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  1. Profile photo of buddy
    buddy Male 30-39
    10116 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:58 am
    Link: World Clock - Lots of depressing info about the world.
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    tamahau Male 30-39
    259 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 1:14 am
    What are the statistics of this clock based on?

    And who took them?

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    12gaugelove Female 13-17
    1025 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:11 am
    wow. how do they get all that information?

    besides, it can`t even be accurate (all the sicknesses anyways) because there are plenty of un-recorded sick people.

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    ShakeNBake Male 18-29
    265 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:16 am
    wow...............look at the abortions.......i wish their was a way doctors could show the women who got the abortion what their kid could`ve become make them feel like poo
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    Serphyas Male 18-29
    16 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:23 am
    What a crock of s***. What is this information based on? It seems to me as if they just plugged in some algorithms and try to pass it off as "fact."

    Granted, this "information" is probably based on some statistics that can be regarded as accurate, but...hm.

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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
    2275 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:23 am
    ShakenBake...what if their kid became a mass murderer, or a rapist? Stop assuming that every aborted fetus is going to cure cancer, or stop aging, etc.

    That`s some crazy whack midwest thinking.

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    HaruHaru Female 13-17
    1066 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:24 am
    As much as I doubt the info is true, it`s still a neat idea and very fun to watch, makes you think about everything.
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    sarahxoxo Female 18-29
    493 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:24 am
    ...Still bored
  9. Profile photo of kihoshi
    kihoshi Female 18-29
    27 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:44 am
    *sarcastic* What a cheery thought to go to bed on.
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    robofish Male 13-17
    506 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:45 am
    There was something like this before.
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    quixoto Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2007 at 2:52 am
    So, the abortions are included in the total deaths.
    Interesting.
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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:00 am
    ShakeNBake... just look at that population growth rocket up there! We don`t need any more kids.
    However, I shall compromise. I wish women just used a damn rubber and didn`t get pregnant in the first place if they don`t want a baby!
    (and yes, I know some women are careful and the protection doesn`t work, or they`re raped or something, I accept those.)
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    xxminglexx Female 18-29
    761 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:04 am
    It`s based on all those things you hear that say "Every three seconds a child dies of starvation" Just to answer Tamahau`s question.
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    cannibal151 Male 18-29
    1551 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:14 am
    kewl
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    FrcknA Male 18-29
    151 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:41 am
    These things aren`t ever accurate.
    And stop trying to make political statements by including abortion rates.
    I go to IAB to unwind not to think about politics and other annoying poo.
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    derangedingo Male 13-17
    810 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:04 am
    i laughed when i saw the suicide ticker go up.

    not an accurate clock though..
    oh well.

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    derangedingo Male 13-17
    810 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:06 am
    oh yeah. if any idiot here shouts "L00K OMGzrz, TEH T3MP3RATUR IS GOING UP GL08A1 WARM1/\/G IS G0NNA K1LL US A11

    someone please throw a rock at them.

    ps: sorry for double post

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    iPirate Male 13-17
    419 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:15 am
    EVen if the Abortions were accurite, thats loads of stem cells we could use to help cure diabetes, Paralysis, and other diseases that can be cured (or helped) by replacing the cells. People think it is wrong to use an aborted baby for stem cells. Why? atleast the babys life went to help someone.
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    vintagepizza Female 13-17
    447 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:16 am
    I`m guessing that the clock is based on all those facts you hear on the news and stuff like:
    "There is an abortion every second"
    "This many people commit suicide every year"
    Other stuff like that. You can never know for sure how real facts like that are.
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    sunwavewind Female 18-29
    690 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:37 am
    Well at least more bicycles than cars are being produced.
  21. Profile photo of ADevil4LostB
    ADevil4LostB Female 13-17
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    July 3, 2007 at 4:48 am
    SPrinkZ, not all midwesterners think like that. I`m from the midwest and I don`t think that parents should ever have to ability to see what their kids would have been... You are completely right! What if they WERE murderers?! (I`m staying silent on my views on abortion... cause it will just stir up hell.)
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    IceWater Male 13-17
    155 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:49 am
    I think we sould try to cut down the population or else the world`s gonna end up like Japan.
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    clockwork208 Male 30-39
    835 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 7:28 am
    Had to be some bible-thumping nutjob. Abortions included in deaths and abortion out-killing damned near everything else? Callin` BS right now.
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    Bloigen Male 18-29
    156 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:14 am
    L00K OMGzrz, TEH T3MP3RATUR IS GOING UP GL08A1 WARM1/\/G IS G0NNA K1LL US A11
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    Crz4mets2 Male 13-17
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    July 3, 2007 at 8:26 am
    hehe Bloigen ^^^^^

    Someone just commited suicide :(

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    xxRaixx Female 18-29
    179 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:43 am
    That`s just...upsetting really
  27. Profile photo of nescient1
    nescient1 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:04 am
    thats pretty cool, the idea, not the things happening
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    SiriusLives Female 18-29
    428 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:21 am
    I think this is a repost. Meh, anyway, weird ass clock.
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    omgwtfbbqhax Male 13-17
    240 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:32 am
    I find it hard to believe 72 animal species went extinct today.
    Shake n Bake`s opinion on abortions is retarded, people who have abortions already feel like.... something far worse than poo
  30. Profile photo of AlixWIN
    AlixWIN Male 18-29
    54 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 10:47 am
    omgwtfbbqhax. I agree. You`re killing your future child. You probably feel worse than charles manson if he felt bad about what he did. And that`s easily the saddest clock I`ve ever seen.
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    kribbe Male 18-29
    2006 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 10:53 am
    OK, just why is the world population growing evry single second?
  32. Profile photo of soro
    soro Male 13-17
    693 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:32 am
    Makes you think how lucky we are to be healthy and able to surf the internet.
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    currybandit Male 18-29
    208 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:48 am
    ha ur ded ha so r u haha hes ded aswel
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    thewabbit Male 13-17
    366 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:48 am
    GO AIDS GO
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    thewabbit Male 13-17
    366 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:50 am
    btw, about making abortion patients feel bad, don`t they get depressed cos of the pregnancy hormones or something? or is that later in pregnancy...
  36. Profile photo of MarthFador
    MarthFador Female 18-29
    1004 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:50 am
    you know....This clock isnt exactly claiming to be accurate. I think it`s just following those things people say like "every eight seconds a child dies from AIDS!" or something along those lines. It is very depressing, though...
    As for abortion, I haven`t had a kid to truly say if I have a side or not. All I think is that a woman should be able to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy if she wants to. Technically, it`s not alive when it`s still in you, more like a parasite feeding off of you. As for those going on and on about how sad it would be to kill a child and whatnot....If they didn`t want it to begin with, they`re more likely to put it up for adoption. Thus the child will probably/probably not ever be adopted and suffer knowing his/her parents didn`t want them from the beginning...
    Besides the fact that over 6605610544 people is enough for the moment...
  37. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
    4376 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:59 am
    i`m pro-choice. i personally would never have an abortion but if a woman wants one she gets it. The only parti find sad is that most woman who have them end up wishing they didn`t and always wonder what their child woulkd`ve looked like and all that stuff

    but anyways yes the clock obviously isn`t 100% accurate but its definetly believable. I mean think of the birth all around the world and deaths all around the world. Theres billions of people on this planet why should it be suprising that the population grows every second.

