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This `liberal` media that only shows that faults of the war is also the same `liberal` media that told us the Iraqis were untamed people prior to the war. They are human beings as well. Why can`t the US just treat them with respect.
"I received information that there were lots of guns in your house and that you were maybe going to use them... I broke into your house to confiscate these weapons yet found none... while I was there I decide that you have been living your life completely wrong so I, take it upon my humble self, to teach you and rebuild you to be a `good` person like me. I`m not going to leave your house untill you are as moral as me."
Wouldn`t you hate me as well?
That said, I say we place the blame for the current world situation where it belongs: on the government, the military-industrial complex, the media, the modern school system, and people who are too stupid to notice they are being brainwashed. Thanks a lot you morons.
The minute you believe something told to you by someone in power is the minute you lose all right to bitch about the state of the world. So shuddup.
Also, the easiest way to not take things personal from anyones post is to not add inflection to what you read. Malestrom, thanks for defending me but I really don`t want people to fight over things that have no solution. We can all debate until we are blue in the face, but why can`t we just debate to learn? Not play king of the hill and try to be on top. We can leave the smearing to the idiots (both Dems and Reps) running for President.
How many times can people make the same joke until it becomes unfunny?
Seriously, Maelstrom, shut up. If you want to give your opinion, give it. But there`s no need to bash anyone. If it gives you some sort of pleasure to put down people that you don`t even know, that`s pretty sad.
You are an idiot. Just because somebody is very critical of the government doesn`t mean they aren`t full of it. Do you by chance wear a tin-foil hat? Don`t worry, the government is looking into things to get past those, you`ll be back under control within the next few months.
"If we can look at our government in the most unfavorable light, then we are more apt to make changes."
Like what? Democrats have control of Congress, why are they letting Bush continue? Non-binding resolutions? Sounds to me like they are giving Bush just enough rope to hang himself. If the war fails, the Dems "told him so". If the war finishes successfully, then the Dems "were the focal turning point". This is a political war. They`ll let the war continue so that hate propaganda will push out more voters.
I hope every last one of you leftist idiots are pleased with yourselves for making such "intelligent" humor out of a serious matter. People are dying over in Iraq to protect the Iraqi people, as well as us in some respects, and for what? So your freedom to make fun of it is protected? Yes, why don`t we all just sit around laughing at "chimp" or "shrub" with our thumbs up our asses and slow bleed the troops. We can sit around and revel in the idea that there are no WMDs instead of actually doing something to win the war and bring the troops home AFTER Iraq is stable.
I also hope you will be pleased when Iran obtains nuclear weapons, despite "peaceful diplomacy" (i.e. limpdick political sanctions that are never even carried out) failing miserably. When major Western cities get nuked, I hope that all this Defeatocrat "humor" will give you a chuckle.
Second, I am not a disciple of the liberal media since the only news related sources I frequent are NPR and the Daily Show. I`m actually confused at how you perceive the media as "liberal". Most of it is very conservative, if it doesn`t just report on the newest celebrity death/scandal.With that aside...
It`s pure fact that we erroneously invaded Iraq, but that doesn`t matter anymore. We can`t change that. What matters is that we`re still in Iraq, years after we announced "Mission Accomplished". I understand completely that simply leaving Iraq would be a bad idea. The problem is that there`s no foreseeable point in the near OR distant future when US troops will ever leave. This leads people to draw connections to Vietnam and hope that the government can learn from the mistakes of the past before 30 years of con
I`m in the middle of reading the Starr Report, but I may look for that book.
Let me clue you in to something, old man: all debates here are useless. Few of us believe otherwise.
However, the overall debate of why we ended up there is absolutely relevant today. The people who authorized the use of military force continue in office. Wouldn`t you like to know what your congressperson knew when they authorized Bush to commit our military? It`s called accountability.
And because someone likes to "hear themselves [talk]" does not render an argument invalid. You`re skills in arguing seem to be lacking.
I agree. Even without an accent, for the joke to work, it needs to be pronounced "I-Rack"
Also, technically, it was an invasion. I`m pleased that you are in such a dangerous proffesion, hopefully there will be less of your type in a short period of time.
And, by the way, the not-so-radical Islamists don`t care for us so much any more either.
Furthermore, one can disagree with the war without proposing a premature withdrawal. What`s egregious here is the pretenses under which we obligated ourselves to this farce. And why don`t you come a little more specific with your accusations than "you people"?
Have a seat and continue to spectate. Your time in creating a profile so you could post was time you could have spent being significantly more productive. Time you could have spent learning how to discern an argument from a passing statement, since you seem to have completely missed the point in these back-and-forth posts.
Don`t you know, you can`t post anything about global warming, the middle east, or...well...just about anything that has conflicting viewpoints.
THIS IS the internet
`Embolden our enemies.` I can`t believe you actually wrote that. If you are going to vomit up old rhetoric, at least disguise it in your own words so it`s not so obvious. You sound like a turntable playing the broken Bush record.
What you seem to be saying is that because I agree with the media, that I am being misled. You assume because I agree with the media that I do not `discover the validity` of the reports. How can you reconcile your "make up your own mind" position with your "the media is wrong" position?
You have made a lot of assumptions that support you. Primarily, that one`s decision to be opposed to this war is spoon fed to them by the media and that they blindly follow. Is it not possible that one`s opinion is both informed AND opposed to the war? Of course it is. How, then, can you generally accuse those opposed of being led in their opinions?
