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rephrased, yes, stolen, noThat`s a lawyer`s arguement, so say what you want f*ck heads not stolen
but honestly when he retold the joke i laughed, when bill told it first i didn`t find it that funny... ;-/
But seriously, wtf does that have to do with anything, Mech? You`re not even in the f*cking country, so how in the hell do you turn something about a thieving comedian against the president of a place that you have no involvement in? Canadians live vicariously through americans because they only have ice? Oh, makes sense now, thanks for clearing that up.
this is all mute since his peers have calle dhim ou tnumerous times after rogan finally had the guts to do it. if his comedy peers know he is a thief thats all that matters.
carlos mencia is violating those laws by taking other peoples work and putting his name on it without asking permision. this is illigle. he has been called out by more comedians then joe rogan as well, george lopez who actually is of mexican decent has filed a lawsuit against mencia (or holness if you will) for stealing over 18 minutes of his material.
but it really comes down to how youd feel if you worked hard on a work of art, you busted your ass off, used the creative genious you were born with to create this wonderful thing and in one swift moment someone else grabs it from you switches a few things around and puts his name on
Well when (IF)you ever get to college , plagiarize a paper, and just change the "where" of it instead of New York it was Chicago, and make it "WAY FUNNIER" and I`m sure your prof. will understand completely.
^^that is all of carlos mencia`s jokes in a nutshell. if you find that funny....then fine. but you have a terrible sense of humor.
CARLOS MADE IT WAY FUNNIERAS IN SAYING"THANX MOM" RATHER THAN JUST "HI MOM"AND IT WAS THE SUPERBOWL RATHER THAN A HIGH SCHOOL GAME
And there is a big difference between remaking a movie or covering a song and stealing a joke. They`re compensated for whatever is taken because their work is copyrighted. It`s not the same for up and comming comics. If someone steals their joke then oh well it`s gone. That`s basically money out of their pocket. Why should they have to come up with new stuff because someone like Carlos Mencia steals their stuff and gets the rewards?
1. thank you IAB community, for recognizing that mencia is a hack
2. cover songs are just that, and everybody knows. what mencia does is misleading.
3. comedy is an art in which inovation is constant
4. mitch hedburg, steven wright, bill cosby, bill hicks, richard pryor, eddie izzard, jerry seinfeld, red fox, chris rock, these are inovators and original minds (and just a few at that)
so some research. defend comedy.
The issue is he used the same base and just changed some words around, still defines it as a plagiarized statement.
The other examples of jokes he stole are more "concrete" check out the youtube link someone left on here somewhere.
yeah, because you cant be proud of your heritage and fall in love with someone of a different background
I see NOTHING in common
Stiletto: Yea you`re right, who has ever thought of stealing before? *shock*horror* Tons of people that`s why they have little things called Laws, look them up, I hear they`re the new `rules` in town.
punk1n: "Have you ever made up your OWN joke? No. You tell your friends jokes that you`ve seen/heard elsewhere"
WTF? Actually yes, people make up jokes all the time, just during conversation, not one with a set up and punchline. but if you do repeat one you say "hey listen to this joke Andrew told me..etc" or "listen to what I heard on Comedy central last night."
So do you make up your own mind punk1n? NO, you regurgitate everything that you`ve heard from one side of the argument and call it your opinion.
And its not about the same PREMISE of the joke, its about thenjoke hasving the EXACT SAME PUNCHLINE... *that* is stealing, its the same as if somebody took the "To be or not to be" monoglogue, moved a few words around, and claimed it as their own, braying meantime that Shakespeare never did it first....
I like how there are 13-17 year olds on here that actually get that ned has no talent, yet you, a 30-39 year old, are too mindless to accept the fact that he is actually a no talent wanna be comedian.
Really, people. It`s turning into a witchhunt. What`s next? Are we going to prosecute every guy who tells a joke about farts killing a romantic mood? Surely SOMEONE noticed that first, but that comedian was probably talking to his buddies about his date with Lucy the Australopithecus the night before.
stealign jokes jokes like carlos mancia is doing, is straighot out stupid and he should not have a career.
and it doesnt have to be word for word, in literature, an idea is copyrighted, you can chnage as many words as you want but if the foudnation of the writing is there, its considered a breach.
therefore mancia shoudl eb shunned by everyone. but im sure mexicans wont, ebcause they coudl care less whats wrogn ro right a slogn as they support their mexican latino brother.
