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  1. Profile photo of buddy
    buddy Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:54 am
    Link: Anti-Gravity Helicopter? - It appears that the blades aren`t moving due to the camera being in sync with the speed of blade rotation.
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    meganopoullu Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:08 am
    nice effect!
  3. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:13 am
    how exactly is it "in sync"
  4. Profile photo of chikoori
    chikoori Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:23 am
    That`s pretty cool.
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    cookie11111 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:25 am
    OK
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    BeanGreen Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:26 am
    Slightly amusing. But I have the same question as Liquidglass.
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    Hungwell Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:52 am
    It is in sync with the top rotor. The tail rotor always has to spin faster in order to keep the helicopter stable.......

    In sync = High speed camera

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    BigBonny Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:00 am
    How bizzare!
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    efst Female 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:00 am
    And?????????
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    JihadAllah Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:08 am
    Every time the camera records a frame, the blades have gone around, or maybe to the next position exactly ONCE. So it looks like they arent even moving.
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    chillywhack Male 40-49
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:14 am
    Now that`s cool
  12. Profile photo of derangedingo
    derangedingo Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:26 am
    very neat.
    almost spiffy.
  13. Profile photo of Gh4z
    Gh4z Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:31 am
    Then I`ll be the first.

    Photoshopped!

  14. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:35 am
    it would be really difficult to sync the fps with the rotation of the blades, and far too much trouble
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    Mossoi Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:44 am
    They don`t have to be exactly in Sync. In fact, there`s quite a number of rotor rpm/camera fps ratios that will cause this effect.

    As long as the rpm of the rotors divided by the camera frame rate results in a number ending in .2 then the effect will occur (.2 as there are 5 blades). I`ll not bother with the rest of the maths as comments on this site are pretty moronic most of the time and there`s not much point.

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    Chibi_Ichigo Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:47 am
    o.o I keep thinking, "ahhhh it is going to falllllll" but it won`t... It just bugs me...
  17. Profile photo of Tinkerbellio
    Tinkerbellio Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:47 am
    I can`t get my head around that...
  18. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:19 am
    too bad you just regurgitated exactly what the original site said there Mossoi, so don`t be too quick to speak on idiocy of other posts.


    The originality in this event however of them being synced well enough to cause the illusion is what causes me to believe it is difficult to achieve and perhaps happened by accident.

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    Vikstar Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:27 am
    Thanks for the explaination, that was really interesting. Nice link.
  20. Profile photo of FoxCore
    FoxCore Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:29 am
    It`s easy. Take a high speed camera and record the helicopter. Then only take these frames where the blades are on the same position. Cut all the others out.
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    speedsta Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:37 am
    umm... no foxcore
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    Tricky01 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:38 am
    ^^ Too much effort. You can do the same with your eyes. Look at a bicycle wheel or car rim - if it`s spinning fast enough, your eyes can only pick up the rim and wheel spokes at certain times during its spinning cycle - so sometimes it may look like the wheels aren`t spinning, or in fact spinning backwards very slowly.

    The camera doesn`t need to be high speed and there`s no video editing. It was just a coincidence that occurs naturally.

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    Fayth Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:46 am
    It`s like how when you`re watching old movies and the wheels will sometimes look like they`re going backwards or not moving at all due the the framerate matching up with the rotation funny.
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    Argh_Beast Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:48 am
    BLA BLA BLA... It`s just stupid!
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:49 am
    Awesome. Pretty funky to find the right frame speed to match the blades. Or yeah, luck might be it too.
  26. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:03 am
    "a coincidence that occurs naturally"

    I believe you just made the most ironic and conflicting statement on this one so far.

  27. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:23 am
    All coincidences are `natural,` you f*cking moron, unless you can prove otherwise. ALL things are coinciding at once; definition of a coincidence? "Event which involved the coinciding of two or more independent elements."
  28. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:30 am
    Frame-rate vs. rotation-speed; perhaps they sync-up, according to the framework which "Mossoi" laid-out; as you were too proud to accept. It makes perfect sense, I don`t understand why you`re having such a problem with this. If you took a picture every 1 second of something that rotated every 1 second, it would appear that the appendages of that rotating object were not moving at all. That`s exactly what`s happening with a camera, as well as our eyes (though the latter rate is obviously more rapid); the camera does not take continuous stimuli and record it as such, it must be broken-up into frames. Similarly, the helicopter-blade does not just rotate at an infinite speed, otherwise it`d be a solid object / physical blur, and has revolutions for this very reason which can be measured; so what`s your problem? They happened to sync-up, just get over it!
  29. Profile photo of Tinkerbellio
    Tinkerbellio Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:36 am
    YaWnZ^^
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    Legion5 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:44 am
    Not nessesarily at the same speed just a multiple of it. Example, the rotor spins at 4000 rotations per minute exactaly, and the camratakes 40 frames per second. The result? Blades on a helicopter that apear motionless.
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:29 am
    True Legion. And suicism is absolutely right, I made a video on this sort of thing once.