    But someone also dies in the very same second someone is born so whatever this is the cycle of life. stil a very neat concept

  38. Profile photo of iansquall
    iansquall Female 18-29
    601 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:01 pm
    Woah, like, OMG, it`s life. Things like this happen.
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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
    426 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:03 pm
    Using the magic of knowledge it can be proven mathematically that the entire world`s population can fit within the borders of Texas.
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    Goldfishgal Female 18-29
    426 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:05 pm
    Hey, hey guys, watch, I`m going to start an argumant over the internet in this comment thread that will go over 12 pages!!!!!!!

    OMG ABORTION IS HORRIBLE AND SO IS EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO KILLS SOMETHINGGGGGG!!!!!1111one!!eleven!!!!!!@12!!

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    Dakkar Male 18-29
    1256 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:22 pm
    So if women can get abortions, men should be able to take steroids as long as its not used in a sporting event or for any other mode of cheating.

    Sounds fair to me.

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    DBtG Male 18-29
    330 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 12:24 pm
    Why are there so many idiots saying this is just based on "things people say"?

    It`s based on actual statistics from the World Health Organization and the US Census Bureau!
    Unless the creators are lying... in which case, my apologies for the use of the word "idiot".

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    desie Female 18-29
    576 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 1:32 pm
    it really didn`t make me sad until i saw the abortion one go up.

    and of course abortions are included in deaths.
    abortion is murder of a precious little baby.
    it`s the same as taking a newborn & hacking him or her apart...

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    hovalady411 Female 18-29
    1262 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 1:50 pm
    Isnt accurate enough. Do you know how many babies are born each second? The clock only goes up 1 child for each second.
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    Linaeve Female 18-29
    28 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:01 pm
    Hmm, so the population only goes one direction? Why wouldn`t the ticker be going up and down with all the births and deaths?
  46. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:05 pm
    so how does the world`s population keep going up every second when it doesn`t reduce from anyone`s death?
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    hellosilly Female 18-29
    69 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:11 pm
    wow is this real? and yeah it definitely makes you think. i still don`t think abortion`s wrong.
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    PeproniPizza Male 13-17
    687 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:20 pm
    LIES AND SLANDER!!! ONLY I EXIST BWAHAHAHA no really thats kinda sad but i noticed that like no one died from war for a very long time
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    blahblah2018 Male 18-29
    23 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:20 pm
    L00K OMGzrz, TEH T3MP3RATUR IS GOING UP GL08A1 WARM1/\/G IS G0NNA K1LL US A11
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    AFTERSHOCK Male 18-29
    2783 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:25 pm
    WHOA! SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. MAKES ME WONDER HOW IT`S GOING TO BE IN A FEW DECADES FROM NOW.
  51. Profile photo of Brant167
    Brant167 Male 18-29
    106 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:28 pm
    Life is precious.
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    sniugnep Female 13-17
    330 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:43 pm
    ShakeNBake... and HOW exactly would that be possible, and even if it was their child has as much chance of curing cancer and finding a way to live forever as creating a massive nuclear bomb and blowing up russia... or any other country/countries/continent (Russia was just the biggest country I could think of…)
    But both are really unlikely. Chances are they’d grow up to be a not particularly special, normal average person...
    And desie: abortion isn’t the same as taking a new born baby and hacking it apart, for one thing, it wouldn’t be nearly as painful, if the baby even felt it...
    But why is everyone having an argument on abortion anyway? Why don’t we have an argument on the number of bicycles being produced or something? XD
    drat, this is long…
  53. Profile photo of mts2457
    mts2457 Female 18-29
    535 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:58 pm
    Not nearly enough people are dying. =(
  54. Profile photo of klkl
    klkl Male 13-17
    1726 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 2:59 pm
    now im really sad...really neat tho to watch the earths temp rise by 0.000000001 degree as the day goes by
  55. Profile photo of WeaponWizard
    WeaponWizard Male 13-17
    74 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:00 pm
    For the person who said and people that think that a baby is just a parasite, think on this: You are saying, essentially, that you, your parents, friends, siblings, and anyone else you care about were good for nothing leeches, sucking the life from their mother until they came out
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    WeaponWizard Male 13-17
    74 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:01 pm
    And Brant167, I totally agree.
  57. Profile photo of WeaponWizard
    WeaponWizard Male 13-17
    74 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:04 pm
    For the person who said and people that think that a baby is just a parasite, think on this: You are saying, essentially, that you, your parents, friends, siblings, and anyone else you care about were good for nothing leeches, sucking the life from their mother until they came out
  58. Profile photo of sulu
    sulu Male 18-29
    994 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:21 pm
    This clock is bull, it`s been scientifically proven that the world`s birth rate is going down. As society goes up.

    Unless America contracted the European Rabbit Disease I don`t think we`re growing that fast.

  59. Profile photo of MarthFador
    MarthFador Female 18-29
    1004 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:36 pm
    WeaponWizard: Yup. When a baby is still inside you, it`s living off of you the way a parasite would. That includes any other creature that gives birth.
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    shizzaster Male 13-17
    1866 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 3:50 pm
    wow totally shocking.
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    larajunky Female 40-49
    1832 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:14 pm
    ok now I`m depressed, thanks IAB
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    Varifael Female 18-29
    239 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:32 pm
    This clock isn`t accurate, as it says if you scroll over to the question mark, but it sure is funny. Except for that time where the suicide ticker went up. That wasn`t awesome.
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    readytofall Male 13-17
    424 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 4:55 pm
    *throws a rock at bloigen*

    your welcome dingo

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    readytofall Male 13-17
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    July 3, 2007 at 4:57 pm
    *and blahblah*
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    ieatbunnies Male 30-39
    881 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 5:17 pm
    Thats far too few abortions. Come on people, pick up the pace!
    Remember, just because it has your DNA doesnt mean its yours.
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    tricky13 Female 18-29
    145 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 5:49 pm
    if i killed myself right this second would it know????
  67. Profile photo of poke321
    poke321 Male 13-17
    447 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 5:55 pm
    its not accurate
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    eleutherarch Female 13-17
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    July 3, 2007 at 6:23 pm
    Someone needs to make a clock that gives good news.
    Learning how many people died of something isn`t something that usually makes others cheerful.
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    cargasm Male 18-29
    340 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 6:44 pm
    yay for obortion! to everyone that thinks some oborted kid could grow up to save the world.. the kid isnt even wanted by its own mother.. it would grow up unloved and unwanted.. prolly kill some people.. cause a whole lot of trouble.. kill itself.. why not just skip all that.. lol
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    yog_live Female 18-29
    32 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 7:32 pm
    Why are there so many idiots saying this is just based on "things people say"?

