that night it happened. The U.S already is building a place called YUCCA mountain where there gonna stick all the nuclear waste products. also todays reactors are state of the art they`ve been tried and the crews are well trained. The scary thing though is that no new reactors have been built in the us since 1950`s i believe and those reactors are old and are at a much greater risk. the modern control rooms are cased in i believe in lead to stop the radiation from seeping through but overall Nuclear power has a great safety record only 2 major accidents is good compared to all the oil fires and other accidents in other spectrum`s of the field.
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Female 2,244
That was crazy stuff
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Male 12,138
Well said, Xeroshade, couldn`t agree more. F*ck `em. Empathy is so 20th Century, get over it.

You`re a wanker (1st Class).

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Male 78
I dont mean to be an ass, but why do you all care so much about the children... You arent them, you dont know them, and there just another life out of the trillions on earth. Including you. Theres no point in grieving over some children who got messed up.
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Male 194
Ugh
Nuclear power isnt safe in the hands of stupid people.
I say we use normal poo until we can get people smart enough to run it. At least the guy stuck to his post and tried to fix it.
Shows he cares about more than himself.
Unlike some people.
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Female 165
I enjoyed that. It was certaintly facinating, and very well put together. Quite sad.
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Female 22
If nuclear power is so safe even in well run countries such as the UK, why are there statistics showing that children of Sellafield (UK nuclear power plant) workers have an average 15 times higher risk of developing leukaemia and non--Hodgkins lymphoma??
Times like this I am so grateful that Ireland has a ban on nuclear power. Whether it`s to do with inept staff or not, if that had been a carbon fuel power plant explosion there would not have been such devastation or so many deaths. Solar power is not affected by clouds btw - the solar panels just need daylight! Wave action is daily repetitive irrespective of weather, so that`s something to look into. Hopefully governments worldwide will stop pandering to oil companies and look at alternatives and actually bring green energy in!
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Female 122
Pro things to nuclear power:
It`s not a nonrenewable resource.
It`s overall (excluding somethings. cough cough.)
It`s efficent.
Con things to nuclear power:
Radioactive waste
Chernobyl where some people screwed up real bad and ruined some lives.

hmmmm which one...

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Male 317
i was reading up on wikipedia, and found out that Russia decided in April 2007 to build a floating nuclear power station! Are they crazy??
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Female 99
I cried when I saw the children. I want to know the name of the orphanage, so I can send toys and picture books and such.
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Male 612
if they were to build a better reactor that never would of happend american reactors are so much better
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Female 1,492
where the hell is his mask? i mean...if it`s so radioactive...where is his mask that will help him live or you know what i`m saying
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Male 2,486
"It`s so idiotic to use nuclear power, in a time where science shines. Solar-, wave- and windpower is something we`ve toyed with since the 1940-50s. "

What happens when it`s cloudy, not windy and the waves aren`t coming in?

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Male 888
wow..tahts sad stuff...
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Female 2,552
"The downside of nuclear energy."
Oh, really? There are DOWNSIDES of NUCLEAR energy? Well, you learn something new everyday!
/sarcasm
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Male 8
my brother has a big head. but he was born in detroit
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Female 264
It`s devistating isn`t it.
The bit with the children was so sad. Them Irish people are true heroes. So selfless.

Also, the bit with that old lady made me sad, when she was kissing her husbands grave, and although he didn`t die because of this, she risks her life to go and visit where he`s buried.

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Male 2,216
That guy`s Australian, not English.
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Male 534
tgirl, it`s a thin little disposable mask. I doubt leaving it on would perma-guard him from blasts of radiation.
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Female 257
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My brother was born 7th January 1988, and the accident happened on April 26 1986, so about 1 and a half years later. It`s very unlikely that he is like that because of the disaster, but I`d still like to look into this thing a bit more, because I know so little.

If anyone has any thoughts about this, knows better or has any videos/sites that would help me find out more about this, please post!

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Female 257
Maybe it`s just me, but I still find some Cold War mentality in that American document...

The part about the children was very interesting for me. Not sure if I-A-B is the best site to post this but anyway, haha..

My brother is mentally retarded. My sister and I (I`m 2 yrs younger than him) are perfectly normal,luckily. There was some striking similarity with my brother, like the crossed eyes and the rocking back and forwards, and just the way a couple of them watched the camera.

My parents lived in south of Finland, I watched a documentary earlier and it said that just a little bit radiation might have flown all the way to Finland.

Apparently there was some problem when the cells were dividing, but he doesn`t have a clear diagnose.. His diagnose is that he`s autistic, but he is quite unlike "normal" autistics, and apparently the nature of his illness is quite unique so it doesn`t really have an own name. I know very little about different mental retardations, though.

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Female 158
I also agree with nuclear power but only as a last resort if wind, solar and things like that don`t provide enough energy. Like PuterBoy said, power plants are better run nowadays and their staff are actually trained.
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Female 158
I always thought it was an accident. I feel sorry for those kids, but what can they do to help them? Ukraine isn`t exactly a rich country. Why did the reporter take his mask off in the control room if there is radioactive dust floating around?
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Male 52
Nuclear power is the most practical method of making energy. Chernobyl was a really crappy power plant that was terribly run. Todays reactor core are foolproof. They have multiple Safety procedures to the point where it is redundant. Some cores are impossible to have a meltdown.