    Liquidglass, you are an idiot... A coincidence can indeed be natural. Like a tree falling in front of you a day after someone said a tree would fall in front of you. That`s pretty natural.

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    limptaco Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:45 am
    Hey Gh4z...did you just not take the time to read the explanation? That the fps of the camera is in sync with the rpm of the blades? Or did you just speak ignorantly for hopes of sounding smart. Though I`ll give you one point, because no actual good explanations came after your comment. But still, when an answer is given, it makes you look pretty stupid to say "Photoshopped!"

    Anyways...yea, that`s a nice effect, but the back and forth up and down movements of the copter was a little creepy. I kept thinking it was gonna crash. Man that bugged me.

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    Freelop Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:58 am
    Never managed to get it in sync but all my videos make it look like the rotors go very slow
  34. Profile photo of Djeniek
    Djeniek Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 7:06 am
    you know
    thats the exact same technique when you see a car drive in a movie.

    You see it spinn, then it`s as if it stands still and than IT`S LIKE IT SPINNS BACWARDS!

    that becaus the speed of the car chanches!

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    Djeniek Male 18-29
    210 posts
    May 18, 2007 at 7:08 am
    the weels of a car i mean
  36. Profile photo of Hansbo
    Hansbo Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 9:40 am
    If you could be able to set the frame rate on the carmera, and also know the rpm of the helicopter rotor blades, that is easily archieved.
  37. Profile photo of Aysha13
    Aysha13 Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 10:28 am
    I think it looks cool.
    It`s amazing how easy it can be to trick our brain, sometimes! ^_^
    Allthough I understand completely how that works and could replicate it with the right camera and information, I`m still fasicnated by the video.
    Coincidence or plan: it looks good!
  38. Profile photo of Yoeri
    Yoeri Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 10:41 am
    Mossoi`s explanation makes sense.

    Unlike the one with the "high speed camera" explanation. thats just well....moronic.

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    antdow3 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 11:11 am
    wow thats amazin. gotta be one of the best vids on iab all week
  40. Profile photo of NyQ
    NyQ Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 11:22 am
    ummm, if our eyes had a fps rate to speak of, it is actually slower than video cameras, not faster suicism. if it were faster, then we would not see streaming video, we would see flashing frames...

    so "the latter rate" is not "more rapid" as you seem to think is so "obvious"

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    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 11:41 am
    Quote Mossoi:
    As long as the rpm of the rotors divided by the camera frame rate results in a number ending in .2 then the effect will occur (.2 as there are 5 blades).

    You were right about everything, except it`s not a "number ending in .2" but "any multiple of 0.2", e.g. 0.4 or 3.8.

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    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 11:46 am
    Wierd...
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    memorex1515 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 12:13 pm
    i think this was a delebrate effect with the blades locked at a constant rpm. otherwiese when the helocopter rises it would increase rpm. but in this video the helocopter body spins in order to provied the extra rpm needed to lift
  44. Profile photo of Ruzhyo
    Ruzhyo Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 12:18 pm
    awesome

    the mossoi/legeion/suicism explanation combined sounds right

  45. Profile photo of VONLINE
    VONLINE Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 12:47 pm
    You`re all wrong. It`s magic.
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    TomSFox Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:01 pm
    That`s cool. And if you don`t get how this is in sync, I feel sorry for you.
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    sniugnep Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:15 pm
    That`s actually pretty cool...
  48. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:22 pm
    Suicism:

    1) The definition of coincidence:
    -A coincidence occurs when unexpected parallels can be drawn from two or more events. In the popular sense it is used to describe events (or, more accurately, combinations of two or more events) which are of low probability.
    -an apparently chance or unlikely event which creates an unexpected and significant situation
    -an event that might have been arranged although it was really accidental

    *What you can derive from this is that natural things are expected to occur, so if it`s a coincidence, it`s not expected, it just happens. So keep quiet until you can say something intelligent.