    It`s based on actual statistics from the World Health Organization and the US Census Bureau!
    Unless the creators are lying... in which case, my apologies for the use of the word "idiot".

    my thoughts exactly... there`s this button on it with a question mark. read it.

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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    July 3, 2007 at 7:44 pm
    Those numbers are way too low, I am gonna go set something on fire.
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    stumped4ever Male 13-17
    577 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:19 pm
    well...this this is just based on how many things happen per min. on average... like every 6 seconds someone gets hiv...
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    Abacab2112 Male 18-29
    433 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:25 pm
    I like how it has the Earth`s temperature constantly rising even though the mean temperature hasn`t really gone up for almost 10 years. :-D
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    shiggin Female 13-17
    1470 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:30 pm
    Wow...just wow
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    philippic Male 18-29
    1704 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 8:42 pm
    damn thats freaky.
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    weak Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2007 at 8:50 pm
    i find it funny that everyones asking where they got the information when it says the names of the sources when u click the big question mark
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    ThksFrThMmrs Female 13-17
    136 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:03 pm
    well, that`s quite interesting.
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    kmuggee Female 13-17
    681 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:26 pm
    thats really sad... if it is accurate
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    nicole_xo Female 13-17
    2552 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:32 pm
    Oh.
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    jagger04 Male 50-59
    538 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 9:55 pm
    "wow...............look at the abortions.......i wish their was a way doctors could show the women who got the abortion what their kid could`ve become make them feel like poo"


    if that technology was somehow concievebly possible i would guarantee in INCREASE in abortions because the mothers would actually be able to see when their unborn children become murders..

    sure there would be some parents who would realize that their kids will become presidents but there will be even more who realize the exact opposite.

    that argument is schit

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    ccaattss Female 13-17
    35 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 10:10 pm
    "wow...............look at the abortions.......i wish their was a way doctors could show the women who got the abortion what their kid could`ve become make them feel like poo"

    Yea well what if the woman was raped and the woman is left with a constant reminder of what happened and she can`t love it for that reason? what if the baby was going to grow up to have a disease that would make it suffer? Do you really think its fair to bring a child into the world that isn`t wanted and never was? No it`s not fair is it, people don`t have abortions to be cruel they do it for a reason.

  82. Profile photo of Phantomfire
    Phantomfire Male 70 & Over
    111 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 11:30 pm
    ^^That is not true in like 8 different ways.
  83. Profile photo of HoofFoot
    HoofFoot Female 18-29
    44 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:13 am
    Why on earth aren`t people allowed to be selfish and do what is good to them?
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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:27 am
    Not bad a concept. Just wish it could actually work like it`s supposed to. Tons of bias.

    Aside from it all, the rough numbers and rates seem pretty sound. The only issue is that people are too ignorant to consider the consequences of these actions/problems displayed.

    The rate of abortions is apalling if true, which seems very likely the rate. I understand, Earth is overpopulated as-is, but still, give life a chance instead of being a selfish cu|\|t. Same applies to the males; if you can`t raise a child, or aren`t responsible to raise one, don`t have freaking sex in the first place.

    If a child is a consequence, then don`t have sex!!! C`mon, basic freaking morals. You don`t need religion to tell you that. And as well, you ARE killing a child before it is completely developed.

  85. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:47 am
    Let`s switch places. Imagine being in a warm cocoon of peace and quiet... --all of a sudden you are in the most hellish pain that not even Hell can conceive, and are practically blinded in the process. You are being burned by salt acids, as you watch a mysterious being putting you through torture. In the distance, you see a familiar face, and feel a familiar presence quickly fading away... and then you`re dead.

    That`s the 1-(3-6) month life span and 15-60 minutes of Hell that feels like an eternity of an aborted child-ling.

    Back-story (as if anyone cares): I`m the 6th child of a large family (count 9 siblings). After 3 kids, many, many, MANY people have advised my mother to consider abortion at least several times per person, per sibling.

    I may sound like an a$$hole beyond means, but I speak wisdom. I actually agree with the BS about possible world leaders and revolutionaries. I`M one of them.

    Any disagreements can be tried. Lord have mercy on you who consider, because I won`t.

  86. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:58 am
    "Yea well what if the woman was raped and the woman is left with a constant reminder of what happened and she can`t love it for that reason? what if the baby was going to grow up to have a disease that would make it suffer? Do you really think its fair to bring a child into the world that isn`t wanted and never was? No it`s not fair is it, people don`t have abortions to be cruel they do it for a reason."

    --What? What reason? Give me a good reason, and I`ll find a way to prove you wrong about it.

    My advise on what the woman shall do: Bite the damn bullet, and raise the child to be unlike his father. It is guaranteed to work. My father has cheated on my mother, I am now by far, one of the most loyal people you`ll know.

    "Why on earth aren`t people allowed to be selfish and do what is good to them?"

    --Simple answer: 4 sins. Pride, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:05 am
    BTW, swords cannot be strengthened without being tempered with fire first. Diamonds require time and pressure to form. Refinement requires heat and patience, as well as thorough filtering.

    One requires pain to grow thicker skin, and endurance to be able to adapt accordingly, quickly. One must fail several times before mastery.

    Why else do you think there are so many various species of plants and animals, yet they are the same creature? Same also applies to human beings. I`m not quite sure on my accuracy of this, but aren`t those of African origin, more adaptive to the sun`s rays than your standard Caucasian?

    My guess is evolution takes place accordingly to where one is raised and how one fares the conditions. Make mistakes, learn from them, get over it. The simple rule of biting a fu(king bullet.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:10 am
    "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost." --Alphonse Elric, Fullmetal Alchemist

    It may be from an anime; but it`s pretty damn accurate by my viewpoint.

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    CheeseMan1 Male 18-29
    1409 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:20 am
    4 species extinct today? I`d like to know what they are...

    Anyway, it`s just taking general data on the average
    amount of bad things happening, then giving an approximation on what has happened/is happening.

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    Bert10099 Male 13-17
    165 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:35 am
    I`ve said it once, I`ll say it again:
    No one has the right to impose their own morals or beliefs on anyone but themselves.
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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:42 am
    I`m not imposing. I`m telling it as it is.

    You speak purely out of ignorance. Agreements are made through consideration, not popularity contests.

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    someone? Male 13-17
    1371 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 1:51 am
    whoamg proof of global warming ;d

    nah it isn`t real it`s just based on a statistic and it goes up that much, pretty obviously ;d

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:00 am
    I know it`s Independence Day now; but this shames me to be American if we really are this ignorant and stupid with our independence.

