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  1. Profile photo of buddy
    buddy Male 30-39
    10116 posts
    July 3, 2007 at 1:53 pm
    Link: Big Brother in Your Schools - Security camera catches two girls kissing at school, principal reports it to their parents.
  2. Profile photo of Wondertea
    Wondertea Male 18-29
    108 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:11 am
    Goodbye privacy
  3. Profile photo of 12gaugelove
    12gaugelove Female 13-17
    1025 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:11 am
    whatever. they gotta do what they gotta do.
  4. Profile photo of Wondertea
    Wondertea Male 18-29
    108 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:12 am
    bumblecock, are you gonna hate every entry?
  5. Profile photo of 12gaugelove
    12gaugelove Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 2:13 am
    ^i don`t think he clicks the link, i think he`s just trying to get first post..
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    sulu Male 18-29
    994 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:13 am
    hmmmm..... I say I like the idea of cams but not for the use of abusing it to support your own ways of thought, (Commenting of other people`s moral way of life)
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    ShakeNBake Male 18-29
    265 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:13 am
    ever heard of lesbians dumb principal....probably has a copy of the tape at home for his "alone time"
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    HaruHaru Female 13-17
    1066 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:17 am
    Cameras should be used to keep students safe, not to give parents the daily update on who their child is talking to, eating lunch with, or kissing.. Stupid principal.
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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:19 am
    1984 here we come.
  10. Profile photo of xp
    xp Male 30-39
    523 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:20 am
    Why not just have me follow your kids around all day? I`ll even take showers with them n stuff just to make sure they aren`t kissing anyone in there. I mean if they aren`t doing anything wrong they have nothing to worry about right?
  11. Profile photo of BigWaFuu
    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
    1163 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:20 am
    "The parents dont have a right to know"? Yeah f*ck those guys. Those cameras are there, they are not on private property but public property. Those cameras can be used for anything beyond safety. Just as long as it doesnt violate their personal privacy such as bathrooms and what not.

    I think the parents did have a right to know. It`s the parents decision, not theirs. The principal did the right thing. The principal wasnt selling information or giving information to second or third parties. He was delivering it to the people who have a right to know everything that goes on in their childs life.

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    Mind_Freak Female 13-17
    1 post
    July 4, 2007 at 2:20 am
    That is bull. I would sue his ass or something. I hope his ass is fired.
  13. Profile photo of trebian
    trebian Male 18-29
    315 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:27 am
    BigWaFuu, maybe I`m too tired to pick up on sarcasm or whatever, but are you seriously saying that children have no right to privacy?
  14. Profile photo of iarechigz
    iarechigz Female 18-29
    124 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:30 am
    That pisses me off.

    If I ever have kids, I`m not going freaking hawk-eye every god damn move they make.

    Not only is privacy out the window, but respect is as well. Shame.

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    Lompocus Male 13-17
    296 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:30 am
    It`s been around the public school for years now. Mainly its used to catch vandalizes, but it appears its uses are quite multifaceted.
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    kikikitkat Female 13-17
    152 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:37 am
    The last thing I need at high school is the paranoid thought of people watching me 24/7. I get enough stress as it is! I don`t think our school has cameras... yet. I`m worrying about homework, tests, social stuff, and I don`t think I can handle watching my every move because it`ll be on camera.

    It`s one thing to be safe, but this is going a bit too far.

  17. Profile photo of Aqausixio
    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:40 am
    "Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:20:15 AM"
    RE: BIGWaFUU comment
    Whoa cool it there Shatner. First of all I suggest you start living under a better rock, try the 21st century.
    Secondly everything is quite ALOT of crap to be watching, whoever wants to watch their kids that much is just a smidgen creepy.
    And finally the next time your caught in the act of doing something `wrong` I hope your privacy is invaded too, because thats really what your saying is okay to do, mate.
  18. Profile photo of sarahxoxo
    sarahxoxo Female 18-29
    493 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:41 am
    Dang, I thought there was going to be a video.

    That`s truly ridiculous. Especially that one of the girls got expelled or whatever.

  19. Profile photo of Robbie331
    Robbie331 Male 18-29
    88 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:53 am
    Go ahead and film the schools. But, only review the tapes in case of possible abductions or criminal accusations. Otherwise, Hands Off!
  20. Profile photo of robofish
    robofish Male 13-17
    506 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:03 am
    I want to see the tape :D.
  21. Profile photo of PanicOver
    PanicOver Male 13-17
    50 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:04 am
    Aaaaaaw hell. I guess thats means I`m watched everywhere.

    Anyway, I would sue the school.

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    P-Chanmisao Female 18-29
    228 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:06 am
    I wonder if he feels the need to report all other pda`s.
    "I`m sorry to tell you this, but your son was caught kissing a really cute girl yesterday."
    .....*waves rainbow flag*
  23. Profile photo of FrcknA
    FrcknA Male 18-29
    151 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:14 am
    Hey guys, let`s just put a big-ass camera in BigWaFuu`s room and the next time he rubs one off we`ll just show it to his parents and <i>then</i> he can tell us what he thinks about privacy.
  24. Profile photo of rock_jock
    rock_jock Female 30-39
    122 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:44 am
    Kids do worse things than kiss other kids, regardless of gender. How about the underage smokers? Are we calling their parents? That`s actually illegal.