  49. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:27 pm
    Suicism again:

    Yes I realized what the whole "syncing" ordeal was, and I read the original site the video came from so I knew what had occured after my first post. I still found it very uncommon and was commenting on such, because most of the time when you see a helicopter flying what happens? You see the blades spin. That means you would have to do the calculations and adjust accordingly, thus my comments on the difficulty of setting up the shot.

    also, I posted that Mossoi had simply copy and pasted what was from the original video page and then was very condescending saying that he wouldn`t continue the math equations because people here were morons, rather than admitting he didn`t get it or that he was just copy/pasting.

    -"They happened to sync-up, just get over it"
    well if it `naturally` occured then it wouldn`t have "just happened" it would be the norm.

    If you`re going to try to argue with someone at least make it seem sensible, dumb ass.

  50. Profile photo of sprink99
    sprink99 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 1:57 pm
    LIQUIDGLASS, Is it a coincidence that you sound like a complete ar*ehole? Pray tell us o wise one.
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    Cameron5 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:06 pm
    Awesome
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    jdf2k7 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:11 pm
    this is the best iab vid i seen all week

    it would look good is they did it when someones ridin a bike and the wheels artn movin

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    mikeeegeee Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:28 pm
    the camera records at 30 frames per second the blades complete 3 revolutions in 1 second, simple as that. pulled those numbers out my ass but that`s exactly how it works.
  54. Profile photo of crisva
    crisva Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:45 pm
    The blades of the helicopter spin at the same RPM whether it is rising or falling... rate of climb of decent is controlled by the pitch of the rotors, not the RPM they spin at. So it`s easy enough to match the speed of the camera with the speed of the rotors.
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    MetalicDemon Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:45 pm
    coincidence, just a coincidence.............
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    Velraptor Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 2:52 pm
    ha intresting to see how ppl would see this, congratulations to those who understand the concept. and those who dnt go through primary eduaction cuz since the age of 10 i knew this owuld happen. same effects as wen u record a screen, nd u get the flickering, in this case its out of fase. pretty cool i think
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    animefreak88 Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:04 pm
    neat.
  58. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:08 pm
    sprink99

    actually yeah it is a coincidence. Because I was just retorting to a comment directed towards me and then you jump in with your retarded bit to seem like you had something worth while to say.

    It`s also ironic since it looks like you`re the ass hole trying to call someone else out on it.

  59. Profile photo of NyQ
    NyQ Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    hey! iab let`s you type `ass`!!!
  60. Profile photo of NyQ
    NyQ Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    ass ass ass ass ass

    haha...YAY!

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    deaf_woman Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    Thunderbirds are GO!
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    Killing_Time Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:20 pm
    Oh God, liquidglass, please just shut up, we have all seen a hundred unnecessary fight on forums that are fuels by egos inflated due to the fact that you are looking at a screen and not a person and you have time to plan what you say, so these petty arguments are highly boring and annoying and even worse when you drag it out like you have. So please, we get your message.

    P.S. Just my thoughts but would the camera not need a live uplink to the helicopter to consistently match the fps to the rpm (rpm must change for the ups and downs, would change a bit for the turning) Granted it is not always perfectly in sync and the blades move a little, I still think this "uplink" would be necessary. That would be more interesting to me than the concept it`s based on.

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    sprink99 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:39 pm
    LIQUIDGOLD. I really think you are struggling with the concept of irony, (ironic that,.....OR IS IT!). Anyway, you sound like a really boring pratt, so i couldn`t care less what you think. Oh, and i bet it`s no COINCIDENCE that you never get invited to parties. I on the other hand have been to lots of parties, and i can honestly say you sound like the sort of dull f*cker that stands in the kitchen wearing a hideous jumper and telling everybody about the workings of the internal combustion engine or some such tedious b*llocks while everybody else is just having a laugh. I reckon you are the sort of bloke that, given the choice, i would rather sit indoors and chew tin foil all night rather than go for a drink with you. Do you know what a joke is? Look it up in one of your `reference books`, then come back and post some pompous, boring, unoriginal, uncreative, unammusing and dull reply. (always bear in mind though, that i couldn`t give a monkeys b*llocks waht you think. aaaaaaand relax.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:48 pm
    ^^ Wth is all this about?? ^^

    what you say has nothing to do with anything.

    The vid was cool tho, and I dont think its that hard to make it in sync. its as sum1 mentioned, just the right ratio.

  65. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm
    LOL oh sprink, trust me I`m a pretty relaxed guy, and I`m sure you`d be tons of fun to hang out with, but we don`t really need a contest of parties to figure that one out, you`d have to go to some with me to see what I`m all about.