By the way, Bill Cosby "Himself" is CLASSIC! To me, it never gets old! I remember watching it when it was first shown on HBO.
a remake of a movie or song add different inflections to it that make it something new. however, in comedy, it`s the CONCEPT that is funny, so, even by nuancing a joke, if the concept is the same, it`s just a repeat. but, if it`s a new spin on an old concept, then it becomes your own.
so, movies and music, it is HOW the story is told, but jokes, at their base, are the story itself, and how its told (as long as it follows the proper story line) is less important.
IAB, it`s usually evident that IAB didn`t "write" (or draw, video, create...) the material provided.You`d have to be a bit naive to think IAB was claiming true ownership of anything posted.
Carlos Mencia sucks. He`s very rarely original and thinks he`s the only person in the world to think and say what he does. OH MY GOD, DID HE JUST SAY THAT!?! Screw that, he doesn`t say anything that I haven`t/wouldn`t. Big effing deal, get over yourself Mencia. And also, f*cking stop with your annoying phrases that people have caught on to. Saying "dee dee dee" alone is a viable reason for me to kill you.
Cosby ruled that joke. Mencia sucks.
Mitch Hedberg > All.
And everyone who says "So what, he stole jokes the point is to be funny" I agree. If you take a PREMISE, as Dane Cook seems to have done MAYBE twice, and make it your own with different jokes about the same premise... that`s cool. Mencia does NOT do this as he steals entire jokes, some word for word, from greats like Bill Cosby and George Lopez AND he steals from not so famous comedians.
The point is it`s not as bad to use premises but to take entire jokes? Come on.
also, if he`s not stealing a joke he`s pretending to be mexican making racial slurs. He`s just one big walking racist joke, die.
Q: What`s the best way to get them out?A: Nachos
Bill Cosby OWNS!
now, personally, i think mencia is a little too comfortable riding on the coattails of others. from what i can see of his original stuff (besides being repetitive) he can actually be creative and funny all on his own. he doesn`t need to guarantee a laugh by ripping off someone else`s stuff. so why does he? i think he needs to take a break, work on some original material, and then come back into the game at a later time, because he`s just hurting himself this way.
ned sucks big rooster
PSHe is pretty popular among us teens as we haven`t really heard most of the jokes before.
I prefer George Lopez and Kevin Heart (Spelling..?)
That is low man.. really really low.
Tell me, in this situation, are the second man`s actions legal or illegal?
Take a minute to decide...
If you answered illegal, you are correct, and can probably figure out that this is basically what Mencia has done. The first man is every comedian he has ever stolen from. The glitzier advertising is the image of "raw uncensored reality" he and his promoters try to put out there... He is a criminal, and should be brought to jsutice for his actions. The only problem is, nobody has taken him in yet... He must be really slippery.... Probably uses bribes...
A man working at a computer company develops this software that basically can do something never done before (pick something yourself, if you want). He works and SLAVES on this software, knowing he will probably get a promotion for it, and is helping people everywhere understand the world better. This stuff is his pet project, his baby, and finally he gets it just right. His company decides to give it to a few thousand people to test. The testers love it, they rave over it, the man gets promoted up 2-3 executive levels.
Then, there is another man trying to develop software that can do what the first man`s does. He`s not very good at it, and he finds it frustrating that he knows other people are starting to succeed where he has failed. Finally, he manages to get his hands on the first man`s software, and he makes a cheap imitation, one where he can open his own
Well first off, when someone remakes a movie people have a kicking, and screaming, "OH MY GODS NO!!" knee jerk reaction. Second, when someone remakes a movie or song they get permission from the studio and/or the artist who created it, they get credit and everyone knows it`s a remake. What Neddy boy does on the other hand is out right steals the jokes, passes them off as his, and lies about it. The comedian who came up with the joke gets no credit for it. It`s plagiarism.
Before I even knew that CM stole jokes ect off other comedians, I found his shows to be rude, I mean, almost too rude and therefore will not support anything he does.He just trys to get a point over by swearing and blindin`, and I dont find that funny at all.
Carlos Mencia is funny sometimes.
Then on behalf of all true comedy fans eveywhere may I say; Your not welcome here. Go watch a reality show or some drama or somepoo. Your not welcome among the art of comedy.