    Of course, it wouldn`t have been a story if the parents` would have said, "Let her live her life without spying on her, jerk." like a decent parent would, regardless of feelings about homosexuality.

  25. Profile photo of sunwavewind
    sunwavewind Female 18-29
    690 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:47 am
    BigWaFuu how is it the parents decision who their child kisses?

    There were cameras in my high school, they didn`t bother me, but what the principal did was ridiculous. I could see a principal doing telling parents about children kissing in they were in say grade three but once you get to high school something like that is an invasion of the students privacy. It`s not like they were breaking the law.

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    Kaizer250 Male 18-29
    777 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:55 am
    That principle`s a discriminating b@stard. I bet he wouldn`t report a guy kissing a girl, and he certainly wouldn`t expel either of them. Kids have a right to choose who they kiss and who they go out with. Parents should only keep them safe from adults, so as to prevent their getting hurt, either emotionally or physically.
  27. Profile photo of zintosion
    zintosion Male 13-17
    401 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:01 am
    Yeah goooood bye privacy.
  28. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:03 am
    Was it even against the school rules? If they were breaking school rules, that`s one thing, but is kissing against the rules?!?
  29. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1265 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:05 am
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    cannibal151 Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:19 am
    Stupid homophobic idiot, let the girls make out!
  31. Profile photo of Bajatar
    Bajatar Female 40-49
    345 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:28 am
    Land of the free my ass )-|

    Hello 24/7 surveillance and vigilante moral and/or religious terror! I wonder what he`s doing with the tape in the evenings when he spends some quality time with his hand. But hey ... we have nothing to hide, so it has to be ok.

    Remember kids: always stay in line, never act different, don`t think for yourself, OBEY! You are permanently under surveillance!

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    fluffor Female 18-29
    72 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:28 am
    drat the US.
  33. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 4:35 am
    1) She did not get expelled. Stop whining about fictional events.

    2) Yes, they probably would use the security cameras if they were caught smoking.

    3) Cameras need to be in place nowadays because teachers otherwise get sued for every mode of discipline imaginable unless they have videotape footage of every indiscretion of the little brat.

    "How dare you expel my perfect child"
    "Here is your child breaking rule 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 19, 27, and laws, x, y, z, p, and m".

    4) The kissing was a bit much, but yes, the parents do have a right to know who their children are dating, kissing is a grey area. Sorry 13-17 year olds.

  34. Profile photo of i-am-emo
    i-am-emo Female 70 & Over
    1265 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:49 am
    me and a few friends got suspended cause we made a band on bebo entitled "we hate mr eggins" (deputy principal). what gives them the right to be spying on our bebo pages and telling us who we can hate. sure we insulted him but who are we affecting if the insults are in our head, are they trying to tell us what to think
  35. Profile photo of lakerzz8
    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
    366 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:51 am
    I wonder if they were hot
  36. Profile photo of Devi3000
    Devi3000 Female 18-29
    1497 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:54 am
    Where is the video? On that same note, do you really think Baa that they tell the parents of every single kid that kisses in school? Hell no, it would take all year. He told on them because he`s a conservitive sh{i}t stirrer that was offended at two girls kissing. American public schools are a joke. You know what they are, free day care nothing more nothing less.
  37. Profile photo of iarechigz
    iarechigz Female 18-29
    124 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 4:56 am
    Baalthazaq - First, I`d like you to know I think you`re probably one of the most intelligent and insightful posters on IAB. But...

    Completely regardless of whether or not the parents "have a right to know who their children are dating", is it the school`s job to report that information to the parents? If that was the case, would it also be alright for the school to report to the parents who their child hangs out with, or what `clique` they are associated, and so on?

    The personal lives of the students is neither the administration`s business, nor their responsibility to keep track of and report. Yes, cameras are necessary, but the line really does have to be drawn somewhere.