    Mostly like I was telling Killing_time, this is just for entertainment purposes I really don`t take this sh*t personally.


    Most of the time in my other posts people say I sound too much like a dumbass because it`s brash, then when I just make it relaxed and logical people say it`s pompus. Oh well.

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    prebanman Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm
    ATTENTION EVERYONE:

    This is from a video game called Armed Assualt, the HIND is not real, I REPEAT: THE HELOCOPTER IN QUESTION IS NOT REAL STOP ARGUEING ABOUT IT.

  67. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:54 pm
    I pretty much agree with you Killing, but I just do it to waste some time, especially since the semester is over my college has become a ghost town so I check I-am-bored a little more often.

    Can`t say I`ll stop with the sh*t I talk though, just a way to keep things interesting on here, at least for me.

  68. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 3:56 pm
    and for the record, I have no f*cking clue how an internal combustion engine works, but google does...how else do you think I find my info?
  69. Profile photo of tnt1126
    tnt1126 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm
    omg people r confusing me! :-/
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    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:10 pm
    Killing_Time, if you just took the time (hey, there you go) to read the comments and filter out the bollocks ones, you`d see that it has already been explained. For your info: read Mossoi`s comment in the beginning, and my correction on it and hooray you have it. Thus you don`t need explanations like your uplink one, which is, if you think about it really really hard, very very unrealistic.
  71. Profile photo of sprink99
    sprink99 Male 30-39
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm
    Liquidgold, Sounds fair enough to me. I`ve got a lot better things to do with my time, but peeking onto here once in a while does kill a few minutes. Sneaky suspicion we treat this the same. Got to spice it up a bit to prevent these threads becoming deadly dull. Sounds like you take things in the right spirit. (Nice jumper)
  72. Profile photo of DanoElMano
    DanoElMano Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm
    The arguing over something that has been explained is stupid. None of us care about the sizes of your e-penises.
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    bigfatpig Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 4:58 pm
    E penis? You`re making that up you plum.
  74. Profile photo of bigfatpig
    bigfatpig Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:07 pm
    I dont get this, if the blades are not going round, how can it stay in the air? How come no one has mentioned that to fly, the BLADES HAVE TO GO ROUND!. There are some really stupid people on here. Next time you`re at an airport, look at a helicopter, the top bit is always spinning, thats what makes it go up and down. DUHH people.
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    AKappy Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:09 pm
    flippin sweet
  76. Profile photo of Cardinal998
    Cardinal998 Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:33 pm
    that`s pretty cool
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    catbarf Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:35 pm
    Oh my god. Bigfatpig, read the freaking comments. If the rotor moves at the same rate as the camera takes frames, then it appears to stay still. End of story.

    BTW, `solid` glass in windows is actually a liquid. Take a look at buildings from medieval Europe, you can see that the glass is very thick at the bottom and thin at the top.

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    nicole_xo Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:44 pm
    Cool - ish.
  79. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:53 pm
    lol at the jumper comment sprink

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    bigfatpig Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 5:55 pm
    What on earth is all this about cameras and rates and things. If the blades were going round, then they would be FILMED going round. They were clearly not going round. this is so obviously made with a computer or something otherwise it is simply not possible. Why cant people understand this, its very easy.
  81. Profile photo of Jwhall
    Jwhall Male 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:06 pm
    Has anyone noticed that the rotor seems to move clockwise and counterclockwise? If the rotors looked stationary because of frame captures, it wouldn`t look like they were spinning lazily in different directions. It looks to me like theres two rotors pointing downward giving the helicopter vertical thrust. That`s why it`s flying kind of erratically. If you look closely at the wing looking things sticking out of the body, you can tell theres something spinning very fast on them. I`m surpised I`m the first one to notice this.
  82. Profile photo of bigfatpig
    bigfatpig Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:19 pm
    By the way, if it was frame sync, the rotors would not be dead still. As the helicopter ascends and descends the rotor speed changes, therefore it would sometimes be faster and sometimes slower than the cameras frame rate. And who just films a helicopter like this anyway? It`s obviously either faked or some sort of test flight for an alternative means of proplosion.
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    DanoElMano Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:26 pm
    "E penis? You`re making that up you plum."


    No, sorry to say i`m not...here you go guy :)

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...

