Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage

Submitted by: buddy 9 years ago Misc
http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188

Makes you go hmmm.
There are 48 comments:
Male 366
frankly, it doesn`t surprise me that there`s a catch. if a car can realistically get 60mpg with no side effects then it would probably be law by now, not a novelty for retards who want to feel they`re above everyone else.
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Female 920
Eff both cars!!
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Male 42
damn libs and their damn prius`s stuck up sons of b*tches. it also costs a lot to make them anyway

dumb concept

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Male 23
I had to laugh at this article, As you might notice from my username I`m from said Sudbury an it`s anything but dead. Ya they did moon rover testing here.. in the 60`s but alot has changed since then in the 70`s the government cracked down on pollution control and the mining company`s had to clean up thier act and do a bunch of reforesting.. now people come from all over to watch the leaves change. lol this article is a bunch of hooeey.
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Male 3
Interesting view. Not sure it is credible though. I`m sure parts from many cars aren`t all made on site, including Hummers. It would be nearly impossible for every company to create everything on site, speaking economically, hence why we have specialization of labor. Of course energy is used to ship the items, however it`s just more practical.

On another note, anyone who finds this article interesting (and does not know about it) should check out running cars on Biodiesel. Nothing like running a car on used veggie oil and exhaust smelling like Chinese food.:)

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Male 315
And none of you think that the gas saved by driving a Prius MORE than pays for extra building damage?
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Male 72
I don`t believe it for a second. I`d like to know how much GM paid this guy to write that. Even if the Prius does take more energy to produce, there`s no way that it pollutes more than a hummer, when the hummer is getting 10mgp and and the Prius 40. That amounts to thousands of gallons of gasoline over the lifetime of the car. There`s no way that there`s that much of a difference in the energy required to produce the car that it would amount to the equivalent of thousands of gallons of gas.
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Male 1,254
Start producing nuclear electric energy. Predictions are very high that this will cause a great interest in the further creation of hydrogen fuel cells and hydrogen engines. Basically because nuclear is very cheap an completely clean and more powerful than any other fuel source. Right now liberating hydrogen is pretty costly. I imagine we`ll have good hydrogen cars within 20 years regardless.

And you can wait an eternity for Gore`s hard facts Drew. You could wait for the hard facts from every scientist supporting Global Warming. You`ll never see any because they don`t exist.

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Male 306
screw the hybrids, custom build your electric car with lithium ion battery... sorta what Japaneses and some smart futuristic people are doin
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Male 495
"This is total conservative B.S. "$3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles"=$325,000, right? You can easily drive that in 3 years. Do you really think that people would spend over 100,000 dollars a YEAR to own a car like a Prius???!! This is ridiculous. I would like to see some hard data."


Causes of global warming (us) is total liberal BS. I`m still waiting on Gore`s hard facts.

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Female 1,470
Damn cars these days...there killing are earth!
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Male 64
This article makes the same mistake most anti hybrid arguments make. "Mistake" is probably the wrong word, Slight of hand is more accurate.
This article is about energy conservation and economics, not the environmental impact. While the prius uses more energy, it uses renewable energy. Once the energy is a hummer is used, its gone.
Second, the prius saves the environment not but burner less gas, but by producing less emissions. Notice how the word emissions is left out of the entire paper? Yeah, that is not an accident. There is is no need for oil in the earth for the environment. The damage comes from the failed transportation emissions made from the processing a use of oil. So if the prius uses the same amount of gas as a standard car and produces less emissions than a standard car, it is better for the environment. hybrids are about saving the planet, not money. I must conced the point about the battery, but what impact does a regular car battery have? That informa
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Male 102
Guest, yes we can make a difference. Don`t know where you are but in the UK domestic CO2 emissions are roughly equal to that from industry (30% or so each, if I recall correctly). So the choices you make in living everyday life, affect the domestic chunk. Also it is ourselves the consumers who drive the trends in production and industry, so further choices in what products you buy can affect that chunk too. Also how you travel (public transport, air travel(!), biodiesel, the usual issues) is having an increasing influence on total CO2 emissions. You make a huge difference to the environment.
Congratulations on recycling and not driving a car. If only everyone were as environmentally conscious we`d be in a whole lot less trouble.