  38. Profile photo of Chibi_Ichigo
    Chibi_Ichigo Female 18-29
    986 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:09 am
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    FIRST_poster Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 5:09 am
    this just shows the intolerance to homosexuals,
    gay and lesbian.
    this is really mean from the parents to take the girl from the scholl and from the principal to report it.
    its not the question if the camera should be used to watch the children.
    the question shouldbe:
    "is homosexuality really such a bad thing than needs to be reported to the parents?"
    thats just a sign of intolerance.
    if the girl woud have kissed a guy (on a normal school) nobody would have cared!!!
    both the teacher and the parents are making me angry!!!
  40. Profile photo of AtomicMuffin
    AtomicMuffin Male 13-17
    699 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:13 am
    We have a kind of homophobic principal in my school. He has to have talks with the boys who wear makeup and tight jeans. And if 2 boys hug, ragardless of whether it was intimate or a greeting he has to go and break it up. This doesn`t affect me but I`ve seen it. He`s mildly racist too but I won`t get started on that.
  41. Profile photo of shahryz
    shahryz Male 18-29
    8 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:20 am
    Where`s the video?
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    engruls06 Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 5:31 am
    no affection children...thats what parents say...ummm maybe thats why the world is drated up...because we have stupid ass parents telling their children to not love...drat that...
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    Midnightlake Female 18-29
    449 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:31 am
    There is loads of cameras in my school even in the toilets :-/
  44. Profile photo of engruls06
    engruls06 Female 18-29
    400 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:32 am
    drat i said drat!! take this! F*ck! haha get around that losers!
  45. Profile photo of iarechigz
    iarechigz Female 18-29
    124 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:40 am
    ^ I`ve tried to get around it by saying f v c k (without the spaces), but it replaces it with "I am a pretty pretty little girl". How lame is that... =P
  46. Profile photo of lakerzz8
    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
    366 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:58 am
    I am a pretty pretty little girl!
  47. Profile photo of lakerzz8
    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
    366 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 5:59 am
    LOL! Sorry, had to test it out iarechiqz, drat you!
  48. Profile photo of vintagepizza
    vintagepizza Female 13-17
    447 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:02 am
    There are cameras in my school, so it`s not just an American thing to whoever said that.
  49. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 6:10 am
    No I agree with you on that iarechiqz and Devi, but it depends on the school. I went to a few because I kept changing countries when I was growing up.

    Some I`m fairly sure would have reported any kind of kissing. Some wouldn`t even tell your parents you were smoking or having sex, it would be internal discipline only.

    This case sounds like it`s not the full story for one reason to me: "Shared what he saw with the parents of one of the girls".

    Why only one of the girls? I`m thinking the parents and the principal are friendly, and that`s why he showed them the tape, not school policy. Although I also jumped to that conclusion and bypassed the homosexuality issue completely.

  50. Profile photo of FuzzyPickle
    FuzzyPickle Male 13-17
    54 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:26 am
    I am supprised that more people arent here arent complaining about not getting to see the video
  51. Profile photo of robofish
    robofish Male 13-17
    506 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:36 am
    For the person who said something about wearing tight pants is gay. Kids at my school wear tight jeans, not because their gay, but because its the trend at my school. Just waying how werid it is. That where ever you live wearing something could be totally different in different places.
  52. Profile photo of robofish
    robofish Male 13-17
    506 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:37 am
    saying not waying ><
  53. Profile photo of Shanir
    Shanir Male 30-39
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    July 4, 2007 at 6:41 am
    This is stupid! So what if they kissed is it against the law! Fu(k no it isnt!

    Stupid people this is getting out of control.

    Damn if only they had a camera where i work they would see that i spend all day on the intranet :P

  54. Profile photo of DeadlyLegion
    DeadlyLegion Male 18-29
    452 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:13 am
    Omfg stpid christian extremist dean/school whatever guy, there is nothing wrong with being lesbian! It`s not criminal in the US
  55. Profile photo of SerFox
    SerFox Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 7:49 am

    Piss off.

  56. Profile photo of innergoth
    innergoth Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 8:10 am
    nah i dont buy it.
    kids are allowed to have secrets and im sure those girls didnt want their parents knowing about their affection to each other. if their relationship was going somewhere then it should be their right to tell their parents themselves. forcing them not to see each other never works, it only makes them want each other more... wait... forget what i just said. we need more lesbians!
  57. Profile photo of realblender
    realblender Male 18-29
    536 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 8:20 am
    the dude was right to tell the parents, he probably should have also reported it to the local religious leaders, the police, the government, set up a website petitioning something, protested outside the school and had the girls hung drawn and quatered!

    oh wait, just a kiss? never mind...

  58. Profile photo of nescient1
    nescient1 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 8:23 am
    why can they show there love for one another??
  59. Profile photo of apttodo
    apttodo Female 18-29
    796 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 8:25 am
    I`ll say it! Wheres the damn video????"
  60. Profile photo of Lorah
    Lorah Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 8:59 am
    how many guys will ask about the video? lol lets see..
  61. Profile photo of jojofabba
    jojofabba Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 9:02 am
    I never thought of it being homophobic, and also saw nothing wrong with it. Our school has a no contact rule, so that`d be breakin the rules, and breakin the rules should be known by the parents. Also, if u do it in a public area, where there are cameras, it is pretty silly if u don`t want the video to be seen by anyone...
  62. Profile photo of DrewK
    DrewK Male 30-39
    495 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:34 am
    I see more benefit to having cameras than harm by having them. You don`t like it? Don`t be doing something you wouldn`t want people to see.
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    Bloigen Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 9:36 am
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    instagata0 Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 9:44 am
    It`s wrong to tell the parents, no matter what. It doesnt matter about the relationship the principal had with the parents, or with the girls (be it good and he thought he was doing a favor, or bad and he wanted to have a jab at them), it is not his place. Now, thanks to this one ignorant prick, these girls cannot choose how that want to `come out`, which, as i understand through my experience with gay friends (both girl and boy) is a very difficult time and generally the fear of them not being accepted is much worse than the actual process. WAY TO GO Mr-principal! he gets the parents to throw them out of school - SHE MUST FEEL JUST FINE ABOUT THE SITUATION.

    anyone who thinks that this is alright and `the parents have a right to know` is an ignorant d*ck! these kids are free thinking people, able to make decisions about their life, ESPECIALLY about their sexuality. the fact is that the parents have NO RIGHT to interfere because it is not the parents choice. its the girls choice.