    I mean, what the hell? Have we completely lost what it means to be free? Freedom is right to everyone. Even un/pre-born. Freedom for everyone, not some. Balance in a world of ruin.

    IT`S FU-KING HISTORY!!! Recall the hell we went through ourselves as a nation to earn our rights. And this is how we thank our ancestors?

    I`m ashamed to be an American; and you can clearly see why. Open your eyes for once.

    Remember what I said about my loyalty? I speak in honor of my country when I say I`m ashamed; because I expected better from a nation that speaks of freedom for everyone. Nobility within itself. I can care less if we lose this war, because then we`ll get a real lesson about our freedom; by losing it again, and clawing for it back.

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    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:02 am
    You know what they should do? Keep their eye on that "illegal immigration" counter. Every time it goes up, they could run outside and nab the people that sneaked in.
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    BlacRyu Male 18-29
    22 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:55 am
    well its nice to know that there`s 3 bikes to every car.
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    zintosion Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:06 am
    L00K OMGzrz, TEH T3MP3RATUR IS GOING UP GL08A1 WARM1/\/G IS G0NNA K1LL US A11
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    xtreme_dude Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:31 am
    A illegal immigrant just hopped the border
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    Vimto Male 40-49
    2852 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:56 am
    Sorry ... was sitting there watching the number of suicides going up ... figures like that just make me wanna kill myself ...
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    Snoogans Male 30-39
    869 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:11 am
    I have my money on leprosy. It`s my dark horse pick! And who knew that almost a million people have died from getting the runs? Mix in a little pepto people =)
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    maneaterx3 Female 13-17
    488 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:29 am
    Well at least the rate of births is faster than the rate of deaths.

    How many of those deaths do you bet are due to suicides, drug overdoses, and murder?

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    svetaohio Female 18-29
    61 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:27 pm
    It`s weird that mothers dieing from abortions is on there, but I bet that happens alot in India and China and stuff where people can`t afford good healthcare. I mean, I know it happens in America but more often with the coat-hanger abortions.
  102. Profile photo of svetaohio
    svetaohio Female 18-29
    61 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 12:28 pm
    Prowler, rate of abortions is prolly accurate. They say that 1/3 of fetuses are miscarried, 1/3 more aborted, and the last 1/3 born. So... be glad you`re in the lucky 1/3!
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    thetoastking Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:13 pm
    this is bollocks
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    amandabear Female 13-17
    16 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:38 pm
    i dont realy care if the thing is accurate or not. its still shows you what kind of crap is going on in the world. and to all those saying that not every baby is important, how would you know, so ya some of them mite become killers or somthing bad, but you never know. and who are you to judge. every child is a blessing no matter what. and if you realy do think like that then maybe your just a waste of sperm to.
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    Phantomfire Male 70 & Over
    111 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 8:15 pm
    Thank you ,prowler. :-)
  106. Profile photo of Verin
    Verin Female 13-17
    9 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:36 pm
    I know a lot of people who have been thrown from foster home to foster home, been taken out of school to be questioned about their foster parents beating them, having to leave the school because their "parents" don`t want them anymore. They take drugs, they carelessly have sex, they don`t care for themselves. I`m not saying abortion is right or wrong, I`m saying that has anyone stopped to ask a kid what it`s like? How many of those suicides were committed by children? How many times has a mother regretted what she did? Hell, how many times have parents not? I think no one should say whether it`s right or wrong, if this country is free, then da**it if I want to get an abotrion I`ll get the abortin. If I decide that my child`s life is special to me, and that whether I wanted it or not, I keep it, that`s up to ME. But when the time comes, and depending on the circumstances, I`ll choose then. But wait till it`s you in the situation before you decide if you`re right or not.
  107. Profile photo of CheryKoolaid
    CheryKoolaid Female 18-29
    30 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:58 pm
    Why the big debate on abortion? The world is never going to agree on whether it`s right or wrong. Just agree to disagree, have your opinions and let other people have theirs.

    Prowler: While your opinions are strong, and they work for you, doesn`t make them true. It won`t change a lot of peoples minds.

    This is a grey issue. It`s not black or white. It`s a complicated issue. I`m not for or against it. It`s the parents disicion if they are together, the woman herself if she is alone.

    She herself knows what kind of life she could give that cild if it was born. If she is too poor to feed it, it`s going to suffer and die; if she is sick with a AIDS or HIV and has the child it will suffer and die IF it passes to the child; If she puts it up for adoption it may live its entire life in an orfanage suffering by knowing no one wants it. But also, if born healthy it could grow up to be a great person and do wonders for the world. And thats a lot of ifs.

    Abortion doesn`t just hurt the un

  108. Profile photo of CheryKoolaid
    CheryKoolaid Female 18-29
    30 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:58 pm
    Abortion doesn`t just hurt the unborn child, it hurts the mother too. She has to live with it.

    But it`s amazing what a womans body can do... to know you have life growing inside of you. Knowing it`s going to become a person, great or not, and you are its life as well as it is yours for at least 14 years, depending. I used to think I could get an abortion, but just knowing what is going on inside my body, what this child could be...

    and P.S. - Being pregnant is like having a parasite growing inside you... look up the biological definition, and ask any pregnant woman, depending on her veiws :P


    I can`t beleive I blabbered so much, sorry people :P

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    RadRockette Female 13-17
    655 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 1:09 am
    thats reaaally depressing ::sigh::
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    lieunym Female 18-29
    458 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:44 am
    For people saying "All life is precious" concerning abortions.
    You make abortions illegal, guess what`s going to happen? Those women desperate for abortions anyway will go and get an ILLEGAL abortion, in unsanitary conditions. This puts both the mother AND the child at risk (rising the death toll. Is the mother`s life always forfeit to the child`s?). So now you have two lives on the line, instead of just one.
    Sounds like a freakin` winner.
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    sophiemichel Female 13-17
    217 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:55 pm
    I don`t think its completely accurate, but it still makes you think.

    And we`re never going to agree on the abortion debate, I don`t think. :(

  112. Profile photo of p-ball4life
    p-ball4life Male 18-29
    645 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 12:44 am
    so, 13749 species went extinct in one year... bs oh and all you people who argue about random poo on the internet, drat off and stop ruining the fun for everyone else.
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    NumbuhZero Female 18-29
    878 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 1:57 am
    This is all lies.
  114. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 2:02 am
    My political views are individualist; you know, TRUE American, independant with no need for guidance. I am transparent in my political identedy, nether grey, white, nor black; but my views are. I see life in half-tones, not shades of grey, like everyone else does.

    iamrobot: We are parasites. I agree. But, if you are so against life; just kill yourself already and get it over with, instead of attempting to influence others to unjustly kill others. It`s just as pointless as my preaching. Who gives a crap?

    lieunym: That`s to show just how ignorant America as a whole is. So much, that I, as an American, am disgusted, and ashamed that people are so selfish, heartless, and thoughtless to sacrifice a life in order to prolong thier own pleasures or life. We`re no better than demons; God has plenty of right to smite us if he wanted to.

