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"Speaking of conceiving. Was the idea I came up with just a blob during it`s earliest stages?"
Your thoughts are not blobs of cells, no. But they DO start off as only a hint of thought which, after pondering the issue, will turn into a fully developed opinion.
First off, my whole point was that you`re not acting very christianly for calling me a slut just because I`m pro-choice. I already said that I wish women would use bc in the first place and NOT get pregnant.Just because I am pro-choice doesn`t automatically make me a slut as you so joyfully accused me of.Aren`t christians supposed to be nice to people?Second, wtf does the commandment have to do with anything? I follow ammendments, not commandments.
"As for souls; they`re an entity of life. Everything, even synthetic things, have a soul."
You have absolutely no proof for this. I don`t have proof to say otherwise, though.This makes our OPINONS on what has a soul different. You can believe what you want, but, and, here is the important part, I BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY.
yah i wish there was a way they could put the names of teh people who considered abortions..hmm...i bet your parents would be on the list...your such an as* hole. what if thsoe peopel ahd abortions cuz they ahd a medical illness in which if they ahd the baby the baby would die. or if the girl was raped? u think she should have to go through 9months of pain and misery u think she should be punished? your such an as* hole. and idiot. typical man comment though, maybe if tehy didnt think with their dick 24/7 there wouldnt eb as many abortions.
First off, I`m NOT Jesus Christ.Second off, Commandment II: "Thou shalt not take thy Lord`s name in vain".Third off, I`m Catholic. I have been educated in religion in a different way, and my kind are not projected as a bunch of perverted zealots and fanatics (Though, we`re still pissed off that we`re still targets to the media and those of no faith in what may be poissible, regardless the chances.). Plus, IAB doesn`t have Catholic as an option for religious belief. I guess I`d rather wear a shirt with "kick me" written on the back.
As for souls; they`re an entity of life. Everything, even synthetic things, have a soul. for existance to happen, a spirit od any sort must possess it, otherwise the cell structure wouldn`t bond. Sounds like anime technobabble, but it`s the most plausible theory I can concieve right now.
There IS no proof- you can`t say when a fetus gains a soul... you CLAIM that it`s when the egg and sperm meet- but I don`t think so.You have no evidence supporting your opinions, either. And that`s what they are- opinions.You just don`t want to accept them.
Wow, is that what Jesus would say?I`ve only been with one man- my bf, my only love. If we got pregnant before we were ready, I might abort it.You need to take that stick out of your christian ass.
My answer: I wouldn`t. If Heaven has that as a requirement, then that in turn is not Heaven, but instead Hell. Hell, is a tricky place full of traps and mental tasks that could befuddle even the smartest and wisest of people. Plus, it`s exothermic by thermodynamic law; but that has nothing to do with the subject.
That, is just a mere-mortal class riddle. C`mon, give me a real challenge. I mean, something that isn`t so blatantly obvious. I mean, the worst demons are those that masquerade as both humans and angels. I may be an idiot, but I`m not stupid. I can easily tell the difference like a 6th sense (or one of my many extra senses).
I need not answer.
Atheists do have morals, a different set, But morals are morals, and we can also have fun. It`s better to die fearless than live withfear.
For example, Athiests allow an emryoof 40 cells is being used to save the life ofmany cancer.
And you act like some kind of messiah, giving advice on what women shall do, and advising meto read the c r a pas h i tism, but you are nothing more then a monkey like all of us. A monkey whoTHINKS he is better than everyone because heTHINKS he has the esteem of someone heTHINKS exists.
Your fight sounds like a way of backing up slutty behavior much like an adlolescant. Your husbands must be proud. Adios.
"I made no error in speaking. A blob is a blob to me. It might be transforming into a baby, but I don`t think it IS one when it it`s so underdeveloped that it can`t even survive outside of a human host."
Um... Isn`t that why the woman is the host? To nurture and protect the blobbie child until it develops it`s skin, immunities, and whatnot, so it can become a standalone being?
Study viruses; that`s how you`re describing a mere child. To me, thanks to yours, and many like yours beliefs; the human race, as a whole, are nothing but a pestilence; like a bunch of locusts on this planet. I can care less if I curse my own death with that. Hell`s prettier than this hell-hole of a planet anyday.