By the way, for the average car, ignoring other pollutants eg Ni, CO2 emissions produced during the life of the car are far higher than during production. For the Hummer, CO2 for production would be negligible beside the lifetime production.

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Male 80
oh i believe that the Hummer will last 300,000 miles. i know a guy who has over 300,000 on his GM engine. those hummer engines are built really tough.
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Male 70
If this is satire it is the worst satire I have ever seen
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Male 250
[quote]On 3/23/2007 2:30:24 AM rcos wrote: This is a college paper, and is bad quality writing. It turned me off of the whole article. If the facts are correct, and I would like to see sources, it sucks. I would like to know where they got their facts about lifespan time though. Hummers are relatively new and Prius are very new. Take this article with a grain of salt.[/quote]

College paper? It`s an editorial.

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Female 302
I readed that on slashdot (i said 2-3 comments before i will want to leave my geek husband but look where i go read geek stuff -_-) anyway, i have see this on Slashdot and the first thing i have think was "who write that article" its obviously a lobby for some petrol/gaz compagny.

Its sure, its show a side i didnt have think of, but still... I dont think its accurate at all...

where are the sources of it? I bet after 5 minutes of research we can all prouve this wrong. If not, environement people will be already screaming.

And... the question is not so much car and recycling, yes its the way we can make a tiny little difference, but the real bads guys in pollution are compagny ... not individual.

I`m still recyclying, dont have a car and eating bio and organic. But still, we cannot make a big difference anyway...

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Female 604
Wow, I would have never thought about the damage that`s caused during the manufacturing of the cars. Very interesting.
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Male 223
Its somewhat true about the nickel mine, although nickel would be mined there even w/out the prius, and the fact that disposing of all of those batteries may be an eco-hazard, and the fact that a turbo diesel running on biodiesel, is much more efficient, cheaper, and possibly cleaner, people who drive prius` are as big of a jerk off as the hummer drivers, convertable drivers, and BMW drivers. It screams "look at me" and "My pecker is small, but i am important"
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Male 1
Actually, some of this is truth, despite being horribly misrepresented. The part about the new government ratings for example: yes, this is true, but this is applied to ALL old ratings, i.e. the Hummer actually has a worse mpg than listed. But there are plenty of totally idiotic statements. Someone PLEASE show me a hummer that has made it to 300,000 miles without having to replace practically the whole vehicle. Seriously, while everyone can admit that hybrids arent perfect, and do cause evironmental damage, they are a step in the right direction, and theyre trying to do something, as opposed to the Hummer, which is probably one of the most materialistic, assanine vehicles ever to be produced.
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Male 144
and indeed it is in the editorial section, more than likely it is meant to be satirical. like other people said, they have no real sources in the article
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Male 144
just to let you guys know, this "Recorder" out of CCSU is not far from where i live. They got in huget trouble not long ago for SATIRICAL piece that was in bad taste. more than likely this is another one of those
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Male 1,406
I don`t believe anything anymore. This article, probably fake, the prius being environmental, probably fake, global warming, probably fake, life, probably fake.
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Female 455
Most `enviromental cars` cause more damage than most cars because of what it takes to produce them.
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Male 7
good point about the article really referring to the hummer h1. Theres no way the h2 has a life expectancy of 300k miles. The h1 on the other hand, since its diesel, i can believe that. Even if all of the other crap about the prius is true, i bet its still better then a p.o.s. h2
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Male 632
Care about the environment, yeah ok sure. How much this thing cost 20grand? If they really cared about the environment they should spend that 20 grand on bikes and give them to countries like cuba.
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Male 756
I don`t care how good it is for the environment, the Prius is an ugly ass car, and I would never buy one. Plus, driving a Prius makes you look smug.
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Male 1,024
Oh sure. The Hummer is clearly the logical choice here.
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Male 1,003
Take that environmentalists! Hahah Saving the environment huh? Idiots, I hope you all hippies die!!! =)
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Male 30
I HATE WEBSITE THAT THE BACK BUTTON ONLY REFRESHES THE PAGE!!!

when i hit the back button i like to go back not get stuck on the same page again and again, there was a reason i wanted to leave, being stuck won`t make me read you stupid artical again.