    From what I remember, He wouldn`t. God is love. He would`nt kill us prematurely at His own accord, like we would with our unborn. He at least lets us devel

  115. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 2:06 am
    *develop.
  116. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 10:25 am
    he let`s us develop so he can wound and annoy us before he loses interest, what a omnipotent
    w a n k er.

    If we are no better than deamons why don`t we get those awesome powers such as possesing people? More proof that god is a giant jackass.

    If I we`re a deamon I would posses someone with
    satelitte. Oh yeah!

    And judging by the way god wants his followers to
    act, heaven is probably totally boring, I bet everyone listens to gospel and plays bingo. Yack!

    And all the cool people are probably in hell,
    the people with personallity.

    And Hitler`s mother consedered getting an abortion, but it was probably illigal back then.

    Anyway God-wad, Since you don`t respect other people`s opinions, I will not respect yours.

    Smell you later :-)


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    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 10:37 am
    Yo Goddy, My guess is you`ve never been raped and had to raise a rapist`s child, so you would`nt know what it`s like.

    And from what I know from the toliet pap- I mean
    Bible plugging your self is a no-no.

  118. Profile photo of Cindy_
    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 10:41 am
    I`ve been following this argument a little bit. It`s just a link on a website, guys. But, if you must debate things, it`s best to not insult the other person`s beliefs if you want to be taken seriously. Just a thought.
  119. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 11:20 am
    Hey come on cindy, we`re just having a good ol`
    argument, just fun `n` games y`know. It`s only a
    matter of time before we start calling each other
    boobmaster or fartknocker, when debate team fails
    you, theirs always beavis and butthead. :-D
  120. Profile photo of Cindy_
    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 11:22 am
    Hahahaha, OK. Carry on then.
  121. Profile photo of Anthonym210
    Anthonym210 Male 13-17
    3 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 6:05 pm
    amazing how on the deaths part "war" has the least......
  122. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 12:42 am
    You know iamrobot? maybe I can`t know what it`s like being raped and raising a rapist`s bastard (by term), like you probably had to. (are you sure you`re a male?)

    BTW, The Bible is a book of guidance and wisdom, a history book if anything, in which we must learn from past mistakes. Our world`s history. Not as a book of prophecy, premonitions, and fables as everyone else thinks it is.

    About God wounding us, I simply state this: "To make a diamond, pressure must be applied.". One cannot improve upon oneself without going through trial and error. You, man --er woman... hermaphrodite... whatever the hell you are; sound like someone who hasn`t seen things from alternate standpoints. When I make judgements, I triangulate a correct answer by coordinating opinions, and tracing a source. LOTS of work to do in seconds. If I`m wrong, I`m still right.

    If you believe Heaven is boring; then enjoy Earth for eternity. It`s the new Hell. Worse than death.

  123. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 1:02 am
    If you look at things from this alternate standpoint, maybe you`ll see why we are really no better than demons.

    Like a virus, we`re overpopulating this planet, and are destroying all the resources around us. If we continue to grow as a sentient race, within less than a century, all our resources will be lost to industry, pollution, and greed.

    But that`s minor. As much as we were created for procreation, survival, and life; we`re destroying that very purpose through dependency through technology (weakening us through sloth, making us more vulnerable to death, and disease), abortions (further diminishing our purpose for procreation, thus breeding and containing more potent, unstoppable viruses, without means of evolving past them), and willful killing for self-worth, pleasure, or title maintainence, instead of survival (sustainence, protection). You know well enough you don`t need a Bible to tell you that.

    ...But considering how dense our species has become, maybe we did.

  124. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 1:10 am
    When I speak of/for morals and beliefs, I don`t speak in a God-fearing tone.

    When the world goes to Hell, I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when it happens. My soul is always prepared. Look at yourself, is yours?

    Do some research and observation before you speak. Noone likes a stupid asshat.

  125. Profile photo of ddr_coke21
    ddr_coke21 Male 13-17
    374 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 2:25 am
    Hover over the little "?".
    The stats are pretty accurate.
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    LUVPEACE90 Female 13-17
    348 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 12:29 pm
    wow
  127. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 6:00 pm
    yo dude who is against abortion but wants me to kill myself(go figure).

    Not all women want their lives ruined by an unexpected pregnancy, and women are equal to men
    in every way, and deserve all the rights and freedoms that men have, but you seem to want that for women, because you think that humans
    are evolv-"created" for procreation, survival, and life (pretty boring purposes), and women are
    meant to be childbearing drones.

    And you seem to mean calling me a female or hermaphrodite as an insult, I am not insulted
    because if I where a female or a hermaphrodite
    I would be as much a human as I am now.

    You are a sexist.

  128. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 6:09 pm
    About god wounding us: He gets bored listening to
    gospel and playing bingo so he decides to have some fun dropping pianos on and cliffing the farraris of his puny creations. Jackass.

    If when you`re wrong, You`re still right.
    then even when you`re putting your self down,
    you`re still intensly arrogant.

    And diamond are tacky and almost useless pieces of crap.

  129. Profile photo of LKJSlain
    LKJSlain Female 18-29
    648 posts
    July 7, 2007 at 9:34 pm
    scientifically, everything is winding down... NOT speeding up... So, you can forget about "the big bang" theory.
    www.godandscience.org
    www.elliselectives.etsy.com
  130. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 1:01 am
    Hmm... I see trying to convince an ignorant, adolescant fool like you of anything is equivalent to my chances of obtaining the ultimate answer to what women want (which according to my theories, and your ignorance, you`ll be interested). Not likely. How old are you? 13? Then my word is pointless no matter what I say.

    You see things in a material manner, and as for my "sexist" views on things, I am referring to what used to be. You know, way back when, these so-called "boring" people, bit the bullet more than anyone else in this generation ever could (myself included), fought in wars with meaning, wheter it be by thier will or not, and they also have to deal with the rapid decay of our culture.

    IMHO, these so-called "boring old people" are absolute bada$$es. If your elders are still alive, ask about thier history; I guarantee you`ll never live up to those standards in your lifetime. Hell, even I couldn`t.

    "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

  131. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 2:55 am
    Prowler, while I agree with your statments of using birth control (albeit you only mentioned abstinence) instead of conceiving and aborting- I have to tell you that this statement-

    "Let`s switch places. Imagine being in a warm cocoon of peace and quiet... --all of a sudden you are in the most hellish pain that not even Hell can conceive, and are practically blinded in the process. You are being burned by salt acids, as you watch a mysterious being putting you through torture. In the distance, you see a familiar face, and feel a familiar presence quickly fading away... and then you`re dead.
    That`s the 1-(3-6) month life span and 15-60 minutes of Hell that feels like an eternity of an aborted child-ling."