I made no error in speaking. A blob is a blob to me. It might be transforming into a baby, but I don`t think it IS one when it it`s so underdeveloped that it can`t even survive outside of a human host.
Thanks Cindy for at least trying to talk sense into these numbnuts. And verin; I`m straight BTW. I`m not an Oprah-zealot, according to how that sounded.
As for the blob theory; an amoeba is a blob; a single-celled blob; as is a paramecium. A fully functional complex organism, however, is a being of sorts. Or, in a sense, a creature.
I`ll cease my talking, seeing as noone gives a damn about a little something called a Code of Law; (Athiests don`t give a damn about anything, for they have no god. How does one damn then? There`s no damn way one can damn a damn thing, unless one truly can hold authority to give a damn thing about a damn thing.)
I never lost. I though, will simply decline. This is a waste of my time. At least I enjoyed taking others down with me.
..|.. (^_^) ..|..
Look Cindy if you think abortion is wrong admit, you can say it, and as long as you respect our beliefs, (unlike SOMEONE we know) we`ll respectyours.
Yes, I can. Look at that blob!
Who said I was trying to behead you? We have different ideals, and I don`t care if YOU don`t like abortion.
"I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when the Day of Judgement comes. I`m just a law officer of God. I enforce the Law."
If you want to mistake yourself for really being this saint like "officer of God" go ahead.But as a non-christian, your threats of "judgment day" don`t scare me.And "the Law" is NOT whatever the bible says for me. Sorry.
This blob of cells has a brain, nerves, internal organs, including a beating heart, and bones are forming (see the ribs). It`s not a useless blob. It`s a functioning organism. Regardless of your abortion stance, you cannot say this is a "blob".
You know, your argument is lost under the dreadful air of your ego.Just listen to you. Because I think that a fetus isn`t really a baby you accuse me of having a bad childhood, deprived of morals and values?I don`t think that a small lump of cells is a baby.I have morals, I think it`s wrong to kill someone, but I don`t consider an underdeveloped clump of tissue to be "human" when I consider it to have the potential to become a baby.
Have a nice day :-)
Speaking of "mouth of a motor bike"...
However, when it comes to someone that reminds you of an older brother or a parent; you turn into the French Revolution, in attempt to behead me and my beliefs for your own personal beliefs and freedoms; thus a lack of guidance and reckless behaviors and a mouth of a motor-bike.
When you make a choice... Do the benefits really out-weigh the consequences? And don`t look a day ahead; look more around a year, a decade, even generations ahead. Think 4-dimensionally. Please.
Okay, I guess that`s a bit extreme of a note; but that is how much I support my religion, rights and beliefs. Until death and beyond, and for eternity.
You can pretty much compare me to a Spartan. I mean, madness? THIS IS SPARTA!!!
Sorry, but IU live a life with purpose; serve none, or serve oneself and no others; your right to live is a fraction it`s original value since birth.
Set your priorities straight before you manipulate others. I don`t manipulate; I seek not to convert, but to make people understand. Apparently, this is mistaken as allow, and allowance is not accepted by my peers. Good day.
I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when the Day of Judgement comes. I`m just a law officer of God. I enforce the Law.
But remembner, males also partake in the creation of life, as well, to protect it, and it`s right of existance.
Excuse me? Just because a girl chooses not to be a mother, her life is without purpose or growth?News flash- not every woman wants to have kids. Some of them don`t want them at all. It`s more than just a sacrifice to have your life go in a direction that you simply don`t want. Or to have the misforune of being forced to raise a child before you`re ready- emotionally or financially.Also, yes, we all start life as usless, tiny little blobs. You did, I did, we all did, and so will any children that I may have in the future. If I don`t abort them first, that is.(not that I`m planning to, that was a joke)
Here`s an example:
sacrament |?sakr?m?nt| noun
- A religious ceremony or act of the Christian Church that is regarded as an outward and visible sign of inward and spiritual divine grace, in particular • (in the Roman Catholic and many Orthodox Churches) the rites of baptism, confirmation, the Eucharist, penance, anointing of the sick, ordination, and matrimony.