So before any of you whine "omgitsnuclearpowerzdangerouz!!?!!!1" look at the facts.

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Female 267
Meh...got bored after 20 seconds. But there is this weird chick I know who thinks everyone is going to die in 10 years because of global warming.
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Male 382
Sutefupuni: No, nothing soft about that. I cried as well - the horror of that poor dying boy. Heartbreaking.

It`s so idiotic to use nuclear power, in a time where science shines. Solar-, wave- and windpower is something we`ve toyed with since the 1940-50s.

Funnily enough, every time someone perfects it, the patent is bough and shelved. I wonder who would gain from dustballing such things?
Hm.

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Female 525
he was dumb for taking off his breathing mask at the FRIGGEN SITE where it all happened...i think thats what killed him...and as for the post, nuclear stuff scares the poo outta me im so glad i dont live even 10000 kilometers from there
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Female 145
I think that irish woman is a hero
and I am sad to find out that reporter is dead,but I don`t think radiation really contributed to his death as he had a heart bypass in 1988 and died of a heart attack although he was also diagnosed with prostate cancer
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Male 667
"Hey guys! Wanna fck around with the power level and see wut happens?" "Sure~" ::BEEP BEEP NUCEAR MELTDOWN DETECTED:: "Oopsies~ :)"
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Female 432


A baby affected by the radiation of Chernobyl. His brain is hanging outside his skull.
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Female 579
I think my parents got married that day ...

Chernobyl is sad.

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Male 31
Richard Carleton is the reporter for this story who unfortunatly died 1 month after his visit to chernobyl whilst reporting on the tradgedy at the beaconsfield mine site in tasmania http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/sto... ``Just last month he was in Chernobyl reporting there and risking his health as he has done so much,`
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Male 97
it`s almost like a fairytale..any terrorists wanna start growing apples` poo there and sell it to the world?
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Male 453
wow heavy stuff. i loved the way that after the contamination the russians just sent people in as quickly as they could before the rest of the world could focus their cameras in on this mess
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Male 2,486
Radiation actually tastes pretty good. I eat it for breakfast every morning.
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Male 146
Nuclear Power is the future. Lessons have to be leaarnt from Chenobyl though, and it would appear they have been as no accidents since then.
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Female 15
Anyone who still thinks highly of nuclear energy has obviously not taken the time to watch that whole thing.
And am I just a softy or did anyone else cry when they saw those dying children all alone?
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Female 1,264
at 8:06 theres a grave with the channel nine logo on it. wtf?
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Male 810
"Here Mr. Englishman-Reporter... no, don`t touch those apples, they`ll be able to harm people for 1000 years... oh, they smell nice? Yes.. that`s.. an effect from the radon... radon smells nice."
"The reactor? Oh yes, it`s completely safe.. take off your safe suit, and just walk around the place.. you won`t get harmed at all. Just make sure to put your little suit on when you get close to the actual disaster zone, alrighty?"
"yes, thank you, I know here in Russia we take the safety of western journalists very seriously. Have a nice trip!"
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Female 690
I like solar power better than nuclear power.
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Female 1,264
WOOT AUSTRALIA....
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Male 78
i dont understand why reporters risk there lives and health to get stories like that.
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Male 334
he shouldnt have taken off his mask when he was in the control room or whatever it was
i wonder how long is he going to live for now that he was in there...
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Male 157
that was sad
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Female 447
I saw this when in was first aired in Australia. Very eerie.
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Male 2,586
Wonder how long the presenter is going to live now...
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Male 151
a city frozen in time
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Male 4,012
It`s saddening to see those children... abandoned and (almost) forgotten.

But yeah, as xboxman said, the disaster was man-made, not accidental.

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Male 17
it was the employees completely ignoring safety guidelines, i did a school project on the event. BTW: it sound nothing like the guy from top gear.
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Male 170
Very nice. I wish more stuff like this would be posted.

Reminds me very much of http://elenafilatova.com

which has some nice videos and pictures about the disaster.

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Male 380
This isnt the downside of nuclear energy.

This is the downside of trying to save a couple bucks by ignoring saftey regulations.

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Male 151
btw it reminds me of s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
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Female 1,596
Looks like the movie "The Hills Have Eyes".
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Male 331
he sounds just like the guy from Top-Gear...
If he is, leave me alone. I`m not from Europe.
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Female 1,397
aw come on that was YEARS ago and hey...x-ray vision is cool.
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Male 4,012
It`s been 20 years and I don`t think there`s any X-men worthy mutants yet. So i`m not putting my hopes high.

There are safer energy alternatives out there.

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Male 129
Nuclear energy=safer than coal
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Male 151
a city frozen in time
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Male 741
I`m with nuclear energy.

Nuclear energy=super powers

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Male 869
Link: Chernobyl Revisited 20 Years Later [Rate Link] - The downside of nuclear energy.
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