  65. Profile photo of punk7634
    punk7634 Female 18-29
    192 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:46 am
    DeadlyLegion, It`s not illegal.....yet. Think while you can. Soon it might just be illegal.
  66. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 9:58 am
    dude thats bullpoo and anyone who says it isn`t has some serious problems. I`m usually not like this when i post but i`m sorry. I don`t care if those girls were lesbians or bisexual or what they weren`t hurting anybody by kissing eachother.

    If it was a boy and a girl making out it would have been nobig deal but because it was 2 girls the school had to go and make a federal case out of it. And if those two girls were dating which we don`t know i feel terrible because now they probably aren`t even allowed to see eachother anymore. (i`m only assuming this it may not be true but the thought still angers me)

    they weren`t screwing in the middle of the hallway they were kissing holy poo who cares.

    god people make me sick

  67. Profile photo of DrewK
    DrewK Male 30-39
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    July 4, 2007 at 10:01 am
    ^^^^^I would like to know if my daughter was kissing a chick or my son was kissing a dude.
  68. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 10:06 am
    ^ yes well as a bisexual girl (i`m 17 by the way 18 next month go me yay whatever) i personally would not want the school going to my family if i was dating a girl or kissing a girl i would tell my family on my terms on my own time.

    what the principal did was wrong. he may have apologuzed for it but it`s too damned late. Their lives are already screwed

  69. Profile photo of MVH1015
    MVH1015 Male 13-17
    301 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:26 am
    nobody looks at the cameras in my school
  70. Profile photo of Rock_On37
    Rock_On37 Female 13-17
    263 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:28 am
    Same thing happened in our school. The 2 chicks got suspended, but then we had a gun threat about a week later *Myspace was involved obviously* And everyone was freaking out, Yet she didn`t even get detention.
  71. Profile photo of JAXLEY
    JAXLEY Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 10:33 am
    same thing happened at our school, but nothing was done really
  72. Profile photo of absolutmofo
    absolutmofo Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 10:37 am
    What`s wrong with them kissing?
  73. Profile photo of punki3
    punki3 Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 10:39 am
    I`d bet that if it was a guy and a girl kissing they wouldn`t have done anything about it, people are just a bunch of homophobes and thats why they made a big deal outta it...
  74. Profile photo of newbie4sale
    newbie4sale Female 18-29
    102 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:56 am
    Parents have a right to spy on their kids 24/7. In fact, the school should put those surveillance cameras online so parents can check on their kids whenever they want to, just to make sure they aren`t dozing off in class or flirting with people you don`t approve of or doing all the stuff you did when YOU were a teenager.

    But of course it`s impossible to have cameras in every nook and cranny; and kids will always find spots to do their immoral deeds. Therefore, we should contact that cat-cam guy and have him strap a camera around the neck of every kid, so parents can constantly see what their kid is seeing.

    But what if your child skips school altogether? Terrible harm could befall them and you wouldn`t even know about it! That`s why we have those GPS ankle bracelets they use on sex offenders. An alert could be sent out to parents whenever their kids roam off-campus! Isn`t that great?

    Just to be extra sure that they don`t run off, put a ball-and-chain on their OTHER ank

  75. Profile photo of newbie4sale
    newbie4sale Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 11:01 am
    Ahh! I got cut off! Sorry for the rant, I`m in a sarcastic mood today.
  76. Profile photo of Maromi
    Maromi Female 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 11:30 am
    "...just giving folks a sense of security knowing the cameras are always watching."
    That doesn`t put my mind at ease at all. How can people not find it disturbing to be watched everywhere you go.
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    LochNess-Abz Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 11:49 am
    Hmm...Odd. On my way to my science class at some point last year, I walked past two blonde boys kissing against the drama studio wall outside. I WONDERED why I hadn`t seen them since. My school hates emo boys for wearing tight pants and makeup and emo girls for looking like emo boys :] My teachers also hate asians. I`m an emo girl whos seeing an asian boy. This is all against me, isn`t it :[
  78. Profile photo of anime-craze
    anime-craze Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:05 pm
    at my old highschool we had cameras, just at the enterances to the building to monitor people entering and leaving the school grounds. i don`t know if there were more cameras than that.
    on the note of the principle telling the parents, he shouldn`t have done that unless the parents asked him about that situation or if the other girl had some kind of record showing that she has had some trouble with the law.
    other than dating someone that has been in trouble with the law, as long as you are dating someone close to your own age parents shouldn`t need to be informed of who you decide to go out with.
  79. Profile photo of tazarian
    tazarian Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:27 pm
    Someone got pictures of this girls? o_O
  80. Profile photo of StopSmiling
    StopSmiling Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:31 pm
    ....because kissing your own sex is "something you shouldn`t be doing". Stupid.
  81. Profile photo of Bert10099
    Bert10099 Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:37 pm
    Those cameras do a lot of good. They deter crime, and if/when a crime is commited, they catch it on tape (given there is a camera in the area). We should have more cameras.