    Yeah, in case you didn`t know, a fetus of only a few months doesn`t have the brain function to feel warm and cozy- let alone hellish pain. They`re simply a usless blob of cells- which has the potential to grow into a baby.

  132. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 2:58 am
    Also, you have no right to tell a raped woman to simply suck it up and raise her rapists child. I don`t know what it`s like, no.
    But you don`t know, either, and until you are in that situation, you can`t tell people what it`s like and what to do.
    Until you`re a woman who is forced to forfit her entire life to a child that she is bound to slave over for for a minimum of 18 years- 18 years of her life being non-exsistant- then you have no right to tell her that she has to keep her baby.
    I do wish women would not get pregnant in the first place or opt for adoption, but we all have to accept that abortion is legal, it will be used, and you can`t possibly know what it`s like to have to choose between your life or your lump of cells in your stomach.
  133. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 9:44 am
    jjcruiser13 is a very smart person, smarter than me, she gets right to the point.

    And prowlson, even if you think it was like that
    in the past, your still a sexist. and sadly, the closest thing your going to get to the precious
    cartoons you call "anime" in heaven is Chick Tracts. :-<

    And for you it`s just IMO not IMHO

  134. Profile photo of gilly_60
    gilly_60 Male 13-17
    108 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 11:31 pm
    hmm.. is it good or bad that the oil production, is like, skyrocketing?
  135. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 12:09 am
    Obviously "Sacrifice" is not within either of your dictionaries. Believe me, it pays off in the afterlife, as well as the child`s thanks for you taking your time (provided you raised the child right, or even bothered).

    Accept abortion is legal? I understand independence and all, but isn`t abortion a contradiction of our rights? I DID read the Constitution and the Amendments (I, after all, studied government), and abortion is a contradiction through any law. Yes, right to choose; but to end a life sans-sacrifice?

    Bull-poo. No matter what, there`s a sacrifice. One`s free will? Or one`s life? One of them has a more harsh consequence. Morally, it is right to sacrifice your free will to raise a child, but to sacrifice it in order to continue a life you had before, without purpose or growth, is a waste of a life.

    As for the views of a child`s time of development (first few months), simply being a useless blob of cells; tell that to your child. They`ll *love* you forever.

  136. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 12:28 am
    Oh, and robot:

    In Heaven; I have right to tread in the holy grounds. You, unfortunately, might be a tiny bit lucky to even reach Purgatoy to look back on what you`re saying, and what you`re supporting. ...All of you.

    And still, my "sexist" views? Yeah, like having women grinding on you wearing nothing at all; as well as sleeping around forcing these same women into the choice of abortion or *freedom* of remaining a singluar human being; makes you any better of a man.

    Hey, at least I theorize, review, and inform; instead of practice the complete opposite of what I research, and do crap; like you, my ol` chum.

    To gain without sacrifice... You`re sadly mistaken. And improper sacrifice, you`re screwed. In all ways other than the way you want to be screwed. Proper sacrifice, brings you a step closer to greater happiness, than the instant satasfaction which is only temporary.

    In fact, that`s what the sacrament of Marriage is all about, really. I advise you study Chatechis

  137. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 12:31 am
    * I advise you study Chatechism as well. You`ll not only get my message, but you`ll also learn that religion is more than "spells and faeries".

    Here`s an example:

    sacrament |?sakr?m?nt| noun

    - A religious ceremony or act of the Christian Church that is regarded as an outward and visible sign of inward and spiritual divine grace, in particular
    • (in the Roman Catholic and many Orthodox Churches) the rites of baptism, confirmation, the Eucharist, penance, anointing of the sick, ordination, and matrimony.

    ORIGIN Middle English : from Old French sacrement, from Latin sacramentum ‘solemn oath’ (from sacrare ‘to hallow,’ from sacer ‘sacred’ ), used in Christian Latin as a translation of Greek must?rion ‘mystery.’


    Look it up. I kid ye not.

  138. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 1:27 am
    "Morally, it is right to sacrifice your free will to raise a child, but to sacrifice it in order to continue a life you had before, without purpose or growth, is a waste of a life.
    As for the views of a child`s time of development (first few months), simply being a useless blob of cells; tell that to your child. They`ll *love* you forever."


    Excuse me? Just because a girl chooses not to be a mother, her life is without purpose or growth?
    News flash- not every woman wants to have kids. Some of them don`t want them at all. It`s more than just a sacrifice to have your life go in a direction that you simply don`t want. Or to have the misforune of being forced to raise a child before you`re ready- emotionally or financially.
    Also, yes, we all start life as usless, tiny little blobs. You did, I did, we all did, and so will any children that I may have in the future. If I don`t abort them first, that is.
    (not that I`m planning to, that was a joke)

  139. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 1:31 am
    However, I do respect your opinion. If you don`t like abortions, don`t have one.
    But I`m sorry if I think that you are in no place to tell a woman how to handle a process that you will NEVER fully understand anyway. You can never really know what it`s like to be pregnant, to have to sacrifice your life to another life. As a male, you have the option of ducking out. We don`t.
  140. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 2:20 am
    Yes, but you have the right to choose if a life is to exist, or not.

    But remembner, males also partake in the creation of life, as well, to protect it, and it`s right of existance.

  141. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 2:28 am
    These rapists and players are none more than a bunch of cowards that serve no purpose in life, except, if war is to come worse than alreay has, serve as cannon fodder or kamikaze units. But I bet they`ll fail at that too. Everyone loves a decoy. (Note, this is my militaristic side, no longer my moral "do what is right" routine)

    Sorry, but IU live a life with purpose; serve none, or serve oneself and no others; your right to live is a fraction it`s original value since birth.

    Set your priorities straight before you manipulate others. I don`t manipulate; I seek not to convert, but to make people understand. Apparently, this is mistaken as allow, and allowance is not accepted by my peers. Good day.

    I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when the Day of Judgement comes. I`m just a law officer of God. I enforce the Law.

  142. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 2:39 am
    "I`m just a law officer of God. I enforce the Law."

    Okay, I guess that`s a bit extreme of a note; but that is how much I support my religion, rights and beliefs. Until death and beyond, and for eternity.

    You can pretty much compare me to a Spartan. I mean, madness? THIS IS SPARTA!!!

  143. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 2:55 am
    From the support and enforcement of your statements, Robot, Cruiser; I take it you both are either only-children, or have very few non-supportive siblings, or crappy parents that are not much for teaching morality. Or as a child, whenever you did bad, you didn`t get smacked for it, thus, not learning a lesson (and no, I wasn`t beaten as a child for no apparent reason; I have made mistakes myself as a child too. I learned, and I pass wisdom. You can choose to listen, but I hope to God you make the right one.).