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    r-chill Female 13-17
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    May 18, 2007 at 7:13 pm
    that pretty damn awesome now i want one
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    Nadroj09 Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 7:38 pm
    pretty sweet

    i love how people can get into arguments in forums about absolutely nothing, though. honestly, nobody really cares

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    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 8:31 pm
    That was sort of trippy.
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    philippic Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 9:45 pm
    u see this same "effect" with the alloys on car wheels, when ur watchin them on tv.
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    shizzamX Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 10:29 pm
    cool.
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    23scadu Male 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 10:30 pm
    trippy
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
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    May 18, 2007 at 10:30 pm
    Large industrial fans sometimes spun so quickly and silently, they appeared to be off. This caused quite a few incidents, so large man-safe grills were placed over them.

    Happens!

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    BIGMoe Female 70 & Over
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    May 18, 2007 at 11:07 pm
    this was crearly a fake... dumbnuts
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    shadow50001 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 12:13 am
    its funny how stupid some people are on this sight. the frame rate thing explains everything perfectly. For the people who think the blades increase or decrease speed as the helicopter ascends or descends YOUR WRONG my uncle flew for the air force and taught me all about the helicopters he flew.
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    maples Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2007 at 12:35 am
    hahaha that would be a pretty good clip the military would slip to make it look like they had some secret project O.o
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    DarkfireX Male 13-17
    70 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 1:55 am
    OMFG!!! HOW RETARDED CAN YOU FU|<ING FAGS GET!?!??!
    The fooking blades make a turn, so the next time the camera captures a frame, the blades appear to be in the same fooking position!!! This video is an accident, it`s not PHOTOSHOPPED, it`s not MADE BY TAKING OUT FRAMES, you are retards! How more retarded can you possibly get??? Bigfatpig- you are probably some actual big fat pig like your pic, and you obviously failed kindergarden because you can`t get far with the knowledge YOU have

    Now- can`t you just enjoy the effect? It totally pwns, just enjoy it- shut the penis up people who think this is fake

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    missAZNx55 Female 18-29
    90 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 2:03 am
    lol damn, whats with the arguing. theres no need for it. watevers. this is fckn nuts lol. and LMFAO @ the e-penises.
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    Himenick Male 13-17
    22 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 2:36 am
    ok, this was prob. a coincidence, but it still looks pretty cool
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    Nadroj09 Male 18-29
    194 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 3:37 am
    wait, did darkfire just say shut the penis up?
    never heard that one before, but nice nonetheless
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    Nadroj09 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 3:41 am
    and by the way, bigfatpig is officially retarded
  99. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 6:23 am
    bigfatpig - I hereby co-proclaim you a retarded blob of pus. Read the comments and be enlightened.

    catbarf- glass is what is called an amorphous solid. The thickening at the bottom is caused by creep: very slow plastic deformation under low stresses for a large period of time

    http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C01/C01Li...

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    bigfatpig Male 18-29
    352 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 7:20 am
    Retarded? You lot are the retarded ones. You cant recognise a fake clip when you see one. NADROJ09- You are an idiot. Shut up and grow up. DARKFIREX- Listen little boy, shut the f*ck up about things you know nothing about. Get back on your skateboard and go and eat somecandy or whatever the hell stupid american children do. ZOKTORZ.- The only one that needs enlightening is you, you numbskull retard. Get back under your dull rock you spaz. NOW ALL F*CK OFF.
  101. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 7:32 am
    bigfatpig - Which part of the explanation don`t you understand, really? And why be so frustrated about it? Everyone has a bit of trouble with difficult matter once in a while. If there`s a problem, you can always talk about it. And cry on someone`s lap. You ignorant, weak-hearted web troll.

    P.S.: What does "proplosion" mean?

  102. Profile photo of bigfatpig
    bigfatpig Male 18-29
    352 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 7:43 am
    ZOKTORZ- I`m sensing some frustration from you. I know you are having difficulty trying to grasp this whole concept but please try. It really is not difficult at all. Education is a wonderful thing, it`s a pity you didn`t get any, but then again, i suppose there must be a balance. For everyone as clever as me, there must alas, be someone as stupid as you. Oh and proplosion, "1, a force that moves(something) forward. 2, the act of proplleling or the state of being proplelled proplesive adj. Have you got that now you simpleton.
  103. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 7:54 am
    ^^TARD
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    bigfatpig Male 18-29
    352 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 7:57 am
    ^^spaz
  105. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 8:01 am
    Changes nothing on your end, my retarded friend.
  106. Profile photo of bigfatpig
    bigfatpig Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 8:05 am
    ^^You are not my friend. You are just jealous.
  107. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:09 am
    Of the retardedness you present to the world, or the lack of style with which you do it? Because I have to tell you, I`m not jealous of either. Embarrassed a little for you, but not jealous. You can`t help it, what with the waterhead making your decisions and all. It`s not your fault.
  108. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:11 am
    liquid glass:
    "*What you can derive from this is that natural things are expected to occur ], so if it`s a coincidence, it`s not expected, it just happens. So keep quiet until you can say something intelligent."
    lol

    ZoKtorR
    "Quote Mossoi:
    As long as the rpm of the rotors divided by the camera frame rate results in a number ending in .2 then the effect will occur (.2 as there are 5 blades).