    Goodbye privacy? How much privacy do you need in school? These cameras aren`t in the bathrooms. Too many cameras in stores, parking lots, anywhere, blah blah. I need my privacy in Walmart while I buy my cherrios. I need my privacy in Hollister when I choose a new overpriced shirt.

    Everybody is being watched, not just by cameras, but by the eyes of other people. But looking at people isn`t an invasion of privacy. A camera is nothing more than another eye, just mounted on a wall.

  82. Profile photo of rattler201
    rattler201 Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:37 pm
    Constitution doesn`t stop at the schoolhouse doors. Take the cameras down.
  83. Profile photo of Bert10099
    Bert10099 Male 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:38 pm
    As for the reporting of the girls kissing, well, that was just unnecessary.
  84. Profile photo of eleutherarch
    eleutherarch Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 12:51 pm
    I bet £10 the principal and parents are homophobics.
  85. Profile photo of tgirl149
    tgirl149 Female 13-17
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    July 4, 2007 at 1:15 pm
    good thing we dont have those here
  86. Profile photo of tourettes
    tourettes Male 18-29
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    July 4, 2007 at 2:02 pm
    wow thats messed up! f u k high school its so lame anyways.
  87. Profile photo of Jujubean3333
    Jujubean3333 Female 13-17
    300 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:08 pm
    lesbians are disguisting... im sorry
  88. Profile photo of Jujubean3333
    Jujubean3333 Female 13-17
    300 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:08 pm
    but its still gay that the principal did that...
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    Skyira Female 18-29
    1134 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:10 pm
    ugh we have thoughs here but thankfuly our school isnt retarded like that. god has anyone ever heard PDA? (for people who dosint know what PDA is it`s public display affection)
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3433 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:30 pm
    See if they`d have kissed on a Web Cam the`d have been rich, instead, they get kicked out of school and end up becoming hookers.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3433 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:33 pm
    How many Godamn STRAIGHT couples kiss on the camera each day and don`t generate any issue at all? Why sensationalize the fact that it was two Girls Kissing. This is rigoddamndiculous.
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    larajunky Female 40-49
    1832 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:44 pm
    What is this world coming to anyway? So they kissed ... its sociably ok to do so now. Why aren`t they using this camera for what it was intended for ----> catching criminal activity.
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    joolia Female 13-17
    272 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:52 pm
    i`m fine with cameras being in schools. i have them in my school (they put them up recently after someone stole a cart of laptops) but i don`t think its right for the principal to report the girls. would he have reported a guy and a girl kissing to their parents?
  94. Profile photo of Icel3lade
    Icel3lade Male 18-29
    89 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 2:59 pm
    "just giving folks a sense of security knowing the cameras are always watching."

    Yes...ALWAYS WATCHING... definitely makes me feel safe. (wait...what if they`re watching now?)

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    demone_paar Male 13-17
    230 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:50 pm
    sarahxoxo: i thought the parents pulled her out of school not that she was expelled
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    MoondustWolf Female 18-29
    338 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:54 pm
    Some parents. I don`t even have space to be pissed at the school. First, the bigot brats who pulled their child from school just for kissing someone of the same gender. And then all those quoted people. Hey, moms and dads, how bout if you get watched all the time and whenever you do something out of line, your boss calls your kids and tell them. After all, they see you at home, they should see you at work. It`s only fair, right?
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    MoondustWolf Female 18-29
    338 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 3:59 pm
    Sorry for the double post. As for cameras, I could give less of a sh*t. It`s not the use, it`s the abuse. But there`s a difference between sneaking drugs or hiding guns and kissing someone. And that`s why this damn system needs to be revaluated. Besides, cameras certainly did nothing to stop V-Tech. How come they were able to "stop" something like this?
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    SporkUser Male 40-49
    32 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:10 pm
    Where`s the video? D:
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    CheryKoolaid Female 18-29
    30 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:35 pm
    Cameras in schools are a good thing. Needed in most cases with the way people are these days.

    One question though: How are those cameras invading privacy if they`re in a public place to begin with?!

    The fact that the principal took the video to the parents is, but not the cameras themselves. People still have bedrooms, cars, lots of other places to do w/e they want free of the cameras.

    This intire thing makes me mad though because it doesn`t even say HOW the girls were kissing. Friends kiss and hug eachother sometimes. They don`t have to be gay. It`s stupid that everyone is assuming so...

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    procker14 Female 18-29
    509 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 6:36 pm
    big brother is watching.

    we have cameras at my school.

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    Dark_Dragon Female 13-17
    117 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:19 pm
    Somehow I doubt it was just one little kiss. I think there`s more to this story then what was reported.