    However, when it comes to someone that reminds you of an older brother or a parent; you turn into the French Revolution, in attempt to behead me and my beliefs for your own personal beliefs and freedoms; thus a lack of guidance and reckless behaviors and a mouth of a motor-bike.

    When you make a choice... Do the benefits really out-weigh the consequences? And don`t look a day ahead; look more around a year, a decade, even generations ahead. Think 4-dimensionally. Please.

  144. Profile photo of iamrobot13
    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 9:16 am
    Right-o. since you support child abuse, I instanly lose any and all respect for you,
    and conseder you a lower form of humanity
    from a thankfully almost forgotten era.

    Have a nice day :-)

    Speaking of "mouth of a motor bike"...

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:04 am
    "Robot, Cruiser; I take it you both are either only-children, or have very few non-supportive siblings, or crappy parents that are not much for teaching morality. Or as a child, whenever you did bad, you didn`t get smacked for it, thus, not learning a lesson (and no, I wasn`t beaten as a child for no apparent reason; I have made mistakes myself as a child too. I learned, and I pass wisdom. You can choose to listen, but I hope to God you make the right one.)."

    You know, your argument is lost under the dreadful air of your ego.
    Just listen to you. Because I think that a fetus isn`t really a baby you accuse me of having a bad childhood, deprived of morals and values?
    I don`t think that a small lump of cells is a baby.
    I have morals, I think it`s wrong to kill someone, but I don`t consider an underdeveloped clump of tissue to be "human" when I consider it to have the potential to become a baby.

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    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:11 am
    I am not going to start infusing this debate with morality or any of my own personal beliefs. I will, however, step in momentarily to show you something. This is a fetus as 7 weeks gestation. That is, 3 weeks after your 1st missed period. Remember, you`ve only known for 3 weeks that you`re pregnant.

    /photos/f_photo/729948329618036f_photo.jpg

    This blob of cells has a brain, nerves, internal organs, including a beating heart, and bones are forming (see the ribs). It`s not a useless blob. It`s a functioning organism. Regardless of your abortion stance, you cannot say this is a "blob".

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:11 am
    I don`t really see what your parents hitting you has to do with anything. I grew up just fine with my parents, and just because I don`t agree with your OPINIONS, you try to act like I have no values.
    "However, when it comes to someone that reminds you of an older brother or a parent; you turn into the French Revolution, in attempt to behead me and my beliefs for your own personal beliefs and freedoms"

    Who said I was trying to behead you? We have different ideals, and I don`t care if YOU don`t like abortion.

    "I don`t feel like saying "I told you so." when the Day of Judgement comes. I`m just a law officer of God. I enforce the Law."

    If you want to mistake yourself for really being this saint like "officer of God" go ahead.
    But as a non-christian, your threats of "judgment day" don`t scare me.
    And "the Law" is NOT whatever the bible says for me. Sorry.

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:12 am
    "Regardless of your abortion stance, you cannot say this is a "blob"."

    Yes, I can. Look at that blob!

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    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:16 am
    Let me rephrase that, then. One cannot logically call that a "blob". Like I said, I`m not here to give you my stance on this whole thing, but just to show you an error you made in speaking.
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    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:55 am
    Okay fine blob with eyes ;-)
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    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 11:01 am
    sorry just joking.

    Look Cindy if you think abortion is wrong admit, you can say it, and as long as you respect our beliefs, (unlike SOMEONE we know) we`ll respect
    yours.

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    Cindy_ Female 30-39
    531 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 2:47 pm
    On 7/9/2007 11:01:36 AM iamrobot13 wrote: sorry just joking. Look Cindy if you think abortion is wrong admit, you can say it, and as long as you respect our beliefs, (unlike SOMEONE we know) we`ll respect yours.
    I don`t get into debates about politics, religion, or abortion unless I absolutely have to. I think I`ll sit this one out, but thanks for the invitation.
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    Verin Female 13-17
    9 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 8:30 pm
    Wow, no one`s b!tched at me yet. (knock on wood)
    Anyway, let`s start an argument er uh, sorry, respectful debate, on the war! Just kidding.
    Personally, I don`t really belive in God, so I won`t get into a religous debate. I though, choose not to live my life by a book. Or Oprah for that matter. That "blob" was cute though, in an undeveloped blobbish way... Either way let`s stop arguing about abortion, as we all have different views and like America should do; stop pushing them on other people. And let`s all stop complaining about our views not being "respected". What are, 5? Who cares if they don`t like what you say. Get over it. No one needs to really respect someone elses opinion if they are too bullheaded and/or rude or something to do so. That`s another one of their opinions if they think something insulting about you. Some people should stop being so egotistical. Not saying anyone is, just saying.
    I`m done for now. :)
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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 9, 2007 at 10:23 pm
    Sorry; I do get arrogant. I just hold an encyclopedic mind on just about everything. And I don`t live my life on a book. A majority of my beliefs are purely by instinct.

    Thanks Cindy for at least trying to talk sense into these numbnuts. And verin; I`m straight BTW. I`m not an Oprah-zealot, according to how that sounded.

    As for the blob theory; an amoeba is a blob; a single-celled blob; as is a paramecium. A fully functional complex organism, however, is a being of sorts. Or, in a sense, a creature.

    I`ll cease my talking, seeing as noone gives a damn about a little something called a Code of Law; (Athiests don`t give a damn about anything, for they have no god. How does one damn then? There`s no damn way one can damn a damn thing, unless one truly can hold authority to give a damn thing about a damn thing.)

    I never lost. I though, will simply decline. This is a waste of my time. At least I enjoyed taking others down with me.

    ..|.. (^_^) ..|..

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 10, 2007 at 1:10 am
    Yeah, prowler, come back when you can accept that just because you have an opinion, it doesn`t make you automatically right. Like you just tried to state in your comment there. >.<
    I don`t give a flying f**k if you`re a christain, it doesn`t mean you`re right and you win.
    BTW, I`m not an athiest. And even then, they give a damn. They just don`t NEED some random magical guy in the sky to give them morals because they can`t develop them on their own.
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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 10, 2007 at 1:12 am
    "just to show you an error you made in speaking."

    I made no error in speaking. A blob is a blob to me. It might be transforming into a baby, but I don`t think it IS one when it it`s so underdeveloped that it can`t even survive outside of a human host.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 10, 2007 at 1:40 am
    One las thing to put in before I completely leave (just checking any last thoughts on me first).

    "I made no error in speaking. A blob is a blob to me. It might be transforming into a baby, but I don`t think it IS one when it it`s so underdeveloped that it can`t even survive outside of a human host."

    Um... Isn`t that why the woman is the host? To nurture and protect the blobbie child until it develops it`s skin, immunities, and whatnot, so it can become a standalone being?