    You were right about everything, except it`s not a "number ending in .2" but "any multiple of 0.2", e.g. 0.4 or 3.8."

    nope, wrong, fail

  109. Profile photo of bigfatpig
    bigfatpig Male 18-29
    352 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:20 am
    Its not your fault that you are jealous . You wish you were like me but you cannot. get over it.
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    Killing_Time Male 18-29
    144 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:23 am
    I hate that I`m getting dragged into this but I will allow myself one chance to defend myself.

    ZoKtorR - Sorry if you misunderstood my comment but I never tried to explain anything that had already been said, I merely wanted to point out that I think, as you said "if you think about its really really hard, very very unrealistic." to achieve this. I find it hard to believe that the relationship between the rotors and the fps would just happen to be right for that length of time, so I tried to explain how I thought it would work. Notice I said "just my thoughts" and "I think" I wasn`t trying to tell you how it`s done, I was merely stating what I thought, preferably so I could get some feedback as I`m no expert in helicopters or cameras, and I will admit that.

    So other that ZoKtorR, anyone else think my idea is boll*x???

  111. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:42 am
    bomoman - correct me then, if I`m wrong, instead of just bashing the theory without giving ANY argument and/or alternative. Now it`s just you being a wise-ass. And there are indeed 2 r`s in my name, why question the obvious?
  112. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2007 at 8:43 am
    also, as an add-on to my previous reply,i could rig this up in flash if you don`t believe me
  113. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 8:55 am
    "bomoman - correct me then, if I`m wrong, instead of just bashing the theory without giving ANY argument and/or alternative. Now it`s just you being a wise-ass. And there are indeed 2 r`s in my name, why question the obvious?"

    fine just let me install flash first

  114. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:00 am
    ZoKtorR:
    "ZOKTORZ- I`m sensing some frustration from you. I know you are having difficulty trying to grasp this whole concept but please try. It really is not difficult at all. Education is a wonderful thing, it`s a pity you didn`t get any, but then again, i suppose there must be a balance."
    EDUMACATTION= bing abel to reacognize a splleng mestaike
  115. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:04 am
    bomoman - can`t you just tell me what you think is the answer? Like, just give me the ratio (rotor speed in rotations per second)/(camera framerate in frames per second) you need in order to get a perfectly still image. This assuming that there are 5 blades.

    My answer: ratio = 0.2*n, with n= any number between 1 and infinity

    Open for comments.

  116. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:09 am
    bomoman - You do realize that you have just been quoting bigfatpig, not me, right? Alrighty then.
  117. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:10 am
    "bomoman - can`t you just tell me what you think is the answer? Like, just give me the ratio (rotor speed in rotations per second)/(camera framerate in frames per second) you need in order to get a perfectly still image. This assuming that there are 5 blades.

    My answer: ratio = 0.2*n, with n= any number between 1 and infinity

    Open for comments."
    oh yiff, me forgot to read again, disregard that, i suck fur

  118. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:11 am
    bigfatpig - FYI, I am a 4th year student in civil materials engineering in Leuven, Belgium and I find it rather puzzling that you simply assume that I`m not getting any education. You, on the other hand, give me no reason to believe that you have even finished high school, but since I do not know about that, I don`t make statements about what I don`t know anything about, unlike some people (you).
    And I can`t BELIEVE that you still think "proplosion" is an existing word. Really, look it up and you won`t find it! What you probably mean is
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/p...

    And you also made the remarkable amount of 5 spelling errors in your "explanation":
    proplleling
    proplelled
    propllere
    proplel
    proplesive
    Being, ofcourse, "propelling, propelled, propellere, propel, propel, propulsive"

    Needless to say, you failed to make a good argument.