    And also, it`s not like they went through the taped LOOKING for any little thing to report. Someone saw them kissing. =/

    And I know at my school at least, a boy and girl WOULD be reported for kissing. Because, well, it`s against school rules.

    Honestly, I don`t feel too bad for the girls. If you don`t want to be found out do it some where you won`t be seen. By cameras or principals.

  102. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15784 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:35 pm
    I`m glad no one in the article thought that the cameras themselves should be banned. I`m also glad that the principle recognized that this specific use of the cameras was a mistake, and not what they were intended for.
    I think it`s good that they have a safety system in their school, but it seem unnecessary to report kissing.
  103. Profile photo of Wierdo484
    Wierdo484 Female 13-17
    98 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:37 pm
    That`s stupid. The sad thing is, if it was a girl and a guy kissing, people would think its cute. But oh no!! Two people of the same sex!! *sarcasm* That`s horrible!!


    Well, there`s cameras in my school. *sweatdrop* I`ll be sure not to kiss anyone then. o.o;;

  104. Profile photo of PhoenixPhata
    PhoenixPhata Male 13-17
    280 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 7:45 pm
    I know this is buried pretty far back where few people if any will see it but.. Why the drat do we never get news articles from reputable news sites? Nothing against TruthEra it`s just, until five minutes ago I`ve never heard of them and that means their credibility is extremely questionable in my mind.
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    0verclock3d Male 13-17
    230 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 8:27 pm
    I am a pretty pretty little girl
  106. Profile photo of Verin
    Verin Female 13-17
    9 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:10 pm
    Yes you are.
    We have cameras at our school, everytime I walk down the hallway,I usually flip them off. I don`t personally care that there are cameras, but if there is one thing I can rant about,it`s the abuse of power. In some cases in some schools, some people are right. It`s called favoritism I think. My friend and I run an editorial at school,and we wrote about favortism type things in an article. We talked about how some students could LITERALLY make out a few feet away from the principal, but one girl almost got suspended from school because she held her boyfriend`s hand walking down the hallway. Our principal gave us a lecture, something about how all teachers had their favorites, and he wouldn`t let us run the paper that week. I think principals abuse their power way too much, and we can`t do anything about it. I also believe the same thing about parents,they think,I had this kid,I can do whatever I want, treat them however I want and make them do whatever I want.srry 2 long:
  107. Profile photo of Verin
    Verin Female 13-17
    9 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:15 pm
    Sorry for double post, but I don`t want people to think I think that parents should have no say in their kids life, I just think they shouldn`s rule over them like a dictator. They are people too! Believe it or not, we`re not absolute idiots who can`t make a single decision because we are young and naive, we have minds, even though we aren`t 18 yet. Just sayin`. And I think if the girls were doing something like having sex, parents should be told. But kids need their privacy. Seriously.
  108. Profile photo of Disco_Stu
    Disco_Stu Male 18-29
    594 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:18 pm
    Aww why didn`t they put up at least a screenshot :P
  109. Profile photo of T3h-Wraith
    T3h-Wraith Male 13-17
    645 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:20 pm
    Z0omfg two females are kissing and it`s not in my pr0n vids and they`re not teh hawt!!! i better tell t3h momz0rz!

    This is redundant.

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    Disco_Stu Male 18-29
    594 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:21 pm
    Oh and I agree with the one above me ^^
  111. Profile photo of Disco_Stu
    Disco_Stu Male 18-29
    594 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 9:22 pm
    No, the other one :P
  112. Profile photo of Legion5
    Legion5 Male 18-29
    439 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:00 pm
    They can`t post the video if they are underaged. Anyway teenagers believe it or not have a right to sexual privacy. People do not have a right to go around and judge who they like, whether that be boy girl, cute person fun person etc.

    It`s clear that both the parents and the principal not only violated the above reasonable principle, and had no problem with this, but also both the parents and the official had no problem being prejudice either.

    I would highly recommend that one of the girls get a lawyer and sue both the official and her parents for the commission of hate crimes, motivated against sexual orientation.

    Furthermore I would recommend offering some sort of out of court settlement, or stipulating it as part of the suit that the principal get followed around on a daily basis by some sort of agency that would constantly monitor his sexual activity and report it to some sort of small audience. No doubt this girl`s school career has been ruined, and it is only fair that

  113. Profile photo of Legion5
    Legion5 Male 18-29
    439 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:01 pm
    the person responsible realize what it`s like to go around sharing that sort of information.

    Finally I would also stipulate that those cameras need to be removed because it`s beyond obvious that their users are not mature enough to be able to handle such a thing. If anything security cameras need to be monitored by security personnel, not a bunch of crack pots who weren`t good enough to get university jobs.

    These individuals have NO training in monitoring security systems, ADT Brinks etc, most likely monitors their theft, break in, etc alarms, so why do THEY suddenly need to monitor THIS method of crime detection?

    To be more manipulative in that bad way. Hmmm I think that`s it.