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Male 312
"You can see some posts above me for proof. ^"

no poo huh? lol

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Male 946
booooooooooooooooring
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Female 354
Ehn, stastics like this obviously don`t matter. People will believe what they want to believe to make it fit their opinions. You can see some posts above me for proof. ^
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Male 24
This article sucks. I hate when idiots think they can make up unimportant figures to try to prove ridiculous things. And most people obviously buy a Prius to help the environment, not to save a lot of money. Just go work at Google and you get a $5k discount off of a hybrid. :P
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Male 1,354
This is total conservative B.S. "$3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles"=$325,000, right? You can easily drive that in 3 years. Do you really think that people would spend over 100,000 dollars a YEAR to own a car like a Prius???!! This is ridiculous. I would like to see some hard data.
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Male 838
LOL! Does the word "Kyoto" reminds anyone about the USA?
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Male 2,172
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Male 695
remember al gore is a communist. so is david suzuki. and any one else who buys into the global warming is caused by humans crap. pinheads!
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Male 213
[quote]On 3/23/2007 2:48:42 AM Legion5 wrote: Anyway the Hummer was designed by the US government and they are possibly the BEST people on earth when it comes to cost cutting. .[/quote]


Did you really just say that?

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Male 213
that note at the bottom was the exact reason I didnt buy a hybrid.
and I wouldnt have known it if it wasnt for Honda.
I really wanted a Civic Hybrid, and on their website they had a money saved calculator thing.
So I put the numbers in, and in 5 years the savings were like 5K...which would be great, who wouldnt want to save 5 K? But the Civic hybrid costs roughly 5 K more than the regular Civic.

d`oh!

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Male 777
I wouldn`t get either car
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Male 438
Agreed the writing is horrible. "it takes more combined energy per Prius to produce than a Hummer."

per Prius should be after to produce, wtf.

Anyway I would take the facts not the article seriously because the Hummer H1 (which they are probably talking about), was produced by the government and runs on deisel.

Not only is deisel WAY more environmentaly friendly, it`s more efficient than gas, and recently they got rid of the sound and smell issues. It still won`t be a smooth engine but whatever.

Anyway the Hummer was designed by the US government and they are possibly the BEST people on earth when it comes to cost cutting.

Also yes the polution is actualy the worst kind because it contributes to global warming.

Lithium Ion Hybrids (of the future, as you can only buy one model at this time) are much better for the environment. Espetially if all parts are made locally.

As for expense? Eh it`s just money if you want to be REALLY cheep ride a bike, lol.

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Male 699
So I guess South Park was right. Minus the smug part.
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Male 16
This is a college paper, and is bad quality writing. It turned me off of the whole article. If the facts are correct, and I would like to see sources, it sucks. I would like to know where they got their facts about lifespan time though. Hummers are relatively new and Prius are very new. Take this article with a grain of salt.
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Male 1,265
Hey, buddy, why`d you take off your hoodie?

Oh, yeah, this will make the conservatives happy, especially with all this stuff with Al Gore being evil and stuff.

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Female 333
That`s nuts, I never, ever thought I`d see the day when hummers were more environmentally friendly in the the long run than a prius. What is the world coming to!
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Female 430
I also thought just fixing up an old car was helping,, by reusing something and not letting it sit and go to waste. Also the process of bulding cars causes pollution. A geo in good shape can come close to a hybrid,
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Male 10,115
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