  119. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2007 at 9:11 am
    "bomoman - You do realize that you have just been quoting bigfatpig, not me, right? Alrighty then." yep
  120. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:15 am
    "...Being, ofcourse..."
    OMFG `OFCOURSE` is not a word
  121. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:18 am
    ^^ That I admit. :p
    Not that it`s an excuse, but English isn`t my native language, I just learned some at school.
  122. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2007 at 9:18 am
    ^^well, you`re a hyppocritter, are you not?
  123. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:22 am
    ^^ You mean hypocrite?
    I wouldn`t say so, I made an error and admitted it.
  124. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:27 am
    ^^
    "a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings"
    yo is all up, insulting his spellings, then , BAM, you do the exact same thing, a spelling mistake
  125. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:42 am
    bomoman - I don`t act in contradiction to my stated beliefs or feelings. My beliefs are this: everyone has the right to make spelling errors, and everyone else has the right to point them out. Just like you did with me. In bigfatpig`s case, I think I had the right to go a little further and give her( yes, it`s a girl!) some verbal diarrhea on top of it, just cause she made so many errors in once sentence and she was being such an ass.
    Btw, I made 2 mistakes: i said one "propel" too many.
  126. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:50 am
    fine, they are your beliefs
    but what are your feelings?
    ZoKtorR on spelling:
    "You, on the other hand, give me no reason to BELIEVE that you have even finished high school, but since I do not know about that, I don`t make statements about what I don`t know anything about, unlike some people (you)."

    you are basically saying that you `feel` that they are unedumacated because of the said spelling mistakes.
    yet, BAM, a big yiffing spelling mistake.

  127. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:55 am
    He forgot one space, as far as I can tell. That`s not even a spelling error. Where is that flash, sucka? Money---->mouth.
  128. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:57 am
    the flash is about a now resolved issue
  129. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 9:58 am
    Resolved my ass, I don`t believe you and on your own terms that means you have to do it. Get busy.
  130. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:01 am
    "Resolved my ass, I don`t believe you and on your own terms that means you have to do it. Get busy."
    fine, but it will be full of CP
  131. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:08 am
    Don`t forget the sh*tting d*ck nipples.
  132. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:09 am
    "Don`t forget the sh*tting d*ck nipples."
    and the furryness as well??
  133. Profile photo of HylianNinja
    HylianNinja Male 18-29
    902 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:11 am
    No, yiff in hell.
  134. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:12 am
    "No, yiff in hell."
    lol
  135. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:18 am
    bomoman- you`re not making a point here. Spelling errors weren`t my only arguments against bigfatblob there, as you should know if you had read and understood everything I said to her.

    And if you want to know my feelings, feel free to join me at #emo-chat later tonight ;)

  136. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:21 am
    but spelling was the main arguement:
    "And you also made the remarkable amount of 5 spelling errors in your "explanation":
    proplleling
    proplelled
    propllere
    proplel
    proplesive
    Being, ofcourse, "propelling, propelled, propellere, propel, propel, propulsive""
  137. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:23 am
    addon"Hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person, where the stated basis for the criticism is the breach of a rule which also applies to the critic. A person engaged in hypocrisy is called a hypocrite."
    k?
  138. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 10:45 am
    ^^nice wiki`ing.
    According to this definition, yes, I must be a hypocrite. I`d rather stick with the first definition though.

    2 remarks however:
    - In my beliefs (hehe), not all cases of hypocrisy should be condemned. If you kill a thousand flies and I kill one, I should be allowed to point out the fact that you`re killing a lot of flies there. Same thing here: bigfatturd made 6 spelling errors WHILE COPYING FROM A DICTIONARY, and I made a small common error.

    - YOU are also a hypocrite, because YOU are pointing out MY spelling errors, while, for instance, you don`t manage to spell the word "argument" out right. This is even worse considering the fact that English is your main language.

    Moreover, YOU calling ME a hypocrite when you`re one yourself, makes you a DOUBLE hypocrite.
    *points and laughs* :p

  139. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 10:55 am
    For those who have just tuned in, this sort of started with bigfatpig`s comment at the bottom of page 3. ;-)
  140. Profile photo of bomoman
    bomoman Male 13-17
    216 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 11:01 am
    so, I`m proud to be a hypocrite
    you=1
    draws=1
    me=0
  141. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 11:08 am
    Me too, it`s rather fun, isn`t it?
  142. Profile photo of jhonmayer1
    jhonmayer1 Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 11:56 am
    whadafx HAX
  143. Profile photo of MyBordem
    MyBordem Male 13-17
    141 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 1:05 pm
    That is quite awesome for the amount of time that it went for.
  144. Profile photo of DarkfireX
    DarkfireX Male 13-17
    70 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 1:44 pm
    BigFatPenis- I think you need to go back to kindergarten. If you ever learn to read again, you may wish to look at my and HylianNinja`s comments and realize that noone is jealous of your extreme state of mental retardation. IAB is a place where people enjoy the links due to their boredom. Don`t come here and annoy the penis out of everyone with your ignorance, just because you were raped by your two fathers
  145. Profile photo of prebanman
    prebanman Male 18-29
    3 posts
    May 19, 2007 at 6:32 pm
    So, to restate what I said earlier:

    this video isnt of a real helocopter, its from a video game called Armed Assualt. maybe some of your explinations could work, but in this case, its just a video game so the rotors dont actually have to be turning for the thing to move, cuase its a video game.
    -patry

  146. Profile photo of mattew
    mattew Male 13-17
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    May 19, 2007 at 7:04 pm
    Cool!
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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
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    May 19, 2007 at 8:40 pm
    Bomoman


    "liquid glass:
    "*What you can derive from this is that natural things are expected to occur ], so if it`s a coincidence, it`s not expected, it just happens. So keep quiet until you can say something intelligent."
    lol"


    -You need to take the comment in the context of the post I was referencing to and correcting. Because someone said something to the effect of "coincidences occur naturally." So if you`re going to correct someone, read in context instead of being a dumb ass.

    Also apparently you can`t read since you spelled my name "liquid glass" rather than "liquidglass" as is the standard spelling I use for my screen name.
    Since you like to correct everyone else on their grammatical mistakes to detract from your lack of an intelligent comment I figured I would point that out.

  148. Profile photo of Disco_Stu
    Disco_Stu Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2007 at 2:59 am
    Interesting effect
  149. Profile photo of xViTAMiN22
    xViTAMiN22 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2007 at 4:21 am
    I thought it was cool.
  150. Profile photo of MGUESTY
    MGUESTY Male 30-39
    75 posts
    May 20, 2007 at 4:42 am
    I like this vid. Pity about all the useless discussion over whether it`s real or fake. It`s REAL!
  151. Profile photo of Viruzzzps
    Viruzzzps Male 18-29
    45 posts
    May 20, 2007 at 9:14 am
    pretty easy to explain, nothing magic happening. nothing photoshopped (besides. who would go edit every single frame in the entire videoclip?)
    the rotors spin at a constant speed, and the camera`s framerate is synced so that each time it takes a picture the blades will be in the same position. and as far as flying up/down its just the pitch of the blades being changed, the rpm remains the same, for turning too, its just the tail rotor that changes speed, faster to turn one way slower to turn the other way
  152. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
    177 posts
    May 20, 2007 at 11:13 am
    prebanman - No one believes that this is from a video game. It would be a pretty lame vid to put in there, since there`s no action (shooting, bombing etc.) and a pretty "unrealistic" view.
  153. Profile photo of burjo7
    burjo7 Male 18-29
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    May 20, 2007 at 12:29 pm
    spot on Viruzzzps, just what I was going to say
  154. Profile photo of chaosgirl
    chaosgirl Female 13-17
    169 posts
    May 20, 2007 at 9:22 pm
    That`s a really fast camera...
  155. Profile photo of DragonCake
    DragonCake Female 13-17
    403 posts
    May 20, 2007 at 11:44 pm
    i`m not posting a scientific physics kinda explination other than that looked really neat
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    h0ax_d3m0n Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2007 at 5:57 pm
    i hope you rot in hell, all of you aguing Sh*ts
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    h0ax_d3m0n Male 18-29
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    May 21, 2007 at 5:58 pm
    arguing, you titwanks
  158. Profile photo of ZoKtorR
    ZoKtorR Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2007 at 4:38 am
    You stop arguing.
  159. Profile photo of robock
    robock Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2007 at 2:09 pm
    In reply to ZoKtorR, your ratio looked logic, but bomoman is right. here is why:
    the blade must do 0.2n rotation per frame (for n=1,2,3,...). At 30 frame per second, that means 6n rotation per second, so 360n rotation per minute. ratio (rpm/fps) = 360n/30 = 12n. Therefore the ratio must be a multiple of 12. For a 24 fps it would be: 4.8n rotation per sec; 288n rotation per minute; 288n/24 = 12n.

    So from that, we see that for `x` blades, the ration RPM/FPS must be a mulitple 60/x and not 1/x. There you go :)

    This is my first visit here, this site is awesome.

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    wooaah Male 13-17
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    July 17, 2007 at 11:12 am
    WiErD

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