  114. Profile photo of Verin
    Verin Female 13-17
    9 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:04 pm
    That was an awesome post, and I agree with absolutely everything you said.
  115. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
    4376 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 10:52 pm
    jujubean3333 you just an ignorant homophobic child and you disgust me
  116. Profile photo of prongs43
    prongs43 Male 13-17
    11 posts
    July 4, 2007 at 11:19 pm
    Luckily this would never happen in my school. A lot of the girls are lesbians/bi, and display it widely. The only time they get yelled at is for being late to class or holding up the halls.
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    basketkase Male 18-29
    1182 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 12:47 am
    i wanted a video ]:
  118. Profile photo of jebler
    jebler Male 18-29
    1142 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 2:15 am
    i dont know know how many were real lesbians and how many did it for attention and what not but ther was a group of about 15 girls who were openly lesbians in my high school. i know that 3 of them defiantly were because i had classes with them from 6th to 12th grade. no one cared. about 4 gay guys to. never once did anyone give any of them a hard time.

    i just noticed something funny. my school was about 50% white 50% mexican. all the homosexual people were white.

    the cameras should stay. im guess guessing here but the probably racist bastard who showed parents security camera tape that wasnt related to any security or safety matter should be fired.

  119. Profile photo of diemorondie
    diemorondie Female 18-29
    648 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 2:53 am
    This is horrible.
    What if that kid was still in the closet, and didn`t want her parents to know she was gay/bi?
    Poor thing must have been devastated and humiliated.
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    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 3:18 am
    I actually grew up in Port Orchard Washington which is the next door neighbor of Gig Harbor, and this honestly doesn`t surprise me. It`s a very wealthy town, If you don`t drive a lexus or an equally nice car your car will stick out like a sore thumb there.

    "Oh dear Lord, my daughter is a Homer-sexual whatever am I going to do?"

  121. Profile photo of LovexChelsey
    LovexChelsey Female 13-17
    193 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:27 am
    I`m going to organize a lesbian orgy out of pure spite,and it`ll give me something better to do than sit here and read dim witted comments all day.
  122. Profile photo of Shanir
    Shanir Male 30-39
    1074 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 9:20 am
    School which i work in 2 guys were together (15yrold maybe) and no one butted a eyelid people are such dumbasses these days
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    AFTERSHOCK Male 18-29
    2784 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 3:46 pm
  124. Profile photo of NoGoodIdeas
    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
    125 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 4:36 pm
    Oh boy. Put on your reading glasses. This`ll be a long one.

    Personally, I have no problems with the cameras. I have a problem with the man behind them. At my school, someone got stabbed with a pocketknife. He was expelled. In this school, two girls kissed. They were also taken out. My biggest problem with this is that the countless other things (Pushing people into lockers, flipping off, brawling) that have no doubt happened previously got nowhere near the attention this did. This should have never happened. The principal, instead of singling out this instance, moved on to the next tape, and find something where harm was done to someone. Cameras are fine, so long as they are used right: To punish people who harm a person or property.

    Ah fck. This isn`t coming out right.

    Doubtless other people were caught kissing, but equally doubtlessly, they were straight couples. A bible-bashing, intolerant bastage is the last person I`d want as a principal.

  125. Profile photo of NoGoodIdeas
    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
    125 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 4:52 pm
    As for the parents, whether they pulled the child out or not, blame lies with them for (a) Not suing for wasting tax dollars, scarring their daughter, discriminating, breaking the separation between church and state, violating their daughter`s right to privacy, and numerous other constitutional violations; or (b) reacting this way, forgoing "unconditional love" in favor of a medieval, traumatizing, reaction.
    Just because we`re smaller doesn`t mean we aren`t humans. We have a right to free speech, privacy, assembly, religion, protest, DPOL, HC, property, jury, PfC&UP, and rights. Personally, I think they should let 5-year olds vote. Five year olds don`t see race, sex, sexuality, ethnicity, home country, or anything else that people shouldn`t. While thei parents claim to, but really don`t, children believe in fairness. If they are taught the golden rule, and then their parents violate it, the child will ask why, and not accept an "It`s different for them".
  126. Profile photo of friskeh
    friskeh Female 18-29
    60 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 4:58 pm
    yeah, this happened to my cuz too, on many occasions he and his bf got detentions/phonecalls home/ suspensions ect. just for kissing at school. What scares me is the fact that there is also cameras in my old school, in the TOILETS! Its just sick, perverted teachers who need a life and have ``problems`` with that kindof of public affection.
  127. Profile photo of NoGoodIdeas
    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
    125 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:00 pm
    To children, rules are universal. If someone can do something, so can someone else. They would elect the person who would do the right thing, and object when they don`t. In that sense, young children are more human than adults. As for the story:

    The dean saw the two kissing, and was jarred enough to alert the parents that their daughter might be a lesbian. That is homophobic in the utmost. It would be different if he had left out the detail concerning gender and sexuality, but since he left it in, it, not the kiss, was the first thing on his mind. Had he been a fair judge, he would have said that "It`s their life, and their choice. I may disagree, but then they could object to me kissing my wife." Maybe made a note and said "Hm...", but left it at that. Instead of respecting their rights and their persons, he alerted parents. This is definitely the worst thing he could have done.