    Study viruses; that`s how you`re describing a mere child. To me, thanks to yours, and many like yours beliefs; the human race, as a whole, are nothing but a pestilence; like a bunch of locusts on this planet. I can care less if I curse my own death with that. Hell`s prettier than this hell-hole of a planet anyday.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 10, 2007 at 1:54 am
    Oh, and as for opinions; I state them. You don`t consider the opinion (and fight w/o evidence (Please, prove with scientific and religious proof that a child is just a ball of flesh, and only a ball of flesh, without a soul; then I`ll be convinced))... So I then increase it`s statement by backing it up in many ways I can with certain forms of evidence (which is a by the book example of how a debate is settled. I need not mention my evidence, for I have already cited during this pathetic excuse of a debate).

    Your fight sounds like a way of backing up slutty behavior much like an adlolescant. Your husbands must be proud. Adios.

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    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 10, 2007 at 8:28 am
    No Prowler, you just think men are all powerful and have the right to beat their children and
    treat women like Birth-machines.

    Atheists do have morals, a different set, But morals are morals, and we can also have fun. It`s better to die fearless than live with
    fear.

    For example, Athiests allow an emryo
    of 40 cells is being used to save the life of
    many cancer.

    And you act like some kind of messiah, giving advice on what women shall do, and advising me
    to read the c r a pas h i tism, but you are nothing more then a monkey like all of us. A monkey who
    THINKS he is better than everyone because he
    THINKS he has the esteem of someone he
    THINKS exists.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 3:52 am
    May God have mercy on your soul.
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    iamrobot13 Male 13-17
    148 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 11:11 am
    Let`s just say, for the sake of argument, That
    when yo die, you would go to heaven, but you would have to b l o wjob both god and jesus,
    would you do it?
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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 5:16 pm
    Seeing as you are asking such a question. You would be willing to.

    I need not answer.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm
    But just for the sake of your ego. I`ll reconsider.

    My answer: I wouldn`t. If Heaven has that as a requirement, then that in turn is not Heaven, but instead Hell. Hell, is a tricky place full of traps and mental tasks that could befuddle even the smartest and wisest of people. Plus, it`s exothermic by thermodynamic law; but that has nothing to do with the subject.

    That, is just a mere-mortal class riddle. C`mon, give me a real challenge. I mean, something that isn`t so blatantly obvious. I mean, the worst demons are those that masquerade as both humans and angels. I may be an idiot, but I`m not stupid. I can easily tell the difference like a 6th sense (or one of my many extra senses).

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 10:05 pm
    Wow, prowler, you just showed me the error of my ways! Oh, wait, no, you didn`t.
    You prove to me that a lump of cells DOES have a soul. How can you tell? Um..... you can`t.
    And yes, the point IS to have women house children in their bellies.
    WHEN THEY WANT THEM.
    btw, this statement-
    "Your fight sounds like a way of backing up slutty behavior much like an adlolescant. Your husbands must be proud. Adios."

    Wow, is that what Jesus would say?
    I`ve only been with one man- my bf, my only love. If we got pregnant before we were ready, I might abort it.
    You need to take that stick out of your christian ass.

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 10:08 pm
    "Please, prove with scientific and religious proof that a child is just a ball of flesh, and only a ball of flesh, without a soul; then I`ll be convinced"

    There IS no proof- you can`t say when a fetus gains a soul... you CLAIM that it`s when the egg and sperm meet- but I don`t think so.
    You have no evidence supporting your opinions, either. And that`s what they are- opinions.
    You just don`t want to accept them.

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    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 10:25 pm
    Okay, you seem to be looking at this completely bss aackward.

    First off, I`m NOT Jesus Christ.
    Second off, Commandment II: "Thou shalt not take thy Lord`s name in vain".
    Third off, I`m Catholic. I have been educated in religion in a different way, and my kind are not projected as a bunch of perverted zealots and fanatics (Though, we`re still pissed off that we`re still targets to the media and those of no faith in what may be poissible, regardless the chances.). Plus, IAB doesn`t have Catholic as an option for religious belief. I guess I`d rather wear a shirt with "kick me" written on the back.

    As for souls; they`re an entity of life. Everything, even synthetic things, have a soul. for existance to happen, a spirit od any sort must possess it, otherwise the cell structure wouldn`t bond. Sounds like anime technobabble, but it`s the most plausible theory I can concieve right now.

  167. Profile photo of Prowler2885
    Prowler2885 Male 18-29
    425 posts
    July 11, 2007 at 10:27 pm
    Speaking of conceiving. Was the idea I came up with just a blob during it`s earliest stages?
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    TrueJSFan Female 13-17
    96 posts
    July 12, 2007 at 2:13 am
    ShakeNBake:wow...............look at the abortions.......i wish their was a way doctors could show the women who got the abortion what their kid could`ve become make them feel like poo


    yah i wish there was a way they could put the names of teh people who considered abortions..hmm...i bet your parents would be on the list...your such an as* hole. what if thsoe peopel ahd abortions cuz they ahd a medical illness in which if they ahd the baby the baby would die. or if the girl was raped? u think she should have to go through 9months of pain and misery u think she should be punished? your such an as* hole. and idiot. typical man comment though, maybe if tehy didnt think with their dick 24/7 there wouldnt eb as many abortions.

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 12, 2007 at 3:21 am
    "First off, I`m NOT Jesus Christ.
    Second off, Commandment II: "Thou shalt not take thy Lord`s name in vain"."

    First off, my whole point was that you`re not acting very christianly for calling me a slut just because I`m pro-choice. I already said that I wish women would use bc in the first place and NOT get pregnant.
    Just because I am pro-choice doesn`t automatically make me a slut as you so joyfully accused me of.
    Aren`t christians supposed to be nice to people?
    Second, wtf does the commandment have to do with anything? I follow ammendments, not commandments.

    "As for souls; they`re an entity of life. Everything, even synthetic things, have a soul."

    You have absolutely no proof for this. I don`t have proof to say otherwise, though.
    This makes our OPINONS on what has a soul different. You can believe what you want, but, and, here is the important part, I BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY.

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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 12, 2007 at 3:25 am
    You, sir, are a crappy christian to go around calling people sluts just because they don`t believe what you do.

    "Speaking of conceiving. Was the idea I came up with just a blob during it`s earliest stages?"

    Your thoughts are not blobs of cells, no. But they DO start off as only a hint of thought which, after pondering the issue, will turn into a fully developed opinion.

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    BrianaGurrl Female 13-17
    2 posts
    July 21, 2007 at 2:50 am
    wtf??? how do they know the info is real???? probly cuz it isnt. and those abortions. why? i dont get why people would do a thing like that.
  172. Profile photo of Putzpie
    Putzpie Male 13-17
    199 posts
    August 23, 2007 at 12:28 am
    holy sh*t look at dem internet access points go up... THAT`S AWESOME!
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    proof1221 Male 18-29
    690 posts
    April 28, 2008 at 5:33 pm
    rofl nice putzpie. anyway this cannot be real. and go abortions!!!!!!!!!!!

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