ORIGIN Middle English : from Old French sacrement, from Latin sacramentum ‘solemn oath’ (from sacrare ‘to hallow,’ from sacer ‘sacred’ ), used in Christian Latin as a translation of Greek must?rion ‘mystery.’
Look it up. I kid ye not.
In Heaven; I have right to tread in the holy grounds. You, unfortunately, might be a tiny bit lucky to even reach Purgatoy to look back on what you`re saying, and what you`re supporting. ...All of you.
And still, my "sexist" views? Yeah, like having women grinding on you wearing nothing at all; as well as sleeping around forcing these same women into the choice of abortion or *freedom* of remaining a singluar human being; makes you any better of a man.
Hey, at least I theorize, review, and inform; instead of practice the complete opposite of what I research, and do crap; like you, my ol` chum.
To gain without sacrifice... You`re sadly mistaken. And improper sacrifice, you`re screwed. In all ways other than the way you want to be screwed. Proper sacrifice, brings you a step closer to greater happiness, than the instant satasfaction which is only temporary.
In fact, that`s what the sacrament of Marriage is all about, really. I advise you study Chatechis
Accept abortion is legal? I understand independence and all, but isn`t abortion a contradiction of our rights? I DID read the Constitution and the Amendments (I, after all, studied government), and abortion is a contradiction through any law. Yes, right to choose; but to end a life sans-sacrifice?
Bull-poo. No matter what, there`s a sacrifice. One`s free will? Or one`s life? One of them has a more harsh consequence. Morally, it is right to sacrifice your free will to raise a child, but to sacrifice it in order to continue a life you had before, without purpose or growth, is a waste of a life.
As for the views of a child`s time of development (first few months), simply being a useless blob of cells; tell that to your child. They`ll *love* you forever.
And prowlson, even if you think it was like thatin the past, your still a sexist. and sadly, the closest thing your going to get to the preciouscartoons you call "anime" in heaven is Chick Tracts. :-<
And for you it`s just IMO not IMHO
"Let`s switch places. Imagine being in a warm cocoon of peace and quiet... --all of a sudden you are in the most hellish pain that not even Hell can conceive, and are practically blinded in the process. You are being burned by salt acids, as you watch a mysterious being putting you through torture. In the distance, you see a familiar face, and feel a familiar presence quickly fading away... and then you`re dead.That`s the 1-(3-6) month life span and 15-60 minutes of Hell that feels like an eternity of an aborted child-ling."
Yeah, in case you didn`t know, a fetus of only a few months doesn`t have the brain function to feel warm and cozy- let alone hellish pain. They`re simply a usless blob of cells- which has the potential to grow into a baby.
You see things in a material manner, and as for my "sexist" views on things, I am referring to what used to be. You know, way back when, these so-called "boring" people, bit the bullet more than anyone else in this generation ever could (myself included), fought in wars with meaning, wheter it be by thier will or not, and they also have to deal with the rapid decay of our culture.
IMHO, these so-called "boring old people" are absolute bada$$es. If your elders are still alive, ask about thier history; I guarantee you`ll never live up to those standards in your lifetime. Hell, even I couldn`t.
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
If when you`re wrong, You`re still right.then even when you`re putting your self down,you`re still intensly arrogant.
And diamond are tacky and almost useless pieces of crap.
Not all women want their lives ruined by an unexpected pregnancy, and women are equal to menin every way, and deserve all the rights and freedoms that men have, but you seem to want that for women, because you think that humansare evolv-"created" for procreation, survival, and life (pretty boring purposes), and women aremeant to be childbearing drones.
And you seem to mean calling me a female or hermaphrodite as an insult, I am not insultedbecause if I where a female or a hermaphroditeI would be as much a human as I am now.
You are a sexist.
When the world goes to Hell, I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when it happens. My soul is always prepared. Look at yourself, is yours?
Do some research and observation before you speak. Noone likes a stupid asshat.
Like a virus, we`re overpopulating this planet, and are destroying all the resources around us. If we continue to grow as a sentient race, within less than a century, all our resources will be lost to industry, pollution, and greed.
But that`s minor. As much as we were created for procreation, survival, and life; we`re destroying that very purpose through dependency through technology (weakening us through sloth, making us more vulnerable to death, and disease), abortions (further diminishing our purpose for procreation, thus breeding and containing more potent, unstoppable viruses, without means of evolving past them), and willful killing for self-worth, pleasure, or title maintainence, instead of survival (sustainence, protection). You know well enough you don`t need a Bible to tell you that.