  128. Profile photo of NoGoodIdeas
    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
    125 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:14 pm
    It`s doubtless that the girls would have come out of the closet on their own eventually, but instead of letting them find the right time and give their parents a chance to get used to the idea, he told their parents, brought all this unwanted attention on them, and probably made those involved much lest trusting of their parents. This inescapably leads to mental problems and insecurity. The cameras stay. The principal goes. That`s how it should be. Where all of mankind is treated equally. That`s the promise our forefathers made to us 230 years ago. We`ve come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. Until everyone is equal, but not identical, we will be no more human than Cain. Human in body, inhuman in soul. And so I leave you with this tidbit: My right to swing my fist ends where you begin, and my right to an opinion extends no farther than to the boundary of your right to privacy. We are the same, be we male, female, black, white, latino, asian, old or young. Don`t forget it.
  129. Profile photo of NoGoodIdeas
    NoGoodIdeas Male 13-17
    125 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    And now to ruin the moment: Sorry about the multi-post. My thoughts are too long to confine to 1000 letters. Also:

    O_O Many many cameras...

  130. Profile photo of Razzed
    Razzed Female 18-29
    18 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 5:35 pm
    Since when do teenagers have the same rights as adults? There is no right to privacy for teenagers, especially when you are in school, which by the way, is a PUBLIC building. That negates any right to privacy, even for adults.

    And is anyone aware that the parents specifically asked the principal to report to them about their child? It has nothing to do with homophobia, it has to do with the principal singling out a student because of a personal relationship with the parents.

  131. Profile photo of geckogirl94
    geckogirl94 Female 13-17
    20 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 6:55 pm
    It`s just wrong how parents and teachers alike don`t let their kids/students have their own private lives that they don`t know about. As long as it isn`t actually harming them in any way it`s simply nosy no matter how you`re related to the kid.

    Re: P-Chanmisao

    I hear ya there. I am sure they wouldn`t have done anything about it if it was a boy and a girl. I sense that the school principal is slightly homophobic.

  132. Profile photo of SilentxEm
    SilentxEm Female 60-69
    670 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 6:57 pm
    Jesus f*cking Christ. This is bullsh*t. Who you`re kissing is your own business. That, and the fact that I`m sure he doesn`t report every heterosexual couple he catches kissing. I mean, are you serious? How would you feel if your parents knew everything you did in high school? I know my parents wouldn`t care, but a lot of people`s would, but it`s not their parents` decision who they`re kissing.
    You could seriously cause a lot of trouble doing this. I`m all for reducing violence in schools, and all that sh*t, but this is seriously f*cked up.
  133. Profile photo of shizzamX
    shizzamX Female 18-29
    2697 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 7:01 pm
    urgh. i almost got suspended for hugging my boyfriend this year. we never even got caught kissing or making out. i don`t see what the big deal is. it`s not like we were trying to be seen.
  134. Profile photo of mungiemoo
    mungiemoo Female 18-29
    26 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 8:41 pm
    Wow... what the heck is up with Gig Harbor lately? They`ve been getting quite a bit of press for such a tiny town. Anyway, would they really be all that upset if a boy and girl were caught kissing? I don`t think so. It`s stupid, really.
  135. Profile photo of Igmo
    Igmo Male 18-29
    1263 posts
    July 5, 2007 at 9:08 pm
    Thats F**king stupid. Its not up to the parents, or the teachers, or the government, or the super intendent, or the principal for that matter to decide who their child kisses. Sure they have a right to know WHO, and not a complete stranger, but not whether or not they should kiss them. Its just ridiculous that a small projection of affection (haha rhyme) creates such an arguement. Just plain stupid.
  136. Profile photo of aznsensayshn
    aznsensayshn Male 13-17
    129 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 12:11 pm
    it was just a kiss.
  137. Profile photo of YinYang78
    YinYang78 Male 13-17
    876 posts
    July 6, 2007 at 5:16 pm
    Who cares if their lesbians? They kissed, big deal. God that principal is an ass.
  138. Profile photo of celticzaida
    celticzaida Female 13-17
    205 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 1:29 am
    One of the vice-principles (pretty much just a disciplinarian) gave two girls three days ISS because they had a quick kiss before they went to class.
    It was ridiculous. He usually just tells people to break it up. The sad thing is, no one said anything about it.
  139. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    July 8, 2007 at 2:42 am
    Messed. Up.
    People need to accept that homosexuals do exsist. And will continue to exsist. And if your child is homosexual, get over it. If you`re a good parent you should just want them to be happy.
  140. Profile photo of TrueJSFan
    TrueJSFan Female 13-17
    96 posts
    July 12, 2007 at 2:07 am
    uhm am i missing somethign the girls just kissed? its not like they were f*cking each other at skool...jeeze...hope this "dean" got his ass fired.
  141. Profile photo of piratepigz12
    piratepigz12 Female 13-17
    352 posts
    July 24, 2007 at 4:45 pm
    who the fcuk cares? there were 2 girls at my school that do that with people in the hallway, and no one ever called there parents

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