All of this is particularly ironic, Marine, because they are those in the military who are bound and expected to follow orders without question. You, sir, are the epitome of `sheep.`
Sounds like someone is regurgitating information from highly reliable sources.
I`ll stick with the news, thanks.
Again, I don`t know where you are getting all of this information. The way you have spun things, the ONLY way one could make an informed decision is if (s)he were actually present for each event necessary to make such a decision. You got your information somewhere as well. Only you are too proud to admit that your sources have their own agenda as well.
Furthermore, I am very trusting in a media that looks at the government in the most critical light. Nothing a government does can be scrutinized too much. If we can look at our government in the most unfavorable light, then we are more apt to make changes. If everything is going `okay` then there is little room for improvement.
Go chant your `liberal media=devil` bs elsewhere. Take it up with the media and make a change if you`re so concerned about it.
Two: DURRRRRRRRR. What a great contribution to the debate, kylethehappy.
The US did not invade Iraq to liberate it. (If human rights were the issue, why are they now eyeing up Iran, rather than DR Congo, Sierra Leone, the Sudan, North Korea, Cambodia...) The original excuse was WMDs, and talk of liberation came next when that didn`t wash. The liberal media aren`t the o
and they do a HORRIBLE job at political comedy too.
To answer your question: First, we did not INVADE anyone. We went into Iraq to oust a lunatic ruler who would rather kill his own people than cooperate with the free world. Intelligence at the time said they had WMD`s... We never found any. That would not be the first time intelligence was wrong. However, WMD`s aside, Sadam`s sadistic dictatorship would be enough reason to go in. Also, military leaders ALWAYS new that it would be this difficult. The ignorant American masses demanded a time limit be put on the war. What people apparently do not understand is that you can never put a time limit on anything so massive. War is not surgical... nothing is gaurunteed. It takes quite an effort to rebuild a destabalized country. The factt hat our own nation is not behind the war effort means we will not succeed. More to follow...
<33333 You Micheal!
Things are so messed up over there though, and over here too...
I hear that, danmerqury. MadTV sometimes has some really good ideas but than they just go completely nuts and ruin the joke by being too obvious and overdoing it.
im not listining (covers ears)LALALALALALALALALAlALALALALALALALALALALALALLALAlAL
Though the reality of the situation isn`t. :-(
I found it funny. a bit exaggerated, but funny none-the-less
And just because you have some facts doesn`t mean you have the truth. That`s what happens when they focus on the bad, you don`t get the whole story.
So why, in your opinion, did the US invade Iraq?
thats not am american thing ive only ever herd about 4 people ever say it that way and i corrected them.
Again this is a great example of taking from everything said and oversimplifying a problem to try to validate an argument. Agreeing with the media is not necessarily "not thinking for oneself". It is perfectly OK to agree with anything you want to hear, but it does not necessarily mean it is true. The point is that people should not just blindly follow what they are told. If you were investing in a home you wouldn`t just take the sellers` word for it that there are no termites... you would investigate it in order to make an informed decision. Well, as an American Citizen we have an investment in our lives... that is our Government. We, as voters, have a right and an obligation to make informed decisions, not just blindly follow along with what we are told. So, your argument is moot and just plain argumentative... not logical. Don`t change your mind, change your thinking process. The term for it is Neuroplasticity.
I don`t support the war, but to me, there is no doubt in my mind that we are only presented with the bad side of the news. As they say: Dog bites man is no news, man bites dog is.
I`ll tell you: to blame the media is a convenient excuse for condemning people for being against something that you happen to believe is okay. It`s a cop-out and an invalid argument. One that is not very original either, so why don`t you all think for yourselves and create valid arguments instead of blindly following the `don`t believe the media` sheep?
It is just like my view on piece it will never happen so stop trying to get it to.
Splurbyburbl is the person that knows what he is talking about. Almost all of the horrible things you hear about the war someone just said that was the way it was. They probably had no stats or proof. Thus is the way of liberals` lives - promote their blatant lies to those who are not smart enough to think for themselves.
Organize an exit stratagy for this message board. The fighting and bombing will get intense soon.
I must help the innocent and on-topic civilians that are midori 05 and kribbe, the only two people in 20 comments that watched the video!
Also, I actually watched the video! :P
This is not propaganda people, I was actually a part of some of these things that have been happening since the begining.
The bombings are localized and a large problem. That is not in dispute. Running away is not going to make the killing stop. There are parts of Africa right now that the entire world ignore that are going through genocide. There are more deaths per 200,000 people in Washington D.C. than in Iraq right now. Get a grip my friends.
Wrong. The liberal media is very good about telling you what to think about the war. And dumb people just take their word for it. I have been over there a number of times and it is not nearly as bad as they would have you believe. Plus, there are many, many wonderful things we are showing the people of Iraq that the Liberal media will never cover because it hurts their agenda. It may SEEM that most of the world is against the War, but that is simply not true. However, those that are against the war are much more outspoken, therefor it would seem that they are in the majority. Those that do not have a problem with the War are content and much less outspoken. Why would I protest? Bottom line is, if we pull out then we embolden our enemies and kill more troops. It will forever discredit America even furthe
Funny video btw, even if it got a bit repetitive.
`There is no exit strategy!`
Is it really "liberal" to be against the war in iraq?
Anyways, I wonder when they will make the iRobot?You see what I did here? Sometimes I tickle myself!
I hate political comedy thats done so poorly.