...But considering how dense our species has become, maybe we did.
BTW, The Bible is a book of guidance and wisdom, a history book if anything, in which we must learn from past mistakes. Our world`s history. Not as a book of prophecy, premonitions, and fables as everyone else thinks it is.
About God wounding us, I simply state this: "To make a diamond, pressure must be applied.". One cannot improve upon oneself without going through trial and error. You, man --er woman... hermaphrodite... whatever the hell you are; sound like someone who hasn`t seen things from alternate standpoints. When I make judgements, I triangulate a correct answer by coordinating opinions, and tracing a source. LOTS of work to do in seconds. If I`m wrong, I`m still right.
If you believe Heaven is boring; then enjoy Earth for eternity. It`s the new Hell. Worse than death.
And from what I know from the toliet pap- I meanBible plugging your self is a no-no.
If we are no better than deamons why don`t we get those awesome powers such as possesing people? More proof that god is a giant jackass.
If I we`re a deamon I would posses someone with satelitte. Oh yeah!
And judging by the way god wants his followers toact, heaven is probably totally boring, I bet everyone listens to gospel and plays bingo. Yack!
And all the cool people are probably in hell,the people with personallity.
And Hitler`s mother consedered getting an abortion, but it was probably illigal back then.
Anyway God-wad, Since you don`t respect other people`s opinions, I will not respect yours.
Smell you later :-)
iamrobot: We are parasites. I agree. But, if you are so against life; just kill yourself already and get it over with, instead of attempting to influence others to unjustly kill others. It`s just as pointless as my preaching. Who gives a crap?
lieunym: That`s to show just how ignorant America as a whole is. So much, that I, as an American, am disgusted, and ashamed that people are so selfish, heartless, and thoughtless to sacrifice a life in order to prolong thier own pleasures or life. We`re no better than demons; God has plenty of right to smite us if he wanted to.
From what I remember, He wouldn`t. God is love. He would`nt kill us prematurely at His own accord, like we would with our unborn. He at least lets us devel
And we`re never going to agree on the abortion debate, I don`t think. :(
But it`s amazing what a womans body can do... to know you have life growing inside of you. Knowing it`s going to become a person, great or not, and you are its life as well as it is yours for at least 14 years, depending. I used to think I could get an abortion, but just knowing what is going on inside my body, what this child could be...
and P.S. - Being pregnant is like having a parasite growing inside you... look up the biological definition, and ask any pregnant woman, depending on her veiws :P
I can`t beleive I blabbered so much, sorry people :P
Prowler: While your opinions are strong, and they work for you, doesn`t make them true. It won`t change a lot of peoples minds.
This is a grey issue. It`s not black or white. It`s a complicated issue. I`m not for or against it. It`s the parents disicion if they are together, the woman herself if she is alone.
She herself knows what kind of life she could give that cild if it was born. If she is too poor to feed it, it`s going to suffer and die; if she is sick with a AIDS or HIV and has the child it will suffer and die IF it passes to the child; If she puts it up for adoption it may live its entire life in an orfanage suffering by knowing no one wants it. But also, if born healthy it could grow up to be a great person and do wonders for the world. And thats a lot of ifs.
Abortion doesn`t just hurt the un
How many of those deaths do you bet are due to suicides, drug overdoses, and murder?
I mean, what the hell? Have we completely lost what it means to be free? Freedom is right to everyone. Even un/pre-born. Freedom for everyone, not some. Balance in a world of ruin.
IT`S FU-KING HISTORY!!! Recall the hell we went through ourselves as a nation to earn our rights. And this is how we thank our ancestors?
I`m ashamed to be an American; and you can clearly see why. Open your eyes for once.
Remember what I said about my loyalty? I speak in honor of my country when I say I`m ashamed; because I expected better from a nation that speaks of freedom for everyone. Nobility within itself. I can care less if we lose this war, because then we`ll get a real lesson about our freedom; by losing it again, and clawing for it back.
nah it isn`t real it`s just based on a statistic and it goes up that much, pretty obviously ;d
You speak purely out of ignorance. Agreements are made through consideration, not popularity contests.
Anyway, it`s just taking general data on the average amount of bad things happening, then giving an approximation on what has happened/is happening.
It may be from an anime; but it`s pretty damn accurate by my viewpoint.
One requires pain to grow thicker skin, and endurance to be able to adapt accordingly, quickly. One must fail several times before mastery.
Why else do you think there are so many various species of plants and animals, yet they are the same creature? Same also applies to human beings. I`m not quite sure on my accuracy of this, but aren`t those of African origin, more adaptive to the sun`s rays than your standard Caucasian?
My guess is evolution takes place accordingly to where one is raised and how one fares the conditions. Make mistakes, learn from them, get over it. The simple rule of biting a fu(king bullet.
--What? What reason? Give me a good reason, and I`ll find a way to prove you wrong about it.
My advise on what the woman shall do: Bite the damn bullet, and raise the child to be unlike his father. It is guaranteed to work. My father has cheated on my mother, I am now by far, one of the most loyal people you`ll know.
"Why on earth aren`t people allowed to be selfish and do what is good to them?"
--Simple answer: 4 sins. Pride, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth.
That`s the 1-(3-6) month life span and 15-60 minutes of Hell that feels like an eternity of an aborted child-ling.
Back-story (as if anyone cares): I`m the 6th child of a large family (count 9 siblings). After 3 kids, many, many, MANY people have advised my mother to consider abortion at least several times per person, per sibling.
I may sound like an a$$hole beyond means, but I speak wisdom. I actually agree with the BS about possible world leaders and revolutionaries. I`M one of them.
Any disagreements can be tried. Lord have mercy on you who consider, because I won`t.
Aside from it all, the rough numbers and rates seem pretty sound. The only issue is that people are too ignorant to consider the consequences of these actions/problems displayed.
The rate of abortions is apalling if true, which seems very likely the rate. I understand, Earth is overpopulated as-is, but still, give life a chance instead of being a selfish cu|\|t. Same applies to the males; if you can`t raise a child, or aren`t responsible to raise one, don`t have freaking sex in the first place.
If a child is a consequence, then don`t have sex!!! C`mon, basic freaking morals. You don`t need religion to tell you that. And as well, you ARE killing a child before it is completely developed.
Yea well what if the woman was raped and the woman is left with a constant reminder of what happened and she can`t love it for that reason? what if the baby was going to grow up to have a disease that would make it suffer? Do you really think its fair to bring a child into the world that isn`t wanted and never was? No it`s not fair is it, people don`t have abortions to be cruel they do it for a reason.
if that technology was somehow concievebly possible i would guarantee in INCREASE in abortions because the mothers would actually be able to see when their unborn children become murders..
sure there would be some parents who would realize that their kids will become presidents but there will be even more who realize the exact opposite.
that argument is schit
It`s based on actual statistics from the World Health Organization and the US Census Bureau!Unless the creators are lying... in which case, my apologies for the use of the word "idiot".
my thoughts exactly... there`s this button on it with a question mark. read it.
your welcome dingo
Unless America contracted the European Rabbit Disease I don`t think we`re growing that fast.
and of course abortions are included in deaths.abortion is murder of a precious little baby.it`s the same as taking a newborn & hacking him or her apart...
It`s based on actual statistics from the World Health Organization and the US Census Bureau!Unless the creators are lying... in which case, my apologies for the use of the word "idiot".
Sounds fair to me.
OMG ABORTION IS HORRIBLE AND SO IS EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO KILLS [email protected]!!
but anyways yes the clock obviously isn`t 100% accurate but its definetly believable. I mean think of the birth all around the world and deaths all around the world. Theres billions of people on this planet why should it be suprising that the population grows every second.
But someone also dies in the very same second someone is born so whatever this is the cycle of life. stil a very neat concept
Someone just commited suicide :(
someone please throw a rock at them.
ps: sorry for double post
not an accurate clock though..oh well.
That`s some crazy whack midwest thinking.
Granted, this "information" is probably based on some statistics that can be regarded as accurate, but...hm.
besides, it can`t even be accurate (all the sicknesses anyways) because there are plenty of un-recorded sick people.
And who took them?